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The search for value, in particular among defenders, was a central focus of this week’s discussions, which also covered the prospects of La Liga stars in the Premier League and marked the premature retirement of one the Fantasy Football’s most successful Spaniards.

Our community writers also focus on player pricing, top tips for success in Fantasy Premier League’s draft game as well as ownership trends.

Bonus magnets in the Sky Sports game are among the topics covered in our Members table round-up and we finish off with a look at the latest community tournaments available.

The Community Articles

With more than 700,000 now signed up to the Fantasy Premier League, the ownership trends have been fluctuating markedly since its launch. Milvus’ community article on ownership trends takes a key look at the significant early movement.

One group of players that are seeing significant activity are premium defenders, including wing-backs that offer potential returns at both ends. Whether this group of players offer better value than mid-price midfielders is the subject of FPL Virgin’s debut community article.

Positively priced punts are the focus of The Boose’s latest piece, as he considers those who offer considerable bang for their buck from FPL’s player list.

Elsewhere, Spreadsheet has turned to his abacus to assess whether misfiring attackers one season are able to dramatically improve their goal conversion rate over their next campaign. This follows on from Prokoptas’ article earlier this month on the Plexiglas Principle, which seeks to find out if underperforming players can strengthen their returns over time.

To help those playing FPL’s draft game, our resident expert Pav A Nice Day dropped by to offer his guidance on constructing the perfect player list for the forthcoming draft nights.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

The community articles section’s focus on rearguard options spilled out into our Hot Topics with That Posh Bloke casting his monocled eye over some spiffing chaps in defence.

Bournemouth defenders have piqued the interest of Miguel Sanchez, who canvassed views on whether centre back Nathan Ake or full back Charlie Daniels are the best options from the Cherries backline. While Lucy made a triumphant return to offer guidance on the best Southampton defenders to invest in, as part of her look at Saints assets.

Newcastle and Swansea’s kindly priced defenders are on Teddy’s radar, after his research found that the two sides rotate strongly for those who track the fixtures and are looking to save funds in defence.

There was further consideration of defensive rotation in our discussion of the best goalkeeper strategy.

Pre-season friendlies offer Fantasy managers the perfect opportunity to gather vital clues on whether their picks will be sure starters and offer returns.

However, so far the 19.6% of FPL managers who own Paul Pogba been left disappointed by his performances, according to our discussion on lessons learned from the summer fixtures played so far.

The dream of a more attacking role for the Frenchman is still yet to be realised.

In contrast, Pogba’s team-mate Henrikh Mkhitaryan has impressed, with a goal and an assist midweek during the Red Devil’s US tour. We wondered why, given his advanced role and strong summer form, he is still only in 4.3% of FPL squads.

Crystal Palace kicked off their summer preparations with a 2-0 loss to Liverpool to dent interest in their assets. But with a strong opening set of fixtures Andy8wsm ponders whether their newly appointed captain Jason Puncheon may at last turn his enticing underlying statistics into Fantasy points. As followers of the Scoutcast last season will know, that is an issue I may be reluctant to revisit for a second successive campaign.

At least the 5.0 priced Eagles midfielder is cheap, even if he doesn’t offer good value based on his history. This difference between a player’s price and their real value is an issue that Deulofail addresses in his latest discussion.

The price tag of Chelsea’s incoming new recruit, Alvaro Morata, was eagerly awaited this week. But, as Ownership Tactic asks, can the Real Madrid striker do it on a cold windy night in Stoke? He added to this discussion with a roll call of those who have made a successful transition from La Liga to the Premier League, as well as those who failed to make the grade.

If Morata, who is also the subject of this discussion by Prokoptas,  gets off to a good start, team plans may need to change to accommodate him. This is where a flexible FPL friend can help out, says our Hot Topic on players that can easily be jettisoned to make way for an early season bandwagon.

One such bandwagon in FPL’s past is Michu, who scored an incredible 18 Premier League goals for Swansea in the 2012/13 season and this week sadly announced his retirement through injury. Wild Rover was among those who dropped by to pay their respects to the Spaniard.

Bargain hunters were once again out in full force this week as they rummaged through the player list in search of gems. Aaron Ramsey, Arsenal’s 7.0 valued midfielder who has scored once and assisted another goal in pre-season, is among those garnering interest. But Drip Doctor warns that patience may be needed with the Welshman, who he doubts will be able to produce frequent attacking points.

Chelsea’s development squad is proving an attractive source of budget midfielders. New Watford signing Nathan Chalaboah and Reuben Loftus Cheek – who is on loan at Crystal Palace – have attracted the attention of Scotty B, based on the promise of more game time at their new clubs. Both are priced at 4.5 but AceKn1ght urges Fantasy managers to make sure they also consider the potential of midfielders priced at 5.0.

Southampton are proving another prime route for those in search of value, with the south coast outfit figuring prominently in Pukka-Geoff’s discussion on teams to double, or even triple up, on.

Meanwhile, value from third strikers is the subject of Pele Alli’s latest Hot Topic, with Triggerlips adding to the debate by asking whether Newcastle forward Dwight Gayle deserves to be in our frontlines.

Sales shoppers are steering clear of Liverpool this season with their stars of 2016/17, including Philippe Coutinho, suffering value hikes. Given that the Reds look set to rotate around Champions League games, we asked whether their assets may be best avoided. The no-Liverpool player strategy of last year’s FPL winner and Everton fan Ben Crabtree certainly offers a powerful case for adopting this potentially risky tactic.

123thro is looking to go further than Ben by basing his team around avoiding players from last year’s top six sides and asked for your tips of other assets to consider.

Finally, Athletico Timbo asked the community to dust off their crystal balls and predict who will be next season’s Fantasy hits and misses.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members Tables

Spreadsheet has created a table entitled, ‘should have scored more’, in support of his community article on misfiring attackers’ potential for improvement.

For those playing Sky Fantasy Football Disable has made a table dedicated to players who have dominated the game’s bonus point allocation.

Elsewhere, Mynjdusta has constructed two tables looking at the best defender prospects and goalkeepers with impressive underlying statistics.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

PDM is looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Finally, a reminder that Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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  1. Babit1967
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Courtois

    Lindelof Trippier Bellerin

    Ramsey KDB Coutinho RLC Mkhi

    Kane Morata

    Subs Myhill Fletcher Rangel Crainie

    1. bradplum
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Wow what a team wd

      1. Babit1967
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Cheers bud, toying with it for a while but im now happy with this.

      2. The Man Pastore
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        c'mon...

    2. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Get Kompany Bellerin isn't nailed

      1. Babit1967
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        good shout, kompany's great for goals also.

  2. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Look at the options an Arsenal player has in possession. There are blue shirts blocking every pass, they can do very little. They try switching the play, but blue shirts soon shift over, the transition is quick. Tactically fascinating. Arsenal have been neutered.

    1. TokyoRed 東京赤
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      This is a very good Chelsea side so it is.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Yep, I've been ignoring them a bit in my drafts because of their prices. But Conte is brilliant.

        1. Ser Davos
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Willian/Fabs aside, I have too

    2. Slam
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      They do the basics right and when a team does the basics as effectively as Chelsea do, they are unstoppable.

      Pleasure to watch

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        This. Nothing too special, just a great team.

    3. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah nothing Arsenal can do. Maybe if Ramsey finshed those chances too late now

    4. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Conte is easily the best defensive manager in the world. His Italy and Juventus teams also always seemed impenetrable.

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Yep, but what surprises me is how potent they are in attack too. The transitions are so quick because of the formation and tactics.

  3. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 8 months ago

    Who is the best 6m defender in your opinion?

    1. PvA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      RLC

    2. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Kompany

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Kompany

    4. TokyoRed 東京赤
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Kompany

    5. Slam
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Bailly

    6. Waxys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Kompany

    7. Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Kolasinac

  4. AA33
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Why was Pedro subbed off after 29'?

      1. willl
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Ospina murdered him.

      2. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Didn't duck quick anough

      3. Somalion
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Attacked Ospina's fist and elbow with his face

    • FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Bailly or Kompany?

      1. Aston-villain
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Bailly.
        Asess Man City defensive form in first few games.

        1. Waxys
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          He doesn't score or assist though not worth 6 imo

          1. Aston-villain
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Yeh i wouldnt have him. Just answering the q as it was asked.

      2. Dasher0303
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Kolasinac

      3. TokyoRed 東京赤
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Kompany for me, for the goal threat (although I don't expect him to keep up his ratio from the end of last season...)

    • Aston-villain
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Jesus or Aguero ???

      1. Bambi
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Either, will expect neither to play in excess of 2500 mins over the season but them both boast very high goals per min averages

      2. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        KDB 🙂

        1. Aston-villain
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Kdb and jesus is likely for me.

          1. Waxys
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Can you afford that?

            1. Aston-villain
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Yeh, will have to go without sanchez tho and maybe benteke as a 3rd striker....

            2. Dr. Agabuse
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              no it's not affordable.

      3. UnitedFan
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Aguero

    • Bambi
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      How's this for a 352?

      My first 352 attempt, care to rate my team?

      begovic Eliot
      Bailly Trippier Cedric Lowton 4.0
      KDB Coutinho Willian Zaha Stanislas
      Kane Jesus 4.5

      1. Dasher0303
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Jesus to Laca, and risky going without Lukaku.

      2. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Your 4th def wants to play for Brighton - best rotation for Cedric.

    • Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Sturridge coming on.

      1. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Strurridge coming off injured warming up.

        1. SUAREZ_MESSI_COUTINHO
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Nice attempt Waxys.

          1. Waxys
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            It was a joke

            1. willl
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              ha

    • Positive vibes
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Please choose:

      A. Laca, KdB, Willian
      B. Morata, Sane, Coutinho
      C. Others, please mention

      Now I'm stick with A, but lil bit worried looking Laca in pre season.

      My other players is Lukalu, Gayle, Alli, Mkhitaryan and Tom Carroll.

      Thx you.

      1. Dasher0303
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Still A

    • PvA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      @Individual

      Do you want to remove the Wordpress banner on your site mate?

      1. The Wise Owl
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        ?

        1. PvA
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Are you the other guy who runs it?

          1. The Wise Owl
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            I don't even know what you're on about

            1. Aston-villain
              • 10 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Lol what a convo

    • Aston-villain
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Whats with the tend towards 3-5-2.....with all these attacking options about?
      Is it cos a good attack is seen as too expensive or am i missing something?

      1. The Wise Owl
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I'm going 3-4-3

      2. Individual
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        3-5-2 has been killed for now by no 4.5 playing striker v a multitude of 4.5 playing mids. One to watch out for later in the season

      3. Aston-villain
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Yeh....il stick to what i know..lol

      4. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Lot of great value in midfield c 9.5m-7m.

    • Rainer
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Will Cedric even start the season at this stage?

      Still not back training after the Confederations Cup.

      1. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        He bloody better

    • FPL Mentor
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      A or B

      A.
      Alonso
      Shelvey
      Willian
      Rashford

      B.
      Mee
      Pogba
      Sterling
      Perez
      + 1.0m in the bank

    • Obi-1 Kenobi-0
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Is Son going to be fit for the start of the season? Had a google but couldn't find anything pertinent.

      1. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Nope

    • The Cherry Picker
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      A. Firmino and Sane
      B. Defoe and Salah

      Thanks

      1. MB10
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Hernandez and Coutinho

        1. Smoky Johnson
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          This^

    • PvA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Coutinho's insight on his goal https://twitter.com/Phil_Coutinho/status/110120987621736448

      1. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Nearly as good as Rooney's tweets

        1. PvA
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Hi rio do u want picking up in the morning pal

    • Jake.l_8
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Loftus-Cheek or Tom Carroll?

      1. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        TCarroll!

      2. balint84
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        tom

      3. HurriKane
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        TC

    • FPL Mentor
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      RMT

      De Gea
      Cedric Lindelof Trippier
      Coutinho Pogba Sterling Zaha
      Aguero Kane (C) Perez

      (Elliot, R.L-C, Mee, Rangel)

      Thoughts?

    • okan58
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Willian and Kane or Sane and Lacazette?

      1. FPL Mentor
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        A

      2. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Absolutely W & K!

      3. UnitedFan
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        First option.

      4. HurriKane
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        A

      5. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        A

    • fedolefan
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Whom do West Ham rotate well with? Their keepers usually get a lot of shots to save.

      1. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah very good I'm very happy with Joe Hart's pricing incredible value I couldn't be happier

        1. HurriKane
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          better option than foster at 4.5m ?

          1. Waxys
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Wayyyy better he's amazing value sure to rise up in price so fast

        2. fedolefan
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Problem is I don't know the West Ham second choice keeper or a keeper that rotates well. There's always room for more research.

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Adrián and Hart. Adrián is a better keeper.

            WHM || WAT; WBA rotation partners.

            1. fedolefan
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Thank you Sir. Hart and Gomes will be good.

      2. *sigh*
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Joe Hart doesn't do saves

    • Flynny
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      How is this lot looking folks?

      Foster elliot
      Trippier lindelof Cedric dunk mee
      Kdb pogba willian Ramsey Carroll
      Kane lukaku Rodriguez

      Thanks

      1. Netley Lucas
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        We back to KDB over Sane Flynny? Not much te go on tbh but I did like both Willian's & Rambo's 'performances' just now.

        1. Flynny
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Got a gut feeling on Kdb mate

          More nailed

          And more integral to the Team!

          1. Netley Lucas
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            At LW Sane looks okay because only Sterling can really challenge and Sane looks a better player. Question is can he become a 5.5/6.0ppg player, up from a 4? If he can close that gap with KDB and we can use that 1.5 effectively... 😆

            1. Flynny
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              That we just won't know netley mate....

              It's touch and go the better one is...you know me..ill 0rob flip back to sane!

              Also wondering re Cedric and if he will start first games following confederations

              Could easily do Cedric and lindy to bertie and daniels!

              1. Netley Lucas
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 8 months ago

                Lucy the Saints fan reckons Cedric is better value than Bertie as he'll step-up in class. He kind of needs to as he's way less value than Bertie on last season's form.

    • waldofeen
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Which team is better?
      Foster (Begovic)
      Ake Cedric Mcauley (Mee rangel)
      Willian Coutinho Pogba Sane(RLC)
      Kane Lukaku Gayle
      Or
      Foster (Elliot)
      Morgan Lascelles Cedric(Mee Rangel)
      Puncheon Coutinho Pogba Sane(RLC)
      Kane Lukaku Morata

      All suggestions welcome.

    • Syd.
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Any Cresswell Love?

      1. Essem
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Yes.

    • FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I think West Ham might suprise some people defensively this season. Fonte getting a chance to gel with Zabaletta and Ogbonna could be ok

    • Simon69
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      I know they are pricey but surely one must consider a Chelsea defender after this display?

      1. UnitedFan
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Weak Arsenal team, no?

      2. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Yes, but also tasty midfield and Morata - can only have three!

    • Thoughtopsy
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      anyone got a draft league I can join?

    • red forever
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Willian & Kane

      Alli & morata

      Same price, but which one?

      1. Rex Lapis
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Willian Kane

      2. UnitedFan
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        First pair

      3. Dasher0303
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Alli presents insane value but still A

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          A = known and proven

    • Dasher0303
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Begovic or Fabianski or Foster as keeper with Elliot as second keeper??

      Elliot pretty much nailed if Newcastle don't sign a keeper and even he will be backup according to Rafa comments.

      Begovic and Fabs rotate with Elliot well, but Foster doesn't,but has a very good run of fixtures, although West Brom aren't great defensively these days, especially with the lack of depth and ageing of defence.

      1. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Elliot and Hart is my combo

        1. Dasher0303
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Out of the ones I said, which one??

          1. Waxys
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 8 months ago

            Elliot and Hart is what I recommend. The others don't rotate as well

            1. Andy_Social
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 8 months ago

              Bego - Bou have strengthened in defence

    • sentz05
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      RMT

      Hart Elliott

      Cedric Dawson Trippier Lindelof Rangel

      Redmond Ramsey Willian Zaha Caroll

      Kane Jesus Lukaku

    • Swanee11
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 8 months ago

      Going off the beaten path with a 5-2-3. What do you think?

      Foster
      Trippier Alonso Kolasinac Lindelof Cedric
      Zaha Willian
      Kane Lukaku Laca

      Fabianksi RLC Carroll Mcarthur

      1. Dasher0303
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        Missing city attack.

      2. Waxys
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        4/10 No Man City and Liverpool no good

      3. Dasher0303
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 8 months ago

        I also find it funny how you have tripled up Crystal Palace in midfield.

        1. Andy_Social
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          First person I've seen after me who's done that. Very smart tactic!

        2. Swanee11
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 8 months ago

          Planning on using a wildcard at the int break.Just want to see the rotation of pool and city before I pick a couple.