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9 August 2017 2131 comments
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Romelu Lukaku scores, but Manchester United are comfortably second best to a fluent Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup.

Manchester United 1 Real Madrid 2

Statistics often find themselves the wrong side of damned lies, and so it proved in the UEFA Super Cup.

Man United and Real Madrid had six shots on target each in a match controlled by the Spanish giants pretty much from first whistle to last.

David de Gea had to pull off a number of fine saves, while his opposite number Keylor Navas most assuredly did not, although the mess he made of one effort led to United’s goal.

The Madrid keeper could only parry the influential Nemanja Matic’s shot straight to Romelu Lukaku, who pounced on the rebound to halve a two-goal deficit entirely in keeping with Madrid’s dominance.

The Belgian striker, at 48.7% the most popular player in Fantasy Premier League, had an average night, but his goal will at least keep him and his large Fantasy entourage happy enough ahead of what should be a rather less testing fixture at home to West Ham on Sunday.

Paul Pogba’s owners won’t be in such high spirits, however. The signing of Matic was meant to unleash the attacking threat of the Frenchman, owned by 23.3% of FPL managers, and he did have one fine chance – a free header – that he put too close to Navas. Lukaku’s effort from the rebound was even worse.

In fact, it was Matic himself who stole the show in the United midfield, and his occasional forays forward will have encouraged the 12.1% of FPL managers who have opted for his budget 5.0 charms.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan was an occasionally sparky presence, while Pogba’s decision-making was badly off at times.

The former finishes pre-season with three goals and as many assists, Pogba just the one assist.

And yet the Armenian appears in a mere 6.1% of FPL squads despite costing exactly the same – 8.0 – as his big-name team-mate. In the Sky Sports game, the Frenchman, at 11.2m, is 1.2m pricier. Both will need to improve on Sunday.

Jose Mourinho again opted for a three-man defence, using Matteo Darmian alongside Chris Smalling and Victor Lindelof, with both Eric Bailly and Phil Jones serving European bans.

The 9.0%-owned Lindelof again failed to impress, switching off for Madrid’s opening goal, with Mourinho’s pre-match comments suggesting that the Swede was played out of necessity.

“Lindelof came from a big club with a completely different level in terms of responsibility and I would prefer to give him a little more time but we have no alternative with two players lost to suspension and Marcos Rojo is injured, so we go with Victor.”

The Red Devils defence always looks considerably more secure with Bailly in it and he will surely walk back into the side for the West Ham match. Who his partner will be remains to be seen, although the smart money is surely on Jones, who at 5.0, could well be an early season option given Lindelof’s struggles.

Another well-owned asset, Antonio Valencia (8.2%), put in a strong showing and looked particularly dangerous going forward at wing-back, although Marcelo – never the greatest of defensive full-backs – perhaps helped him out with that.

But one player who did not impress was Jesse Lingard. The United midfielder was used extensively by Mourinho during pre-season and started in a left wing-back role but looked lost.

Forty-five uninspiring minutes later, Mourinho brought on Marcus Rashford in his place and he provided a pace and intensity on the left flank so badly lacking in the first half.

The youngster did fail to take one of the few clear-cut chances United had all night, but he could well have done enough to merit inclusion for Sunday’s season opener. At just 7.5 in FPL (he is a rather steeper 11.1m in Sky), Rashford offers genuine value for money – if he gets consistent pitch-time.

That’s a big if, however, and sacrificing what could be a premium United pick on a player who doesn’t start regularly carries obvious risk.

Despite the defeat, Mourinho was bullish post-match:

“I’m really happy to be with them and I’m going to fight with them all the way, so let’s go on Sunday. Old Trafford is waiting for us and I think Old Trafford has a reason to be behind us.”

He also spoke of his continued experiment with a three-man defence…

“We used pre-season to work and try to improve things we already do and develop things we don’t do. Lots of teams are playing with three defenders and wing-backs and we played like that against Sampdoria and LA Galaxy because it’s something that maybe during the season we are going to do.”

It remains to be seen if we see the system against West Ham on Sunday. Certainly, as a wing-back, Valencia’s stock should be improved, although the role on the left appears to be a problem area. It will also open up another spot for a central defender – another factor that could aid Jones’ cause.

Manchester United: De Gea; Smalling, Lindelof, Darmian; Valencia, Herrera (Fellaini 56), Matic, Pogba, Lingard; (Rashford 46), Mkhitaryan; Lukaku.
Subs not used: Romero, Mata, Martial, Carrick, Blind.

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  1. bulbuf
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Lads Please choose one:

    DDG (Elliott)

    Kolasinac, Daniels, Cedric, Stephens (Suttner)

    KDB, Zaha, x, Ritchie (Carroll)

    Lukaku, x, x

    a) Salah, Kane, Quaner
    b) Loftus-Cheek, Firmino, Kane + 0.5 ITB
    c) Alli, Jesus, Mounie (No Liverpool Cover)

    1. bulbuf
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      ANYONE????

    2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      B), but with Carroll.

      1. bulbuf
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        already have carroll

    3. Invincibles
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      C of those

      1. bulbuf
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        u reckon no kane no liverpool could work?

    4. GoRedz
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      how about Salah / jesus / Mounie, then you'll have your liverpool cover. No spurs but can't have them all

  2. Mogback
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Foster (Elliot)
    Cedric, Ake, Kola (Mee,Rangel)
    KDB, Willian, Milivo Ritchie (Carrol)
    Jesus, Kaku, Kane

    GTG ?

    1. bulbuf
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I like it. Upgrade Foster if you can. West Brom are a mess

    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Ditch Mili

      1. Mogback
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        And replace with ?

        1. bulbuf
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          RLC and Upgrate Foster to Forster

  3. poohdini
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    I tried to build a team without Kane and Lukaku, and I think it is surprisingly good.

    4-3-3

    Gomes - Hart
    Valencia - Bertrand - Kolasinac - Dawson - Mawson
    Eriksen - Willian - Mane - Carroll - Loftus Cheek
    Jesus - Lacazette - Gabbiadini

    Gomes and Hart have perfect home rotation except GW2 and GW32.
    Dawson and Mawson also have home rotation.

    1. bulbuf
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      You should have at least Kaku or Kane!!

    2. owls on the up
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I think your team would look better with them tbh

    3. GoRedz
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      you could probably make it better by having KDB in, if you play Firmino instead of Lacazette.

    4. Limbo
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Shockingly bad. So many question marks. 3/10

  4. Miami Monkey
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    More info I've gained from reading MCFC forums/Reddit:

    In a back 4, probably around 70% fans have Otamendi starting over Stones.

  5. Positive vibes
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Atsu or Iwobi?

    Thx you.

    1. michaelsims
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Atsu for me

    2. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Iwobi G/W1
      Atsu G/W 2-7

    3. thor79
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Is iwobi a starter?

  6. The Legend Squad
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Double Southampton defence is a no brainier with those opening fixtures. Can't see anyone else at 5m or below who offers a better chance of clean sheets

    1. Miami Monkey
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      agree. a triple up isnt too crazy an idea either

      1. JamieLauLFC
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        If you were to triple up, which two defenders? Cedric and Bertrand?

    2. ZeBestee
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      It might work out but i will rather have westbrom defender instead if u dont

    3. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      99% of team will have a So'ton defender. Question is, who will double up extra defender or Forster?

  7. ZeBestee
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    My team which probably i will stick with. Please rate it
    DDG Elliot
    Danilo Davies Cedric Hegazi Long
    Iwobi Eriksen Pedro Zaha Carroll
    Firmino Kane Jesus.

    1. ZeBestee
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      ?

  8. SpaceCadet
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Better pick?

    A. Willian and mee
    B. Alonso and matic/ 5.0 mid

    1. ZeBestee
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Difficult. B just

    2. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      B

  9. reason17
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Bailly - Kolasinac - Daniels - Clarke - Naughton

    How can i improve this back line?

    1. ViperStripes
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 17 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Alonso

    2. Bubz
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Southampton defender

      1. reason17
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Which one? i have 5.0 available but cedric won' play?

        1. Bubz
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          Why won't Cedric play?

          Yoshida/Stephens are fine too

          1. reason17
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 22 days ago

            Fitness since his exertions abroad?
            He hasn't really had much of a pre season

            1. Bubz
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 22 days ago

              I don't really understand that logic. Surely he should be fitter then players who didn't play in a tournament, he's been playing competitive football? I think he started in Sot's last preseason match as well

  10. brixtonBob
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Is Matic likely to be a regular starter for Man Utd ?

    1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      yes

    2. ZeBestee
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Looks like the engine, but wont expect lots of goals, maybe a few assists here and there

  11. Steve Stiffler
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    a) Mhki + Mane
    b) Zaha/ Willian + Ali (+1.0 ITB) (Have Kane)

    1. ZeBestee
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      A might reward u and be a bit of differential

      1. Steve Stiffler
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        cheers man

  12. Shaw must go on
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Stupid to go without United?? Today is my last day to tinker..... foster,Elliot rosenior,mee,francis,david luiz,trippier jwp,willian,kdb,sanchez,carroll kane,fimino,mounie 1M in the bank.... had lukaku since day one until I've watched the match last night.....think spurs,pool and city will score more goals overall....

    1. Red-United
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      It's not like anyone in the Premier League is on the same level as Real Madrid.

      Lukaku will score plenty for United in the Premier League, especially against the bottom half.

      I am a United fan, but I genuinely think he'd be the first name on my FPL team sheet even if I wasn't.

    2. Game of Stones
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I wouldn't risk going without for GW1 with his high ownership (a high percentage will captain as well). You can always downgrade to Jesus/Firmino if he doesn't perform. Sanchez will miss GW1, and perhaps GW2, due to injury.

    3. Shaw must go on
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      thanks....

  13. The special 5
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Am I the only one thinking Alexander Arnold wil start rb for Pool if he does very good going forward

    1. Pigeon
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Yes, he's been talked about a lot

      1. The special 5
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Why is he not in anyones teams?

        1. Pigeon
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          Liverpool have a shoddy defence for a top 6 team

          1. The special 5
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 22 days ago

            But attacking potential is there

            1. Pigeon
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 22 days ago

              Then get a midfielder

  14. nobwak
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A) Kane & Mkhitaryan
    B) Jesus & Alli + 0.5

  15. Smoky Johnson
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Who is your captain for GW2 ?

    1. Game of Stones
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Lukaku/Firmino

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      redmond

    3. GoRedz
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Lukaku or one of the Liverpool boys look like a good idea

    4. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Coutinho/Mané.

      1. Smoky Johnson
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Read that Coutinho trained today. Are you still keeping him in your team and captaining him?

        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          As long as he plays, he's in! 🙂

    5. Unliklinho
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Will depend on anyone showing form this weekend but, yeah Kaku or Salah from my team.

  16. Leeds2116
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Ryan Elliot
    Dummett Mee Daniels Danilo Stephens
    KDB Willian Zaha Carroll Ritchie
    Kane Firmino Lukaku

    pleawse rate

  17. reason17
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Why is Cedric's ownership 14% higher than Yoshida's when Cedric is unlikely to play the first few?

    1. Gregor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      He played an hour last week and has had another week of training, I'm sure he'll be fine.

    2. neilddd
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      is Cedric unlikely to play? citation needed

    3. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Because he will play the first few

  18. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Who is more nailed?

    A) Phillips

    B) Fraser

    1. Limbo
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      A.

    2. Expected Toulouse
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Phillips

  19. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    first RMT of the season

    foster myhill
    stones jones stephens daniels mariappa
    KDB salah zaha Redmond carroll
    kane lukaku rodriguez

    unhappy with rodriguez and still could change jones/stones, wish trippier wasn't injured

  20. Tabbara
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Please RMT
    Foster Elliot
    Kolasinac Danilo Cedric Suttner Rangel
    Salah KDB Willian Ritchie Caroll
    Lukaku Kane Mounie
    Thx

  21. Scotty B
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Cedric (coukd swap to Dawson or downgrade) & RLC (Could swap to other 4.5 or upgrade) are the only two players im unsure on now.
    What do you guys think?

    De Gea
    Cedric Kompany Cahill Kolasanic
    Willian Zaha Eriksen
    Jesus Lukaku Firmino

    Elliot RLC Carroll Long

  22. Ramok
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Hey up mateys, need help as dont know if i should tweak a bit more or leave it. What do you think? RMT

    Foster
    Dawson - Trippier - Francis
    Shelvey - Pogba - KdB - Zaha
    Lukaku - Kane - Firminho

    Subs Elliot, Loftus Cheek, Mee, Lowton

  23. NachoMan
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Kane and Austin/JRod

    Or

    Jesus and Firmino?

  24. RiskyBusiness
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Chances of Francis playing?

    Currently have Daniels + 4.0, want playing defender insted of 4.0

  25. maclrc
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Any changes or gtg?

    Foster (Elliot)
    Daniels - Cedric - B Davies (Mee - Hunemeier)
    Salah - Zaha - Pogba - TC (Oriol Romeu)
    Kane - Lukaku - Jesus

    Consdering

    A: Pogba & Zaha to Kdb &5m
    B: Pogba & Zaha & B Davies to Erkisen & Kola & 5m

    Any improvements welcome given I'm gambling on big 3 up front

    1. Galza
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Jesus>Firm
      Salah>KDB
      Zaha>Pedro

      1. maclrc
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Thanks, fixed on the 3 up front now though. Will probably end in disaster, but will be easy enough to downgrade a striker and strengthen elsewhere if it isn't working

  26. ZeBestee
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Who is punting on the big man Benteke for the first 3?

    1. Pompel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Currently in my team

      1. ZeBestee
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Good, i am contemplating

    2. Crofty92
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Currently in my team

  27. Kevtheotter
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    On to my last decision if you can answer a quick one

    A) Foster Cedric Kolasinac Kompany
    B) DDG Bertrand Danilo Daniels
    C) Forster Bertrand Daniels Kompany

    Cheers

  28. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    I have an answer to the pages flying issue.

    1) Once you get to the maximum of 15 /20 posts whatever it is, you then suspend new comments for 8 minutes and only replies are allowed for that time.

    2) This makes people read through the page and respond more to peoples posts and points allowing more dialogue and thought.

    3) After 8 minutes new posts are allowed and we move onto the next page .

    Good / Bad ? Just an idea.

    1. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Would be great if FFS was built like a proper forum with real threads and topics. You want to discuss Bournemouth defenders? There is a thread just for that.

      1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        I like this format really but if there could be some pause before a new page is allowed to open then that should improve it.

        Like a 10 minute Egg Timer or something, then people will get more considered answers etc. Should stop incessant re-postings also. At the moment it is a like a vicious cycle.

    2. Pep says
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Should be set up like reddit where a topic is made and discussions are had. Stupid RMTS and advice threads are kept separate. Why can't FFS do this ffs

  29. Leeds2116
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Kolasnanic & JWP/Ritchie

    or

    Danilo & Tadic /other 6.5

  30. Afghanistanislas
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    What are Francis' chances of starting the first 2 weeks?

    1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Very, very good.

    2. Smoky Johnson
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Wondering this as well. Played 33/38 PL games last season. Does he have competition on his position this season?

      1. Four Point Hit
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Ake joining permanently doesn't help his chances, however I think he spent most of last season in midfield so I'm hoping he'll stay there. He really ties my defence together.