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9 August 2017 2131 comments
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Romelu Lukaku scores, but Manchester United are comfortably second best to a fluent Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup.

Manchester United 1 Real Madrid 2

Statistics often find themselves the wrong side of damned lies, and so it proved in the UEFA Super Cup.

Man United and Real Madrid had six shots on target each in a match controlled by the Spanish giants pretty much from first whistle to last.

David de Gea had to pull off a number of fine saves, while his opposite number Keylor Navas most assuredly did not, although the mess he made of one effort led to United’s goal.

The Madrid keeper could only parry the influential Nemanja Matic’s shot straight to Romelu Lukaku, who pounced on the rebound to halve a two-goal deficit entirely in keeping with Madrid’s dominance.

The Belgian striker, at 48.7% the most popular player in Fantasy Premier League, had an average night, but his goal will at least keep him and his large Fantasy entourage happy enough ahead of what should be a rather less testing fixture at home to West Ham on Sunday.

Paul Pogba’s owners won’t be in such high spirits, however. The signing of Matic was meant to unleash the attacking threat of the Frenchman, owned by 23.3% of FPL managers, and he did have one fine chance – a free header – that he put too close to Navas. Lukaku’s effort from the rebound was even worse.

In fact, it was Matic himself who stole the show in the United midfield, and his occasional forays forward will have encouraged the 12.1% of FPL managers who have opted for his budget 5.0 charms.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan was an occasionally sparky presence, while Pogba’s decision-making was badly off at times.

The former finishes pre-season with three goals and as many assists, Pogba just the one assist.

And yet the Armenian appears in a mere 6.1% of FPL squads despite costing exactly the same – 8.0 – as his big-name team-mate. In the Sky Sports game, the Frenchman, at 11.2m, is 1.2m pricier. Both will need to improve on Sunday.

Jose Mourinho again opted for a three-man defence, using Matteo Darmian alongside Chris Smalling and Victor Lindelof, with both Eric Bailly and Phil Jones serving European bans.

The 9.0%-owned Lindelof again failed to impress, switching off for Madrid’s opening goal, with Mourinho’s pre-match comments suggesting that the Swede was played out of necessity.

“Lindelof came from a big club with a completely different level in terms of responsibility and I would prefer to give him a little more time but we have no alternative with two players lost to suspension and Marcos Rojo is injured, so we go with Victor.”

The Red Devils defence always looks considerably more secure with Bailly in it and he will surely walk back into the side for the West Ham match. Who his partner will be remains to be seen, although the smart money is surely on Jones, who at 5.0, could well be an early season option given Lindelof’s struggles.

Another well-owned asset, Antonio Valencia (8.2%), put in a strong showing and looked particularly dangerous going forward at wing-back, although Marcelo – never the greatest of defensive full-backs – perhaps helped him out with that.

But one player who did not impress was Jesse Lingard. The United midfielder was used extensively by Mourinho during pre-season and started in a left wing-back role but looked lost.

Forty-five uninspiring minutes later, Mourinho brought on Marcus Rashford in his place and he provided a pace and intensity on the left flank so badly lacking in the first half.

The youngster did fail to take one of the few clear-cut chances United had all night, but he could well have done enough to merit inclusion for Sunday’s season opener. At just 7.5 in FPL (he is a rather steeper 11.1m in Sky), Rashford offers genuine value for money – if he gets consistent pitch-time.

That’s a big if, however, and sacrificing what could be a premium United pick on a player who doesn’t start regularly carries obvious risk.

Despite the defeat, Mourinho was bullish post-match:

“I’m really happy to be with them and I’m going to fight with them all the way, so let’s go on Sunday. Old Trafford is waiting for us and I think Old Trafford has a reason to be behind us.”

He also spoke of his continued experiment with a three-man defence…

“We used pre-season to work and try to improve things we already do and develop things we don’t do. Lots of teams are playing with three defenders and wing-backs and we played like that against Sampdoria and LA Galaxy because it’s something that maybe during the season we are going to do.”

It remains to be seen if we see the system against West Ham on Sunday. Certainly, as a wing-back, Valencia’s stock should be improved, although the role on the left appears to be a problem area. It will also open up another spot for a central defender – another factor that could aid Jones’ cause.

Manchester United: De Gea; Smalling, Lindelof, Darmian; Valencia, Herrera (Fellaini 56), Matic, Pogba, Lingard; (Rashford 46), Mkhitaryan; Lukaku.
Subs not used: Romero, Mata, Martial, Carrick, Blind.

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  1. Dr Ennet
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Good morning all!

    Would love some input on which option to choose:

    1) Kane, KdB, JRod
    2) Jesus, Alli/Eriksen, Firmino

    Cheers! 🙂

    1. Eoin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      2. Simply by virtue of the fact that JRod weakens the first imo. Second has no weak links.

      1. Dr Ennet
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Cheers mate!

    2. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      2

      1. Dr Ennet
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Thanks!

    3. Steve Stiffler
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Kane, KDB, Mounie

      1. Dr Ennet
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Interesting. Something to ponder. Thanks!

    4. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Kane, Eriksen & Firmino. I have them. 🙂

      1. Dr Ennet
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Cheers Doos! Sounds like a good plan. 🙂 Will try to fit them in.

    5. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      2.

      1. Dr Ennet
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Cheers! 🙂

  2. Eoin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Hey folks, how's this looking? Think I need to re-invest to beef up my defence, don't you?

    FOSTER - MYHILL

    STONES - CEDRIC - FRANCIS - MEE - SUTTNER

    KDB - SALAH - ZAHA - PHILLIPS - CARROLL

    KANE - LUKAKU - GABBIADINI

    1. Steve Stiffler
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      small

    2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Good team, but few goals in midfield. No caps, please. 🙂

      1. Eoin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        sorry Doosra - copied and pasted from a notepad I've been looking at for hours!

        (thanks for the feedback btw)

        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          Gabbiadini. Find another. Please? 🙂

          1. Eoin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 22 days ago

            haha will do - for you!

    3. Yordan Letchkov
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Not sure about Stones.
      Could work out if Pep lines up 3 central defenders, but no guarantee imo. Maybe downgrade a 4.5 def to upgrade Stones?
      I do not trust in any City def except Kompany atm.

    4. Dr Ennet
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I reckon it looks good.

  3. Steve Stiffler
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Defence: Daniels, Kola, Cedric

    Should I:
    Daniels > Yoshida
    Kola > Bertrand (+0.5)

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Daniels unless he is in a rotation.

  4. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Are ppl considering Iwobi now?

    1. Eoin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      not for me. Short term move by most I assume

  5. Strchld
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A) Salah and JRod
    B) Firmino and Tadic/Redmond/Fraser

    1. Eoin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      don't like any of the second options there. A, simply because I prefer Salah

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      B with Redmond.

  6. Shaw must go on
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    any 4.0 defender looking to be nailed???

    1. salazar1963
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      loads

      1. Shaw must go on
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        such as??

  7. RiskyBusiness
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Bottomed
    Fabianski Foster
    Bailly Luiz Daniels Suttner 4.0
    Alli Mane Pogba Zaha Gross
    Jesus Alvaro TammyA

    Happiest I've been with a team since release date, please pick it apart

  8. Lyonnais
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A sign of things to come for Ritchie owners? 😉
    https://twitter.com/OfficialFPL/status/895201725333856256

    1. Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Does he even take pens?

      1. Hairy Potter
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Should do, although if Mitro is on the pitch there might be an argument if Mitro wins the penalty.

    2. Hairy Potter
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Scored a great free kick in preseason and hit the post with another free effort last weekend. Shelvey may also want to take free kicks though.

  9. Sanchez Situation In Full
    Arteta
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    https://www.arsenal.com/news/reason-why-alexis-could-miss-two-games

    “He had a little abdominal strain that he caught on Sunday morning in training, before he came to Wembley. He had a scan two days ago and he’s out for a while - we don’t know if it is two weeks or one more week, but he will not be available. We think he will not play at Stoke. For us Alexis Sanchez is a loss, of course. But we have all the other players prepared in pre-season and they are all ready. It can happen in pre-season and anyway, I don’t think I would have included him on Friday night. I don’t think I would have started him. He is focused. Of course when you have treatment on a medical bench, it’s not easy.”

    https://www.arsenal.com/news/team-news-ozil-ramsey-and-mustafi

    “I have plenty of uncertainties about the players who didn’t play against Chelsea. For example Ramsey, Ozil, Mertesacker… and of course Koscielny is suspended. I have players coming back who have not played, like Mustafi. Alexis will not be available for example, so I cannot go into the game with too many uncertainties. I can take a gamble on one, maybe maximum two, but I focus more on the players who had the right number of competitive minutes in recent weeks. We are well prepared and ready for a fight, and of course ambitious as well. I think we have a good level of physical preparation. All our players got a decent number of minutes of good competition, so overall the preparation of the squad looks good. Then we need to transform the quality of the preparation into points and that is of course a pragmatic view, but what matters is we win the next game and start in a strong way, which we didn’t do last year. That’s what we want to achieve this season.”

    1. noquarternt
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Great stuff. Looks like an Iwobi punt could be nice for a week or two.

      Makes me want Lacazette more and more as well.

      1. sindriseagal
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Agree on Iwobi. He´s only 5.5 so there is not much harm done if he is benched but I think he will play the first two games at least.

    2. The Rumour Mill
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      So from this i'm inferring the following team to start v Leicester:

      Cech
      Holding, Monreal, Kolasinic
      Bellerin, Xhaka, Elneny, Oxlade-Chamberlain
      Iwobi, Welbeck
      Lacazette

      1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Where's Walcott?

        1. VS10_
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          Not starting.

        2. The Rumour Mill
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          Walcott could play at RWB I guess, but I would have though Wenger would prefer to have a player there who is a bit more sound defensively

      2. Miami Monkey
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        I doubt Kola starts at LCB. Against Chelsea we had no CBs on the bench that's why. Mustafi, Mertesacker, or Chambers can play there.

        Kola LWB.

        1. The Rumour Mill
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          Ah ok, I guss then that where Wenger refers to "taking a chance on 1 or 2", one of them could be Mustafi? So Mustafi to replace Mertesacker, who may be injured, and even if not, I wouldn't want to play him against the pace of Vardy!

          Back 3 of Mustafi, Holding, Monreal then?

          I really hope Kola is LWB, he's in my team at present! 🙂

    3. Pieterke30
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Sanchez injured until end of August - isnt that a bit too convenient ?

      1. Trading Bear
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        My thoughts exactly, then he'll suddenly return to Match fitness at whichever club he's at come September 1st.

      2. fedolefan
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Very, but arsenal should surely be making more signings like Everton did with all the Lukaku money they were to get. Or maybe the Laca signing is just that. Ugh.

  10. nobwak
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Sorry for the repost -

    A) Kane & Mkhitaryan
    B) Jesus & Alli + 0.5

    1. salazar1963
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Kane + Ali ?

      1. nobwak
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Obviously that would be preferable, but it's also 1.5 over budget. I'm happy with my other picks, just this bit that's bugging me.

    2. supercolso
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      B or find a way to get Jesus and Kane.

    3. Squires FC
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      B

    4. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      B of those 2.

  11. supercolso
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Bottomed out. Apreaciate theadvice, thanks.
    Nearly there now. Last decision.
    a) KDB & Gabbiadind
    or
    b)Jesus & Phillips/Ritchie

    1. Red-United
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      B

    2. Pieterke30
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I have A

    3. nichodinho
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      a

  12. DOGS
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    will JRod start?

    any other ideas regarding a budget forward

    1. You've got red on you.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Some are going for Abraham

    2. Steve Stiffler
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      mounie man

  13. Squires FC
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A. Forster, cedric & trippier/davies
    B. De gea, cedric & yoshida/Stephens
    ?

    1. Lanzini girls just want to …
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Trippier is injured?

  14. Red-United
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Let's talk about Pedro, do you think he is:

    - A good option at 8.0? Better than Willian and Fabregas?
    - A rotation risk, especially when Hazard is back?

    1. salazar1963
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Yes and No

      1. Red-United
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Thanks.

    2. RiskyBusiness
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Maybe rotated when hazard back, but a really good option until then

      1. Red-United
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Thanks, would you say Pedro would be the most likely one to drop to the bench from Chelsea's midfield when Hazard returns then?

        1. RiskyBusiness
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          No I expect willian to drop out and pedro and hazard to play

          1. Red-United
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 22 days ago

            Thanks.

    3. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Yes and No.

      1. Red-United
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Thanks.

  15. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    RMT

    De Gea - Elliot

    Kolasinac - Azpi - Cedric - Daniels - Rangel

    KDB - Pogba - Willian/Zaha - Carroll - Loftus-Cheek

    Kane - Lukaku - J Rodriguez

  16. Positive vibes
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Had a feeling that Iwobi could have some goals or assist in time that Sanchez, Ozil and Ramsey injured.

    Have seen pre season game when he score goals.

    Any thoughts? Currently on Atsu now.

    Thx you.

    Thx you.

    1. noquarternt
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Could be great. You know he's gonna be good for a week or two. Just be prepared to transfer out.

    2. My neck my back my Saed Kol…
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I've just put him in. At that price he's worth a punt when you look at the alternatives. He had a really good game in the community shield as well. Gamble but could pay off.

  17. Bubz
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Choosing between Alli or Eriksen is a right head scratcher

    1. Invincibles
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Alli easy

      1. Bubz
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        Not really that easy though is it

    2. salazar1963
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Care to stick your neck out

    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      alot of love for alli here but I think Eriksen has always been under rated here. I think he's going to get even better this season

      1. Bubz
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        I just feel like Eriksen is guaranteed points. He's too involved in everything not to be. Alli can explode but can also go games with nothing

      2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        This.

    4. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I have Alli but want to go Eriksen. Think he will have the better season this year and do well out of the larger Wembley pitch.

      1. Bubz
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        You see, it's these tables that are making me turn my head towards him, despite originally being dead set on the other one

        1. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 22 days ago

          Well, he's in mine. 🙂

          1. mad_beer ✅
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 22 days ago

            And mine!

    5. Galza
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Puts me right of them. If they'd only made One of them 10 mil it would of made so much easier.

    6. Celt Abroad
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I've got both.

  18. Invincibles
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A) DDG + Jesus
    B) Foster + Lukaku

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      A. More points overall.

  19. footyfootyfootball
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Striker question...

    A). Jesus Kane Gayle
    B). Laca Lukaku Rashford

    In my mind option B looks better but I'm unconvinced by Lukaku and City will score a lot of goals which leans me towards option A.

    Thoughts?

    1. footyfootyfootball
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Also, with every man and his dog going for Lukaku, there's potentially some mileage in being different.

  20. bejzu
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    I have Kane / Kaku / Jesus upfront.

    If you had to downgrade one to upgrade elsewhere who would you downgrade?
    I am considering Gabbiadini.

    Kane - Should be Spurs top scorer
    Kaku - Fixtures + pedigree
    Jesus - I expect city to win the EPL this year... (I own KDB)

    1. noquarternt
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      I wouldn't downgrade them...but KDB down to Salah or something? Or Jesus down?

  21. mad_beer ✅
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Only losers sign up for membership here. :p

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      You get a FT when you sign up for membership

  22. Dogs Dinner
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    RMT Please????

    DDG (Elliott)
    Danilo-Davies-Betrand (Mee, Hunemeier)
    Mane-Carroll-KDB-Ritchie (RLC)
    Gabbi-Kane-Lukaku

  23. unlethal
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A) King + Carroll
    B) Mounie + Ritchie

  24. Gooner Kebab
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Adamant about Lacazette, but please rmt thanks!

    Foster
    Alonso, Francis, Yoshida
    KDB, Ritchie, Fraser, Philips
    Kane, Luk, Laca

    TC, Long, Mee, Myhill.

  25. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    A) Mane & Mounie
    Or
    B) Zaha & Firmino

    A) Alonso & Pedro
    Or
    B) Danilo & Mane

    A) Kdb & Mounie
    Or
    B) Jesus & JWP.

  26. Davido989
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Have .5 spare so might treat myself to Butland.

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Pickford could be better.

    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      thought you said treat

    3. Bubz
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Get Elliot/4.0 instead and treat yourself to 1m spare

  27. Tsssst
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    GENTS!:

    if you had to choose one, who would you pick for a striker spot in a draft team for the first half of the season?

    Andre Gray
    Jay Rodriguez
    Dwight Gayle

  28. Do I Not Like Orange
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    How does this look? Aware that Jones, Mkh & Willian may need attention after 2-3 weeks but feel the bench has enough to cover for a week or two.

    Foster (Elliott)
    Jones Yoshida Alonso (Suttner Lejeune)
    Alli Mkhitaryan Willian Salah (Carroll)
    Lukaku Jesus Abraham

  29. reason17
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Foster - Elliot
    Bailly - Kolasinac - Daniels - Cedric - 4.0
    KDB - Alli - Zaha - Gross - Carrol
    Lukaku - Lacazette - Gabiadini

    1. reason17
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      any thoughts?

      1. Gooner Kebab
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 22 days ago

        DDG+Dawson for me

    2. le flem
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      Pretty good. You could save some money by downgrading Kolasinac or Bailly to a 4.5 if playing 3 at the back, though rotating 4-4-2/ 4-3-3 with gross could be a good option, + expensive dfs free funds easily.

  30. le flem
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 22 days ago

    Think it's done. How is it?

    RMT

    Foster Elliott

    Danilo Ake Cedric Suttner Long

    KDB Mane Zaha Fraser Carroll

    Kane (vc) Lukaku (c) Gabbiadini

    0ITB

    Cheers

    1. Galza
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 22 days ago

      7. Looks ok to me