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The return to domestic action also means it is time to drop in on our partner game Yahoo, who greet us with a big Premier League £8k Saturday contest for the upcoming Gameweek.

This consists of the six Saturday matches that take place from 3 pm onwards, ending with the 5.30 pm clash between Watford and Arsenal at Vicarage Road.

It’s guaranteed to run, costs £5 to enter and is a multi-entry game, allowing you to select up to 10 teams. The top 382 places pay out – there’s a minimum win-back of £10, with £1,000 going to the first place.

Our selected XI will, therefore, focus on this contest, which offers the biggest payout over Gameweek 8.

Driven by Opta data, the Yahoo offering has a scoring system that is ideal for members of our community looking for a Daily Fantasy Sports game.

New players can sign up and claim a free £50 in credit to your account when you deposit just £5. Promo code: Fantasy50.

It’s also worth checking out this Strategy Guide before selecting your XI to give you a better idea of the mechanics of the Yahoo game and those players who are likelier to profit.

My Strongest XI

Ederson – £16
Ben Davies – £17
Marcos Alonso – £16
Kyle Naughton – £13
Kevin De Bruyne – £26
Eden Hazard – £22
Manuel Lanzini – £14
Robbie Brady – £13
Jonathan Hogg – £10
Harry Kane – £29
Alexis Sanchez – £24



As Yahoo allows late swaps up until each kick-off, our listed line-up could be subject to change.

Man City stopper Ederson seeks a fifth successive clean sheet when Stoke City make their way to the Etihad Stadium. Certainly, his prospects of further returns seem promising – the Potters have scored just once in three road trips, while Pep Guardiola’s men have allowed fewer shots in the box (eight) than any side at home. With keepers earning points for wins or draws, as well as double the number of points than defenders for a shut-out, the Brazilian looks worth the outlay.

Spurs’ Ben Davies offers the prospects of points at both ends as Bournemouth roll up to Wembley. The wing-back has already supplied two goals and three assists and his delivery from the flank is ideal for the Yahoo game – Davies is the second top defender for crosses (40). With three clean sheets also accrued, his average of 10.5 points per game is more than any regular defender.

We’re backing Marcos Alonso to return to form as Chelsea make their way to Crystal Palace. Ranked number one defender for attempts on goal (11), he’ll be looking to benefit from his hosts’ problems on the right flank – they’ve conceded 34 chances created on that side of the pitch, compared with just 18 on the left. The Blues will also be confident of earning a clean sheet, considering that Palace have yet to find the net this season.

Kyle Naughton is our Swansea defender of choice for a home clash with a Huddersfield side that have scored just a single goal in their last five Gameweeks. Paul Clement’s side have created 42.9% of their chances down Naughton’s right flank, second only to Burnley’s 45.5% over the first seven Gameweeks. Placed among the top seven defenders for successful tackles (17) and interceptions (16), he goes in search of a fourth clean sheet of the campaign.

With perhaps some concerns over the pitch time of Gabriel Jesus for Man City’s clash against Stoke, we’re turning instead to the security of Kevin De Bruyne. The Belgian has played every minute of City’s home matches this season and, after netting the winner at Chelsea last time out, has produced a goal and three assists in the last four outings. He’s the top-ranked midfielder this season for both successful crosses (19) and chances created (24).

A brace for Belgium over the recent internationals suggests that Eden Hazard is back in top form as Chelsea visit basement-dwellers Crystal Palace. With Alvaro Morata likely to be sidelined for the Selhurst Park encounter, Hazard could retain a central role against a side that is ranked bottom for shots in the box conceded (70) and goals against (17). Seven midfielders in the Yahoo game are more expensive than Hazard’s £22 right now, but a big performance against Roy Hodgson’s side will surely elevate him back into the premium bracket.

We’re keeping our eye on the teamsheets at Turf Moor as West Ham make their way to Burnley. Manuel Lanzini stepped up his injury recovery with a run-out off the bench last time out, and his impact could be key as the Hammers attempt to break down a defence that’s conceded just once in front of their own fans. From the point of Dimitri Payet’s departure last term, the Argentine produced more shots and created more chances than any team-mate.

The Clarets’ Robbie Brady is even cheaper on the budget at £13. Ranked among the top four midfielders for crosses (51) and successful crosses (17), his total of 13 chances created is at least double all but one team-mate. With ten attempts on goal so far, he looks vital for Sean Dyche’s side against a Hammers defence that’s shipped ten goals in four away matches.

Huddersfield’s Jonathan Hogg (£10) could prove a perfect budget enabler for those looking to free up funds. A regular for the Terriers last term, Hogg has finally recovered from injury to start each of the last two matches in central midfield. Granted, he offers little attacking potential but his defensive contribution benefits from the Yahoo scoring system. Seven successful tackles and five interceptions over that pair of matches suggests he could retain a spot on David Wagner’s teamsheet for the trip to Swansea, despite the return to fitness of Danny Williams.

Harry Kane picks himself for Spurs’ clash with Bournemouth. Granted, he’s yet to score at home, but the numbers are very much in his favour – he’s top for shots, efforts in the box and attempts on target this season. Having recorded three goals and an assist in his last two home league outings against the Cherries, the priciest player (£29) in the Yahoo game justifies the outlay.

Alexis Sanchez completes our line-up as Arsenal make their way to Watford. He’s hinted at a return to form, supplying back-to-back assists, and fired eight attempts on goal against Brighton last time out – more than any player in the Gameweek. The Chilean has history against the Hornets, too – he supplied a goal and two assists in the corresponding fixture last season.

This Week’s Contests

The Saturday 3 pm slot – which covers the six matches from that time onwards – offers the four biggest prize contests of the weekend.

All of them are guaranteed to run.

As mentioned above, the Premier League £8k Saturday contest offers the largest pay-out.

There’s the Premier League £2k Saturday, which costs £10 to enter and has a minimum win-back of £20 to the top 60 Yahoo managers. You can submit up to two teams for this contest, with the winner earning £200.

And there are two Premier League £1k Saturday contests to dip into.

One costs £25 to enter, with the top 13 Yahoo managers sharing the prize pool. First place earns you £200, with a minimum win-back of £50.

The other is just £1 to enter and pays out to the top 235 places, with a minimum win-back of £2. You can enter up to 10 teams, with £100 going to the first-placed manager.

Yahoo are also running a Premier League £1,000,000 Perfect Lineup Cup, which takes place over Gameweek 1-19.

It’s free to enter, with £500 in prizes and £50 for the best team every week. Over the 19 Gameweeks, there’s £40k in prizes on offer, with £30k shared among the top 5,000 and £10k going to the winner. The Yahoo Cup also has a “£1,000,000 challenge”, which gives away £1m to any user who selects the perfect line-up in any given Gameweek to score the maximum possible points.

You can open an account and get started immediately.

If you register and deposit £5 or more, Yahoo will also give you a £50 bonus to be used as cash to enter paid contests.

Register here to claim the bonus.

You must be over 18 years of age, resident in the UK, and of legal capacity to register with Yahoo Daily Sports and open an Account. If you sign up, please always play responsibly.

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  1. slippers
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Imagine if Southampton could score

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      My imagination isn't THAT good I'm afraid.

      1. Sánchez
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Try imagining Palace scoring 3

        1. Team Cruel
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Through the season? Should be manageable, a deflected and fluke shot here and there.

        2. fedolefan
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Palace are gonna wreck all those double Chelsea cleanies this week. Only fitting that a team which just can't score, manages to do so against one of the best defenses.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      9 years, 27 days ago

      imagine if Austin at 6.2 became an option

  2. RAFA THE GAFFA
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Need to save 0.3 on WC:

    Drop:
    A. Luiz
    B. Davies
    C. Otamendi

    Pickup:
    1. Monreal
    2. VVD

    Ryan
    Otamendi - Davies - Luiz - Ward
    Sterling - Hazard - Richarlison
    Vardy - Kane - Jesus

    (Elliot / Choupo-M / RLC / Mbemba)

    1. Team Bobcat
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I wpuld say luiz or Otamendi to maguire... but not this week. Do both next week when things may be clearer

    2. Chunnam
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B2

    3. Karan_G14
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B2 I guess.

  3. Ian Davis
    9 years, 27 days ago

    WC:
    Pope / Elliot
    Jones / Davies / ____ / Naughton / Mbemba
    Sterling / Silva / Richarlison / ____ / Carrol
    Kane / ____ / Lukaku

    Which looks best?

    A) Cedric / Choupo / Jesus

    B) Otamendi / Fabregas / Vardy

    C) Stones / Hazard / Abraham

  4. MikeDuff
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Mkhitaryan and Firmino out for-

    A. Hazard Joselu
    B. Ritchie/Richarlison Jesus
    C. Other?

    Have Silva Alli Kane Lukaku. 1FT but happy to hit

  5. MESSINHO
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Bottomed.

    Fabianski
    Davies - Jones - Ward - Simpson
    Alli - Sterling - Ramsey
    Kane (C) - Lukaku - Vardy

    Subs: Elliot - Choupo - Carroll - Hünemeier

    1 FT, 1.2 ITB

    A) Jones -> Otamendi
    B) Jones -> Yoshi/Cedric
    C) Save

    Cheers.

    1. Nanoelektronicar
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A) or C)

    2. MikeDuff
      9 years, 27 days ago

      C

  6. cjhewitt92
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Why no love for Sane when he could play instead of Delph when Augero fit. If pep goes to 5-3-2

    1. Davido989
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Could. If.

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Danilo a threat, also. If he got a little bit more on the minutes front it'd be perfect. . .

    2. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Glaringly obvious issue with your concept.

      Man City don't have 3 centre backs.

      1. Respect My Authoritah
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Pep though

    3. ZeBestee
      9 years, 27 days ago

      1) playing WB is not his natural position
      1) wont get many points from that position

    4. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 27 days ago

      love sane this gw, but too many question marks going forward still. also in that scenario you'd be paying 8mil for a left wing back who doesnt get clean sheets. no thanks!

  7. Tshelby
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Anyone not putting the armband onKane?

    1. Davido989
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Aguero.

      1. Captain Blanks
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Who is Aguero putting it on?

        1. fedolefan
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Jesus.

          1. Captain Blanks
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Christ

    2. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Haz

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        9 years, 27 days ago

        I fancy Jésus. Not sure WTD...

    3. Sánchez
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Adrenaline junkies

    4. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      9 years, 27 days ago

      if king was properly ruled out i'd flirt with the idea of davies

      1. Sims
        9 years, 27 days ago

        u dont think davies could be rested? if he misses out completely its not an issue but a cameo would hurt

        1. Respect My Authoritah
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Rested for who exactly? Son? Son will be playing v Real as Alli is still suspended and he's just come from 2 internationals and a long haul flight, so if anything he's more likely to be rested than Davies.

        2. applebonkers
          • Has Moderation Rights
          9 years, 27 days ago

          guess it's a possibility. would still risk it though, 0 or 90 man for a good 2+ seasons now

  8. Deulofail
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A) Morata > Batshuayi for one week (and back again next week) - Free
    B) Play Cork (WHU), save transfer

    1. Deulofail
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I can't upgrade to Jesus/Laca (0.0 ITB)
      I can't get Vardy (I already own him)
      I don't fancy taking a hit

      :/

    2. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I though you were on WC - play cork then, who knows who gets injured next week, save FT

      1. Deulofail
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Cheers. If I were on a WC I wouldn't be in any predicament haha

  9. Captain Blanks
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Salah on pens would probably be a season keeper right?
    https://twitter.com/FFScout/status/918814926814285824

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Indeed. Will he be though? Klopp talks a lot

  10. Goat
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A) Otamendi, Sane, Joselu
    B)Ward, Carroll, Jesus

    1. Captain Blanks
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A, but maybe Sterling instead of Sane

  11. cjhewitt92
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Monero and Mkhi to Ward and Sane

  12. britlander
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Any news on Ritchie? Haven't seen any notes from Rafa's presser

  13. Sims
    9 years, 27 days ago

    surprised some people still think aguero will start after those comments. a cameo at best

    1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
      9 years, 27 days ago

      How long does it take to score?

      1. Sims
        9 years, 27 days ago

        who said anything about scoring?

        1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
          9 years, 27 days ago

          What's the relevance of your cameo statement then>?

          1. Sims
            9 years, 27 days ago

            youre less likely to do well when u play fewer mins

            1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
              9 years, 27 days ago

              How long does it take to score?

              1. Sims
                9 years, 27 days ago

                u want to pay 11.5 for 1 goal? be my guest

  14. Sedemuda
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Start Naughton or Jones, have Fab in goal?

    1. Sims
      9 years, 27 days ago

      naughton obviously

      1. Sedemuda
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Why's it obvious? Jose doesn't concede much to top six teams. I'm relying on double Swansea.

    2. Team Bobcat
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I would try and play both

  15. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 27 days ago

    mbemba due another price rise! up to 4.6mil!

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 27 days ago

      He hasn't risen at all yet. Gunning for 4.1

      1. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 27 days ago

        *sarcasm

        1. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 27 days ago

          every other day on fplstatistics hes due a rise but never has

        2. Respect My Authoritah
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Ah. Missed that. Move along fellas

    2. MTPockets
      9 years, 27 days ago

      ?

    3. Ode
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I thought he was 4.0

    4. Pasqualinho
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Do you mean 'Mbemba due his first price rise, up to 4.1 mil'?

  16. Rhodes your boat
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Couple of questions
    Do we think kola, jones and Ritchie will all play?

    Can't afford silva but looking at miki to either sterling or sane? Or should I save ft for next gw

    1. MTPockets
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Don't think any have been noted as continued injuries in press conferences.

      1. Rhodes your boat
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Thanks

  17. Rex Lapis
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Kolasinac to Otamendi worth a hit?

    1. FPL Kangaroo
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Kola back in full training today.
      Keep.
      https://twitter.com/charles_watts/status/918815259577765888

      1. Sánchez
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Any news on bib theory?

  18. BIG TONES
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Play one:

    A) Jones (liv)
    B) Mee (WHU)

    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B

  19. john25
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Hey guys, play Foster(lei) or Elliot (sou)?

    Cheers

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Might have to be Elliot since Southampton cannot score

    2. VIRATKOHLI18
      9 years, 27 days ago

      E

  20. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Jesus to Aguero is a transfer waiting to happen.
    Is Kun on WC:

    Logical
    Stupid
    Risky

    1. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      stupid

      planning your squad around getting him in is logical

    2. @persecuted_by_mods
      9 years, 27 days ago

      All three

    3. Sims
      9 years, 27 days ago

      stupid

    4. Joggers Nipple
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Logical if you dont mind him maybe not playing for just this week

    5. MTPockets
      9 years, 27 days ago

      On a wc think I'd get Lukaku and assess the choice later.

      1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
        9 years, 27 days ago

        (K)ane Kaku Kun currently

        1. Transient Anus
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Damn the rest must be ugly

          1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Beauty is in the eye of the beholder:

            02ITB for Cedric to Jones.

            Elliot 3.9
            Alonso Bavies Cedric Martina Mbemba
            Silva Sterling Choupa RLC Tarrol
            Kun Kaku Kane

            1. Transient Anus
              9 years, 27 days ago

              It's actually quite good

              1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
                9 years, 27 days ago

                Cheers lad! Reasonably flexible

        2. MTPockets
          9 years, 27 days ago

          Jesus + £itb. Too much money for bench/cameo.

          1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
            9 years, 27 days ago

            Seems reasonable mate

        3. Captain Blanks
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          9 years, 27 days ago

          :O Wow. Nice frontline

    6. VIRATKOHLI18
      9 years, 27 days ago

      stupid

      1. Sedemuda
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Just get Kuku in for this week and funds covered

    7. Transient Anus
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Logical. If you want him in your team get him. Just accept the cameo/no show this week then watch the goals roll in while you roll your ft next week.

      1. Eden ACCOUNT CLOSED
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Exactly my logic

    8. kysersosa
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      I think he wont feature till Tuesday.

    9. Freddo
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Risky

  21. McSauce
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A) Lukaku --> Jesus
    B) Mykhi --> Sane
    C) Mykhi --> Sterling
    D) Save FT

    I have Silva.

    1. VIRATKOHLI18
      9 years, 27 days ago

      D

  22. Boetticher
    9 years, 27 days ago

    A. Pope, Yoshida (or Cedric?), Silva; or
    B. Forster, Ward, Sane?

    My other keeper is Elliot. Forster has served me well so far, but has just four excellent fixtures next. Pope has a longer run of good fixtures.

    1. Joggers Nipple
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A

      1. Boetticher
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Thank you, and what's your take on Yosh vs Ced? Everyone only writes about Ced, but Yosh gets the bonus.

  23. Sánchez
    9 years, 27 days ago

    How is morata only at -72% now?

    1. Pasqualinho
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Orange to red flag - drop threshold changes.

      1. Sánchez
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Ffs. I sold him pending that fall now my rival gets to milk it and wait till last minute

        1. Pasqualinho
          9 years, 27 days ago

          I wouldn't worry - he'll still probably drop.

    2. Holmes
      9 years, 27 days ago

      New buyers...

      1. Sánchez
        9 years, 27 days ago

        No. Three red arrows on fplstats. Getting sold still. Think above has the right reason

    3. Jarnathan
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Yeah, that was weird

    4. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Dunno. The whole price structure is, and has been, a joke. 🙁

    5. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Flag change to red?

  24. VIRATKOHLI18
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Things getting serious, i thought it was a joke -
    Is Salah on pens?

  25. jmcclory123
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Trying to make a valid argument to pick one of the city midfielders

    Of the available 630 minutes across the 7 PL games so far,

    Silva has played 95.5%
    Sané has played 50.2%
    Sterling has played 61.4%

    In terms of points per minute

    Silva = 0.07 ppm
    Sané = 0.12 ppm
    Sterling = 0.09 ppm

    Realistically this weekend we will be looking at a forward line up something like this

    Sané---Silva---De Bruyne---Sterling
    ---------------De Jesus------------

    In my opinion Pep has hinted that Aguero will feature against Stoke but as a sub, Since De Jesus was playing in South America early in the week I think he is the most likely to make way for Aguero around the 60-70min mark.

    Long term Sané, Sterling, De Jesus and Aguero will be chopping and changing in Pep's rotation plans. For a nailed on points scorer Silva seems to be the best option for me.

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 27 days ago

      What is De Jesus?

      1. jmcclory123
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Gabriel Fernando de Jesus (born 3 April 1997), commonly known as Gabriel Jesus (Portuguese pronunciation: [ɡabɾiˈew ʒɛˈzus]), is a Brazilian professional footballer who plays as a forward for Premier League club Manchester City and the Brazil national team.

      2. Ode
        9 years, 27 days ago

        His last name actually is De Jesus.

      3. McSauce
        9 years, 27 days ago

        He shagged KDB

    2. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Also, don't forget about Bernardo Silva. Could easily replace any player

      1. Freddo
        9 years, 27 days ago

        He's been playing him in the CL though.

    3. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Well, I think you are overthinking it. 🙂

      I have both Sterling, for many weeks, and Silva, now. Very excited and happy about that.

      PS I think ppm are bunk. 😉

  26. VIRATKOHLI18
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Getting Kola in. He is nailed right?

    1. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Only if he isn't injured. Amazed his ankle wasn't broken when Luiz went into him last month, so he appears to be very 'solid', so I am keeping him.

  27. JasonG123
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Keep or ditch Lukaku on WC?

    1. VIRATKOHLI18
      9 years, 27 days ago

      ditch

      1. The Hindu Monkey
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Why? For who?

        He can be moved to Aguero next week...

        1. Prison Mike
          9 years, 27 days ago

          This

  28. MattyW
    9 years, 27 days ago

    hi all .. captain which one
    a) Hazard
    b) Vardy
    c) Sane

    1. VIRATKOHLI18
      9 years, 27 days ago

      B

    2. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Vardy

    3. Freddo
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A.

  29. The Hindu Monkey
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Walker or Azpi. Looking long term really. At least next 6 or 7.

    1. VIRATKOHLI18
      9 years, 27 days ago

      AZ

    2. Doosra - ☭BowenOfRice☭
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      9 years, 27 days ago

      Tricky. Too tricky for me. Too expensive for me, at this stage of the game, anyway. 🙂

  30. james 101
    9 years, 27 days ago

    Chance of these starting?

    A. Jones
    B. Kola

    1. Respect My Authoritah
      9 years, 27 days ago

      High

    2. jmcclory123
      9 years, 27 days ago

      A 95%
      B 50%

      1. james 101
        9 years, 27 days ago

        Kola to otamendi for a hit?