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After examining the strategies deployed by those in the top ten of our latest Hall of Fame refresh, the second part of our analysis looks deeper into their player selection and their “template” squad.

For those unfamiliar with the Hall of Fame, this is a ranking system applied to everyone who takes part in our Fantasy Premier League mini-leagues – both the free and members league. Managers’ performances are then traced to give a Hall of Fame rating.

The Live version is updated after each Gameweek and can be viewed by Members via this link.

The career version, which shows the standings at the end of each season, is free to view here or via the HoF tab in the main menu. For more information about how those at the top of the career HoF are doing, we urge you to read TopMarx’s latest community article.

If you would like to know more about the Hall of Fame we have included a quick guide in this article. Alternatively, you can view this movie to listen to Mark and Rate My Team’s Chris Atkinson talk you through it.

Let’s now take a look at the current top ten live HoF managers’ players and the template that emerges from this “elite” group.

Goalkeepers

Given that our analysis of the top ten’s strategies showed an eagerness to exploit double Gameweeks, it seems likely that their future moves will be governed by these changes in the fixture schedule. This certainly looks the case for their next goalkeeper transfers.

Sunderland’s Jordan Pickford (4.1) and Tom Heaton (5.1) are the most popular picks, sitting in seven and six sides respectively. This pair are also the most popular combination, with four elite managers opting for both.

Cost is a key factor in their selection, with the Burnley man starting at just 4.5 and the Black Cats young keeper available for 4.0 for early adopters.

The ability to make saves is also part of the appeal – Heaton’s haul of 111 is top amongst stoppers, while Pickford has accrued an impressive 87 from his 19 starts – his average of 19.8 minutes per stop is quicker than any regular.

Heaton’s outstanding value for money is further highlighted by the fact that he has produced 21 bonus points – at least three times all but one other keeper.

FPL’s second most popular keeper Hull’s Eldin Jakupovic (4.1), West Brom’s Ben Foster (4.7) and Stoke’s Lee Grant (4.4) are all in two sides and are the only other custodians trusted by our top ten.

But with Crystal Palace’s Wayne Hennessey (4.3), Middlesbrough’s Victor Valdes (4.6) and Manchester United’s David De Gea (5.4) all enjoying two fixtures in Gameweek 34, it seems certain that should a Wildcard be deployed soon, then one of this trio will find suitors.

Of these, the Red Devils keeper looks an outside bet only, given this elite group’s desire to find value between the sticks.

Another option the top ten are likely to consider is Southampton’s Fraser Forster (5.0), who, along with United and Arsenal, is set to enjoy 11 fixtures over the final nine Gameweeks.

Defenders

Change is also likely across their backlines, which look ill-prepared for the impending double Gameweeks – not one of this elite group owns a defender from Arsenal or Southampton.

Possible Saints targets could include Ryan Bertrand (5.4), who has accrued four assists in his last five starts, while Laurent Koscielny (6.2) looks another potential recruit among the Arsenal ranks, given that he has earned bonus points on eight occasions.

Only two currently own Manchester United’s raiding right back Antonio Valencia (5.8) ahead of his double Gameweek 34. The smart money will be on the Ecuadorian sitting in most of this group’s teams by then after delivering attacking or clean sheet returns in all but one of his last eight starts.

Among ‘Boro assets, Calum Chambers and George Friend (both 4.3), who are both injured, sit in just one team each. It seems possibe that they will remain, in the hope they are fit for their double Gameweek 34, which looks favourable for the Teessiders when they visit Bournemouth and host Sunderland.

But which of their current crop of defenders will they jettison?

Sadly, Everton’s Seamus Coleman (6.1), who sits in seven teams, is set to make way after suffering a leg break on international duty for Ireland on Friday.

Following this development, the four managers with Leighton Baines (5.7) may well retain him as Everton defensive cover. The same can be said for the two managers that have Ashley Williams (5.2).

West Brom defenders certainly also look surplus to requirements, given a poor upcoming schedule that includes a trip to Manchester United and a visit from Liverpool in their next four.

All of this group own a Baggies rearguard representative. However, with six goals so far, the five that currently hold Gareth McAuley (5.2) may choose to retain The same is unlikely to be said for the four Chris Brunt (5.1) owners and one manager that has Allan Nyom (4.4) on board. Neither of the latter pair has handed their owners returns since a clean sheet against Stoke in Gameweek 24.

Among the fourth and fifth defender options, Watford’s Jose Holebas (4.6) is the most popular, with three inclusions. Two have Hull City assets, in the form of Andrew Robertson (4.4) and Harry Maguire (4.4) with one endorsement each, and Swansea City’s backline is represented twice, with Alfie Mawson (4.6) and Jordi Amat (3.9) backed by one manager apiece.

Mawson’s goal threat, having scored four already, allied with trips to West Ham and Watford and home clashes with Middlesbrough and Stoke in the next five, may ensure he stays put for now.

Erik Pieters (4.7) is another that could make way, but has proved a reliable source of points for his three owners recently, with a trio of clean sheets in his last five starts.

Marcos Alonso (6.8), who sits in nine teams, is the most popular defender. Given a price hike from a low of 5.9, his removal may be a risk too far for this group.

Also, Chelsea are likely to enjoy a double Gameweek later in the season, so taking him out now could prove costly should they want to bring him back at that point.

Midfielders

The HoF top ten are just as comfortable fielding a 3-4-3 formation as they are with a 3-5-2 set-up. Their midfield selections reflects that flexibility, with all but three of this group giving themselves five strong options in the centre of the park.

Of the trio that favour a four-man midfield, two sides have opted for West Brom’s Darren Fletcher (4.5) as a makeweight, while another has the Scotsman’s injured team-mate Matt Phillips (5.5).

The rest have in the main invested in Spurs and Liverpool assets, supplemented with Gylfi Sigurdsson (7.8) and Josh King (5.8).

The Swansea set-piece specialist is backed by all but one of this group and the Bournemouth midfielder, who is being fielded as a forward, is in seven sides.

Another popular player is Liverpool’s Sadio Mane (9.7), chosen by nine of the group. The winger is clearly seen as the best route to points from the Reds’ favourable fixture run, that continues to the end of the season and includes home ties against Bournemouth, Crystal Palace, Southampton and Middlesbrough.

Two of those backing the Senegal international have also doubled up with Philippe Coutinho (8.2), although it remains to be seen whether the Brazilian, who has scored just once since returning from injury in Gameweek 21, will survive long-term.

Christian Eriksen (8.7)’s creativity and assured delivery is this group of managers’ Spurs weapon of choice.

The Dane, who has assisted 13 times, is found in seven squads, with his team-mate, Dele Alli (8.9), in just three. It remains to be seen whether the England midfielder’s penalty duties in the absence of Harry Kane will persuade more to double up or shift allegiance.

Of Alli’s three owners, two have already paired him with Eriksen, showing that this elite group are happy to invest heavily in players in the same position from an attack-minded side.

A favourable fixture run that includes trips to Burnley, Crystal Palace, and Swansea, as well as home ties with Watford and Bournemouth in their next five, add to the possibility of further Spurs investment. Mauricio Pochettino’s side are set to play ten fixtures over the final nine rounds of fixtures

Other midfielders to feature include Everton’s Ross Barkley (7.1), who is owned by two managers and Pedro (7.2) of Chelsea, who sits in just one side.

Although their midfields are looking powerful for the next few Gameweeks, sacrifices seem on the cards in Gameweek 31 when Alexis Sanchez (11.6) begins a strong run of fixtures that sees him play 11 times in the final nine Gameweeks.

Only four of our ten currently own the Arsenal man but, given our first analysis’ revelation that he has been their most popular captaincy option, it seems likely that more will follow once the tricky home clash with Manchester City in Gameweek 30 is out of the way.

Forwards

Romelu Lukaku (10.5) is owned by all of our top ten, with the Everton marksman receiving the armband frequently over the last month to contribute to some impressive recent Gameweek scores.

With his red-hot form ahead of home clashes Leicester and Burnley in the next four, the Belgian looks untouchable.

But with back-to-back trips to Liverpool and Manchester United as the Toffees’ next two fixtures, it is possible some of this group may look to temporarily remove him.

Diego Costa (10.7) has emerged as the most popular premium striker to join Lukaku, with the Spaniard now in five sides. With Crystal Palace visiting Stamford Bridge next weekend the Blues talisman looks set to be a popular Gameweek 30 captaincy pick among this group – providing, of course, he shrugs off a minor ankle problem.

Four own Sergio Aguero, but with trips to Arsenal and Chelsea coming up, they may consider exit plans. His 12.7 price tag could come in particularly handy for those looking to draft in Sanchez.

Among likely replacements are Costa or Jamie Vardy (9.8), who has scored three goals and two assists in three prior to consecutive home clashes with Stoke and Sunderland.

West Ham’s Andy Carroll (6.3) and Swansea’s Fernando Llorente (6.5), who are both in three teams, are the most popular third striker options. But as the pair were drafted in with the reduced Gameweek 28 fixtures in mind, they already seem dispensable.

Given the strength of this group’s midfield, those with one of these strikers may consider benching them while they await news of the fitness of Southampton’s Manolo Gabbiadini, who is struggling with a groin injury. The former Napoli man’s four league goals since joining in January will make him an obvious third striker target, particularly with 11 matches still to play in the final nine Gameweeks.

Two sides look to have deliberately chosen a 3-5-2 route with their forward selection, with one sticking with the injured Victor Anichebe (4.3) while the other has Burnley’s cut-price forward Ashley Barnes (4.5).

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  1. TorresMagic™
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    Price Changes - 28th March 2017

    🔼 B.Davies

    1. Sonny “The Hitman&rdq…
      • 9 Years
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      And he will go back down when Rose is back

    2. Slam
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      Is that his first or second rise?

      1. TorresMagic™
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        1st

  2. Hall of points
    TorresMagic™
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    Thinking of a better way to measure Career HoF.

    Points scored over the past 5 or more seasons. You add 2000 per season you didn't play or scored under 2000 in.

    2,112
    2,287
    2,199
    2,226
    2,122
    2,463
    2,273
    2,232
    1723

    1. tm245
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      Don't quite follow. Why 2000 as the fill in?

      1. TorresMagic™
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        2000 points is a pretty standard score for a season.
        My lowest score of 2112 is a 1712 rank.

        1. tm245
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          Would be interesting to see how to do it with OR each season. When I became a serious FFS visitor in 12-13, the regulars all talked about top 1k as the goal, with top 10k as fairly mediocre.

          Four seasons on, top 10k seems to be respected a bit more. Not sure if it is the increase in overall players from 2.5M to almost 4M, or if the competition in the top 10k has gotten that much harder.

          1. TorresMagic™
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            Points beat rank in a rating. If you had a shocker in the Suarez season, there's a bigger difference in rank. Hopefully I'll get a personal best this season so can't complain about the entries.

            1. tm245
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              See below. Not sure that I agree with this. I would argue that it might have been easier to get big points in the Suarez season when he was basically an auto captain.

              1. TorresMagic™
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                Maybe you can scale it up for the Suarez season and 07/08.

    2. TorresMagic™
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      Ville Ronka gets 20111 + 2 years of 2000 so 24111

      1. TorresMagic™
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        23637 for me 🙂

        1. TorresMagic™
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          Mark 24030

      2. tm245
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        So total points over 10 years?

        1. TorresMagic™
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          HoF starts in 06/07

    3. Cheeseoid
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      I can't help but think I might care about HOF if I had a good or near good one

      1. TorresMagic™
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        Sky HoF next.

        1. Cheeseoid
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          My 1 year history might count against me

    4. Lawrø
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      Don't like it... some seasons are just inherently higher scoring than previous seasons. 2000 is also completely arbitrary... could be decent one season and crap in another. I'd prefer a system that excludes your worst couple of seasons and then takes an average of your position/#players for each season... or something like that, I haven't quite thought it through 🙂

      1. tm245
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        Agree with Lawro.

        I posted this in the HT from yesterday:
        "Am late to the conversation but a true Hall of Fame wouldn't negatively punish someone for one offseason among several amazing ones. I would argue the ability to adapt to changes in the competition or a bad performance personally might be a clearer sign of greatness than one who can ride a wave for the past few years.

        Maybe a minimum of five or six years and then selecting the overall best among them would be a more accurate way to measure long term greatness."

        When my eyes go across the image atop this article, I am struck by the excellence of the ranks that are two or three digits. Really incredible performances, which points in any given year can't really measure in the same way.

      2. TorresMagic™
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        You get punished more if you fail in the higher scoring seasons, seems fair. 2000 in 06/07 was a great score, not so much in 07/08 when looking at Marks ranks

        2006/07 2,041 2,217
        2007/08 2,252 2,392

        1. Lawrø
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          I don't think score should matter, it is all about finishing position in my opinion. #1 in 15/16 should have exactly the same weighting as #1 in 16/17

          1. Lawrø
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            Well not exactly actually, as there's more players in 16/17 it's actually more impressive regardless of score to me

          2. Get up ya bum
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            This

          3. TorresMagic™
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            Maybe 90% of winning score can be the base score for that season.

          4. TorresMagic™
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            Guess Diva's idea covers this.

      3. Lawrø
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        The best way to see if the model is good is to test it! So take https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/entry/2864/history for example... currently #18 in the HoF... as he hasn't been playing for too long he'd be underrated in your system at 21646... about 3000pts behind you! 😆

        Your model severely benefits people who have played along time, I'm sure there would be plenty of cases of distinctly average players beating amazing short term players

        1. TorresMagic™
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          He would get 23228 as 5 missing seasons + this season.

          1. Lawrø
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            Didn't realise you were including the latest season and he is having a bit of a stinker so far I suppose... still two top 100 finishes and a top 1k finish! 😀 Now I need to find someone who outscores him who is clearly worse

            1. Lawrø
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              First team I clicked on: https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/entry/64660/history

              Outscores him with 23483 and is clearly worse

              1. TorresMagic™
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                2000 is a low figure in most seasons. In 06/07 it's too high. Make it 1900 in that season.

                1. tm245
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                  Seasons vary pretty significantly. Here are my three decent ones:

                  2009/10 2,304 17,757
                  2012/13 2,249 4,610
                  2014/15 2,163 19,039

                  555 points more in 09/10, but 13k places lower than in 12/13.

                  1. TorresMagic™
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                    55 right? Seasons do vary for sure. My lowest scores are

                    2008/09 2,112 1,712
                    2012/13 2,122 47,918
                    2010/11 2,199 848

                    1. tm245
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                      Yes, typo with one extra 5! Incredible difference in rankings for just ten actual FPL points there.

                      1. TorresMagic™
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                        Yep, my worst season and my 3rd best one. Seems the Suarez one was my 2nd best rank wise.

                2. Lawrø
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                  Even so he still beats him 😉

                  That's #420 beating #18 in the current HoF... I like the way you're refining the model but it needs to be more drastic. It shouldn't benefit those that have played FPL since 06/07 that much in my opinion. As it's only the excess over 2000 that matters (most years) every extra season actually makes a huge difference. Say average of 200pts excess for arguments sake. That means for each extra season that amounts to the current difference between 5k and 500k! It should be that much of an advantage

                  1. TorresMagic™
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                    2000 was just a base figure but that should be adjusted each season to say whatever 100K was or whatever. 100K seems a rank you would get in a shocking season. Mark got nearly 200K in his so maybe 200K then.

                    1. tm245
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                      Interesting threshold. That base is what I was trying to get at below.

    5. Ógie
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      I would just like to see more filters in the HoF
      Like picking best/active years and more detailed stats about a manager in a given year like transfers made hits taken players used etc. etc.

      If managers picked there 3 worst years you could have a Hall of Shame i would have a chance of been the Villa Ronka of it 🙂

    6. Albrightondknight
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      I'd probably my just get 20,000 so 🙂

      1. Albrightondknight
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        Seriously I would have to get bumped up to 2000 for 4 of 10 years 🙁
        There are 3 * 1,700's in there - ouch. Obviously this is a brilliant idea TM

        1. TorresMagic™
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          😉

          1. Albrightondknight
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            I agree with comments above that 2,000 is a bit arbitrary. Best 5 years or something similar sounds good to me.

    7. tm245
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      Another way to do it would be to award value based on OR for each season, changing it for how many players there were in the overall game.

      Baseline for 2million players overall
      1st OR = 100 HOF pts
      2-10 = 90 pts
      11-99 = 80
      100-999 = 70
      1000-1999 = 60
      2000-2999 = 50
      3000-4999 = 40
      5000-9999 = 30
      10000-19999 = 20
      20000-99999 = 10

      Then multiply it by how many more players there are playing overall (so double it for a year in which there are 4M players overall).

      Haven't done the math in this, no idea if it works.

      1. TorresMagic™
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        I guess this is how HoF rating works in a way.

        (Your score / winning score) x 100 = HoF rating for the season etc.

        1. tm245
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          It isn't based on ranks? Aren't those the numbers listed for each year in the actual table?

          1. TorresMagic™
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            It's based on points. Having points in the table wouldn't have the same effect as seeing ranks.

            1. Lawrø
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              I can't wrap my head around that one... When we want to know how well someone is doing in FPL we ask them for their rank (which is implicitly a function of points anyway) instead of their total score for the season! 🙂

              I may have a stab at this some other time and completely ignore this score nonsense. Regardless I have to get some sleep - could debate this stuff forever but night chaps!

              1. TorresMagic™
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                Night Lawro 🙂

              2. tm245
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                Hopefully SmartyPants can rescue us.

    8. Diva
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      Does anyone have a list of scores from previous seasons? averages, active player averages, the FPL winner's score etc.

      1. tm245
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        FPL Discovery archives might be a good place to start.

        1. Diva
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          Probably good for the last few years at least, but we need something stretching back to 06-07 at least.

        1. tm245
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          Yours is better.

        2. TorresMagic™
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          15/16 was 2458 and 14/15 was 2470

          1. TorresMagic™
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            Mark got 2013/14 2,238 192,837 when winning score was 2634 so roughly 85%.

        3. Diva
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          Great links TM and, er, TM. So we now know what the top player scored in each season. That gives us a measure of how many points were required to be the best each season. So could a hall of fame work on the basis of the following formula:

          Minimum 5 seasons, then:
          (Player's score season a/winner's score season a)+(player score season b/winner's score season b)+(player's score season c/winner's score season c)+(player's score season d/winner's score season d)+(player's score season e/winner's score season e)/5

          I'm open to suggestions about whether it would be the best five seasons available to each player, or if you continue expanding the formula for every subsequent season (e.g. If you have 7 seasons, doing the calculation for seasons a through g, then dividing by 7).

          1. TorresMagic™
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            That could work. Would be a better measure of a "career" as it contains "longevity".

            1. Diva
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              Thanks. Just tried it with my own 5 best scores and it gives me a rough score of 90%. By way of comparison, Ville Rönkä is well ahead of me with a rough score of 93.4% (both percentages subject to rounding errors).

              1. TorresMagic™
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                Mark gets 94.07, I get 92.74 and VR gets 94.33 using the best values which might not be the 5 best ranks.

                1. Diva
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                  That seems pretty fair to me. It'd be interesting to see how Tom, Simon, Matt or one of the other previous winners fares under this system.

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                    Getting 100 in a season is a big score so they could easily beat VR.
                    Matt gets 94.18 and includes an 18K rank vs a 5K rank value wise.

                    1. TorresMagic™
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                      Jay at 93.23

                    2. Diva
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                      I think that's kind of fitting in a way though, because we tend to put winners and consistently very good players into Halls of Fame. Matt is a winner and clearly a good player, not just someone who got lucky one year.

                      1. TorresMagic™
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                        Using best 5 values over best 5 ranks

                        VR 94.33
                        Matt 94.18
                        Mark 94.07
                        Jay 93.23
                        TM 92.74

                      2. Diva
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                        Does best values = highest points scoring years or highest percentage of winner's score? On reflection, it should be the latter I think.

                      3. TorresMagic™
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                        Best value = score/ws

                      4. TorresMagic™
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                        Evs gets 94.23

                      5. Diva
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                        That's a great score.

                      6. TorresMagic™
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                        TL gets 94.26

                  2. Diva
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                    Just tried it with SpiderMatt's 5 best seasons. Interestingly, by my rough calculations (which are subject to rounding errors) he beats Ville Rönkä with a score of 94.2%, which seems kind of fitting given he won it one year.

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                      I used this for VR

                      2,225 2,372 0.9380
                      2,243 2,414 0.9292
                      2,248 2,472
                      2,534 2,634 0.9620
                      2,332 2,470 0.9441
                      2,319 2,458 0.9434
                      0.9434

                      1. Diva
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                        I used his 5 highest points years: 9-10,12-13,13-14,14-15 and 15-16, but it raises a good point that the five years selected should be the player's five highest percentages of winner's scores.

                      2. TorresMagic™
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                        You could miss the year they win etc and best ranks doesn't necessarily mean 5 highest values as the case for Matt.

                      3. Diva
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                        I'm thinking we need to forget about ranks, beyond how many points were required to become #1. The number of players and the rules have changed over the years.

                        My suggestion says over your five best years what was your average percentage of the winner's score? If someone was so awesome they won FPL five times in their career, they would score 100%. Clearly they would sail into any Hall of Fame.

                        Every point short of that winning score will start pulling you down. Ville Rönkä's quality shows through in the fact he may not have won it, but he consistently attains well in excess of 90% of the winner's score in each of his best five seasons. That's a fantastic achievement and one that has already effectively earned him a place in the FPL Hall of Fame.

                      4. TorresMagic™
                        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                        • Has Moderation Rights
                        • 16 Years
                        8 years, 8 months ago

                        I am using the best 5 %'s. Evs finished 5th so that figure helps him a lot.

              2. Qubit
                • 16 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                Using my own 5 best (still available from 2006) i get 91.3.

          2. tm245
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Interesting idea. Would the number one score be the better comparison than say the score for 1k, 10k, or some other baseline?

            I think best five years could be the way to go, though if somebody has more than five great seasons you would want to reward that somehow.

            1. Diva
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Given scores among active FPL players would probably produce a bell-shaped distribution, there could be an argument for basing the calculation on a score that captures 95 per cent of active players, but that would probably require a dataset larger than is available to us and this season, for example, would basically draw the measuring point at somewhere around the 100k mark, which seems too low to me.

          3. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Base score for missing years at 85% of winning score is something like this.

            W/S 0.85
            2268 1927.8
            2466 2096.1
            2264 1924.4
            2668 2267.8
            2372 2016.2
            2414 2051.9
            2472 2101.2
            2634 2238.9
            2470 2099.5
            2458 2089.3

            1. Qubit
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Base score of 85% is too high, should be much lower to avoid unfair skewing.

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 16 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                Most years 85% will give you a rank near 150K

                1. Qubit
                  • 16 Years
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  I think that should probably be nearer the 250k mark tbh, but that's just one persons opinion. 🙂

          4. Qubit
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            This has some merit and certainly would be interesting to see the outcome.

      2. tm245
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Check out this conversation on FISO two seasons ago. Similar questioning of the "downweight" for HOF:
        http://www.fiso.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=113861&start=690#p2712072

    9. tm245
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Great thread and discussion, can't wrap my head around it too much more. Looking forward to seeing what the changes could be.

    10. Werkself
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      My first season playing FPL there were 2 million fewer players than are playing this season. Statistically, finishing with a rank of 10,000 out of 2 million players is literally half the achievement of finishing with a rank of 10,000 out of 4 million players. A HOF ranking system that doesn't significantly incorporate this understanding into its formula is a mockery of a sham of a fraud of a fiction of deceitful alternative facts!

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        My 1st season included being a dead team for about 12 GWs. WC and Ronaldo and co got me a top 2K rank. I wouldn't use 2m and 4m as the real competition may be 100K and 200K this season.

        1. Werkself
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Understood. Any way you tweek it though my point still stands. The number of players matters.

    11. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      This has 1 upvote and gets hulked and FPLVirgins press secretary's Slouch87 motion has 73 upvotes and counting and is been buried :eyeroll:

    12. Bggz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      has to be OR not points, with a decreasing weighting over the past 5 seasons, something like this season 45% then 25, 15, 10, 5

      points are random based on changes in BPS, scoring, individual players, etc, but one thing that never changes is youre up against those around you.

      1. Diva
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Then you're back to a hall of form. You can only be as good as the winner, and the winner can only be as good as the rules and circumstances permit each year. I've suggest above a way that measures each player's ability as a percentage of the winner's performance over each player's best five years. It levels out the circumstances and avoids the problems of a growing player pool.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Adding 5 best rankings is a basic way also 🙂

          1. Diva
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Yes, simplicity is good. 🙂

        2. Bggz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          if it doesnt weight the latest season higher it risks become less relevant.
          as the number of teams increase and analysis, info, data, metrics and strategy sharing on fan sites such as this increases, the game gets harder.
          winning this year, means more than last year and thats been the case each year.

          1. Diva
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            You can only beat the players that were around you at the time you played. Football has evolved since Pele played, but no one would deny Pele a place in a Football Hall of Fame because of that.

            This is a continuation of an earlier discussion (see hot topic) around the merits of a Hall of Fame versus a Hall of Form. We have a Hall of Form (called the FFS Hall of Fame). What this conversation is trying to do is discuss how a career Hall of Fame could work.

            1. Bggz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              OK, so this is a different/additional ranking system alongside, rather than instead of, the current HoF. I like it, they should publish a Panini album with shiny stickers for the winner and HoF winner, and a best 11 each year.
              Either way, TMs suggestion based on points doesn’t work because point totals across seasons don’t correlate. I actually got the same total points two years in a row but my rank was ~50k places different.
              Ranking also has built in tie-break metrics (transfers made, etc).

              2011/12, 2,024, 124,571
              2012/13, 2,024, 172,532

          2. Qubit
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            I disagree with this, i think whilst in general its fair to say FPL is harder now than 10+ years ago i don't think it is easy to quantify exactly how much by and certainly not to be able to say how much from year to year, and so to attempt to do so will probably result in overly skewed results.

            The average of a players last 5 years finishes will provide a fairly fair measure of a players 'form'.

    13. Qubit
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Problem 1, this isn't a measure of career hof, its a measure of form, but that's merely a nomenclature issue i guess, so ignoring that lets have a look at it.

      For anyone still wondering i think they want to have some kind of way of adding in people who have missed years or are new. To me that misses the point, why should they be listed at all if they haven't played enough to be fairly rated? I know the real answer but the fact remains that trying to skew a system to include those that haven't earnt the right to be there will only end up making the system less accurate (unless you place the bar for making up the difference very low).

      Second would be points - there is fairly large variation in points scored from year to year, it really should be done on ranking only.

      So, here would be my suggestion, it should be done over average of last 5 years rank and that's it. Again the more you try and lay a points scoring system over the top of things the less accurate/true picture you will end up with.

      This way you don't need any other way of taking into account the difference in numbers playing from 10+ years ago as the numbers were fairly similar 5 years ago (and to be honest its mostly made up of vast numbers of people playing who don't have a clue and play 'casually' rather than people who know what they're doing, so FPL is not massively harder than it was 5 years ago).

      This would be the fairest measure of a fantasy managers 'form' so to speak. Personally i think you should have to have 5 full years before inclusion into the 'HOF' but if you wanted to include everyone with missing or less years then you could say that all missing years would be taken as something daft like 2000000.

      1. cheekumz
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        This 100%, any real solution has to only include people who deserve to be in a hall of fame, however you define that, you shouldn't be looking to skew a system to include others. Also, ranking is the only fair way to gauge a standing imo, as with new/ altered scoring mechanics, (wildcards, restructuring of bonus points etc), the variance from year to year makes one years points less relevant against anothers. If the volume of players skews results enough then weight against it somehow.

      2. Qubit
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Just to be clear, my suggestion was for a hall of 'form' - 5 most recent years. A hall of 'fame' could, as discussed above include a players 5 best finishes for example using a formula to calculate the rating, some good discussion up there.

    14. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Minimum 5 individual years participation in FPL (some may have played over 7 seasons but missed a few seasons in between), use the last 5 years of ranking, remove best and worst rank, calculate average rank from the remaining 3 years to give the HoF rank.

      Try it and see who wins out 😉

      1. Qubit
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Was just coming on here to say almost exactly this. Removing the best and worst should give a truer picture of a managers form.

    1. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Haha cringy song

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I get nothing but derision when I do this.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Must be the way you do it?

        1. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          That's what she said.

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Guess you won't make the Hall of Fame then 🙁

            1. FPL Virgin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Particularly as you need to be a cryptographer to understand how it works 🙁

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 16 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                Username change needed.

                1. FPL Virgin
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 8 months ago

                  Can't at this point. It's a "brand" now.

  3. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Heaton, Jakupovic
    Alonso, Valencia, Bertrand (Robertson, Wilson)
    Mane, Alli, Sigurdsson, King (Carroll)
    Aguero, Lukaku, Vardy

    How's my team looking? Considering King & Vardy to Sanchez & Deeney/Gabbiadini in the coming weeks..

    1. zotter
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      And Aguero to ibra I assume ?

  4. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Yoga Pants (Leggings)

    Should they be banned?

    Some people think they should

    1. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I like it when my girlfriend sports them at home, not so mich in public

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        The cheap almost see through ones are the worse ones they should be banned...... The sights I have seen have been quite disturbing

    2. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Some says its the best thing made since sliced bread

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Without a doubt but I still think that a good pair of tight jeans wins hands down every time

    3. 1966 was a great year for E…
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      My policy on this would be sexist, ageist and sizeist, so I'm not going to comment.

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I get where you are coming from but they do sell them in all sizes and there is no age restriction when buying them

    4. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Only on fatties

      1. Champ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        *memo to self: out loud is different to thinking privately*

        1. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          😆

  5. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Cheers Jonty, very informative.

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Superb article. One of his best.

      1. George Sillett
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        50 and counting.

        1. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Not sure who is stalking who 😆

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            I'm only the PR department.

            1. Syd.
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Its a dirty job but suppose somebody has to do it

              Hope you aren't just doing for the love of the job

        2. FPL Virgin
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Slouchy, you're my hero! 😀

          1. George Sillett
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Still early days . Going for the ton up.

            1. FPL Virgin
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Stick to "The Man", Slouch! They will have to listen up there in their ivory towers soon! 🙂

          2. Numb
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            What night is the ScoutCast on?

            1. Syd.
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              This.....

              Will be giving my Pilates class up to watch the Scoutcast

  6. Jimbo-Jones
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Thinking of holding for 2FT for DGW... any pressing issues?

    Heaton (TOT)
    Walker (bur) Alonso (CRY) Valencia (WBA)
    Mané (EVE) Coutinho (EVE) Siggy (MID) Alli (bur)
    Aguero (ars) Llorente (MID) Lukaku (liv)

    Pickford, Amat, Browning, Davies

    Not too happy about double Liverpool, but their fixtures after this are absolutely insane and Cout is still involved in everything.

    1FT, 0.0 itb

    1. zotter
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      You seem happy about double pool !?! I am less happy see below. As I don't have alli!!

      1. Jimbo-Jones
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Liverpool fixtures:

        EVE
        BOU
        sto
        wba
        CRY
        wat
        SOU
        wha
        MID

        Feel like if Cout starts firing he'll be indispensable

        1. Champ
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Wow. That is a sweet run in to be sure...

        2. Pazdannavaro
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Sadly they are playing well against top6 teams.

    2. Sebastes
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Looks good imo

  7. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    I have a HOF of 5369

    Pretty crap ehh

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Last two numbers says otherwise

      1. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        68 is always much better

  8. 1966 was a great year for E…
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Just listening to the Guardian Football Weekly podcast. James Richardson knows that prices change at 1.20am. Those after-work drinks with Mark must just fly by 😀

    He got Gibson in for Coleman, incidentally.

    1. Bellerinmondo
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      hmm interesting, been considering this as have 2FT so have to use one but would rather wait for a cheaper boro def - chambers due back soon?

    2. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      It's actually more like 1:10 or 1:15 🙂
      Seriously though 1:20 is too late. If not on GM time you can decide last minute.

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      After 2am now.

  9. zotter
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    How am I looking.

    Nil itb. No ft as did Coleman to Valencia

    Grant. (Foster)
    Holebas. Alonso. Valencia. (Brunt. Amat)
    Coutinho. Mane c. Siggy. Fletcher. (Antonio)
    Aguero. Lukaku. Costa

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Graveless
      And your team is very good

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Might take a hit for Antonio to tadic and play him ahead of Fletc

        1. zotter
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Can't afford by 0.1

          1. Phil Dagger ⭐
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Probs Redmond or JWP then .

            1. zotter
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              I will wildcard before the saints doubles

    2. Jimbo-Jones
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Maybe Antonio to Son?
      You need some Spurs, and it's not really a hit because Fletcher is getting you nothing at Utd.

      1. Sebastes
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I was also thinking Son could be worth a punt

    3. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Yep, gtg

  10. Kimmich
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Grant
    Walker - Yoshida - Valencia
    Sanchez - Alli - Eriksen - Sigurdsson
    Lukaku - Costa - Carroll

    Jakupovic - Baines - Friend - de Roon.

    0.6itb (-4 taken this week), Who to captain this week? And would you rather play Yoshida or Baines?

    1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I'm playing Cedric over Baines. Costa if fit; maybe Siggy or Sanchez

  11. Legomane
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Best Coleman transfer?
    (4.6 leaves enough ITB for Mané > Sanchez next week).
    Or save and play Pieters (lei).
    1FT 0.8 ITB

    Pickford
    Alonso Valencia Pieters
    Mane Alli Eriksen Sigurdsson
    Aguero Lukaku Llorente

    (Heaton TCarroll ASmith *Coleman)

    Thoughts appreciated- Cheers 🙂

    1. Gamoriola of the Galaxy (Eu…
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Yoshida has a better fixture than Pieters.

      1. Legomane
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        He sure does. Nice couple of fixtures to be fair.

    2. Sebastes
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      What are your thoughts for gw34? Could get Fabio in for Coleman if you'd play him over pieters. Or get a watford def in. Their short term fixtures look very good

      1. Legomane
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Original thought was :

        30: Aguero Coleman > Vardy Cedric
        31: Siggy > Sanchez. 32: Vardy Mane > Aguero Sané

        Works really nicely with fixtures. Couple of hits though...

  12. Forza Papac
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Son or Pedro?

    Have Costa and no Spurs cover

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Really ????
      Pedro simple

    2. Je suis le chat
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Pedro.

  13. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    @CAPO DI TUTTI CAPI

    I was reading thru the treads and i seen you make case for Valencia been a ''trap''
    Did you ever consider that Walker might be a trap and why?

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      What's your grav buddy?

      1. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Antarctic explorer and fellow Kerry man Tom Crean
        An Unsung Irish Hero

        1. Champ
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Good for you. I believe kerry is a beautiful part of ireland. Might get there some day!

          1. Ógie
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Indeed the most beautiful

  14. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    When is Rose expected back?

    1. makaveli123
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Early April if the initial reports are right, but a bit worrying that we don't know anything more by now.

  15. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    So Josh King didn't get a kick of the ball against the mighty GAWA 🙂

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Goal incoming vs Saints

    2. makaveli123
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Norway are so crap. I lost the interest after Carew retired

  16. DAN DARE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    This week's pressers. Probably the most eagerly anticipated pressers in the history of pressers. The suspense is killing me

    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      No different from any other week

      1. DAN DARE
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Remind me not to invite you to my presser party

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Especially for Spurs.

  17. Sebastes
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Which combo would you go with gw31-34?

    a) Firmino, Alli, Siggy
    b) Sanchez, Siggy, JWP
    c) Sanchez, Alli, JWP (-4)

    1. zotter
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      C

    3. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      A but I'd like Sanchez

  18. Phil Dagger ⭐
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    GW 30 is the Grand GW

    - FFS Cup
    - Frequent Posters Cup
    - Norway Fantasy (League,.H2H , LMS)

    Crucial time

    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Is the Frequent Posters Cup open for entry yet?

        1. Syd.
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Cheers... Han't realised that you just had to post your id to enter

          1. Phil Dagger ⭐
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Posting is what we frequent posters do 😉

  19. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Hazard said he will be fit for game against palace, sorry if its old news

    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Might not risk him given they play City a few days later

    2. Numb
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Never doubted it.

  20. Jazz!
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Poch better give me some solid Rose news. Either he's fit now, or he's had a set back and will be out till the end of April.

    1. makaveli123
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Do you get paid for using caps lock?

      1. Bruno Bruno!!
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        no lol

        1. Numb
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          LOL should be in caps as it's an acronym

  21. Mick J
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Coleman to

    A) Betrand or
    B) Cédric?

    I know that Bertrand has gotten more assists lately, but is his assist potential really that much ($0.6) higher?

    1. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I personally don't fancy Soton defence without VVD.

      1. Mick J
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Good point! Thanks for the comment!

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I prefer Bertrand of the 2! Very good form, looked good for England too

      1. Mick J
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks for the comment! I haven’t watched many Southampton games lately. How is Cédric looking?

  22. Jazz!
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Gentlemen.

    A) Mane + Siggy
    B) Firmino + Eriksen

    Basically just exploring whether Mane is worth the extra £1.0mill over Firmino. Firmino's stats may be better (haven't checked) but he is so much more wasteful ...

    1. Sebastes
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      B for me, even more so if it's the only Spurs cover

    2. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      A for me although you need a spurs mid too with them.if you cant then B

    3. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      B but it's hard to go without Siggy

    4. Numb
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      B all day long

    5. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      B. And Siggy another way 🙂

    6. Je suis le chat
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Maybe get Milner and save even more money.

    7. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Thank you boys. Also have Alli but that shouldn't affect matters imo.

  23. leocarter27
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Would bringing in Ibra for gw 31 for a -4 hit be worth it?

    1. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Not for me

  24. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Evening all!

    Final check. Got a big head2head I need to win this GW, what you experts think?

    A. Coleman > Valencia (Play Capoue)

    B. Antonio > Pedro / Tadic (Play Evans/Pieters)

    C. Both for -4 but could be costly in the head2head.

    Heaton (Jaku)
    Walker Alonso *Coleman* (Pieters Evans)
    Siggy J. King Mane *Antonio* (Capoue)
    Costa Aguero Lukaku

    Thanks as always 🙂

    1. Phil Dagger ⭐
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I would do C...or if one I would do B with Tadic

      1. Phil Dagger ⭐
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        + pieters

        1. RAFA THE GAFFA
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Thanks mate 🙂 it's a tough one for me

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Any other votes? Doing my head in this 🙂

  25. Deulofail
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Captain preference please?

    A) Siggy (MID)
    B) Mane (EVE)
    C) Aguero (ars)
    D) Defoe (wat)

    For me, I'm currently thinking ACBD. But I've Captained Mane 7 times already, and can be easily persuaded.

    1. THFC4LIFE
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      D

      1. Deulofail
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I dont mind taking a risk, but that's reflected in my terrible captain average of about 11 or 12 (after doubling). What makes you say Defoe?

        1. THFC4LIFE
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Just scored for England and I don't rate that Watford defence. All depends if ur playing catch up or not the safe option would be Mane

    2. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Defoe for me.

    3. leocarter27
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I'm on A atm just think Siggy could score this week

    4. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      A or B

    5. I Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      C

  26. THFC4LIFE
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    What are Son owners gonna do with him? He blanked last gw and he's gonna be travelling a long way from where ever he is playing but he's playing OOP and he's cheap as chips duno what to do lads?!

    1. Deulofail
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      If I owned I'd keep for now

    2. Je suis le chat
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Worried owner. I'll just play him and hope. Might shift to JWP in a bit.

  27. Henning
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Hi all.

    Foster Jakupovic

    Valencia McAuley Alonso Walker Coleman

    Carroll Firmino Mane Antonio Sigurdsson

    Lukaku Aguero Llorente

    Need some advice what i should do with this team.
    Should i use my wildcard or keep it for dgw?

    1. InSaneMan-e
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Dont need to use WC
      Sort out Coleman and Antonio for this week

  28. Bruno Bruno!!
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    ill be so annoyed if i got walker in after tomorrows internationals and then rose is confirmed fit for gw30

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      No need to worry - England (senior squad) have no more matches this week.

    2. ChampChomp
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Then wait until Friday