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The Dugout Discussion – West Ham United vs Southampton

25 September 2016 3500 comments
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After Saturday treated us to eight matches and 29 goals, we have just a solitary fixture to focus our attentions on today.

West Ham welcome Southampton to the London Stadium as Slaven Bilic attempts to halt a run of three straight Premier League losses.

Both sides chalked up EFL Cup wins in midweek, yet while the Saints saw off Palace to rack up a third successive victory in all competitions, the Hammers had to rely on a last-minute free-kick from Dimitri Payet to see off Accrington Stanley.

With a pair of assists in each of the last two Gameweeks, the Frenchman has been in fine form since returning from injury.

Nonetheless, Payet has remained overlooked by many Fantasy managers due to the form of Michail Antonio, who has netted five times in four since being moved onto the flank.

With his defence in disarray, Bilic will be relying on that duo to get the better of a Saints side that have picked up a single point in their two road trips so far.

For the Saints, Nathan Redmond remains their most popular FPL asset despite a four-match barren streak, though Dusan Tadic is the form player heading into this one, having served up an assist in each of the last two Gameweeks.

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  1. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Last Man Standing Update

    Safety score = 32
    Top score = 84
    LMS average = 50.05

    1 game + lots of autosubs left

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Bye then 🙁

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        10 years, 24 days ago

        Capoue can save you.

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    2. Horlicks esq.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 24 days ago

      63 + Capoue to some how stay in this league for another week.

      Woi oi.

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    3. Back on the horse
      10 years, 24 days ago

      i'm surprised im still in this tbh

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  2. palace ash
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Really feel that I need a Liverpool midfielder in my team, but I'm also in need of a backup for Pickford as Jakupovic seems to be out of favour.

    Pickford, Jakupovic
    Baines, Stones, Lovren, Holebas, Amat
    Sanchez, Sterling, Arnautovic, Antonio, Capoue,
    Aguero, Lukaku, Benteke

    0.5 ITB, 1FT

    A) Jak -> Boruc
    B) Arnautovic -> Lallana
    C) A + B (-4)
    D) Arnautovic + Benteke -> Coutinho + Rondon/Austin/Zaza (-4)
    E) Arnautovic + Benteke -> Lallana + Deeney (-4)
    F) A + D (-8)
    G) A + E (-8)

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    1. HuttonDressedasLahm
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Just don't pick the wrong one....like me

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    2. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
      10 years, 24 days ago

      B

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      1. palace ash
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Thanks.

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  3. ShaunGoater123
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Which of these is the best Sanchez enabler, need to raise 0.2 therefore downgrade needed

    A) firmino to coutinho

    B) capoue to Marley / fletcher

    Cheers

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    1. palace ash
      10 years, 24 days ago

      A

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    2. kalmoffit
      10 years, 24 days ago

      A

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    3. nevins84
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Firmino to Couthino is a waste imo.. they will score similar points over time.. very knee jurky that

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      1. ShaunGoater123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Yep don't want to do that as its so sideways. But as I say need to raise cash for Sanchez which isn't knee jerky.

        That's why the capoue move is tempting...

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        1. nevins84
          10 years, 24 days ago

          Are u playing capoue every week if hes bench then him.. is it an ft

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          1. ShaunGoater123
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            10 years, 24 days ago

            Benching him at the moment.

            Current mid is de bruyne, firmino, Chadli, anodgrass and capoue

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            1. ShaunGoater123
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              10 years, 24 days ago

              Would be a -4 alongside de bruyne > Sanchez

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        2. rashFord Fiesta
          10 years, 24 days ago

          difference between Firm and Cout is small, Capoue vs Marley/Fletcher there's a much wider gap

          A

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  4. PvA
    10 years, 24 days ago

    ALEXIS SANCHEZ FIXTURES AND POSSIBILITY OF REST

    During the international break, Sanchez has 2 games:

    Thu 6th October: Ecuador vs Chile
    Wed 12th October: Chile vs Peru

    When he returns, the next Premier League game is:

    Sat 15th October: Arsenal vs Swansea

    Finally, the mid-week Champions League game:

    Wed 19th Oct - Arsenal vs Ludogorets

    The difference between now and the last international break is that Arsenal had a big opponent in PSG. Now they have Ludogorets which isn't as tough a game. Wenger isn't likely to rest Sanchez for the game against Ludogorets.

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    1. zøphar
      10 years, 24 days ago

      thoughts on haz->sanchez for a hit?

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      1. PvA
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Doing it today before Sanchez' rise myself

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    2. HuttonDressedasLahm
      10 years, 24 days ago

      How did the game go where they rested Sanchez?!

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      1. Karan_G14
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Won 2-1 after 90th min penalty

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    3. Sourabh
      10 years, 24 days ago

      chile vs peru will be lethal

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    4. John t penguin
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Cheers
      So you think Swansea game might be OK to start after 3 days

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      1. PvA
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Yea, that's my guess

        Wouldn't be logical to rest Sanchez for Ludogorets imo

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    5. F4L
      10 years, 24 days ago

      any chance Coutinho gets rested that week?

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      1. TorresMagic™
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        10 years, 24 days ago

        Good chance in GW8.

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    6. nevins84
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Sanchez doesnt do rests.. he'd play every other day if he could

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    7. Worzel Gummidge
      10 years, 24 days ago

      So are you saying he will be rested adjacent Swansea or not? Post is rather confusing.

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      1. Worzel Gummidge
        10 years, 24 days ago

        *Against

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    8. JØ
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Wenger IS likely to rest Sanchez for the game against Ludogorets*

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      1. JØ
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Misunderstood your post. Nevermind.

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  5. lasmons
    10 years, 24 days ago

    So, best 4.5 def for next weeks? Already have Evans.
    Gibson, Holebas, Francis, other?

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  6. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Hello then lads. How was your week?

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    1. Sourabh
      10 years, 24 days ago

      awesome till today ... preparing for a drop tomorrow

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    2. TorresMagic™
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      10 years, 24 days ago

      Not bad thanks, looks like you need a big couch for tomorrow night.

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      1. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Same

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      2. Lateriser 12
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        10 years, 24 days ago

        Not too worried 🙂

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    3. Jazz!
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Great after Capoue's brace tomorrow 😛

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    4. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Sh*te. Absolute sh*te.

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    5. palace ash
      10 years, 24 days ago

      So so.
      Baines and Lovren hurt.
      Capoue could hurt me tomorrow.

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      1. Forjaz
        10 years, 24 days ago

        61 yesterday. Collins and Payet gave me a +1

        Pieters comes in. Unlucky...90m goal from Rondon ...

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    6. JØ
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Hello LR. Rather good, got a 5-5 draw in a 5-a-side match, scored 3. Also, the weather is still beautiful in Eastern Europe.

      FPL-wise, lost my H2H to Berbs... But still looking at OR of 7k and 53pts + Capoue. Could be worse with no Kun and Ibra (C).

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      1. Lateriser 12
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        10 years, 24 days ago

        Massive rank. i did a nice 220k to 100k jump. Hoping for a Capou red tomm.

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    7. JØ
      10 years, 24 days ago

      How was yours?

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      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Damn son. Had a good week. 64(-4) all out yesterday and a nice green.

        Happy with my team. Iwobi Firmino and Ibra played in teams that routed but didn't get me points. Imminent.

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        1. JØ
          10 years, 24 days ago

          You deserve the points from Firmino for keeping faith from the start. Remember your "ditch Firmino or Deulofeu dilemma" back in the third week, glad you made the right choice. 🙂

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    8. BbBb
      10 years, 24 days ago

      65 + Capoue and up to my highest ever OR

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    9. Holding Mee Bong
      10 years, 24 days ago

      73 Heaton and Capoue left!

      Penalty save and a Capoue brace would be ideal

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  7. FPL Maldini
    10 years, 24 days ago

    The million dollar question, which Liverpool mid to get?

    A) Coutinho

    B) Mane

    C) Firminho

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    1. John t penguin
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Lallana

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    2. Black Panther
      10 years, 24 days ago

      D) Lallana

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    3. RWLC
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Toss a coin. Lallana is best value, I think Mane/Firmino will score the most points over the season.

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    4. nevins84
      10 years, 24 days ago

      There's no correct or incorrect answer really.. they will score good pts just not every week.. any of the 3..

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    5. Epic Fail
      10 years, 24 days ago

      C

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    6. n-doggg
      10 years, 24 days ago

      C

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    7. Lecky Legs FC
      10 years, 24 days ago

      I went for B earlier he's key to as a Liverpool fan and FPL owners next GW

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  8. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
    10 years, 24 days ago

    With Sanchez due to rise what to do here fellas?

    A - Mane >> Sanchez FT (Have Firmino)
    B - Antonio >> Walcott
    C - Benteke & Sterling/Firmino >> Rashford & Sanchez -4

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    1. ANON.
      10 years, 24 days ago

      None look great. I would hold and do something like C next week for free

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    2. Energetics
      10 years, 24 days ago

      A

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    3. n-doggg
      10 years, 24 days ago

      A. Easy

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    4. LE GOD(C)-AMERICAN DYCHO-(1…
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Thanks all

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  9. John t penguin
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Now I am considering a stoke defender after next week
    Crazy times

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      10 years, 24 days ago

      bad dog.... 😉

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    2. n-doggg
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Collins to pieters for me

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    3. Rasping Drive
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Have you been eating other dog's faeces?

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  10. Judas
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Will Pickford keep his place after this weeks fiasco from Sunderland?

    Jaku/Pickford combo scaring the hell out of me...although it did give me cash to bring in Kosc

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    1. ANON.
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Should do, wasn't his fault

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  11. HuttonDressedasLahm
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Injury news on Shaw and Baines?

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  12. KJT123
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Best defender under 5m?

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  13. n-doggg
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Bring in a Bournemouth or Watford defender for Collins?

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    1. Sylas
      10 years, 24 days ago

      A Watford defender.

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  14. Colonel Shoe 肝池
    10 years, 24 days ago

    austin looking like a great value pick or will he get rotated soon ??

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    1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
      10 years, 24 days ago

      minutes profile looks awful

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    2. JØ
      10 years, 24 days ago

      No reason to rotate him. It seems that now Long will get Europa League games. Austin is surely more nailed than Rashford, if that's any indicator.

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    3. kalmoffit
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Soton are coming together as a team so expecting goals from him.

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    4. Somalion
      10 years, 24 days ago

      My think has always been that Puel would eventually realise neither Long nor Redmond are going to win them many matches with their goal scoring. Southampton have only one true goal scoring striker and that's Austin. I think management might have finally twigged this.

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      1. A.T
        10 years, 24 days ago

        I'm only suprised it took them so long.

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        1. Somalion
          10 years, 24 days ago

          As am I, but people can be stubborn!

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    5. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Can't believe it took that dumb @ss Puel this long to realise he only had one 'striker'

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      1. JØ
        10 years, 24 days ago

        He is there for just over a month now. Not that long, really.

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        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          10 years, 24 days ago

          looool. I've never been and i could have told him.

          You make it sound like this guy was completely clueless about Southampton and English football before he came over.

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          1. JØ
            10 years, 24 days ago

            Well, Mourinho knows English football well.

            Still took him a month to ditch Rooney.

            And he still plays Pogba at CDM.

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      2. A.T
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Redmond the new Henry my arse 😀

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        1. Colonel Shoe 肝池
          10 years, 24 days ago

          true dat.... grrr

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      3. the axolotl
        10 years, 24 days ago

        koeman didn't seem to notice either tbf, and he bought him!

        must be absolutely rubbish on training ground

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  15. ankj70
    10 years, 24 days ago

    KDB transfer out options

    Have Sanchez and Lallana

    ozil / walcott / sterling / coutinho / mane?

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    1. nevins84
      10 years, 24 days ago

      You should have one of firms/couts/mane but out of that list sterling seems safest

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  16. OnlyCassettes
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Cech - Pickford
    Valencia - Baines - Walker - Amat - Love
    Hazard - Payet - Firmino - Cazorla - Bolasie
    Aguero - Benteke - Campbell

    1 FT available, 0.1 ITB

    1) Benteke to Deeney?
    2) Hazard + Cazorla to Mane + Sterling w/4 pt hit?

    Thoughts? I'm 50 in my league and 250k overall so need to catch up.

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    1. Epic Fail
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Get Sanchez

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      1. OnlyCassettes
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Hazard + Cazorla to Sanchez + Pereyra?

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  17. Mayo for Sam
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Best option to fund Hazard to Sanchez

    A) Baines or Valencia -> 4.5 def
    B) Antonio -> Snodgrass
    C) Benteke -> Austin

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    1. Sgt. Schultz
      10 years, 24 days ago

      either A or C. C could turn out good with Southampton on the ascendancy.

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  18. Karan_G14
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Ibra owners what do you plan to do? He's surely a Keep against Stoke. But after that? What if he scores a brace or hatty keeping him or ditching to upgrade somewhere else?
    I'm thinking he's out for me after Stoke.

    Appreciate your thoughts!

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    1. Epic Fail
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Get rid for whom?

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  19. nevins84
    10 years, 24 days ago

    I have Firm Sanchez need to replace KDB...

    Sterling? Then upgrade Negredo for -4 for a 1 week punt WC on Int break.. Best 1 week striker punt around the 8m mark..

    Have troll and aggy

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    1. ankj70
      10 years, 24 days ago

      what about ozil or walcott - arsenal fix for next 4 GW tasty?

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      1. nevins84
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Dont fancy an arsenal double in mid.. I might double up with 2 of the lfc trio though...

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        1. ankj70
          10 years, 24 days ago

          normally don't like doubling up but arsenal fixtures are so good next 4 weeks - can always bring KDB back when he is fit again...

          Only reason i'm worried about going for another liverpool mid is rotation risk

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    2. Sylas
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Coutinho & Ighalo?

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    3. Sgt. Schultz
      10 years, 24 days ago

      KDB > Mane
      Neg > Rash/Deeney/Defoe/Austin/Benteke (take ur pick) 🙂

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      1. nevins84
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Rash is defo in contention... Mane over Sterling? Coin toss really that one i tink

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  20. PvA
    10 years, 24 days ago

    An obscure player, but does anyone know if Kaboul will play tomorrow?

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    1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      10 years, 24 days ago

      I think he is having a late fitness test

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  21. Whats the Huth
    10 years, 24 days ago

    To get Sanchez in.

    Baines to Holebas.
    Or
    Firmino to Lallana

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    1. Epic Fail
      10 years, 24 days ago

      A

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    2. nevins84
      10 years, 24 days ago

      A

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    3. Whats the Huth
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Wow.
      Cheers lads

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  22. D0GS B0110XS FC
    10 years, 24 days ago

    ozil/ibra/nacho out for Rashford/lukaku/sanzhez???
    or
    ibra/ozil out for sanchez/lukaku?

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  23. caldracula
    10 years, 24 days ago

    De Bruyne to which Liverpool mid?

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    1. JØ
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Mané.

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    2. Epic Fail
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Firmino

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    3. ANON.
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Mane

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    4. nevins84
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Any of the trio really

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    5. Horlicks esq.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 24 days ago

      ultimate question.

      - Coutinho for ability to score big points, consistency an issue.
      - Firmino bound to take points soon, but not on the end of things.
      - Mane explosive but 9m
      - Lallana seems consistent in the mix.
      - Milner on all things penalties.

      Lallana is my answer .

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    6. Lecky Legs FC
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Mane

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  24. Horlicks esq.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    10 years, 24 days ago

    My whittled down options are

    a) Haz and Lamela for Mane & Mata (-4)

    b) Lamela and Benteke for Lallana & Rashford (-4)

    c) Haz, Lamela and Diamonde for Lallana, Mata and Rashford (-8)

    d) Save and keep TF

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  25. marquinhos
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Puncheon to Snodgrass this week?

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  26. ANON.
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Ibra + Antonio to Sanchez + Defoe/Deeney -4?

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    1. Horlicks esq.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Antonio is a bit knee jerk, but Sanchez is a must.

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      1. ANON.
        10 years, 24 days ago

        So yes or no?

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        1. Horlicks esq.
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 24 days ago

          If thats what it takes then yes.

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  27. LeicesterA
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Any thoughts on which option really appreciated...

    A) Payet, Mahrez & Lamela > Sanchez, Couthino & Walcott (-8)
    B) Payet, Mahrez & Lamela > Sanchez, Sterling, Lallana (-8)
    C) Mahrez & Lamela > Sanchez & Iwobi (-4)
    D) Payet & Mahrez > Sanchez & Couthino (-4)

    Thanks very much.

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    1. ANON.
      10 years, 24 days ago

      B

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      1. LeicesterA
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Thank you.

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  28. Pinky and Brain
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Decision has been made - goodbye Hazard, hello Coutinho.

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    1. Lecky Legs FC
      10 years, 24 days ago

      I said goodbye to KDB & Haz and said helll to Mane & Sanchez instead 🙂

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    2. sinik
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      10 years, 24 days ago

      would have gotten Firmino
      http://members.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/public-stats-tables/view/13461/

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      1. Pinky and Brain
        10 years, 24 days ago

        Had a look at stats and I can say that you can get any outcome by adjusting stats as you want. All of them are good options, but just feel that Coutinho will be more involved in everything they create. Also his price gives me more freedom with next moves.

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        1. sinik
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          10 years, 24 days ago

          Price is a fair reason but "I can say that you can get any outcome by adjusting stats as you want." is a garbage statement 😐

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          1. Pinky and Brain
            10 years, 24 days ago

            Well it depends if you prioritize SiT as you in table, or for example Sot or Shoot or Chances created per minute. Each of them will give you other player to pick

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            1. Pinky and Brain
              10 years, 24 days ago

              SiB I mean of course.

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            2. sinik
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              10 years, 24 days ago

              Well Mane and Firmino have more chances created, shots in the box and penalty area touches. Firmino also has played one game less.

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              1. Pinky and Brain
                10 years, 24 days ago

                Coutinho has least minutes from them and I always look at last 4 gameweeks when it comes to attacking players. Will give it one more closer look

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                1. sinik
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  10 years, 24 days ago

                  I was looking at the table filtered to last 3 weeks, for clarity.

                  Also Coutinho only has 50 fewer minutes than both of them, over the season.

                  Coutinho isn't an awful pick by any means. I just know that of the 3, he'll be the least directly involved and the most likely to sit a bit deeper on days Klopp plays an actual striker in addition to Firmino and Mane, considering Lallana is nailed on at the moment.

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    3. sinik
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      10 years, 24 days ago

      or Mane

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  29. Marson01
    10 years, 24 days ago

    soare negredo ibrahimovic -----> coleman rashford aguero (-8) ?

    Someone talk me out of it real quick before i pull the trigger.....

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    1. Epic Fail
      10 years, 24 days ago

      Zlatan would be my captain this GW.

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  30. KJT123
    10 years, 24 days ago

    Stones or VVD out for Holebas?

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