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The search for value, in particular among defenders, was a central focus of this week’s discussions, which also covered the prospects of La Liga stars in the Premier League and marked the premature retirement of one the Fantasy Football’s most successful Spaniards.

Our community writers also focus on player pricing, top tips for success in Fantasy Premier League’s draft game as well as ownership trends.

Bonus magnets in the Sky Sports game are among the topics covered in our Members table round-up and we finish off with a look at the latest community tournaments available.

The Community Articles

With more than 700,000 now signed up to the Fantasy Premier League, the ownership trends have been fluctuating markedly since its launch. Milvus’ community article on ownership trends takes a key look at the significant early movement.

One group of players that are seeing significant activity are premium defenders, including wing-backs that offer potential returns at both ends. Whether this group of players offer better value than mid-price midfielders is the subject of FPL Virgin’s debut community article.

Positively priced punts are the focus of The Boose’s latest piece, as he considers those who offer considerable bang for their buck from FPL’s player list.

Elsewhere, Spreadsheet has turned to his abacus to assess whether misfiring attackers one season are able to dramatically improve their goal conversion rate over their next campaign. This follows on from Prokoptas’ article earlier this month on the Plexiglas Principle, which seeks to find out if underperforming players can strengthen their returns over time.

To help those playing FPL’s draft game, our resident expert Pav A Nice Day dropped by to offer his guidance on constructing the perfect player list for the forthcoming draft nights.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

The community articles section’s focus on rearguard options spilled out into our Hot Topics with That Posh Bloke casting his monocled eye over some spiffing chaps in defence.

Bournemouth defenders have piqued the interest of Miguel Sanchez, who canvassed views on whether centre back Nathan Ake or full back Charlie Daniels are the best options from the Cherries backline. While Lucy made a triumphant return to offer guidance on the best Southampton defenders to invest in, as part of her look at Saints assets.

Newcastle and Swansea’s kindly priced defenders are on Teddy’s radar, after his research found that the two sides rotate strongly for those who track the fixtures and are looking to save funds in defence.

There was further consideration of defensive rotation in our discussion of the best goalkeeper strategy.

Pre-season friendlies offer Fantasy managers the perfect opportunity to gather vital clues on whether their picks will be sure starters and offer returns.

However, so far the 19.6% of FPL managers who own Paul Pogba been left disappointed by his performances, according to our discussion on lessons learned from the summer fixtures played so far.

The dream of a more attacking role for the Frenchman is still yet to be realised.

In contrast, Pogba’s team-mate Henrikh Mkhitaryan has impressed, with a goal and an assist midweek during the Red Devil’s US tour. We wondered why, given his advanced role and strong summer form, he is still only in 4.3% of FPL squads.

Crystal Palace kicked off their summer preparations with a 2-0 loss to Liverpool to dent interest in their assets. But with a strong opening set of fixtures Andy8wsm ponders whether their newly appointed captain Jason Puncheon may at last turn his enticing underlying statistics into Fantasy points. As followers of the Scoutcast last season will know, that is an issue I may be reluctant to revisit for a second successive campaign.

At least the 5.0 priced Eagles midfielder is cheap, even if he doesn’t offer good value based on his history. This difference between a player’s price and their real value is an issue that Deulofail addresses in his latest discussion.

The price tag of Chelsea’s incoming new recruit, Alvaro Morata, was eagerly awaited this week. But, as Ownership Tactic asks, can the Real Madrid striker do it on a cold windy night in Stoke? He added to this discussion with a roll call of those who have made a successful transition from La Liga to the Premier League, as well as those who failed to make the grade.

If Morata, who is also the subject of this discussion by Prokoptas,  gets off to a good start, team plans may need to change to accommodate him. This is where a flexible FPL friend can help out, says our Hot Topic on players that can easily be jettisoned to make way for an early season bandwagon.

One such bandwagon in FPL’s past is Michu, who scored an incredible 18 Premier League goals for Swansea in the 2012/13 season and this week sadly announced his retirement through injury. Wild Rover was among those who dropped by to pay their respects to the Spaniard.

Bargain hunters were once again out in full force this week as they rummaged through the player list in search of gems. Aaron Ramsey, Arsenal’s 7.0 valued midfielder who has scored once and assisted another goal in pre-season, is among those garnering interest. But Drip Doctor warns that patience may be needed with the Welshman, who he doubts will be able to produce frequent attacking points.

Chelsea’s development squad is proving an attractive source of budget midfielders. New Watford signing Nathan Chalaboah and Reuben Loftus Cheek – who is on loan at Crystal Palace – have attracted the attention of Scotty B, based on the promise of more game time at their new clubs. Both are priced at 4.5 but AceKn1ght urges Fantasy managers to make sure they also consider the potential of midfielders priced at 5.0.

Southampton are proving another prime route for those in search of value, with the south coast outfit figuring prominently in Pukka-Geoff’s discussion on teams to double, or even triple up, on.

Meanwhile, value from third strikers is the subject of Pele Alli’s latest Hot Topic, with Triggerlips adding to the debate by asking whether Newcastle forward Dwight Gayle deserves to be in our frontlines.

Sales shoppers are steering clear of Liverpool this season with their stars of 2016/17, including Philippe Coutinho, suffering value hikes. Given that the Reds look set to rotate around Champions League games, we asked whether their assets may be best avoided. The no-Liverpool player strategy of last year’s FPL winner and Everton fan Ben Crabtree certainly offers a powerful case for adopting this potentially risky tactic.

123thro is looking to go further than Ben by basing his team around avoiding players from last year’s top six sides and asked for your tips of other assets to consider.

Finally, Athletico Timbo asked the community to dust off their crystal balls and predict who will be next season’s Fantasy hits and misses.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members Tables

Spreadsheet has created a table entitled, ‘should have scored more’, in support of his community article on misfiring attackers’ potential for improvement.

For those playing Sky Fantasy Football Disable has made a table dedicated to players who have dominated the game’s bonus point allocation.

Elsewhere, Mynjdusta has constructed two tables looking at the best defender prospects and goalkeepers with impressive underlying statistics.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

PDM is looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Finally, a reminder that Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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  1. RubberDucky
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Evans twisted ankle.

    1. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      He must be made of glass that man

      1. RubberDucky
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Not as much glass as Johnny Sexton

    2. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Hegazi nailed at 4.5m for the opening fixtures now ?

      1. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Isn't he made of glass too.

        Really a Pulis type of pair of defenders, lol.

  2. bitm2007
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    I joined Ronraar (Austin Powers) head to head H2O draft league last night, i'm now looking for a classic style draft league to enter (if it's a cash league, all the better). Anybody on here planning to set one up in the next 24 hours ? I'm not keen on the public leagues, too many casuals who are more likely to drop out.

      1. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Thanks

  3. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Injury prone defenders FTW

  4. Positive vibes
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    No, I have also another 4.0 def.
    So go with B?

    If we only see the first team potential, A or B?

  5. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    No love for Mkitaryan? He's done something in every pre season game so far.

    1. ihateramsey2
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Troll

    2. Fantasy Gold
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Doesn't really mean anything

    3. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      He is in my team at the moment he is more attacking then the much hyped pogba

    4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Definitely on my watch list... But i already have Lukaku & Lindelof... Not sure want to double up on a mourinho attack just yet until see a game or two. Mkhitaryan could score anything thisnyear though, he could easily perform as a 10.0 or 10.5 md if he hits the form he had for dortmund.

    5. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      I think the reason that Pogba is more popular then Mkhitaryan is that it is much easier to spell

  6. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Evans injured. Who could possibly have guessed.....

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Poor lad. Good player on his day for a team like WBA.

    2. Margarido
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Egypcian guy nailed.
      4.5M

  7. Fantasy Gold
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Evans injured.

    Some things never change 😆

  8. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    All aboard the Hegazi train.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      The holy grail The Mee Rotator

      1. Ser Davos
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Haha FPL Gods do justice. Let us rejoice!

  9. MarceloSalasManUtd97-98
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Is my team the best team out of everyones, and the best ever team anyone has put together on Fantasy Football?

    Foster, Cedric, Trippier, Lindelof, Ince, Coutinho, Alli, Willian, Kane, Lukaku, Rashford.

    Is it the best ever?

    1. Fitzy.
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      I'm not about to copy it, put it that way.

    2. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Nah, Donald Trump's team is the best.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Link?

          1. Oven Glover
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 15 days ago

            Should have the best team as well 😉

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Ince & Rashford?!

    4. QueefParkRangers
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Ince and Rashford will troll for first weeks im sure

  10. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    This guy millejoievic looks quality, has been a very good signing for palace from day 1

    Can see myself bringing him in at some point and isn't he on pens for palace ??

  11. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    A) Foster/Myhill
    B) Rotating Foster/Heaton

    Is B worth the extra 1M?

    1. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Foster/Hart

    2. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      A

    3. UnitedFan
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      A

    4. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Yes. Ask Doozy.

    5. WBA : BOU 182 bur -62 STK 211 bri -155 WHM 102 ars -418 WAT 330

      WBA/BUR: BOU 182 . WBA 62 . STK 211 . CPL 109 . WHM 102 . HUD 165 . WAT 330

      WBA/SWA: BOU 182 . bur -62 . STK 211 . NEW -118 . WHM 102 . WAT 156 . WAT 330

      1. Dreams
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Hello Doos. Thanks for the email.

        1. You're welcome. I hope it is of interest. Let me know your thoughts.

          1. Dreams
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 15 days ago

            Sure is. Will take some time to get used to it. Currently enjoying knowing about it.

            1. 😀

  12. Ser Davos
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    If you're playing 4 at the back then you can have a 4.0 fifth defender as any no shows will auto sub in one if your 4.5 midfielders. (If that makes sense)

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Yep, cheats a half.

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Great point.

  13. markmc1406
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Bertrand/ Morato or Alonso/Firmino? Both combinations the same price. Though Alonso is expensive at 7m I think he will be the highest scoring defender this year.

    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Bertrand ans Morata

  14. Syd.
    • 17 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Zaha being kicked off the pitch

    Jonny Evans injured

    Somethings never change

    1. Hughes Your Daddy
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Agreed, that barging elbow on him was terrible, someone needs to tell Nyom this is a friendly.

      Happy with RLC so far, very physical presence in midfield, and range of passing.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Is the game on sky or uk tv anywhere?

  15. Teror
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    So, in terms of goalkeeper pairings would you...

    A. De Gea / Lloris + 4.0 (total 9.5)

    B. Heaton + 4.5 (total 9.5)

    C. 4.5 + 4.5 (total 9)

    ??

    1. gaurava1216
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Foster and Fabianski 9m
      or foster and Eliot 8.5m

      WBA have a great run of games....Fabianski rotates home and away with him

      Elliot could be a 4m starter

    2. Lady Yaya
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      4.5 + 4.0

  16. gaurava1216
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    What position does Bernardo Silva play?

    Any ideas if this jeopardises Sane's position?

    1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      No, that would be insané

  17. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    I'm a credit to the community

    1. PvA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      😆

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Which community ?

      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        The

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          I've never heard of the '' the '' community

    3. Syd.
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Community service is not a thing to be proud off 😉

  18. Margarido
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Mili Kelly Delaney
    Townsend LOftus Puncheon Schlupp
    Sako Benteke Zaha

    Think De Bôer is Wrong there regarding Mili and Kelly. Mili is his best center midfield and Kelly an Average full back.

    On the plus side, this Set up frees up even more Zaha. Nice First set of fixtures also.

    1. Hughes Your Daddy
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Its only because of injuries to our defence that we set up with Luka and Kelly there.

      1. Who is injured, please?

  19. Lady Yaya
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    GK: Foster (Myhill)
    DEF: Cedric, Trippier, Mee/Dunk/Naughton (rotated)
    MID: Alli, Pogba, Redmond, Willian (Carroll)
    FWD: Kane, Lukaku, Defoe

    Thinking of replacing Pogba for Ramsey, Alli for Sane and that'll give me enough money to get Morata instead of Defoe, is that worth it? Thanks 🙂

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Kane Lukaku Morata would certainly be an intersting front 3

      1. Malcolm Tucker for England …
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        that's my current line-up.
        Means i need a bit of luck on my mid price midfielders though and can only get KDB or Salah, not both

    2. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      I would want some city in there for sure

  20. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    AC Milan beating Bayern 3-0 in a friendly with Borini on the pitch

  21. Kryten
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Sky Sports rlc comments

    WEST BROM 0-1 PALACE

    26: Loftus-Cheek has looked composed in Palace's midfield so far. He's making his first start since joining Palace on loan from Chelsea

    1. SW6
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Really? I'm watching and haven't seen him touch the ball.

    2. Hughes Your Daddy
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Hes having a great game so far.

  22. mcrayeps
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    considering Foster -> J. Hart now 😉

    1. FPL Maldini
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Yeah I have done it already

    2. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Haha no way

    3. Fantasy Gold
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      lol

  23. RubberDucky
    9 years, 15 days ago

    CPL back 4 start of season???

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      They'll play 3 at the back, new signings will change everything.

    2. Jazz!
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      5*

    3. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      Could even have 6 FPL defenders playing, if PVA is selected further forward.

      1. RubberDucky
        9 years, 15 days ago

        I suppose what I'm really getting at is are there any realistically nailed cpl Dec at 4.5

  24. WVA
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Rmt please

    Foster Elliott
    Monreal Lindelof Trippier Cedric Hun
    Mkhi Silva Ramsey Willian Carroll
    Kane Jesus Firmino

  25. UptheBlues
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    just a couple of questions:

    1) Is having 3 Man Utd players over the top?

    2) What are the thoughts on PVA as an option? I know he isn't starting against West Brom now but i think he could be a good differential, especially at LWB with the new 3 at the back formation.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      1) Depends who they are?

      2) Could be, but Jeff Schlupp is a proper LM, PvA is more of a hybrid.

      1. UptheBlues
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 15 days ago

        Lukaku, Mkhitaryan, Lindelof is what i am thinking at the moment

        1. Lebowski85
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 15 days ago

          I'm on this

  26. DAZZ
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    I didnt need Morata in at 10.0, it hurts my head, damn

  27. Hughes Your Daddy
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Card at last for Nyom

  28. Pigeon
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    With all the talk of Lindelof being eased into the team (I think he'll start anyway) do I play it safe by picking Daniels and rotate with Mee or pick Lindelof?

  29. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Nyom is shocking.

    1. Ser Davos
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 15 days ago

      I know, legs sown on by elderly gentlemen off Toy Story

  30. RubberDucky
    9 years, 15 days ago

    Nyom is shocking not as an PL foootballer but as a footballer in general