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2 January 2017 2295 comments
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Just 24-hours after waving goodbye to Gameweek 19, we’re underway again as the exhausting festive period draws to a close.

In Fantasy terms, we at least appear to be eased into this next round of fixtures.

Middlesbrough host Leicester City in a match-up that, on paper, harbours little interest for Fantasy managers.

Alvaro Negredo and Gaston Ramirez are perhaps the major attacking assets on show, as we get the opportunity to scout their potential ahead of Boro’s kind run of January fixtures.

Given that Middlesbrough have scored just 17 goals from their 19 matches, Aitor Karanka’s defence is perhaps more likely to offer us profit, with Ben Gibson already backed by 9.6% of FPL managers. He starts today but, elsewhere in the Boro rearguard, a knee injury to keeper Victor Valdes keeps him out of action, while George Friend is relegated to the bench having returned to the starting XI at Old Trafford in Gameweek 19.

They are part of five changes made by both Middlesbrough and Leicester, perhaps indication of a turbulent day for the teamsheets.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. THE REAL RON ⚽
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Gameweek Stats
    (credit to Smarty Pants)
    https://fpldiscovery.wordpress.com/2017/01/02/1617-gw20-team-selection-and-stats/#more-6979

    CAPTAINS %
    Top 10k
    Sanchez - 25.4
    Ibra - 20.8
    Aguero - 15.2
    Costa - 7.7
    Lallana - 4.3

    Overall
    Ibra - 23.8
    Costa - 12.2
    Sanchez - 12.0
    Aguero - 11.1
    Hazard - 4.8

    WILDCARDS THIS GW
    Top 10k - 7.3%
    Overall - 4.0%

    1. Cookie Kid
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Surprised Captain Phillips isn't at least 50%

      1. THE REAL RON ⚽
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        1.8% in top 10k. 🙂

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No one has captained Brunt... That is either very good, or very bad for me 🙂

      1. JustPark
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I am

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Good luck mate... We could be heroes!

          1. JustPark
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            We shall. Haha!

      2. THE REAL RON ⚽
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        0.3% in top 10k. 😀

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          So that's 30 teams... Hmmmm

    3. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Interesting that Aguero isn't that big a deal in the grand scheme of things this week.

    4. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      so lots of the top 10k gambled with Aguero

    5. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lots of early wild cards also in the top 10k

  2. UnitednationsXI
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Hi all,

    quick question..is it worth attending a game but sitting in the away end?

    havnt seen any united games this season and can get west ham home end tickets...worth getting? obviously cant cheer but worth it eitherway to watch the game?

    1. THE REAL RON ⚽
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'd rather watch it on tv.

    2. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      No it's terrible being in oppo fans

    3. GoonerByron
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I would if you enjoy football anyway. Will still be a great experience, like you said unless you're a die hard travel every week you're not going to get Man Utd away tickets anyway so if you have the chance to get in the ground and watch it I would.

    4. UnitednationsXI
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      tough call...

    5. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      It's not a great football stadium tbh, but if no other choices then an away game is always fun!

      1. Conk
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I would go for it, I am doing the same thing with Spurs Chelsea on Wednesday

    6. joeydordon
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Watched us in stadium of light home end! Brilliant day!

    7. joeydordon
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Did u go

  3. boc610
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    the scenes on here if nacho got the nod today...ive got the popcorn ready to go just in case

    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Followed up by Gabriel Jesus starting the next GW.

      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        It might seem like I'm joking, but Pep has forced out massive players from clubs before. Never know what could happen with Kun if Pep takes a shine to Gabriel Jesus.

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      It would break the site, an explosion of rage of epic proportions.

    3. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Oh yes.

    4. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Would be glorious

    5. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Pep is a horrible manager so it's possible

    6. A.T
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      When City were 1-0 down and chasing the game, Pep gave him 2 mins. That tells you what he thinks of Nacho.

      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed. Nolito false 9 confirmed.

        1. A.T
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          🙂

    7. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Yep, -8 incoming if this happens!

    8. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Best......thing......EVER!

      (not gonna happen though, is it)

  4. Numb
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone watching? Any score yet?

    1. THE REAL RON ⚽
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Two fairly solid defences against two blunt attacks.

  5. Spencer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Woah, just seen I got thrashed in the FPL Cup, even though he had Andre Gray points on the bench.

    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/team/899775/event/19

    Oh well. Next year, its mine!

    1. A.T
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Typical kopite 😉

    2. Az
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      you are so unlucky that team had the best week imaginable!

  6. GK
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    So my ML rival always seems to go a bit left field with his picks and get away with it. He's just pulled the trigger on his WC - what do you make of it chaps?

    Grant
    Dann, Lovren, Nyom
    Alexis (vc), Hazard, Lallana, Iwobi, Zaha
    Aguero (c), Costa

    (Jakupovic)(Jones, Williams, Barnes)

    1. TokyoRisingSun
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Zaha is a terrible choice on WC.

      1. GK
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Presume he may switch to Phillips next week!

    2. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Not as apart from Zaha and iwobi

      1. Robe Wan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        *bad

    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      That's a good team - he'll get a bit of a shock with Nyom and Zaha, though 🙂

      1. GoonerByron
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Nyom isn't going to AFCON

        1. Spencer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          I thought he'd been called up?

        2. 1966 was a great year for E…
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          It's changed again?!

          1. GoonerByron
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            Thought he said he wouldn't travel despite being called up?

            1. 1966 was a great year for E…
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 1 month ago

              I think he's going now.

        3. Malcolm Tucker for England …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          except, y'know, he is..

    4. Spencer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Nyom and Zaha both going to AFCON right?

    5. Sillet Bang
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I like it

      1. GK
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        I'm now worried by all the positivity 😆

        He's only got a TV of 102m as well!

  7. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    De Roon balloons chance over the bar

  8. Somalion
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    He may be getting on, but Essien on a free transfer would be a decent addition for a lot of the relegation fighters.

    1. Grand Thibauto
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Martin Caceres is still a free agent believe it or not

      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Wow, he's only 29 as well. A guy with that sort of experience would be excellent for a defensive calamity like Swansea. Nice spot.

    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      For sure.

  9. karvs155
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Who do I drop for Aguero?
    A) Hazard
    B) Ibra
    C) Costa
    D) Sanchez

    1. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard for me.

    2. CloudSky
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Haz from that lot.

    3. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      C just. Unless you want all of your money in your forwards (In which case A).

    4. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Waaaaaaaaait

  10. Jamie_GAWA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 1 month ago

    Just a quick thought on GK rotation

    Ville Rönkä's (arguably the best fpl player) gk rotation stats since his we (gw4) were quite interesting. I excluded week 13+14 as Heaton was injured so no rotation was possible.

    His Foster/Heaton rotation got him 59 points

    If he had have played just Foster he would have got 38 points

    If he had have just played Heaton he would have got 62 points.

    Villa Rönkä is the player I'd back to have the most logical judgement out of his for picking the correct keeper and that's why I picked him.

    Conclusion

    Not only did the rotation got him .5 more than 4.5/4 combo it also lost him 3 points.

    Would be interesting if others could take 2 minutes out of their time to count wether their rotation has gained or lost them points.

    1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I have always lost the rotation gamble so never again

    2. Limited & Mediocre Mana…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Variance

    3. Harper_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Since Myhill/Butland last year I vowed never again to a £4.5/£4.5 rotation, its too hard to judge who will get the points

    4. Winks Club
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      It didn't lose him 3 points. What if he went with only Foster?

    5. Business Cat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I've had Heaton Pickford most of the season

      Would've been better playing Heaton every game.

      Benched his superman 0-0 away at United and his penalty save a few weeks ago due to "playing the percentages".

      Trusted Heaton away at WBA...concedes 4 goals...

      Currently in a Heaton Valdes rotation cos Burnley's fixtures are terrible...so haven't learned anything 🙂

    6. THE REAL RON ⚽
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      I'm not adding it all up, and I've had four different keepers, so it's not too easy.

      But in the weeks I've had two playing keepers, I've chosen the correct one 7 times, and the wrong one 3 times, with 1 draw.

      Take that. 🙂

      1. THE REAL RON ⚽
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        *I'll take that. 🙂

    7. MTPockets
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Foster has 62 points, and GW1314 both 3pts = 56

        1. Jamie_GAWA
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Read carefully, its since his gw4 wildcard..

      • Jordan.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        courtois 84 points and 4.0m 0, shove rotation...

    8. Emiliano Sala
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Valdes assist coming

      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Difficult to assist when you're still rolling around crying because you jumped into Ibra.

    9. Rolls-Royce
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Any reason people preferring Costa over Hazard?

      Only 3 pts behind Costa, on Penos, cheaper than Costa and potentially more explosive.

      1. Bun Rab
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Consistency. He doesn't even need service, he just scores.

      2. diesel001
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Costa consistency at his price.

      3. Shultan
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Purchase price, if you bought at 9.6/9.7 its harder to let considering how much he's gone up

      4. Hairy Potter
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Had more money invested in Costa and feel he is more fixture proof in terms of getting FPL points.

    10. Shultan
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Alonso yellow flagged, rumours origi not starting this is not going to be a good week

      1. rivercityransom
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        does anyone know the rumoured liverpool team?

        1. 1966 was a great year for E…
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          This is supposed to be the team:

          Mignolet; Clyne, Lovren, Klavan, Milner; Can, Wijnaldum, Lallana; Mane, Sturridge, Firmino.

          1. rivercityransom
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            hopefully you're right

      2. Bun Rab
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        It's only this game left of rotation. You'll be fine from this week on until DGW's.

    11. JustPark
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Imo, Kun doesn't start for Burnely. At least not 60 minutes on the pitch that's for sure!

      1. GREENDREAMS11
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        for sure ? right ?

      2. Oven Glover
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        No, but he'll start for City!

        1. GREENDREAMS11
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          ha ha 😉

      3. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Nope, he starts for City

      4. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        agreed. and ibra won't for Hull, nor Costa for Swansea

      5. Optimus.
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        You sound like a non owner? 😉

        1. JustPark
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Justifying my decision not to have him(as essential).

    12. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Lousy performance by both teams.

      1. Bun Rab
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Not the open attacking flowing football you were expecting?

        1. Oven Glover
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Haha. Didn't expect a thriller but they play like utter crap.

    13. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Complete meltdown if Ramsey gets the nod over Sanchez today. Alexi looked absolutely knackered last time out..

      1. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Looked to me like he was just tired of people not giving him the ball when he was through on goal.

        1. Davidinho
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          This

        2. BrockLanders
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Fair point. But I watched his movement and he was very much having a burst of a rum then resting for periods. Wouldn't be surprised if Wenger gave him the day off..

          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 1 month ago

            FA Cup on Saturday or Sunday I think against Preston (?) so I'd reckon he could be rested then.

      2. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        100% won't happen today

      3. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Sanchez definitely won't start today. Yesterday he was conserving himself for tomorrow

      4. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Sanchez doesn't rest. Biggest tank in the league.

        1. BrockLanders
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Barragan hammy. Pls not Friend 55mins

    14. The Enlightener
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Why does this site keep freezing on me recently when I am accessing via mobile? And why in God's name is Gaston Ramirez in the scout picks?

      1. Business Cat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Think there's a slow loading javascript asset...prevents the page load finishing properly

        1. The Enlightener
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Sounds about right. Just started happening in the last week. Annoying.

    15. BrockLanders
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Who's the highest owned defender on show today so I can cheer on the opposition?

      1. El-Kloppico
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Alonso & McAuley imo

        1. BrockLanders
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Sorry meant in this match? De Roon?

      2. 1966 was a great year for E…
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Stones, maybe? McAuley?

    16. Jake Donahue
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Over 7% in top 10k hit the WC button.....More than I would have expected

      1. Oven Glover
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        For Kun it seems

        1. Jake Donahue
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah looks that way, I would rather take an 8 point hit than burn the wc

      2. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Less than I expected

    17. fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      My defense has been shambolic for the first half of the season and I'm looking at correcting that asap.

      Please pick two from the haves to get rid off, and two from the wants to bring in

      Have:
      A) Nyom
      B) Williams
      C) Smith

      Want:
      A) Rose
      B) Bellerin/Alonso
      C) Baines

      1. THE REAL RON ⚽
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        A and C aren't playing. Rose and Bellerin best of those. Not really a fair swap though considering the £££.

        1. fedolefan
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          That's fine. Mane will turn into a Stanislas or Philips.

        2. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Nyom isnt playing..... Well that is news to the rest of us....

      2. Ginkapo FPL
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Keep Nyom. Great Value if nothing else. Sits nicely alongside Amat and Ake in my defense. Oh the cheapness!

        Rose has good fixtures incoming, and Alonso really adds a nice stalwart in the centre playing week in week out for the fantasy team.

    18. BrutalLogiC
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      It's time for Friend to come on

    19. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Fella in my ML went straight swap for Ibra to Kun and banged the armband on him.

      Dear Lord I hope he blanks.

      1. Business Cat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        A hamstring injury would be more fun 🙂

        1. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          Yes please. 10 mins in.

        2. Jarnathan
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 1 month ago

          After botching a penalty

      2. Numb
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Don't fancy your chances much against Burnley!

    20. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      What to do with Sanchez with Giroud back up top and cash being necessary to do the inevitable surgery to get Aguero back in?

    21. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Barrigan hammy gone

    22. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Barragan hammy

      friend warming up

      1. THE REAL RON ⚽
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        😆

    23. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Barragan hammy gone!

    24. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Barragan out - Friend IN

    25. Lizard Lips
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      George Friend really starting to annoy me. Hope Leicester score.

      1. GENERATION X
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        one pointer

    26. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      Friend comes on 32nd min

      1. Business Cat
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        Harsh!

      2. Winks Club
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 1 month ago

        FFS

    27. Conk
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 1 month ago

      2 minutes too late George