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Dugout Discussion – Sunderland vs Middlesbrough

21 August 2016 1535 comments
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Gameweek 2 rolls into Sunday with a lunchtime Wear-Tees derby clash.

Sunderland play host to a Middlesbrough side that earned a draw in their opening home encounter with Stoke City on day one. David Moyes’ side also emerged with some credit from their first fixture, losing out to Man City by a narrow 2-1 margin having equalised via a Jermain Defoe goal.

Defoe will once again carry the goal scoring burden for the Black Cats today, who are without Fabio Borini due to a toe injury. Moyes gives home debuts to Donald Love, Paddy McNair and Adnan Januzaj, while Papy Djilobodji earns his full debut at the back.

Aitor Karanka begins to rotate his Boro troops by bringing in Cristhian Stuani for Albert Adomah. Victor Valdes misses out with a training ground knock, opening the way for Brad Guzan to earn his debut in goal.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Bøwstring The Carp
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Those wildcarding after GW3, is 3 games really enough to decide on practically a whole new team?

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    1. Numb
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not really. 2nd inty break is better.

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    2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      yes, i took a punt with no ibra or hazard and it's already costing me.
      Deadwood needs treatment now

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    3. Nabs Kebabs
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yes. You still have transfers at the end of the day.

      Also, replied on last page.

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    4. pokern1nja09
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Probably not, but likely sticking with the plan.

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    5. Chris_H
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not ideal, but if your hand is forced. I saw Andy Goddard wildcarded last week!

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  2. Weeb Kakashi
    10 years, 1 month ago

    This cannot get any better

    Have Payet Valdes
    Jaku Mcauley coming ON

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    1. Shifty
      10 years, 1 month ago

      good for you. importance of a strong squad.

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  3. JogaSemmedo
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Firmino out for

    A) Pogba

    or

    B) Barkley

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    1. Podge
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Barkley for the next few weeks anyway

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    2. MTPockets
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B

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    3. Pub Crawl to the Townsend
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B

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    4. Arn De Gothia
      10 years, 1 month ago

      b

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    5. micsway
      10 years, 1 month ago

      B

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  4. MTPockets
    10 years, 1 month ago

    2FT so may as well use one. Anything better than Deulofeu to Bojan for attacking bias? Can't afford Barkley & don't want eve rotation risk.

    Foster (Jaku)
    Valencia - Williams - Stones (Amat/Friend)
    Hazard - Mahrez - Redmond - Deulofeu (Capoue)
    Aguero - Ibra - Gray

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    1. myboycharlie
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Deualfou to Bolaisse??

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      1. myboycharlie
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Sorry just seen eve rotation risk how about Townsend palace good fixtures

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        1. MTPockets
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Hadn't considered Townsend. Don't think he's been brilliant but will take a look cheers.

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  5. Would an idiot do that?
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Why was the Payet injury kept so quiet? I found out 20 minutes before kick off, unusual for an injury to slip past us

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    1. Paul Psychic Octopus
      10 years, 1 month ago

      It wasn't.

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    2. MTPockets
      10 years, 1 month ago

      There were rumours ealier via a blog.

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    3. Rainer
      10 years, 1 month ago

      News came out on Thursday that he'd be doing well to make today!

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  6. Rolls-Royce
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I've absolutely no fu**king idea what to do with my 2FTs. 😕

    👿

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    1. Eden Azzzar
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Transfer the same player in and out twice

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      1. micsway
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Best comment ever.

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    2. Nabs Kebabs
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I'll try and suggest something. Post team please. I remember you posted in the DZ and I told you not to force getting Barkley

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      1. Rolls-Royce
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks Nabs

        Here's the team:

        Foster (Pickford)
        Valencia Stones Friend ( Evans Amat)
        Lamela Mahrez Hazard Ramirez* (Capoue*)
        Kun Zlatan S.Long*

        £ 0.5 inb

        *worried.

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        1. Eden Azzzar
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Long alert. Get rid now

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          1. Nabs Kebabs
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Well it's a tricky one not sure about that. The popular option is Negredo but I think I'd rather have Long home to Sunderland than Neg away at West Brom.

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          2. Rolls-Royce
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Long has Sunderland home next. 😕
            Not the best times to ship out..?

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        2. Nabs Kebabs
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Honestly this is a very tricky one. I think I would actually be tempted to take a punt on Bolasie for Ramirez. I think Deulofeu will get dropped for Bolasie. The ideal option would be Redmond but he is 0.1m away 🙁

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          1. Rolls-Royce
            10 years, 1 month ago

            How about Stones-> Holding & Ramirez -> Redmond.

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            1. Nabs Kebabs
              10 years, 1 month ago

              Excellent moves imo. Great outside of the box thinking.

              The thing with Stones is that he will rarely score more than 6 points so he can't really hurt you. Redmond playing upfront is a "must have" imo. I'm all for it 🙂

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              1. Rolls-Royce
                10 years, 1 month ago

                Cheers Nabs. 🙂

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        3. Niemi
          10 years, 1 month ago

          Long>Negredo/Gray/Rondon
          Ramirez>Bojan

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    3. Mr. Grv
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Same here 😛

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    4. Shifty
      10 years, 1 month ago

      same. Firmino on the chopping block for sure.

      Then it's whether to get Rid of Stones, Lamela, Morgan or bank the transfer.

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      1. Nabs Kebabs
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I think it's a no brainer to bank the second transfer there. 5.0m defs hardly worth spending a transfer on especially when they're fit and have good fixtures.

        The Lamela knee jerk seems to be getting popular. WTF?
        He scored a goal GW1
        Created 5 chances GW2
        Shaky Livp def GW3

        🙂

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        1. Jazz!
          10 years, 1 month ago

          This. He's been absolutely sublime.

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        2. Shifty
          10 years, 1 month ago

          thanks Nabs.

          Yea the other are luxury transfers to possibly get ahead of the curve. I liked Lamela, just thinking ahead of whether to prep for another premium mid.

          Firmino is definitely gone - looked clueless with Sturridge back and that midfield is a minefield points wise. so much movement in and around the box - good for Pool, bad for FPL.

          Thinking Tadic. Really liked his performance against United.

          Barkley other option but yea bit wary of getting him. been there done that etc.

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          1. Nabs Kebabs
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Lamela is one of the bargains of the season imo.

            I have already moved on Firmino for a week punt on Mirallas before I play my WC. Agree he is a poor option when Sturridge is playing.

            I have never owned Barkley before because he is such a jammy player. But I am liking his stats this season and think this will be the year where he takes a step up. I'd be going him personally. On another note, if you don't have Redmond already, please do yourslelf a big favour and get him ahead of all the other options.

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      2. Rolls-Royce
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Would like to give Lamela two GWs more. Looks decent enough.

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    5. Numb
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Let it burn. Nothing cooler in FPL world.

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  7. SheBangsTheDrums
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Who to bring in for Gaston?

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  8. HVT
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Is Stuani (4.9) nailed?

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    1. ManofKent
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Didn't play last week...

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      1. HVT
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Any idea why?

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        1. ManofKent
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 1 month ago

          No, but he's tempting me - Musa to Stuani allows Oscar to Hazard for only a -4

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    2. Podge
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not nailed but pretty hard to drop after that

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    3. Jazz!
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not even close to.

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    4. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I looked at him preseason. He wasn't last season and didn't score enough goals either for my liking

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    5. Max Gradel to the grave
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not nailed, and plays deep.

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  9. Oooof
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone budget players worth looking out for in WHU vs BOU?

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    1. Oooof
      10 years, 1 month ago

      *Any

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    2. Paul Psychic Octopus
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Impossible to judge with so many Hammers out injured. But I have high hopes for Byram.

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      1. Oooof
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers.

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    3. Worsle90
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Looking forward to seeing how Tore (£5.5m) gets on for WHU. Kouyate same price and nailed on.

      Also like Callum Wilson (£6.5m) for BOU.

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      1. Oooof
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers, I'll keep an eye on them, Wilson was great last year up until his injury.

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    4. Bleach †
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Valencia? 😀

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  10. Rolls-Royce
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone keeping Ramírez?

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    1. Podge
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Sold about 10 minutes ago, for Cazorla, hoping for a peno binge 🙂

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    2. Sponge-worthy
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Probably

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    3. SheBangsTheDrums
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Nope! Playing as my 4th mid so needs to be nailed with Leko as 5th mid!

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    4. pokern1nja09
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Yea keeping for one more week. Townsend seems a bigger priority to shift, palace look dreadful

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    5. Jazz!
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Out for Tadic.

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      1. Rolls-Royce
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I want Tad too. Shame can't afford.

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    6. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Me 🙂

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  11. Rex Lapis
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Which one?
    A. Barkley + Lamela
    B. Pogba/Nolito + Mirallas

    *you can replace Mirallas with other mid under 6.5m

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  12. GoonerByron
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Decent green arrow with no Ibrahimovic.. Very surprised 🙂

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    1. Podge
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I had a huge red with Ibra (c)

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  13. Venom Snake
    10 years, 1 month ago

    10 mins before kick off -

    2 FTs available and don't want to waste, who should make way?

    Foster - Jaku
    Shaw - Stones - Friend - Pieters - Amat
    Hazard - Mahrez - Lamela - Redmond - Capoue
    Kun - Ibra - Gray

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    1. Numb
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Pieters maybe? But your team is fine.

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      1. Venom Snake
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Double up on WBA, McAuley?

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  14. Worsle90
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Is Ashley Williams in for a start for Everton next week, do we think?

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    1. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Guess so

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  15. devils advocate
    10 years, 1 month ago

    All these players now getting Capoue, Jaku and Heaton auto subbed is unfair!!!!!

    It makes my genius move to start them irrelevant now, lol.

    Carroll still trolling me and he's not even in my team! I tried warning you all him and his stupid ponytail weren't worth it. 😉

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  16. LAMB TEA
    10 years, 1 month ago

    best 5.5 mid for now?

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    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      capoue

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    2. pokern1nja09
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Probably snodgrass, but see how Ibe does now

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  17. Lord Flashheart
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Please help me choose a transfer for this week: (thanks Cheesus and HVT who answered - would appreciate more opinions)

    1 - Firmino to Barkley
    2 - Ramirez to bolasie
    3 - Kone to williams

    thanks!

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    1. Arn De Gothia
      10 years, 1 month ago

      1 - i did it

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      1. Lord Flashheart
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 1 month ago

        cheers

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    2. Worsle90
      10 years, 1 month ago

      3. Kone wants out so won't start. Firm and Ramirez both nailed on for respective clubs.

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  18. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
    10 years, 1 month ago

    i am really starting to despise negredo.

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    1. Max Gradel to the grave
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Needs to work more if he's up on his own.

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  19. Sadio
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 1 month ago

    My wildcard is active and I feel like I have a major leg up.

    Most will disagree but I've seen enough.

    Double on City attack, 2 or 3 Everton players, Rob Holding looks secure for the foreseeable future.

    Think I'll be in for some major points and price rises. I always think a GW3 wildcard is the play.

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    1. Jazz!
      10 years, 1 month ago

      GW4 for me 🙂

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    2. BERGKOP
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Personally think it's premature, but good luck!

      GW4 for me too.

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  20. Gonna mesut up
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Two weeks in a row I have managed to avoid last minute transfers (First gw the site was down and the second gw life got in the way) and I am 34 points the better for it. I am going to stay the hell away from fpl site for 24 hours before every gw from now on!!

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  21. merin
    10 years, 1 month ago

    What issues do you see in this team?

    Foster Jakupovic
    Valencia Fuchs Friend Pieters McAuley
    Hazard Alli Redmond Ramirez Capoue
    Aguero Ibrahimovic Negredo

    FT: 0, ITB: 1.5

    Alli and Pieters got to go?

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    1. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
      10 years, 1 month ago

      alli has to go. pieters has to stay.. just bench him until his games improve. you've got the defense to do it.

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    2. Gonna mesut up
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Not sure it is worth a hit really. See if Alli will be back next weekend and then make a decision from there. Barkley the obvious choice.

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      1. RamaJama
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 1 month ago

        This. Alli has Pool next week...

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      2. merin
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Barkley? What about Lamela, Cout or Mahrez?

        Cout, and LIV, is too inconsistent.?
        Mahrez, and LEI, got a bit to go in terms of form?
        Lamela too incosistent?

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        1. Gonna mesut up
          10 years, 1 month ago

          There are many options for sure. Coutinho is very inconsistent but can be explosive. Mahrez is solid but looking a little expensive for what he is offering so far. Lamela is doing pretty well for sure so worth a look (I have him). I just like going on fixtures as well as form and over the next 6 gws Barkley looks really solid and is part of an everton team that i think looks pretty dangerous so far. All personal opinions though.

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          1. merin
            10 years, 1 month ago

            Good thoughts there mate! Thanks! 🙂

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    3. Arn De Gothia
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I´d ditch Alli, Pieters, Fuchs

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      1. merin
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks!
        Who would you get instead?

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        1. Arn De Gothia
          10 years, 1 month ago

          i did fuchs->walker
          pieters to anyone
          alli->barkley

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    4. RamaJama
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Alli won't be rotated next week and plays Liveroool, keep

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      1. merin
        10 years, 1 month ago

        How do you know?

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    5. KUNingas
      10 years, 1 month ago

      If your not Wildcarding keep before GW5, keep Pieters.

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      1. merin
        10 years, 1 month ago

        I'm not. Got a really good start with my team, and dont need much changes so far.

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  22. Zoostation
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Firmino & Kone to Barkley and Williams for -4?

    Or hold Kone and hope he doesn't drop?

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  23. Cantona90
    10 years, 1 month ago

    I really don't want to take Firmino or Deulofeu out yet with them both playing OOP.

    I know we look at playing up front as a positive, but when it's not a player's natural position it may contribute to a poor game.

    I know I'm not a professional player but the few times I've played up front has been really difficult. Prefer to play in the hole and run at defenders.

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    1. MTPockets
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Don't have Firminho but I want to take Deulofeu out if he's not going to score/assist there. Plus question over future lineups.

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    2. myboycharlie
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Lose deulafou he gets subbed after the hour mark and will b rotation risk wit Bolaisse and mirallis

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  24. Sillet Bang
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Heaton
    Shaw Azpi Valencia
    Hazard Cout Capoue Ramirez
    Aguero Zlatan Luka

    Jak Fer Love Amat

    anything pressing? still no Payet!

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    1. micsway
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Front looks heavy with lukaku. Consider a downgrade for cash.

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  25. Bøwstring The Carp
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Basically the only way I can get Ibra in is by taking out Costa and one of Firmino/ Mahrez

    Costa (BUR), Firmino (tot)/ Mahrez (SWA)

    Obviously Firmino down to a 6.5 would be the obvious move, but I just can't justify taking out Costa when he plays Burnley at home. Just seems very sideways and stinks of chasing last week's points, when GW3 could produce a bigger haul for Costa. Hull seem to be defying the odds and might not be as leaky as everyone hoped.

    😕

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    1. Jazz!
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Which is exactly why I'm not getting Ibra yet. Costa could easily do very well v Burnley, and Mahrez the same v Swansea.

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    2. Swanremainsthesame
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Or Costa could finally meet a ref with the balls to send him off when he has already deserved it thoroughly twice over, yet remained on the pitch.against all logic &c refusing to learn

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  26. Podge
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Get yer money on Bournemouth

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  27. Would an idiot do that?
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Need Francis to get some points. My sanity depends on it

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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      10 years, 1 month ago

      I own Wilson . Arkham Assylum 😉

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      1. Would an idiot do that?
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Id be confident if i was you

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  28. Francescoli
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Williams and Stones or Walker and Holding?

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  29. micsway
    10 years, 1 month ago

    Drop firmno or tadic for Barkley?

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    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 1 month ago

      not tadic - 2 of his next three are very good fixtures

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      1. micsway
        10 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed!

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    2. Arn De Gothia
      10 years, 1 month ago

      firm

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    3. myboycharlie
      10 years, 1 month ago

      Easy firm

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  30. SheBangsTheDrums
    10 years, 1 month ago

    What are Kome owners doing?

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