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The search for value, in particular among defenders, was a central focus of this week’s discussions, which also covered the prospects of La Liga stars in the Premier League and marked the premature retirement of one the Fantasy Football’s most successful Spaniards.

Our community writers also focus on player pricing, top tips for success in Fantasy Premier League’s draft game as well as ownership trends.

Bonus magnets in the Sky Sports game are among the topics covered in our Members table round-up and we finish off with a look at the latest community tournaments available.

The Community Articles

With more than 700,000 now signed up to the Fantasy Premier League, the ownership trends have been fluctuating markedly since its launch. Milvus’ community article on ownership trends takes a key look at the significant early movement.

One group of players that are seeing significant activity are premium defenders, including wing-backs that offer potential returns at both ends. Whether this group of players offer better value than mid-price midfielders is the subject of FPL Virgin’s debut community article.

Positively priced punts are the focus of The Boose’s latest piece, as he considers those who offer considerable bang for their buck from FPL’s player list.

Elsewhere, Spreadsheet has turned to his abacus to assess whether misfiring attackers one season are able to dramatically improve their goal conversion rate over their next campaign. This follows on from Prokoptas’ article earlier this month on the Plexiglas Principle, which seeks to find out if underperforming players can strengthen their returns over time.

To help those playing FPL’s draft game, our resident expert Pav A Nice Day dropped by to offer his guidance on constructing the perfect player list for the forthcoming draft nights.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

The community articles section’s focus on rearguard options spilled out into our Hot Topics with That Posh Bloke casting his monocled eye over some spiffing chaps in defence.

Bournemouth defenders have piqued the interest of Miguel Sanchez, who canvassed views on whether centre back Nathan Ake or full back Charlie Daniels are the best options from the Cherries backline. While Lucy made a triumphant return to offer guidance on the best Southampton defenders to invest in, as part of her look at Saints assets.

Newcastle and Swansea’s kindly priced defenders are on Teddy’s radar, after his research found that the two sides rotate strongly for those who track the fixtures and are looking to save funds in defence.

There was further consideration of defensive rotation in our discussion of the best goalkeeper strategy.

Pre-season friendlies offer Fantasy managers the perfect opportunity to gather vital clues on whether their picks will be sure starters and offer returns.

However, so far the 19.6% of FPL managers who own Paul Pogba been left disappointed by his performances, according to our discussion on lessons learned from the summer fixtures played so far.

The dream of a more attacking role for the Frenchman is still yet to be realised.

In contrast, Pogba’s team-mate Henrikh Mkhitaryan has impressed, with a goal and an assist midweek during the Red Devil’s US tour. We wondered why, given his advanced role and strong summer form, he is still only in 4.3% of FPL squads.

Crystal Palace kicked off their summer preparations with a 2-0 loss to Liverpool to dent interest in their assets. But with a strong opening set of fixtures Andy8wsm ponders whether their newly appointed captain Jason Puncheon may at last turn his enticing underlying statistics into Fantasy points. As followers of the Scoutcast last season will know, that is an issue I may be reluctant to revisit for a second successive campaign.

At least the 5.0 priced Eagles midfielder is cheap, even if he doesn’t offer good value based on his history. This difference between a player’s price and their real value is an issue that Deulofail addresses in his latest discussion.

The price tag of Chelsea’s incoming new recruit, Alvaro Morata, was eagerly awaited this week. But, as Ownership Tactic asks, can the Real Madrid striker do it on a cold windy night in Stoke? He added to this discussion with a roll call of those who have made a successful transition from La Liga to the Premier League, as well as those who failed to make the grade.

If Morata, who is also the subject of this discussion by Prokoptas,  gets off to a good start, team plans may need to change to accommodate him. This is where a flexible FPL friend can help out, says our Hot Topic on players that can easily be jettisoned to make way for an early season bandwagon.

One such bandwagon in FPL’s past is Michu, who scored an incredible 18 Premier League goals for Swansea in the 2012/13 season and this week sadly announced his retirement through injury. Wild Rover was among those who dropped by to pay their respects to the Spaniard.

Bargain hunters were once again out in full force this week as they rummaged through the player list in search of gems. Aaron Ramsey, Arsenal’s 7.0 valued midfielder who has scored once and assisted another goal in pre-season, is among those garnering interest. But Drip Doctor warns that patience may be needed with the Welshman, who he doubts will be able to produce frequent attacking points.

Chelsea’s development squad is proving an attractive source of budget midfielders. New Watford signing Nathan Chalaboah and Reuben Loftus Cheek – who is on loan at Crystal Palace – have attracted the attention of Scotty B, based on the promise of more game time at their new clubs. Both are priced at 4.5 but AceKn1ght urges Fantasy managers to make sure they also consider the potential of midfielders priced at 5.0.

Southampton are proving another prime route for those in search of value, with the south coast outfit figuring prominently in Pukka-Geoff’s discussion on teams to double, or even triple up, on.

Meanwhile, value from third strikers is the subject of Pele Alli’s latest Hot Topic, with Triggerlips adding to the debate by asking whether Newcastle forward Dwight Gayle deserves to be in our frontlines.

Sales shoppers are steering clear of Liverpool this season with their stars of 2016/17, including Philippe Coutinho, suffering value hikes. Given that the Reds look set to rotate around Champions League games, we asked whether their assets may be best avoided. The no-Liverpool player strategy of last year’s FPL winner and Everton fan Ben Crabtree certainly offers a powerful case for adopting this potentially risky tactic.

123thro is looking to go further than Ben by basing his team around avoiding players from last year’s top six sides and asked for your tips of other assets to consider.

Finally, Athletico Timbo asked the community to dust off their crystal balls and predict who will be next season’s Fantasy hits and misses.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members Tables

Spreadsheet has created a table entitled, ‘should have scored more’, in support of his community article on misfiring attackers’ potential for improvement.

For those playing Sky Fantasy Football Disable has made a table dedicated to players who have dominated the game’s bonus point allocation.

Elsewhere, Mynjdusta has constructed two tables looking at the best defender prospects and goalkeepers with impressive underlying statistics.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

PDM is looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Finally, a reminder that Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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  1. Babit1967
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Courtois

    Lindelof Trippier Bellerin

    Ramsey KDB Coutinho RLC Mkhi

    Kane Morata

    Subs Myhill Fletcher Rangel Crainie

    1. bradplum
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Wow what a team wd

      1. Babit1967
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Cheers bud, toying with it for a while but im now happy with this.

      2. The Man Pastore
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        c'mon...

    2. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Get Kompany Bellerin isn't nailed

      1. Babit1967
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        good shout, kompany's great for goals also.

  2. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Look at the options an Arsenal player has in possession. There are blue shirts blocking every pass, they can do very little. They try switching the play, but blue shirts soon shift over, the transition is quick. Tactically fascinating. Arsenal have been neutered.

    1. TokyoRed 東京赤
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      This is a very good Chelsea side so it is.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Yep, I've been ignoring them a bit in my drafts because of their prices. But Conte is brilliant.

        1. Ser Davos
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          Willian/Fabs aside, I have too

    2. Slam
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      They do the basics right and when a team does the basics as effectively as Chelsea do, they are unstoppable.

      Pleasure to watch

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        This. Nothing too special, just a great team.

    3. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Yeah nothing Arsenal can do. Maybe if Ramsey finshed those chances too late now

    4. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Conte is easily the best defensive manager in the world. His Italy and Juventus teams also always seemed impenetrable.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Yep, but what surprises me is how potent they are in attack too. The transitions are so quick because of the formation and tactics.

  3. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Who is the best 6m defender in your opinion?

    1. PvA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      RLC

    2. Syd.
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Kompany

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Kompany

    4. TokyoRed 東京赤
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Kompany

    5. Slam
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Bailly

    6. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Kompany

    7. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Kolasinac

  4. AA33
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Why was Pedro subbed off after 29'?

    1. willl
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Ospina murdered him.

    2. Syd.
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Didn't duck quick anough

    3. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Attacked Ospina's fist and elbow with his face

  5. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Bailly or Kompany?

    1. Aston-villain
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Bailly.
      Asess Man City defensive form in first few games.

      1. Waxys
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        He doesn't score or assist though not worth 6 imo

        1. Aston-villain
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          Yeh i wouldnt have him. Just answering the q as it was asked.

    2. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Kolasinac

    3. TokyoRed 東京赤
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Kompany for me, for the goal threat (although I don't expect him to keep up his ratio from the end of last season...)

  6. Aston-villain
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Jesus or Aguero ???

    1. Bambi
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Either, will expect neither to play in excess of 2500 mins over the season but them both boast very high goals per min averages

    2. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      KDB 🙂

      1. Aston-villain
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Kdb and jesus is likely for me.

        1. Waxys
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          Can you afford that?

          1. Aston-villain
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 15 days ago

            Yeh, will have to go without sanchez tho and maybe benteke as a 3rd striker....

          2. Dr. Agabuse
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 15 days ago

            no it's not affordable.

    3. UnitedFan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Aguero

  7. Bambi
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    How's this for a 352?

    My first 352 attempt, care to rate my team?

    begovic Eliot
    Bailly Trippier Cedric Lowton 4.0
    KDB Coutinho Willian Zaha Stanislas
    Kane Jesus 4.5

    1. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Jesus to Laca, and risky going without Lukaku.

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Your 4th def wants to play for Brighton - best rotation for Cedric.

  8. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Sturridge coming on.

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Strurridge coming off injured warming up.

      1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Nice attempt Waxys.

        1. Waxys
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          It was a joke

          1. willl
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 15 days ago

            ha

  9. Positive vibes
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Please choose:

    A. Laca, KdB, Willian
    B. Morata, Sane, Coutinho
    C. Others, please mention

    Now I'm stick with A, but lil bit worried looking Laca in pre season.

    My other players is Lukalu, Gayle, Alli, Mkhitaryan and Tom Carroll.

    Thx you.

    1. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Still A

  10. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    @Individual

    Do you want to remove the Wordpress banner on your site mate?

    1. The Wise Owl
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      ?

      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Are you the other guy who runs it?

        1. The Wise Owl
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          I don't even know what you're on about

          1. Aston-villain
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 15 days ago

            Lol what a convo

  11. Aston-villain
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Whats with the tend towards 3-5-2.....with all these attacking options about?
    Is it cos a good attack is seen as too expensive or am i missing something?

    1. The Wise Owl
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      I'm going 3-4-3

    2. Individual
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      3-5-2 has been killed for now by no 4.5 playing striker v a multitude of 4.5 playing mids. One to watch out for later in the season

    3. Aston-villain
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Yeh....il stick to what i know..lol

    4. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Lot of great value in midfield c 9.5m-7m.

  12. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Will Cedric even start the season at this stage?

    Still not back training after the Confederations Cup.

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      He bloody better

  13. FPL Mentor
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    A or B

    A.
    Alonso
    Shelvey
    Willian
    Rashford

    B.
    Mee
    Pogba
    Sterling
    Perez
    + 1.0m in the bank

  14. Obi-1 Kenobi-0
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Is Son going to be fit for the start of the season? Had a google but couldn't find anything pertinent.

    1. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Nope

  15. The Cherry Picker
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    A. Firmino and Sane
    B. Defoe and Salah

    Thanks

    1. MB10
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Hernandez and Coutinho

      1. Smoky Johnson
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        This^

  16. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Coutinho's insight on his goal https://twitter.com/Phil_Coutinho/status/110120987621736448

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Nearly as good as Rooney's tweets

      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Hi rio do u want picking up in the morning pal

  17. Jake.l_8
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Loftus-Cheek or Tom Carroll?

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      TCarroll!

    2. balint84
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      tom

    3. HurriKane
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      TC

  18. FPL Mentor
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    RMT

    De Gea
    Cedric Lindelof Trippier
    Coutinho Pogba Sterling Zaha
    Aguero Kane (C) Perez

    (Elliot, R.L-C, Mee, Rangel)

    Thoughts?

  19. okan58
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Willian and Kane or Sane and Lacazette?

    1. FPL Mentor
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      A

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Absolutely W & K!

    3. UnitedFan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      First option.

    4. HurriKane
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      A

    5. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      A

  20. fedolefan
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Whom do West Ham rotate well with? Their keepers usually get a lot of shots to save.

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Yeah very good I'm very happy with Joe Hart's pricing incredible value I couldn't be happier

      1. HurriKane
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        better option than foster at 4.5m ?

        1. Waxys
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          Wayyyy better he's amazing value sure to rise up in price so fast

      2. fedolefan
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Problem is I don't know the West Ham second choice keeper or a keeper that rotates well. There's always room for more research.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          Adrián and Hart. Adrián is a better keeper.

          WHM || WAT; WBA rotation partners.

          1. fedolefan
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 15 days ago

            Thank you Sir. Hart and Gomes will be good.

    2. *sigh*
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Joe Hart doesn't do saves

  21. Flynny
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    How is this lot looking folks?

    Foster elliot
    Trippier lindelof Cedric dunk mee
    Kdb pogba willian Ramsey Carroll
    Kane lukaku Rodriguez

    Thanks

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      We back to KDB over Sane Flynny? Not much te go on tbh but I did like both Willian's & Rambo's 'performances' just now.

      1. Flynny
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Got a gut feeling on Kdb mate

        More nailed

        And more integral to the Team!

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          At LW Sane looks okay because only Sterling can really challenge and Sane looks a better player. Question is can he become a 5.5/6.0ppg player, up from a 4? If he can close that gap with KDB and we can use that 1.5 effectively... 😆

          1. Flynny
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 15 days ago

            That we just won't know netley mate....

            It's touch and go the better one is...you know me..ill 0rob flip back to sane!

            Also wondering re Cedric and if he will start first games following confederations

            Could easily do Cedric and lindy to bertie and daniels!

            1. Netley Lucas
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 15 days ago

              Lucy the Saints fan reckons Cedric is better value than Bertie as he'll step-up in class. He kind of needs to as he's way less value than Bertie on last season's form.

  22. waldofeen
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Which team is better?
    Foster (Begovic)
    Ake Cedric Mcauley (Mee rangel)
    Willian Coutinho Pogba Sane(RLC)
    Kane Lukaku Gayle
    Or
    Foster (Elliot)
    Morgan Lascelles Cedric(Mee Rangel)
    Puncheon Coutinho Pogba Sane(RLC)
    Kane Lukaku Morata

    All suggestions welcome.

  23. Syd.
    • 17 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Any Cresswell Love?

    1. Essem
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Yes.

  24. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    I think West Ham might suprise some people defensively this season. Fonte getting a chance to gel with Zabaletta and Ogbonna could be ok

  25. Simon69
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    I know they are pricey but surely one must consider a Chelsea defender after this display?

    1. UnitedFan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Weak Arsenal team, no?

    2. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Yes, but also tasty midfield and Morata - can only have three!

  26. Thoughtopsy
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    anyone got a draft league I can join?

  27. red forever
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Willian & Kane

    Alli & morata

    Same price, but which one?

    1. Rex Lapis
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Willian Kane

    2. UnitedFan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      First pair

    3. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Alli presents insane value but still A

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        A = known and proven

  28. Dasher0303
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Begovic or Fabianski or Foster as keeper with Elliot as second keeper??

    Elliot pretty much nailed if Newcastle don't sign a keeper and even he will be backup according to Rafa comments.

    Begovic and Fabs rotate with Elliot well, but Foster doesn't,but has a very good run of fixtures, although West Brom aren't great defensively these days, especially with the lack of depth and ageing of defence.

    1. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Elliot and Hart is my combo

      1. Dasher0303
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Out of the ones I said, which one??

        1. Waxys
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          Elliot and Hart is what I recommend. The others don't rotate as well

          1. Andy_Social
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 15 days ago

            Bego - Bou have strengthened in defence

  29. sentz05
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    RMT

    Hart Elliott

    Cedric Dawson Trippier Lindelof Rangel

    Redmond Ramsey Willian Zaha Caroll

    Kane Jesus Lukaku

  30. Swanee11
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Going off the beaten path with a 5-2-3. What do you think?

    Foster
    Trippier Alonso Kolasinac Lindelof Cedric
    Zaha Willian
    Kane Lukaku Laca

    Fabianksi RLC Carroll Mcarthur

    1. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Missing city attack.

    2. Waxys
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      4/10 No Man City and Liverpool no good

    3. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      I also find it funny how you have tripled up Crystal Palace in midfield.

      1. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        First person I've seen after me who's done that. Very smart tactic!

      2. Swanee11
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Planning on using a wildcard at the int break.Just want to see the rotation of pool and city before I pick a couple.