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Goals and assists in the pre-season friendlies sparked much debate among the community over the past week, as two notable big -hitters showed their class to get the locals chattering.

We look back over those notable discussions in our review of the week’s Hot Topics, while also highlighting another set of articles from two regular scribes.

We also bring news of an exciting – and rather epic – new community tournament.

The Community Articles

The player ownership debate was once again all the rage this week, with Red Arrows setting the agenda with his hugely acclaimed Hot Topic, a discussion which followed hot on the heels of a new updated article from Milvus which scans the current movers and shakers in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) market.

Elsewhere, we saw a debut community article from YTFC_Scratch who offered us insight into his own struggle between trusting his emotions and gut instincts next to putting faith in mathematical algorithms such as our own Rate My Team. A great new addition to our community contributors, look out for more from Scratch next week.

Finally, our resident Draft game expert Pav A Nice Day has delivered once again, providing another essential guide that breaks down his top ten tips for Draft Day. This is his third article submitted this summer and follows on from his perfect player list.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

That lauded thread from Red Arrows was one of many key discussions that took place this week, with big ticket Fantasy assets hogging the attention.

Ironically, we’d already laid the groundwork for what was to come by asking you how much credence you put on pre-season form and how it influences your decision-making.

It didn’t end there, with this Hot Topic from The Fantasy Freak also pre-empting events and discussions to come. He asked whether we were overlooking Chelsea’s Marcos Alonso and, just two days later and following a goal against Bayern Munich, that subject resurfaced.

First, Rupert The Horse provided some vital analysis of the Blues wing-back. Then we asked if, even with his price of 7.0, Alonso was back in the game and returning to our initial squad line-ups.

Then it was Kevin De Bruyne’s turn to shine. His stellar performance and two assists in Manchester City’s stunning 4-1 victory over Real Madrid opened our eyes, once again, to the Belgian’s appeal and we swooped to chair the discussion. That extended later in the week with AceK1ght’s excellent post on the potential routes into Pep Guardiola’s stellar attack.

Following that, Kuntheman offered his views on City’s likely line-up and our options for navigating their notorious rotation policy. Meanwhile, IMember chose to focus purely on the debate raging over the City strikers, underlining his view that “Pep loves Jesus”.

Away from City, Distinctly Average was anything but with his superb post that examined our midfield options, confessing that he was troubled by the array of options on offer. Deulofail then followed up by suggesting that we were being blinded by the cast of 7.0 candidates.

Switching to the strikers, AceKn1ght returned with another popular post on the merits of West Ham United’s new capture Javier Hernandez – a player we know well and who seems perfectly suited to the role of third striker in 3-4-3 setups.

“Little Pea” offers potential, a word which sums up Manchester United’s Marcus Rashford. Overshadowed by new team-mate Romelu Lukaku, Forever Mirin certainly made a strong case to us to consider the starlet striker in his midweek Hot Topic.

While that pair are both prospects for next season, Spurs’ Harry Kane is undoubtedly a proven commodity and yet Aggero was on hand to draw our attention to the fact that pundits have claimed that the striker will be unable to sustain his scoring form. It’s fair to say that I, and many others, were not ready to accept such a theory.

Finally, and on a lighter note perhaps, this fabulous post from 1569Tippins describes a nightmarish scenario that might just haunt other experienced Fantasy managers. Tippins describes how he’s been refused entry to his work’s cash league on the grounds of his expertise, with his colleagues insisting that he accepts a handicap if he is to enter. Extraordinary stuff and a story we’re keen to track.

The Members’ Tables

FPL Virgin hogged the limelight when it came to Members’ tables this week, donating no less than three excellent new public offerings for our perusal.

He started with this view of Bournemouth’s defensive options. He followed that up with an effort which analysed those players assured of starting roles in his “Nailed On” table. Meanwhile, the third table looked at those players hooked off before the 90-minute mark, with Chelsea’s Eden Hazard topping the ranks of his “Never Finishes A Match” analysis.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

There was big news this week with the launch of a first tournament from the new Community Watch committee. The aptly-named Community Watch Tournament is built around the concept of a head-to-head league made up of 20 teams, each with seven to 10 members.

If you’ve ever played one of the classic FFSUEFA team tournaments then you already know the gist. If not, then you really need to check it out and get involved.

Elsewhere, PDM is still looking for those who have finished at least one FPL season within the top 1,000 to join his Top 1K Any Season league (21265-6670), and those with at least one top 10,000 finish are invited to join Red Lightning’s Top 10,000 Any Season league. (757-400).

Also, Torres Magic’s Last Man Standing contest (44937-13340) is still open for entries, clocking up over 2000 so far.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us a summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head-to-head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Kun or Lukaku?

    1. La Roja
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Cool kids have both

    2. rocrocodile
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      If ditching one of them leaves room for midfielders from the team whose striker you ditched: Keep Lukaku.

    3. BrockLanders
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Lukaku for me. Kane notoriously slow starter

  2. Gazpilicueta
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone care to share some thoughts on Man United defence? Based on their number of cleanies expected, and early fixtures I want one, but can't figure out who.

    A) DDG, leave him in goal forever and never have a benching headache, oh how you will not be missed rotation!
    B) Valencia, proven in the league, quality and basically a winger throwing balls into Stormzy but 6.5 is pricey (especially for a team that already has Alonso)
    C) Lindelof, the new guy and 5.5 to boot! cant go wrong! (except he might not be nailed)
    D) someone else?

    1. rocrocodile
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Valencia. Good chances of attacking points, and really easy to downgrade.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Bailly's probably the best value given Lindy's dreadful starts. Tony V just looks a bit rich.

    3. Gazpilicueta
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      thanks guys, I appreciate your thoughts

  3. Tiamani Warrior
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Morata and laca both playing as left wingers. Oh dear back to the drawing board

    1. MarvelouSuccess
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Or just go Lukaku and Kane for goals galore. Safe picks.

      1. Tiamani Warrior
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Looking for a third striker to go with them

    2. Twelve years a slave
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Conte maybe testing out if he can use Morata to cover the Hazard absense, which would mean batashoi up front.
      However as they lost it may not be an experiment he will repeat

      1. Tiamani Warrior
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Who would you pick if those two?

  4. Gazpilicueta
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Are there any pre season games on tonight? or maybe someone could point me towards somewhere i can check every day?

    1. MarvelouSuccess
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Man City vs Spurs

      1. Gazpilicueta
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        thanks!

    2. 32chickens
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      hit the pre season tab on this website

  5. bojack
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    I like how Stones was getting on the end of those KDB crosses in that friendly I watched.

    Could someone please administer a slap to me before I consider him.

    1. MarvelouSuccess
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      KDB has always been essential in my eyes. Stones not so much.

      1. bojack
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        😆

  6. BrockLanders
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Real quandary over Salah or Coutinho now!!

    1. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Coutinho

      If he stays

    2. MarvelouSuccess
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I went with Salah. Coutinho might be distracted by Barca come the season.

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Think Phil's the class act.

    4. MOBAFFILIATED
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Coutinho if you must pick between the two. Personally I think Mane is worth the extra 0.5 and a great differential

  7. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Alves stunner.

    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Neymar likes this status

  8. BrockLanders
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Who's this years Capoue?

    1. MarvelouSuccess
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Ince or Milivojevic

    2. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Capoue.

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      RLC or Tom Carroll or maybe Challah... They're all stupidly cheap

    4. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Almost certainly a palace player for mine just not certain if it will be Ruben, Puncheon or Mihililoloiloivic

  9. Cok3y5murf
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Who do we think scores more in GW1, Willian or Alli?

    1. MarvelouSuccess
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Alli

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Is very difficult to call for a single game week! Willian has a lovely fixture compared to Alli

    3. Heytch
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Willian

      Planning a GW2 wildcard? 😆

  10. La Vida Latte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Is yoshida nailed on when Van Dijk is back (if he stays)

    1. MarvelouSuccess
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

  11. MarvelouSuccess
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    West Brom having a horrid pre season. Anyone turning away from their assets?

    1. bojack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Tempted to lose Foster, the only one in my latest draft.

      Can see Bournemouth scoring at least 2.

    2. Licky
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I'm not feeling them personally, the fixtures are good on paper but that doesn't matter if the team is bad, and I can see them going down.

  12. diesel001
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    RMT please:

    Heaton - Foster
    Trippier - Bailly - Monreal - Bertrand - Dummett
    Willian - Coutinho - Eriksen - Zaha
    Lukaku - Jesus - Quaner

    1. FPL Virgin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Nice GK combo 🙂

    2. BrockLanders
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Who the hells Quaner?

      1. MarvelouSuccess
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        He's the Huddersfield striker

    3. Sedemuda
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Only 14 players?

  13. PvA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you say was better at attacking last season, WBA or Southampton?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Use the comparison tool.

      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Good advice.

    2. bojack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Southampton towards the end of last year couldn't hit a barn door. Baggies were on the beach from about Valentine's Day. Hard to say.

    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      WBA were set piece kings and S'ton pretty much stopped scoring when Gabbi got injured.

  14. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Both of City/Spurs second to last pre season game, expecting full strength at some point

    1. Licky
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Should be a good run out for them too, hopefully not two different teams either half.

  15. PvA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Really can't wait for the season to start, almost there!

    1. PvA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Someone bookmark this and link me it when I'm raging on the 2nd matchday please?

      1. bojack
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Ha!

        Me neither. Friday night kick off will be fun. Early match on the Saturday morning then going the match at 3. Happy days are here again.

        1. PvA
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Which game are you going to?

          1. bojack
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 4 months ago

            Baggies v Bournemouth.

            Glamour fixture! Normally get to the Hawthorns 5/6 times a season ish.

            1. PvA
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 4 months ago

              Ohhhh you're from the Midlands too?

              Every fixture at the Hawthorns is a glamour one.

              1. bojack
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 4 months ago

                Yeah Birmingham these days (originally a Geordie tho!).

                1. PvA
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 4 months ago

                  Up the Birms. +1 respect for being in Brum.

    2. BrockLanders
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      13 and half days.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Deadline is Friday night.

        1. BrockLanders
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Goodness. Forgot about that!!

  16. BrockLanders
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Can't believe its less than 2 weeks till everyone says they're never playing this game again..

    1. bojack
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Vidiprinter:

      Southampton 0 - 1 Swansea (Fer '89)

      Fantasy football Scout:

      "Nooooooooooooooooo"

      1. Pigeon
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Bookmarked

  17. Anirudh1709
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    RMT

    DDG. Elliot.
    Alonso. Bertrand. Dawson. Kolasinac. 4.0
    Eriksen. Zaha. Willian. JWP. T Caroll.
    Aguero. Lukaku. Gayle.

    1. BrockLanders
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Not sure Alonsos necessary at that price. Midfield light as well.

      1. thepeen555
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Alonso is will likely out score in points a lot of Chelskis players

      2. Anirudh1709
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Maybe, but I feel Alonso could easily justify the price.

    2. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Great team. If Gayle works you are sorted

  18. cheese XL
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts please.

    Foster (Myhill)
    Lindelof Cedric Trippier Daniels (4.0 def)
    KDB Salah Willian Ramsey (RLC)
    Kane Lukaku (4.5 fwd)

    Cheers

    1. hogree
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Gambling with Lindelof and Cedric (uncertain for gw1), I'd swap out one for a safer option. Like the rest

      1. MarvelouSuccess
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Swap Cedric out for Yoshida.

    2. Optic1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Not sure on Ramsey, rest is solid.

  19. Wings Fan
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    There's bound to be a Sane start and goal later, just to confuse us further

    1. H-SF
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I'd love that. KDB such a pain to fit in.

      1. Wings Fan
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        It still wouldn't convince me he's nailed though!

  20. the snazzy viking
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Ramsey/Wijnaldum in a 3-4-3

    or

    Alonso in a 4-3-3

    1. MOBAFFILIATED
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Seeing the shift to wing back formations from some managers this season could be the year of the defender.

      I'd say Alonso

      1. Gazpilicueta
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        agreed

  21. The Architect of Anarchy
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    RMT please

    Forster
    Daniels-Alonso-kolasinac
    Mane-arnautovic-milvojevic-fraser
    Laca-aguero(VC)-lukaku(c)

    Elliot-Tarroll-rangel-hunemeier

    1. BrockLanders
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Brutal midfield

      1. Pirlø's Pen
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Shitttest midfield going *

        1. The Architect of Anarchy
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          😐

    2. the snazzy viking
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Alli and Willian instead of Mane and Arnie and then we can start talking

      1. The Architect of Anarchy
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        How about Salah and fabregas for mane and Arnie.?

        1. the snazzy viking
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Ok with Fabregas, but you need a Tottenham player

          1. The Architect of Anarchy
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 4 months ago

            Can't have em all, can I?
            One think I can do is monito aguero situation and drop him for Defoe/firmino and upgrade Arnie . Will also leave 1M itb

    3. MOBAFFILIATED
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I actually like the Alonso / Kola combo and think they'll rack up points this year.

      Arnautovic is a problem for sure.

      1. The Architect of Anarchy
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I guess so.
        One of Willian or fabregas to replace Arnie?

        1. MOBAFFILIATED
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Template would say willian or zaha.

          Zaha is probably your best (and safest) bet

          1. The Architect of Anarchy
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 4 months ago

            It's no fun playing safe. Especially in first week
            Fabregas gets the place atm

  22. Ronnies
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts on this lot guys ..

    ddg // eliott

    trippier // dawson // betrand // daniels // (hunemeier)

    KDB // coutinho // zaha // (tcarroll, rlc)

    kane // lukaku // austin

    Tnks

  23. klopp it guys
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Feel free to rate my team

    Foster

    Valencia, daniels, cedric

    Willian, fletcher, coutinho, de bruyne

    Kane, lukaku, chico

    Bench: elliot, rlc, mee, rangel

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Fletcher 😯

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Clearly a typo.

        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Is it? Expensive midfield there.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 4 months ago

            No one of sound mind would get Darren Fletcher in after an inexplicable price rise.

      2. Optimus.
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I like the way he hid him between Kdb and Willian thinking we wouldnt notice

        http://i.imgur.com/yutRrqm.gif

        1. bojack
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Keep these GIFs coming.

        2. Fantasy Gold
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          😆

    2. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Fletcher (c), good to go.

      1. MarvelouSuccess
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        We will rage if Fletcher scores a hatty.

  24. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    PSG 2-1

  25. Team Bobcat
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Latest draft for now. Up front seems weak ( 1m to spend?)

    Courtois
    Valencia Trippier Daniels
    KDB Eriksen Zaha Fabregas
    Lacazette Firmino Gabbi

    Elliott Mee Gamez Carroll

    Quick replies please nothing set in stone just yet

  26. Numb
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Are we overlooking Jon Walters at our peril?

    5.5 and classed as a midfielder but playing the "second striker" role for Burnley. On form and scoring goals pre-season. Averaged 4.5 points per start last season, a shade higher than Zaha for example.

    1. Numb
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I say "we" but I'm not overlooking him, he's in my team - I mean everyone else.

      P.S. Feel free to hot topic this.

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      He could be being criminally underrated actually. But not a starter for me, wait & see but have on watchlist

  27. Sillet Bang
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Coutious
    Cedric Trippier Lindloff
    Zaha Kdb Alli Salah Willian
    Lukaku@ Rooney

    Elliot Ayew Long Hum

    Needs more on the bench?

    1. Gazpilicueta
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I like the structure, and most of the players, there is however, not enough Kane in this team.

  28. The Velvet Neutral Ground
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Repost:

    Best 6.0 (or less) 5th mid for first few weeks of season. Have Carroll as 4th assuming Siggy goes to Everton

    1. FANTASYFOOTBALLPRO
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      milivojevic

  29. FANTASYFOOTBALLPRO
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    surely we have to consider batshuayi now after contes comments on morata.his form has been good and he will probs get starts with hazard injured too.surely he starts season while morata adapts or even both could be tried together

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Is it just a waste of a FT for gw2, 3, or 4?

    2. Licky
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I'd be tempted but not from the off, and if not then I don't see the point.

  30. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Don't seem to see many people rotating Hennessey and Begovic to start the season..? 4.5 each and opening fixtures are -

    HUD - WAT - SWA - bur - BHA