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Dugout Discussion – Sunderland vs Middlesbrough

21 August 2016 1535 comments
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Gameweek 2 rolls into Sunday with a lunchtime Wear-Tees derby clash.

Sunderland play host to a Middlesbrough side that earned a draw in their opening home encounter with Stoke City on day one. David Moyes’ side also emerged with some credit from their first fixture, losing out to Man City by a narrow 2-1 margin having equalised via a Jermain Defoe goal.

Defoe will once again carry the goal scoring burden for the Black Cats today, who are without Fabio Borini due to a toe injury. Moyes gives home debuts to Donald Love, Paddy McNair and Adnan Januzaj, while Papy Djilobodji earns his full debut at the back.

Aitor Karanka begins to rotate his Boro troops by bringing in Cristhian Stuani for Albert Adomah. Victor Valdes misses out with a training ground knock, opening the way for Brad Guzan to earn his debut in goal.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Nomar
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Sunderland are the new Wigan.

    So, so bad but will find a way to survive every season.

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    1. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Except they have dominated boro so far?

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      1. Nomar
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Generally speaking, Lateriser, and they haven't looked like scoring despite their possession.Boro more likely to nab a second.

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        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          What game are you watching...

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          1. Worzel Gummidge
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Different one to me thats for sure. Sunderland are all over them.

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            • Nomar
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Sunderland v Boro.

              Lots of possession doesn't mean jack if you can't do anything with it.

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              1. Give The Todd Some Love
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 3 months ago

                Absolutely ludicrous to say they look more likely to get a second.

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                1. Trigg ⭐️
                  • 13 Years
                  9 years, 3 months ago

                  😆 What have Boro done to make you hate them?

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                  1. Give The Todd Some Love
                    • 14 Years
                    9 years, 3 months ago

                    Honestly nothing, I really enjoyed watching them last year and was glad they got promoted. Just not sure paying Negredo six figures and buying Marten de Roon for £12 million is the best way to stay up.

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                2. Nomar
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  9 years, 3 months ago

                  Really?

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      2. BERGKOP
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I agree.

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    2. C_G
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Selling Kane for Ibra tonight, who else would you sell from this lot to get the extra 0.5:

      Redmond
      Mahrez
      Townsend
      Stones

      Currently thinking of dropping Mahrez

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      1. BERGKOP
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Tough.

        Between Stones and Mahrez.

        Short term, drop Stones. Otherwise Mahrez.

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      2. Scholes Balls
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Townsend!

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    3. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Adnan looks tasty. So tasty. I have always loved him.

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      1. Podge
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        He loves you too

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        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          😀

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          1. Kazza_
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Utd bias maybe

            Flatters to deceive imo

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      2. Blanka
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Not watching the game, better alternative to Gaston?

        I'm not a United fan but always thought he'd have been more established by now. Great talent.

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    4. BERGKOP
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Who scores more this GW?

      A) Vardy & Firmino
      B) Ibra & Lamela

      Cheers in advance

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      1. Pazzify
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        B definitely

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        1. BERGKOP
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Cheers

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      2. walkman666
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        B based on recent past.
        A based on the likelihood that the same guys don't score every week, and Leicester have an easy home game

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        1. BERGKOP
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          My dilemma 🙂

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          1. walkman666
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Go with Ibra. He scores and scores. His price will continue to rise. Join the Ibra train. You can always depart when it stalls.

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            1. BERGKOP
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              True 🙂

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    5. Robert's Son
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Any pl live streaming site guys? My TV operator isnt showing sunderland boro match!

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      1. devils advocate
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Google first row sports

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        1. Robert's Son
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Thanks! Need to see how januzaj is doing, lateriser is pretty exited!

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      2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Get mobdro

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    6. Oooof
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      More impressed by Januzaj than Ramirez so far.

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    7. Woeisme
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Anyone got a working tampermonkey script?

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      1. fusen
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        To do what? On which site? :p

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      2. Every Dog Has Its Day
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Yes

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        1. Every Dog Has Its Day
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Ah it was working yesterday but not today...

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          1. Every Dog Has Its Day
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Working again

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    8. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Good man Negrado! Keep the points coming

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    9. Give The Todd Some Love
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Sunderland look alright

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    10. Bullet Eder
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Every player in my mini leagues has Shaw and I have Valencia.

      Those 5 extra points cost me this week, do you think it's worth using my free transfer to align?

      Or should I stick with Valencia as a differential?

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      1. Trigg ⭐️
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Massive waste of a transfer.

        Shaw just got fouled. Valencia looked better going forward.

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      2. Podge
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Stick now, or maybe get both

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      3. Worzel Gummidge
          9 years, 3 months ago

          In a season Valencia will get more points IMO.

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        • fitzy
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Valencia so much more likely to get points so far. Shaw won't get a penalty assist every week.

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        • walkman666
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Stick. Jayzus.

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        • Bullet Eder
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Thanks all.

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        • Nomar
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          After my experience with Carroll this gw I would avoid injury prone players. It was only a matter of time with Carroll, O'Shea just injured again too. I suspect Shaw won't take long before he's Crocker again.

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          1. devils advocate
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Silly comment mate.

            He isn't injury prone, he got his leg broken in two places in a challenge.

            There's a difference between being injury prone and suffering bad luck.

            Sturridge and Wilshere are examples of being injury prone.

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      4. Cantona90
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Ramirez pushed out wide? Did he play behind the striker last time?

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        1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          He tucks inside often, as the full backs push up. You'll see that more at home tho

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      5. C_G
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Kane & Mahrez ---> Ibra & Manè?

        is Mane back next GW?

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      6. Clump
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Friend looks a bit suspect to me.
        Had a few roastings from Jan already.

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        1. Give The Todd Some Love
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Too slow

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        2. Oooof
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Been thinking that.

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      7. Hybrid.power
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Is anyone else's team being saved by forwards and defenders? My midfield has been doing so bad. Eriksen, Townsend, Tadic and Hazard this week. Hazard was the only one to get attacking points, and that wasn't much! Gotta top benching Capoue 😛

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        1. Clump
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Sounds like my team.

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        2. Shifty
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          have 2 FTs and that's where i;m looking to spend them - lucky to have Ibra/Gray/Aguero so forward line is good for now

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      8. Shifty
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Looking for a Firmino replacement

        A) Barkely with that run of games coming up?
        B) Tadic with those stats and 2 decent home games in the next 3

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        1. walkman666
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          A

          Everton fixtures are better. Soton has scored 1 goal so far despite Tadic good play.

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      9. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Stat

        Sunderland have not won any the 27 games that Rodwell has started!

        Jonah

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        1. Tommytour
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Didn't Bale at Spurs have a similar stat at the start?

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          1. Nabs Kebabs
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Yep i definitely remember that, think it was when he still an LB.

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      10. El Patron
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Ozil looked good in his cameo. Might do Firmino-> Ozil, Vardy->Lukaku.
        No Ibra, I refuse -.-

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        1. El Patron
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Is it overkill to have both Barkley and Lukaku?

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          1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Just don't have Barkley. Jammy footballer

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      11. Podge
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        All the way back 🙁

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      12. Jamie_GAWA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Who's the better option

        Defoe (7m) or Benteke (7.4)

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        1. Mongreloid
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          I'd go with Defoe for now. Proven and Benteke will need a few games to get up to speed

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        2. Swan - Villa Proud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Benteke

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      13. Mongreloid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I fancy making 3 changes to this... I've got 2FT so is it worth -4?

        Foster
        Shaw - Valencia - Stone
        Haz - Alli - Tadic - Phillips
        Gray - Ibra- Kun(c)

        Subs: Jakupovic - Friend - De Roon - Smith

        Thinking Alli>Barkley, Stone>McAuley, De Roon>4.5m

        Anyone got a view on this? Is McAuley justified or shall I go Holgate in the hope he keeps his place? Barkley vs Bolasie?! De Roon change would be purely to avoid the price drop as I don't necessarily mind my 3rd sub being injured and on the bench...

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      14. The Generalator
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Eriksen for
        A sterling
        b Barkley

        ?

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        1. Podge
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          B

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        2. Worzel Gummidge
            9 years, 3 months ago

            A, easily. I am not buying the Barks love

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          • Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Sterling

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        3. Tex
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          So do we think Love and Marc Wilson will be the 4.0 options that get regular games?

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          1. Scholes Balls
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            have them both on my bench, hopefully they will but no overly enthusiastic as both teams likely to have just a few clean sheets. Cant see them earning any points from going forward

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          2. Ryan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Doubt it considering their current display

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        4. Podge
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Good lord Middlesboro are awful

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          1. BERGKOP
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Sunderland are pressing well

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        5. Blanka
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Apologies if already asked.

          Does Donald Love have any place competition? Or is he a guaranteed 4mill defender?

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          1. Sylas
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Billy Jones is potential competition imo.

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          2. Trigg ⭐️
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Sunderland defenders are being sold and getting injured. His place is safe IMO

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          3. Tex
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Billy Jones and Adam Matthews. But seems to be first choice right now.

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        6. RADOAFC
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Foster
          Stones VVD Shaw
          Delofeu Haz Townsend Tadi lamela
          Vardy Aguero

          Jaku/Friend/Amat/Gray

          Thinking Friend,Tadic and Vardy to Love, Redmond and Ibra for -4

          What you guys think, not having Ibra is stressing me out!

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        7. Smurf
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Any thoughts on Mirallas and his game time?

          I really want Barkley but only have 7.5m and his price rise has now put him out of reach.

          Mirallas seems to have started well but with Lukaku and Bolasie I'm unsure of his game time.

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        8. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Defoe now, but Tekkers when fit

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          1. I am 42
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            already on benteke ship

            im surprised a few did too

            look at the transfer in round

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            1. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Need to see his fitness first. Certain possibility after the international break

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          2. Tommy Tynans Left Shin Pad
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            For Jamie above....

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        9. Fumi
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Didn't even know Pienaar was at Sunderland.

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          1. walkman666
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Signed this week, quite recently.

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        10. Oooof
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          This Sunderland defence gets weaker and weaker if Kone and O'Shea are missing.

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        11. Dimen
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Townsend, keep or sell? Any mid priced mids to replace him?

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          1. Tommytour
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Give him next two games

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