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4 January 2018 5309 comments
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The final round of festive fixtures comes to its conclusion at Wembley Stadium as Tottenham Hotspur and West Ham play the second match of their double Gameweek 22.

Much to our collective relief, Harry Kane returns to the hosts’ starting line-up after producing just a single point from his 22 minutes off the bench at Swansea on Tuesday night.

It’s fair to say that the Fantasy Premier League hopes of many managers rely on the Spurs striker this evening.

Not only is he the top captain pick for the Gameweek (24.2%), a hefty 121,000+ Triple Captain chips have been wielded on Kane in light of back-to-back hat-tricks in his previous two starts.

The allure of a double Gameweek has also boosted in interest in Spurs midfield trio Son Heung-min, Christian Eriksen and Dele Alli. All three join Kane on the teamsheet and are also among the top 13 armband picks for Gameweek 22.

The top transfer target for Gameweek 22, with 498,000+ new owners, Son has scored in five of Tottenham’s last six at Wembley, totalling 57 points over those matches.

Eriksen and Alli, meanwhile, bagged an assist and goal respectively in Tuesday’s win at Swansea to continue their improved form.

The Dane has supplied points in six of his last seven outings, while Alli has two goals and four assists in his previous three.

At the back, Ben Davies earns successive starts for the first time since Gameweek 16 as Danny Rose misses out with a knee complaint again.

The big news for the Hammers is that Marko Arnautovic is sidelined with a minor hamstring problem.

Drafted in by over 368,000 for his pair of fixtures, he ends double Gameweek 22 on five points, having earned the assist for Andy Carroll’s late winner against West Brom.

Carroll’s two goals in the Baggies’ clash isn’t enough to keep his role in the XI, though – he drops to the bench as Chicharito leads the line instead.

The Mexican and Manuel Lanzini – who has supplied four assists in his previous five – carry the main threat to a defence that’s looking for their tenth clean sheet of the season.

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  1. Foozeball
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    When is Arnautovic back? On WC and wondering if I should replace him

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Could be GW23. Keep until nearer the deadline.

    2. Chazz69
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Why do you him ??

      1. Foozeball
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        He's been pretty solid in the last few GWs. Better than Kane this week

  2. Qaiss
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    gosh it is tempting to WC and just use free hit for the DGW's

  3. The Legend Squad
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    It’s annoying that if you have 2FT before using free hit, you only get 1FT after. Doesn’t make sense. The whole idea is that after the free hit your team goes back to normal... I had 2FT before, give me 2FT now!

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      You took your hits for free.

      1. The Legend Squad
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Makes sense. But surely this makes it far less valuable to use the free hit chip when you have 2FTs saved up...

    2. badgerboy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      To be fair you sacrifice 1 FT to make up to 15 transfers. Thinks that's a fair trade.

    3. HashAttack
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      If your playing your free hit you really should plan it ... one reason why I played mine was the flexibility it gave me in GW21 and well as GW22 .... it's just unfortunate that things didn't pan out better

      This very much meant going into GW22 without the spare hit being available!

  4. pricycle
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Double Game W*nk

  5. I Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Happy enough with my FH team coming out 26 points better than I would've done without the chip. Could've been better, could also have been a lot worse.

    1. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      i'm up 40. happy enough but yeah could have been a whole pile better. very frustrating

    2. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      How many did you score?

      Look a couple of posts down.

  6. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Looking forward to the August/January theories on Kane!

    1. JONALDINHO
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Never sell Kane! People shouldve learned this after his hat tricks. His last game he got 17 pts. At home to a strong west ham defense he was never gonna haul

      1. Chazz69
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        I've sold him

      2. Chazz69
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Kane after illness or injury is poor

        1. Rainer
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          He wont still be ill come next GW.

      3. Scoring freely
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks captain hindsight, you most be flying high in fpl this year.

        1. Scoring freely
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          *must

    2. Chazz69
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      August ? Wait a while i'd say

  7. Monkey Hanger
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Took a -12, then decided to use the FH chip.
    With FH scored 71pts
    If I hadn;t it would of been 57-12 = 45pts
    +26pts got to have been worthwhile?

    1. FFSbet.com
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Yes indeed

    2. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Can only compare to the time you would use in the future.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        and both teams next week etc.

    3. circusmonkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      So you got your 12 points back?

      1. BrutalLogiC
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        yes

      2. Monkey Hanger
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Yes.

    4. BrutalLogiC
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I'd gladly swap the FH chip for 26 points

    5. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      i'm on 80, would have been 40. happy enough

    6. DaveZubie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I'd take double figures for any of the chips

    7. HashAttack
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      similar .. ended up on 71 ....
      Your team's not linked, how did you do in gw21 where you didn't need to be holding redundant TOT / WHU players?
      That result can all be considered part of the FH benefit

      1. Monkey Hanger
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        53pts.

  8. mrwinner
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Those with Son - are you planning on selling any time soon? Think there are probably better options like Lingard for much cheaper

    1. F4L
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      why sell

      1. Chazz69
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Exactly why sell SON ????

    2. MTPockets
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Depends on Arnautovic.

      • Frozen flying mammoth
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        I already did Richarlison> Lingard this gameweek so keeping Son for now.

      • zag
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        That’s what I’m thinking. Shipping Arnie might take priority though.

        1. circusmonkey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Arnie might just be a bit worn out. Wait 8 days. Too much knee jerk on here.

      • Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Did Rich>Lingard +0.3m 3 weeks ago

      • Midlands Saint73
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Mahrez

      • Dreaming of glory
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Gets another game or 2 anyway. Has shown before he can haul and score regularly as a regular starter

        1. Flynny
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          I'll be losing either Arnie or son for lingard.

          If moyes says Arnie is fit I'll keep him and ditch son.

          West ham have better fixtures and think Kane is enough spurs.

    3. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Why are you all so surprised? Billy said Kane would get a hat-trick. So the blank was obvious.

    4. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Is Christmas over? 🙁

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Take the hat off.

        1. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          🙁

    5. The Big Fella
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Massive 9 points for my triple captained captain this week. They could be make or break come the end of the season.

    6. JONALDINHO
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Who to sell for Lingard?
      Salah Coutinho Sterling Son Arnie
      Gonna wait for more news but who would you sell atm?Thx!

      1. walkman666
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        No one

        1. JONALDINHO
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Utd will trash Stoke and have no captaincy options.

          1. walkman666
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            I don’t think lindgard is necessary. Arnie if you must, and of course, Coutinho if he leaves Liverpool.....but wait on that intel.

      2. Kiwivillan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Coutinho if he leaves or Arnie

      3. Royal5
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Arnautovic surely

        1. JONALDINHO
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          He has the fixtures and form. If fit id keep. Also have to consider cost. Downgrading Coutinho/Son would help get Alonso/Mahrez in future

      4. Dreaming of glory
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Couts. U have salah and couts looks to be off

    7. Deus
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Freaking Sin captainers everywhere, when you try to play not risky with Kane (c)... so frustrating in mini leagues

      1. Foozeball
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        I feel you >_>

    8. Homo Neanderthalensis
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Kane blanked against Newcastle, Swansea, Burnley, Bournemouth, Crystal Palace, Watford, Brighton...

      It was written in the stars to blank against West Ham!

    9. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Son gets a reprieve for couple of weeks. Arnie>Pogba double up with Lingard vs Stoke

      1. Frozen flying mammoth
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah I've got them two for Stoke...could be tasty

    10. Jam0sh
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Through to GW23 in FPL Cup 8)

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Congrats!

      2. Rainer
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Same, not long to go now 😆

        1. Jam0sh
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Well done Rainer, see you in the final 😉

      3. Jay_
          8 years, 1 month ago

          I got knocked out by 1 point. He had Son and Bellerin. He also benched Davies but gets him.

          1. Jam0sh
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Uff tough one that

        • _figu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Take it down!

        • Jam0sh
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Cheers guys!

        • circusmonkey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          I lasted six weeks in the cup once. Like getting to fa cup final.

      4. TaiwanHC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        WC this team?

        De Gea - Speroni
        Otamendi - Christensen - Cresswell - Ogbonna - Long
        Eriksen - Salah - Sterling - Arnie - Loftus
        Kane - Morata - Quaner

        Thanks!

        1. Oven Glover
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          No

        2. Goalosaurus
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Not a bad team, WC would seem like a waste

        3. Sandy Ravage
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          I'd be tempted to save FT

        4. Dreaming of glory
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Ericksen > pog
          Morata > aguero

      5. Jay_
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Wish I never have looked on FFF predicted rank at 0-1

          1. TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Outside 10K 🙁

            1. Jay_
                8 years, 1 month ago

                I was at 31k before Son G, 52k now. Most agonising goal ever for me in FPL and RL.

          2. Dacra
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            73 (-8)

            Pleased, but guessing anyone who did worse has a better team going forward!

            1. MTPockets
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Nicely diplomatic. Good work.

            2. che
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Feared the worst when I saw that teamsheet. All the big guns Playing for Spurs, no Arnie for me and only others I had were Kane (c) and Adrian. Not bothered too much about Kane blank as plenty others had him and plenty more TCd him. Decided not to overload or take hits with the two day turnaround. Pretty pleased all things considered. Looking like 53 all out so not too bad. Now sit back and watch all those Spurs rage transfers just like last night

              1. Desperately Seeking Dusan
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                This

            3. GHB
              • 15 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Coutinho likely to drop tonight?

            4. Red Card Rockets
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              6 straight GWs green arrows, up 1.8 million spots.

              1. the snazzy viking
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                5 red arrows in 6 for me (the only green was 42k to 41k)

                Down from an inital 18k to 90k

            5. Cheapskate
              • 8 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              84 points. The below 9m team is unstoppable

              1. TorresMagic™
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • Has Moderation Rights
                • 16 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                2nd team alert!

              2. Sterling is £11Mill..…
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                lol u have Gayle, lets see where that gets you

                1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  actually its pretty impressive tbh, well done

                2. Cheapskate
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  The under 9 mil forwards leave a lot to be desired

                  1. Sterling is £11Mill..…
                    • 8 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    yep train wreck surprised your playing 2 up front or is that just temporary

                    1. Cheapskate
                      • 8 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      yeah formation change weekly depending on fixtures. Always difficult benching dilemmas.

            6. Los Perros Calientes
              • 8 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Worst. Captain. Ever.

              1. Homo Neanderthalensis
                • 12 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Kane? Lol

            7. Desperately Seeking Dusan
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              1) community and the FPL team don’t pick your team. Take responsibility.
              2) massive hindsight to say shouldn’t have captained Kane. I captained and with the same information available at the time, I’d do so again. There was a decent chance he wasn’t going to start but the man was on a phenomenal run of form and even half an hour vs Swans could have seen a load of goals and morally he had an assist. He struggled tonight but who would you have captained if Kane was already in your team? Inconsistent Alli?

              1. Andy1
                • 16 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                100% agree

              2. SADIO SANÉ
                • 10 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Them fixtures were too good to turn down for me, he could have easily returned in both games, even with reduced game time. Obviously annoying but could happen to any player in a DGW. At least he didn't miss a pen too 😀

              3. Frogman
                • 16 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Part of the reason I brought in Aguero over Kane, if I had him I'd have to captain him and thought Erikson was a better shout as more likely to play both games, he did alright but not great

              4. Dino
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Didn't buy Kane as didn't see the value in him and captained the indomitable Son

              5. HashAttack
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                It's a risk we had to take ... it would have been OR death you have missed out on the potential points bonanza
                Was also very happy with the full 180 minutes from both Son and Alli

                1. BUZZBOMB ♡
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  You had to weigh up the risk though. I didnt want to burst up a team that had gone from 400k to 70k over christmas. Factor in that i couldnt get Kane in for Morata in 2 free transfers, plus not wanting West Ham despite fixtures coupled to the Kane illness and an aversion to Alli this season, nothing floated my boat other than Cout to Eriksen (c).

                  I couldve been burned completely - I remember a QPR late DGW 5 or 6 seasons ago when I was, but this one didnt feel right. Easy to say afterwards I suppose.

            8. the snazzy viking
              • 9 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              renamed my team to "Red Arrow United"

              🙂

            9. Jebiga
              • 13 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Will you sell Lingard if he blanks against stoke ?

              1. Royal5
                • 14 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Why? Great value.

            10. southernpacific
              • 14 Years
              8 years, 1 month ago

              Would you buy Alonso early if it means you can’t afford him by the next gw

              1. MTPockets
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Tough call. Chelsea play FA cup 6th, EFL vs arsenal 10th, then PL on 13th.

                • HashAttack
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  2 games between is a worry .. but 24% of people have and * happens anyway ... it's worth the risk (even if he misses the LEI game which might not be cs)

              2. AllINeedIsCoffee
                • 11 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                RMT - Wildcarding. Would love your input. One price increase and I'll miss the train so don't feel like waiting.

                Foster - Elliot
                Azpilicueta - Otamendi - Smalling - Dawson - Cedric
                Hazard - KDB - Pogba - Sterling - Maxim
                Morata - Rodriguez - Murray
                0.0itb.

                Rodriguez and Murray decent value picks for the next month and a half. I'd like to have Speroni instead of Elliot but I already own Elliot and can't afford the 0.1 extra on Speroni. I won't need Cedric until GW 25 so not really worried of his injury. Appreciate any feedback! 🙂

                1. the snazzy viking
                  • 9 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Yeah I'd definitely wildcard that team

                2. Andy1
                  • 16 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Not sure on foster, Elliot, maxim and your 2 strikers

                  I'd downgrade one of maxim, Rodriguez, Murray into a cheapie and upgrade elsewhere
                  And maybe even one cheaper defender

                  1. AllINeedIsCoffee
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    If I sell Murray for a 4.7-4.9 that leaves me with 6.3m-6.5m for the third striker there is no one under 7m that's expected to deliver more points than Rodriguez or Murray in the next 2 months or so, expect for Wood who's expected to deliver just a not more but certainly not worth 6.3m.

                    Maxim is super value after next GW, have to be suicidal to not use him in the upcoming set of fixtures.

                    I appreciate the feedback, but right now I'm just in a blindspot where I can't seem to find any alternative players without being pointed at them.

                3. Andy'81
                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  Have to agree with Snazzy, having a West Brom only playing GK is bad but doubling up with Dawson is worse.

                  Smalling - not sure he walks straight back into the team after back to back CS's (would much prefer Jones)

                  Cedric has to go - never take a red flagged player on a WC even if he's due back soon.

                  Don't think you need to double up with the Chelsea attack so I'd take one over the other )preferably Haz and change Morata to Kane/Aguero)

                  The mids do look good but it needs more Salah.

                  So yeah start again I think

                  1. AllINeedIsCoffee
                    • 11 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    Would you like this better?

                    De Gea - Elliot
                    Alonso - Azpilicuta - Otamendi - Dawson - Mbemba
                    Hazard - Salah - Pogba - Sterling - Maxim
                    Vardy - Murray - Rodriguez
                    0.0itb.

                    I think Kane and Aguero are not justifiable right now with their price tags.

                    1. Andy'81
                      • 8 Years
                      8 years, 1 month ago

                      I'd prefer it to the above team, I do however strongly disagree to going without Kane/Aguero if you're going with only the one marquee forward.

                      1. AllINeedIsCoffee
                        • 11 Years
                        8 years, 1 month ago

                        Hazard is going to outscore them all from this point in my opinion, with the matches remaining.

                        You truly think it's more important to have Kane or Aguero than having ~2 very strong midfielders instead and value picks forward that have more estimated points than similarly priced midfielders?

                        1. Andy'81
                          • 8 Years
                          8 years, 1 month ago

                          I know he's coming off a bad DGW but Kane's just hit back to back hat tricks and Aguero looks likely (I guess we shouldn't discount Pep's sometimes mysterious rotation antics.) to be the sole attacking forward for the highest scoring team in the division, honestly can't see it being a good idea to go without at least one of them for the immediate short term fixtures.

                          1. AllINeedIsCoffee
                            • 11 Years
                            8 years, 1 month ago

                            I'm not concerned with Kane's blank, I've had Kane in Fantasy since he started playing in the EPL, through thick and thin. I'm only thinking about the remaining fixtures and I believe Hazard is going to outscore them all from this point.

                            If I take Kane or Aguero I'll have to get rid of 2 of the strong midfielders and I might be wrong, but I don't think it's worth it.

              3. LIARS POKER
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 1 month ago

                Who scores more against Everton and Southampton

                A) Son
                B) Eriksen

                1. Jebiga
                  • 13 Years
                  8 years, 1 month ago

                  keep them both i reckon. united offence is shete if you swaping for lingard or pogba..

                  1. LIARS POKER
                    • 9 Years
                    8 years, 1 month ago

                    Need to downgrade one to get Alonso in