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Dugout Discussion – Everton vs Liverpool

19 December 2016 3381 comments
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Gameweek 17 delivers one last match for Fantasy managers as Everton entertain Liverpool in the first Merseyside derby of the season.

Adam Lallana arrives at Goodison as the most sought-after target in Fantasy Premier League last week – over 290,000 drafted him in on the back of a 19-point haul at Middlesbrough.

Divock Origi was the number one forward for transfers in ahead of Gameweek 17 – the Liverpool frontman has recovered from a knock and is looking to score for the fifth successive Gameweek.

In terms of FPL captains, Romelu Lukaku and Sadio Mane are the two most popular picks for tonight’s match.

The big Belgian has struggled for form, though, failing to earn points in five of his previous six league outings.

Although he’s flourished at Anfield, Mane has disappointed on the road, serving up six blanks in eight road trips.

Meanwhile, Roberto Firmino – the third most transferred out ahead of Gameweek 17 – will be looking to stop the fire sale and end a run of five straight blanks against a defence with just a single clean sheet in 12 attempts.

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  1. Fpl Richie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Related to my last post, did anyone get a look at Origi yesterday enough to suggest he's at least nailed for a few more games?

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    1. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      He wasn't good. Wouldn't surprise me to see Sturrudge start the next game

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      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        This.

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      2. Fpl Richie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks. You think get rid?

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    2. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Not his best showing. Worked hard

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  2. @FPLStrategist
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I just get the feeling that this is the most important week of transfers for me so far this season.

    Alderweireld is a doubt right now, Costa serves a single-game ban, I grow tired of Kane who SHOULD have been perfect captain material recently, Origi has Sturridge sniffing around him and it is around GW18 that I said I need Arsenal coverage. I also have Mane off to the ACON but that is in the new year.

    I have 2 FTs this week and my current team is as follows...

    Pickford
    Alderweireld / Alonso / Amat
    Hazard / Mane / Eriksen / Sigurdsson / Fletcher
    Kane / Origi

    BENCH: Foster / Costa / Kone / Pieters

    I have 0.0 in bank.

    Anyone see some good transfers?

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    1. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Toby and kane to Jones and ibra if you have the money.

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    2. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Toby and Kane to Valencia and ibra

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  3. Moin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Transfer Rumors:

    - Southampton boss Claude Puel is keen on raiding previous club Nice for highly-rated midfielder Wylan Cyprien. (Daily Mirror)

    - Rudy Gestede is set to join West Brom from neighbours Aston Villa in a £7m January deal. (The Sun)

    - Manchester United boss Jose Mourinho is willing to sell Memphis Depay for as little as £12m in a desperate bid to get him out of Old Trafford. (Daily Star)

    - Dimitri Payet is refusing to rule out leaving West Ham for a return to his old club Marseille. (Daily Mail)

    - Inter and AC Milan ready to make a move for Manchester United's Marouane Fellaini. (Daily Mail)

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Well they all seem solid 😛

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      1. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Depay could become the next Pogba, sell at 12m, buy at 120m

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          😀

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    2. Pochecinno
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I'd take Depay at Spurs for that money. As long as Poch thinks his attitude is alright, of course.

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    3. Haggis
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Won't become any easier to defend Bruntholino crosses with both Rondon and Gestede in the air.

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  4. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Is anyone on here NOT getting Ibra?

    If so, what are your reasons?

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    1. GreenArrows
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Cant afford it unless I downgrade Hazard, Sanchez, Eriksen, Siggy, Alonso

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      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I know what you mean. I haven't got a big hitter I feel comfortable downgrading either.

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    2. Moin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Mkhitarian at 8.9 and Mata at 7.3

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    3. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Don't want to sell Kane Costa or Hazard. I think Ibra will miss one of the next 3 games but the others won't

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      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        True. Rooney and Rashford may get a run out. Managers tend to rotate for what they consider easy home games.

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      2. Moin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Next 6 are kind of must win, if they want CL..so don't think Ibra will get rested

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      3. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I don't think he will be rested either, look at his record 90mins bar the Arsenal game(ban) and Ibra has just stated he could play till 50.

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    4. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Francine!

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    5. Urchin
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Coz already own him 😉

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  5. Arn De Gothia
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I have allways had heavyhitters in midfield, thats why this feels so wrong but right. Aiming for this lineup, plz talk me out of it?

    Grant / Heaton

    Azpi / Alonso / Rose / Jones / Ake

    Lallana / Sanchez / Morrison / Adam / Forshaw

    COSTA / IBRA / KUN

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    1. mikess
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Probably score alright but just no. Midfield I'd where all the fun is

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      1. Arn De Gothia
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Thnx. sadly i think i have to aggree with you

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  6. Drastic
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Good morning all! Im kinda worried that Costa's suspension will ruin my next gw. My current team is

    Pickfor
    Alonso-Vertonghen-Cedric-Zuniga
    Haz-Siggy-Wally-Lallana
    Origi-Ibra

    Subs: Jaku-Fletcher-Kingsley-Costa

    I got 0.8itb and already used my ft to get Ibra in for Kane. Do you guys think im gtg or should i tak a hit and make some changes?

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  7. Christina.
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Will KdB match Kun.

    That's the Crux of it.

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Well that depends on kun's gametime. All things equal, hell no.

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      1. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Because of the late Costa purchase Kosta+Kun+Kibra kills my milfs.

        Wish the season would just end.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          This

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    2. mikess
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I think he'll out score him, only matter of time before he's getting double figure returns imo.

      Slight side note, for a player to miss 6 games suspended at that price is unforgivable imo

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      1. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        yeah, water under the bridge now. only half the season left.

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  8. The Left Duke #3
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    After a third red arrow in a row and a drop from OR 16k to 55k, I need to stop the rot. Brought in Ibra and Jones with 2FT Sat night so am set for Stephens Day. Any advice on improving the team moving forward?

    Pick Jaku
    Alonso Vertonghen Holebas Amat Jones
    Sanchez Hazard Siggy Payet Capoue
    Kane Ibra Diomande

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    1. Over Midwicket
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Need to upgrade one of Diomande and Capoue... How much do you have ITB?

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      1. The Left Duke #3
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        0.0m ITB (TV 104.9m)

        Ya I think I finally need to sort them out. Payet seems the natural one to downgrade to fund either transfer. I was hoping to use these funds for Kun though. Always seem to find myself changing elsewhere and Dio/Cap remain stinking up my team lol

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        1. Over Midwicket
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          You can easily play 4 at the back this week, so just downgrade Capoue, save a FT with a mind to do Payet + Diomande -> Someone and someone the week after?

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      2. mikess
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        This. Payet out. Would you go 343 or 352?

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  9. Mr. O'Connell
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Likely minutes for Mata and Blind next 2 matches? Looking at Draft pickups

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  10. Benteke Fried Chicken
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Who gets the most points this week?
    Jones & Hazard, or
    Azpi & Walcott (-4)

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    1. The Left Duke #3
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      J & H

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  11. Costa's Counsellor
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Time to change the rules on retrospective bans?

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    1. Get up ya bum
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      how so? Ban the retrospective bans? Sounds good to me. If the ref didn't see it it didn't happen

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    2. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      What do you have in mind?

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      1. Costa's Counsellor
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        I think it's unfair that if someone gets a yellow they escape further action.

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        1. Get up ya bum
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Oh. I disagree then.

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          1. Costa's Counsellor
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            What about the Barkley incident?

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            1. Get up ya bum
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 2 months ago

              Ref mistakes are part of the game. Once you go down the route of hindsight with video footage I think the game suffers

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        2. Pasqualinho
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          Can of worms, that one. It's basically a higher power telling a referee he was wrong - which to a certain extent is ok, because we want referees to be more accountable for their mistakes. But it's not a direction the lawmakers tend to go with. To absolve a ref from blame because he didn't see it is always a safe option.

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        3. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          If there are exceptional circumstances the player can still be punished (see Ben Thatcher on Pedro Mendes c. 2006)

          Also the McManaman/Haidara incident a few years ago prompted a rule change so that retrospective action can be taken against a player even if the officials saw the incident.

          Broadly speaking you're right though: yellow card in game = no retrospective action.

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          1. Costa's Counsellor
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 2 months ago

            Ah, I didn't know that. I think that's spot on then.

            Barkley's challenge was nasty but not in the same league as those examples.

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  12. Jonny Sutt
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    A) lallana and courtois
    B) Erikson and heaton

    If b) what if it was just lallana or erikson?

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  13. Urchin
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Any BBL fantasy tips from the Australians in the community? Who are the players to watch in Sydney derby today?

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  14. Jam0sh
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Hello guys. What would you do with this lot? Wildcarding in ten days so could also do with a punt before that.

    Heaton
    Alonso, Walker, Amat
    Antonio, Sanchez, Sigurdsson, Capoue, Hazard
    Ibrahimovic, Origi

    subs: Foster --- Pieters, Nyom, Costa --- 0 FT, 0.6 ITB

    A) Pieters -> Jones (-4)
    B) Siggy -> Walcott (-4)
    C) Stick

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    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      C.

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  15. Flynny
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Hi all....

    Is it worth using an ft to do Evans to phil Jones?

    Or best to save it ( possibly helping me to get Kun in gw20)

    Heaton pickford
    Alonso cedric Evans Pieters amat
    Sanchez firmino Hazard zaha capoue
    Kane ibra llorente

    Thanks

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    1. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Jones might be short term as the Lindelof deal is looking close - depending on whether Jones takes the other spot in Bailly's absence of course. Either way it's looking like a transfer out in 2 to 5 weeks.

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    2. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Do it, great chances of 2 CS in the next 2

      Worry about Sergio when it comes

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  16. Blanka
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I'm doing Costa to Benteke

    But is it also worth doing Walcott to Sanchez for a - 4?

    Feel I've lucky with Theo chipping in with goals here and there, besides the one Sanchez haul I missed. Don't wanna miss another one.

    Alternatively could keep Theo for a bit, although perhaps possible rotation risk around Xmas or keep Theo and bring Sanchez in for someone else, Siggy?

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Not for a hit
      I swapped Walcott for Sanchez and since then Walcott has bagged, Sanchez hasn't

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  17. Concrete
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Can't get a break this year, anything I'm missing?

    Heaton Pickford
    Alonso Ake Evans Holebas Amat
    Sanchez Hazard Eriksen Sigurdsson Allen
    Ibra Kane Llorente

    Zero ITB

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    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      3 swans.

      suicide.

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      1. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers
        Need to move one on soon

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    2. Partick Bateman
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Looks alright for this GW. Swansea at home not as bad as Swansea away.

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      1. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Cheers, pal

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    3. danishdynamite
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Siggy can become Chadli in a few weeks time, which should free up enough cash for Llorente > Benteke

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      1. Concrete
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Thanks, will defo have a look at these moves

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  18. sillyhilly69
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Getting rid of Kane > Ibra

    Need to remove a defender (-4), thinking of Ake, who's best to get rid of now

    A) Williams
    B) Cedric

    Williams I was dead-set on but recent points and the fact he finds himself in the box every now and then makes me want to keep. Alternatively Cedric's a decent attacker and pulls in the assists.

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      A

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    2. danishdynamite
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Everton don't seem capable of a cleanie, and McCarthy knack is hardly gonna help that situation.

      Both EVE and SOU have betetr fixture sin january, and I'd go for Cedric as there's infiintely more upside to him than Williams IMHO

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      1. sillyhilly69
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Thank you both. Much appreciated.

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    3. skully
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Cedric not consistence ..and SOT always conceded

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  19. jorgenoj
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Foster-Jakupovic
    Jones-Alonso-Cedric-Lovren-Amat
    Sanchez-Siggy-Mane-Capoue-Gundo
    Costa-Ibra-Nacho

    What to do? No free transfers, but still got my WC.

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    1. skully
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      No free tranfers? wht did u do?

      juz play 3-5-2...and pray..

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  20. seaside
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Lovren to Jones or save the FT?

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Save

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  21. Partick Bateman
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Who will come in to the Leicester backline for Everton?

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Not sure, sorry

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  22. TheTinman
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    If KDB is the answer then what is the question.... I'm stuck in no man's land

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Avoid KdB and City

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    2. Hazari300
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I'm sticking because his a differential

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    3. greghammer95
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Who should I not get as City cover?

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    4. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      The Q is can

      KdB+Coutinho+Rondon beat

      Kun+Lalana+Philips...?

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  23. seaside
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Pickford Grant
    Alonso Lovren Holebas Nyom Amat
    Alexis Eden Firmino Siggy Fletcher
    Zlatan Kane Carroll

    1 FT, 0 ITB.

    transfers I am considering:
    Lovren -> Jones or Brunt
    Firmino -> ?
    Carroll -> ?

    I think Lovren or Firmino have priority. I was going to get Costa for Kane next GW. What are you suggestions?

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Lpool v Stoke next? Leave them and do the first one

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      1. HVT
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        Is Carroll still at Liverpool?

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        1. Concrete
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 2 months ago

          The last one

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  24. ViperStripes
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    I already have Alonso.

    Considering one of these 2 transfers

    A) AZPI
    Pro's:
    - Plays Bournemouth next
    - Rising in price might gain a little by WC time.
    - solid defence
    - bonus magnet
    Con's:
    - I have Alonso
    - 6.4m tied up when Aguero on way back and Ibra and Costa performing well.
    - means I'll have no room to get Hazard AND Costa back in

    B) ROSE
    Pro's
    - Fixtures look ok coming up
    - on form
    - 0.5m cheaper than Azpi
    - spreads risk

    Con's
    - not keeping as many clean sheets as Chelsea
    - flagged with a knock

    Anything else to consider between these 2 heavy hitters? Which would you go for and why?

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    1. HVT
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Rose in your case.

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    2. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Rose... spread the chances of points

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    3. greghammer95
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Consider Bellerin. Could've missed the best of Rose' points already.

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  25. Hazari300
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Hey guys, when must clubs release players for AFCON?

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  26. FPL Footy Show Pod
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Before rise and falls - should I do Kane to Ibra or hold the FT?

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I'd do it

      I did Costa to Ibra cos I won't lose much cash

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  27. Forjaz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Grant / Pickford

    Alonso Monreal Amat (Francis Browning)

    Sanchez Hazard Walcott Pogba Mane

    Ibra Benteke (Anichebe)

    Is it ok for the next two GW's?

    0 itb, btw.

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Yea looks good

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  28. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Pickford Jak
    Alonso Walker Lovren McAuley Amat
    Sanchez Hazard Eriksen Firmino Sigurdsson
    Ibra Origi Diomande
    Anything worth a hit? 0.6m itb.

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      No, good for a 352

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    2. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      nahh but fear for firmino and origi. one is awfully off from and other is a rotation risk

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  29. DementedFlamingo
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Arsenal fixtures look great but are they fools gold? Are there a lot of rotation risks within the team or do we feel Sanchez and Ozil are critical for Arsenal over the next 5 GWs

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    1. Concrete
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Sanchez and Walcott IMO

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      1. HurriKane
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 2 months ago

        this, no better time to double up on

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    2. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      they surely need to bounce back after consecutive defeats.

      fixtures couldnt be any better. expect them to put the weaker teams to the sword

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    3. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      wow...blast from the past!

      how you?

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  30. TheTinman
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 2 months ago

    Kane, Firmino, Karius out
    Benteke, KDB, DeGea in?

    -4

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    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      I would.

      In a heartbeat.

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    2. HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      Yes

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    3. Park the bus
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 2 months ago

      looks pretty good to me

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