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Having discussed the basic principles of rotation in our introductory article shortly after the Premier League fixture list was released, we now put the idea into practice.

Our first article on rotating pairs looks at Bournemouth and Crystal Palace, whose fixtures dovetail perfectly throughout 2018/19 and offer an unbroken run of home matches between now and the end of the season – barring postponements and rearrangements, of course.

The pair recorded a miserable seven clean sheets on home soil between them last season, but with the fixtures falling the way they have – and given both clubs’ favourable starts in the first few months of the season – many Fantasy managers will nevertheless be rolling the dice on the two sides’ previously porous defences.

As well as examining the various rotation options in the backline, we will also look at any possible budget/mid-price assets in midfield and attack that could be interchanged in the same way.

The Fixtures

Although the “perfect rotation” extends all the way to Gameweek 38, in keeping with previous articles of this type we will not look far beyond the first half of the season. Gameweek 20 is the last round in which the first Wildcard can be deployed so we will take this as the cut-off point for this rotation analysis.

As before, we will split the 20 fixtures into two banks of matches.

Gameweeks 1-10

CDF, whu, EVE, SOU, LEI, NEW, CRY, WLV, SOU, ful

Gameweeks 11-20

MUN, new, ARS, BUR, HUD, whu, LEI, BHA, CDF, CHE

Although an uninterrupted sequence of home matches can be achieved by rotating Bournemouth and Palace assets, we have opted for an “easier” away fixture on four occasions. The home fixtures on offer in Gameweeks 2, 10, 12 and 16 are against one of the “big six” clubs, so in these instances we have gone with the other team’s away match.

The fixtures in Gameweeks 1-10 are particularly appealing. An away match against West Ham United in Gameweek 2 might prove to be the trickiest test for our budget defenders and goalkeepers, although the Hammers did have the joint-worst defence in the Premier League last season and the fixture offers hope for any budget Bournemouth midfielder or forward we may be considering.

Gameweek 11 might be the time to bail out of this combination, or else find another Premier League club to latch onto as part of a three-way rotation – more of which later. The international breaks tend to be popular periods of downtime in which FPL managers deploy their first Wildcards and any Fantasy boss using this chip in the October break before Gameweek 9 might be tempted to jettison their Palace and Bournemouth assets at this point.

All in all, though, just three encounters – all of which are at home – with sides who finished in the top six in 2017/18 is not a terrible sequence of fixtures.

In Practise

Charlie Daniels (£4.5m) and Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£4.0m)

While the likes of Lee Peltier and Jan Bednarek were among the first names to catch the eye in the £4.0m bracket after the FPL price list release, Palace’s Aaron Wan-Bissaka has quickly established himself as an excellent option in the bargain bin of defenders.

The 20-year-old product of the Eagles’ academy has started all three of Palace’s pre-season friendlies so far and looks, at this early stage, to be Roy Hodgson’s favoured choice at right-back ahead of the more experienced Joel Ward (£4.5m).

While Patrick van Aanholt (£5.5m) is an alluring candidate with his undoubted attacking threat (the Dutch full-back scored two goals in the 6-1 win over Halmstads and was on target on five occasions in the final ten Gameweeks of 2017/18), a saving of £1.5m on a fellow Palace full-back is a significant one.

Wan-Bissaka started six matches in a row between Gameweeks 28 and 33 (and seven overall) last season. During that half-dozen run of matches, the young defender didn’t have a single effort on goal and created only two chances. That last figure was one more than van Aanholt recorded during the same period, but the former Sunderland full-back had eight attempts on goal and ten penalty box touches (Wan-Bissaka had one).

Owners of Wan-Bissaka would, then, not expect anywhere near the amount of attacking returns that van Aanholt promises. Palace’s defensive form at the end of 2017/18 offers hope for Wan-Bissaka’s clean sheet prospects, however: only Liverpool (five) kept more shut-outs in the last eight Gameweeks than Palace (four).

Bonus point magnet Mamadou Sakho (£5.0m) and James Tomkins (£4.5m) are pricier alternatives to Wan-Bissaka, should the youngster’s first-team place be in any doubt come Gameweek 1.

A drop in price from £5.0m partly explains why Charlie Daniels is currently the third-most popular FPL asset in defence. The Bournemouth left-back is available at £4.5m for a reason, though: the Cherries registered a joint-worst six clean sheets in the Premier League last season. Daniels was three goals, four clean sheets and ten bonus points down on his returns in 2016/17, too.

Why so many Fantasy managers continue to have faith in the Cherries’ full-back is that his underlying attacking statistics remain consistently high. Daniels recorded 30 key passes last season, while only five defenders had more touches in the final third than Daniels in 2017/18. The 31-year-old defender also performed better than the rest of the Bournemouth backline on the Bonus Points System, registering a better minutes-per-Baseline BPS average than his defensive colleagues.

Steve Cook and Simon Francis, who are also priced at £4.5m, are alternatives to Daniels and are owned by less than 1% of FPL managers. Cook scored on two occasions last season and featured in the top ten of centre-backs with the most attempts on goal (22). Francis, meanwhile, created only three fewer chances for his team-mates than Daniels and had a higher cross completion rate than the Bournemouth left-back.

Nathan Ake, meanwhile, would appear pricey at £5.0m, certainly playing for a team who recorded a clean sheet at a rate of less than one every six matches.

Asmir Begovic (£4.5m) and Vicente Guaita/Wayne Hennessey (£4.5m)

An alternative rotation pair would be the two clubs’ respective goalkeepers. The immediate issue with this approach is that we are not 100% sure which goalkeeper Hodgson favours as his first choice between the sticks. Both Guaita and Hennessey have featured in pre-season and, although Palace’s remaining friendlies may make things clearer in that regard, the Eagles have for several seasons now chopped and changed in goal; the last Palace goalkeeper to start more than 30 matches in a season was Julian Speroni in 2014/15.

While Begovic was an ever-present last season, he is a far from convincing option between the sticks: as well as recording only six clean sheets, his save success rate was the lowest of the 14 Premier League goalkeepers with 30+ appearances to their name.

Save points are a key attraction of a £4.5m-rated goalkeeper. Both clubs’ custodians did enough to register roughly one point per match last season, with Begovic averaging 2.97 saves per start and Hennessey/Speroni averaging 3.21 for Palace. Jack Butland’s league-best average of 4.14 saves per match puts those figures in context, however.

Three-Way Rotation

For those Fantasy managers dabbling in three-way rotation, there are a number of options available to help plug the troublesome Gameweeks.

Brighton and Hove Albion’s fixtures are fairly wretched for the first quarter of the season, but the Seagulls’ calendar eases up after the second international break.

Chris Hughton’s side are at home to Wolverhampton Wanderers, Leicester City and Everton in Gameweeks 10, 13 and 20, although the visit to Goodison Park in Gameweek 11 could prove as tricky as Bournemouth’s home match against Manchester United. Lewis Dunk and Shane Duffy are both available at £4.5m, offering as they do a considerable goal threat as well as clean sheet potential (Brighton kept ten shut-outs last season). Goalkeeper Mathew Ryan is also available at this price.

Leicester City’s fixtures, meanwhile, are a sea of “blue” in Gameweeks 2, 10, 11, 12, 13 and 20. The Foxes, however, are somewhat lacking in defensive assets below £5.0m this season, with all of their predicted starters (at this stage) in the mid-price bracket. An injury or two could though pave the way for Christian Fuchs and Wes Morgan, both priced at £4.5m, to start.

Attacking Rotation

With both clubs’ main assets up front (Wilfried Zaha, Christian Benteke, Josh King, Callum Wilson and Jermain Defoe) costing £6.0m or above, some Fantasy managers will deem their forwards too expensive a proposition to rotate. Given that Palace and Bournemouth have favourable starts away from home too, this would be a risky strategy.

Alexander Sorloth (at £5.0m, very much in the “rotatable” bracket) has one goal and three assists to his name for Palace in pre-season, though is still expected to be a bit-part player at best when the Premier League campaign gets underway. The big Norwegian striker’s below-par performance in the win over Oxford United would perhaps kill the Fantasy community’s collective hopes of a run in the first team for the budget forward.

The likes of Jordan Ibe (£5.5m), Ryan Fraser (£5.5m) and new signing David Brooks (£5.0m) are names to watch in pre-season for Bournemouth. With Junior Stanislas injured, the Cherries’ budget midfielders can stake a claim in the wide positions ahead of their appealing opening fixtures.

Fraser’s creativity statistics are particularly noteworthy, with the diminutive Scottish international posting a better minutes-per-chance created average last season than all of his midfield comrades.

Andros Townsend (£6.0m) would be an excellent rotation partner for Fraser – particularly if the Palace winger is played out of position as a striker, as he was towards the end of last season – although again, most FPL managers would baulk at forking out a collective £11.5m for a fourth and fifth midfielder.

All in all, then, rotation in midfield and attack looks like too expensive a proposition for Palace and Bournemouth assets – unless a budget gem like Jason Puncheon (£4.5m) suddenly rolls back the years in pre-season and presents us with a viable cut-price option.

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  1. amit1964
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    hiii
    iffff pedro will play every week,will he be a better pick then jota?
    thank's

    1. Warby84
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Jota currently unproven in PL he may not adapt as quick as everyone on here seems to think..

    2. Fantastisk
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Pedro essential. If he can do it on a warm balmy Monday night in Perth he can do it anywhere.

      1. Jackie Moon
        • 7 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Mate I live in Perth and it was bloody wet and cold yesterday! Pedro did look one of the better players though and if he nails down that wing role I’ll be getting him!

        1. Fantastisk
          • 8 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          I lived there when I was young, never remember it raining haha

          1. Jackie Moon
            • 7 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Chelsea brought it with them from London I presume! Haha. Nice and sunny again today!

    3. Lone Wolf FPL
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Yes

  2. Reuser
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Irrespective of fixtures, which teams do you think have the weakest defence at the start of the season? i.e. most susceptible to conceding 3+ goals in a game?

    I'm thinking: Bournemouth, Southampton and Watford?

    Fancy Wolves and Cardiff to be able to keep it tight, but probably plenty of uncertainty about Fulham's squad at the moment.

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      cardiff/fulham/hudd

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        This, followed by Bournemouth.

    2. Fantastisk
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Wolves, Cardiff, Bournemouth.

    3. Chandler Bing
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Cardiff, Fulham, Bournemouth, Newcastle

    4. SW6
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Bournemouth Cardiff Fulham

    5. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Can’t ignore fixtures if you’re just looking to the start of season. The team likely to concede the most during the early period then are Newcastle and Huddersfield.
      With Fulham and West Ham a close second.

    6. Respect My Authoritah
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Bournemouth and Southampton by a long shot.

      Not sure about Watford, but probably will be down there. I think Cardiff will struggle quite a bit - hardly any of their squad seem PL quality to me

    7. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Thanks all - Bournemouth, Cardiff and Fulham seem popular choices.

      The reason for asking was I wanted to validate some of the assumptions/ratings on the ticker. In general terms, the ticker seems to see Huddersfield as the worst defensively. All of the promoted sides (including Wolves) are right down the lower end - as are Brighton. Strangely, Bournemouth appear better than Southampton, Watford and Burnley.....

      Ultimately though, there are 12 teams who seem significantly worse than the top 6, with West Ham and Leicester in the middle.

      1. Reuser
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Although on second thoughts, I might be looking at attack rather than defence - which would make much more sense.

        Useful exercise all the same - still seems like there is a clear division between Top 6 and everyone else.....

      2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I would have had Brighton a bit better placed on that list...

        1. Warby84
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Avoid Southampton

  3. Whats the Huth
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Who is the 4.5m mid of choice?

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      filter fpl

      1. Whats the Huth
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        The mid of choice in FFS community 😉

    2. Jebiga
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Stephens

    3. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Chalobah for me.

    4. SW6
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Gunnarson

    5. Tempestic
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Ward

    6. Lone Wolf FPL
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Ward

    7. WVA
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Ward from Cardiff scoring in pre season, attacking mid

    8. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I also am looking at Ward. Good to see a good number of you agreeing

  4. 420king
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    I really don't get the Arnie love.

    Tosun and Zaha have good fixtures GW1-9, whereas his are horrible.
    Tosun/Zaha ➡ Arnie looks great after GW9 though.

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      buy membership

      1. LosBlancos
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I was very suprised at the RMT results for 7m and under players, hope it wont let me down

      2. 420king
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        And that will tell me Arnie scores more than those two in first 9 GWs despite those fixtures?

        I knew he was good without the membership, but is he really that good?

        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          ...there are no guarantees obviously. There never is in fpl.

          But it will let you compare those 3 players iro :

          min/goal
          min/chance
          goal conversion

          Once you filter home/away it becomes interesting...

          1. Fire Chief Moe
            • 15 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Can you compare 3 players at once?

            1. Christina.
              • 16 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              you can compare 2 players side-side but you can "compare" as many as you like from top to bottom.

              stats are easy to read and if you click on top it sorts it high->low etc.

    2. Jebiga
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      what if west ham win the title 🙂

      1. 420king
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Could say the same for other two 😉

    3. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Arnie’s stat is off the chain. Apparently fixture proof.

      However, I have gone without him. I think West Ham has a very tough start and it’s a wait and see for me.

      1. Warby84
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Arnie fixtures
        Liv, BOU, ars, WOL, eve, CHE, MU.

        I don’t think these fixtures are that bad, on his day he can be immense.. Wolves/Bournemouth hm he’s worth keeping for

        1. Whats the Huth
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Terrible fixtures!

    4. Reuser
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      In isolation, Arnie does have Bournemouth, Wolves and Everton in his first 5 matches. So not all bad.

    5. Jackie Moon
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I agree. Much prefer Zaha and Tosun to start over Arnie. Personably I’ve gone Zaha and Siggy in midfield for Evertons fixtures. West Ham also have a lot of new signings and manager so happy wait to and see how they go initially.

      1. Christina.
        • 16 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        wham will go better than last yr. Better manager better players

        1. Jackie Moon
          • 7 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Agreed they probably will, but I’m still happy to wait for fixtures to turn and see on form. Start of the season we don’t have form to go on so it’s all about fixtures for me. (Except for fixture proof premium players that is)

          1. Christina.
            • 16 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Arnie is fixture proof. Attacking returns vs Chelsea, Arsenal and Everton last yr.

        2. SweepaKeepa
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          Reckon Wilshere will continue in the No. 10 role as per pre season so far?

    6. SweepaKeepa
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I’ll probably wait and buy him for 7.5 after he’s scored goals against Liverpool and Arsenal.

      1. 420king
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        😆

        Thanks everyone!

  5. Lone Wolf FPL
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Ederson, Button
    Robertson, Shaw, Tomkins, Peltier, W-B
    Salah, Mahrez, Jota, Lamela, Ward
    Aguero, Firmino, Zaha/Arnie

    Is it too risky?

    Plan is to use 2FT and:
    - downgrade one of those 6.5 (probably Lamela) to get 5.0 mid who will look the best (few around but not sure who to pick atm)
    - ugrade 4.0 def who will be no starter and get 5.5 one(maybe ManU def and sell Shaw later)

    1. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Three transfers there waiting to happen.

      Lamela. Shaw. Mahrez.

      Unless you’re set for a early wildcard I would review it

  6. Jebiga
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Do you think Daniels is nailed ?
    Someone posted that they just bought new LB...

    1. Lord Flashheart
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      i think they bought/buying a LB from la liga for like 10M euro

      1. Jebiga
        • 14 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        :/

        not good news

    2. Bunk Moreland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I'm a liiittle bit skeptical because I remember him getting subbed quite often last season. It may just have been fatigue of course.

  7. child of God
    • 7 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Who keeps more clean sheets? City or pool

    1. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      City

    2. Jebiga
      • 14 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Mourinho's bus

    3. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      city

    4. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      xG against last season:

      MCI 25,08
      LIV 36,03

      City

    5. LosBlancos
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Pool, Fabinho and Allison werent there last season. And VVD only arrived in the winter...

    6. Fantastisk
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      City easg

  8. RAFA THE GAFFA
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    A long way to go yet but looking at something like this... any changes/advice? Cheers

    Foster
    Robertson • Mendy • Coleman
    Salah • Sane • Eriksen • Richarlison • Kenedy
    Firmino • Arnautovic
    (Fabianski • Stephens • Tomkins • Kamara)

    1. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I like it. But lack of big hitter up front means you have very little room to manoeuvre if one goes wild.

      1. RAFA THE GAFFA
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Decent point mate, thanks.

        Which so called “big hitter” would you recommend? Really don’t think Kun is worth it

        1. Whats the Huth
          • 10 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          I’ve gone for both Auba and Kun personally.

          You need at least one of them I believe. Especially if you want to squeeze Kane back in eventually.

          1. RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Might just drop Eriksen and go Kane from the off 😀

  9. Jebiga
    • 14 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Who is the best pick as 6.5 mid:

    1. Lamela
    2. Jota
    3. Pedro

    ?

    1. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Pedro if he starts/nailed.

      Lamela will be out as soon as the wc crew returns.

      Jota is overpriced imo

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      3 from those

    3. Jackie Moon
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Richarlison at Everton could be good. Townsend at 6.0 potentially even better. But Pedro would be stand out if he nails down a spot.

  10. Farke in hell
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Guys, Does rotation ever work?

    1. child of God
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      If you're lucky yes

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Playing the fixtures can be a massive benefit. Two 4.5 GKs or defenders can work with their home fixtures

  11. The Mantis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    A) Sigi / Sane / Reid
    B) Richarlison (EVE) / Mahrez / Zaha

    1. KUNingas
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      B

      1. KUNingas
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Also monitor Lamela and Pedro at 6.5 bracket

  12. Dacra
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on Keita? Im thinking Keita/Laca is better than Mkhi/Firmino, for 0.5 more?

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      read the article I posted on previous page.

      1. Dacra
        • 11 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Just read, not sure it tells me anything new 😀

        Now to decide whether he's a good FPL option or I''m blinded by being a Liverpool fan..

        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          look at his bundesliga stats. it seems the article suggests Klopp wants to use him in the same way...

            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 16 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              Do you think Keita could do as well as Pogba did last year?

              1. Christina.
                • 16 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                Better I reckon. He plays for a klopp team not a mourinho team.

                1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                  • 16 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  Pogba got 6 goals & 10assists in 27 games from central midfield... you think Keita could do better?

                  1. Christina.
                    • 16 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    he got 138 pts in fpl. thats all that matters to me. and he was more expensive than Keita.

                    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                      • 16 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      Midfielder points in FPL come primarily from goals & assists though, right? What points score would you consider good for him for this season?

                      1. Christina.
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        not sure...

                        30 games=60
                        15 CS=15
                        5 goals=30
                        10 assist=15
                        BPS=?

                        Thats 135 pre BPS(where he is rumored to be a monster...)

                      2. Christina.
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        *10 assist=30

                      3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        Yeah that would be very ambitious, but let’s say hypotherically Liverpool keep a clean sheet every 2 games he plays and he gets those 15 attacking contributions above in 30 games... that would put him on 120 points pre baps and pre disciplinary deductions from 30 games.

                        Pogba got 130 points pre baps and pre disciplinary deductions from only 27 games last year, which was interrupted by a serious hamstring injury midway through... So 10 more points in 10% less games in an injury hit season I am Mourinho team.

                        I’d say Keita has got a tough job to match Pogba’s returns from last year Klopp team or not.

                    2. theRealMoneyball
                      • 7 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      Looking at total score over the season? You don't plan on playing the game with transfers?

                      Keita is unproven in a big league/team. I love the enthusiasm of liv fans with their unproven signings

                      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        Yeah I find Keita a bizarre FPL pick I have to say. I have yet to see a coherent or logical argument for selecting him as an FPL player. He still could do ok, as even a bad hand can win a game of poker!

                        But he’s a bad FPL pick imo.

                      2. Christina.
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        ugh, obviously I plan to do trsfrs. Who doesn't. How would you like me to sell Keita to you?

                        His bundesliga stats not good enough? ok
                        What I think he will do over the season also not? ok

                        The poster is looking at Pogbas stats from last season to point out he reckon he's a bad buy...so why can't I guess how much he will get this season (at a cheaper price than Pogba)?

                        Listen and read what Klopp plans with him.

                      3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        No that’s the point - his bundesliga stats are not good enough - Pogba is such a useful yardstick to use to gain perspective when considering Keita for FPL. When both are fit, if you wouldn’t have Pogba in your team, and he is likely a much more productive FPL player, then having Keita doesn’t make sense.

                        Then factor in that selecting Pogba also doesn’t have the disadvantage of losing a Liverpool slot for VVD, Robertson, Mané, Firmino, Salah, all of whom should also comfortably outscore Keita, and I just have yet to see a coherent logical argument for selecting him for an FPL team.

                        If anything there are more arguments against selecting him, and getting him in is to the detriment of your teams overall points. I find Keita a very strange pick.

                      4. Christina.
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        I have Salah.
                        I have Robertson.

                        Mane, Firmino HAVE to outscore Keita. They cost 2m more than him.

                        Keita could do just as well as the other 7.5m's - Siggy & Ramsey early on, it's an easy switch.

                        Wait and see I guess. Besides, the point of the game is having fun and doing your own thing.

                        l.

                      5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        Would you not consider VVD then for 1.0 cheaper? If those 15 cleansheets above materialise and VVD plays 30 games VVD would also be on 120 points pre baps, pre goals, pre assists, then you would have 1m extra to Spend?

                        I appreciate the aim of playing FPL is having fun & predicting which players will do well etc, I just think all logic points towards Keita being a bad pick.

                        Then maybe it’s better not to be logical playing this game ! 🙂

                      6. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                        • 16 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        Also - if you have a gut feel for picking Keita then definitely do it, as if he goes out and scores 2 and sets up 3 in his first 4 or 5 games I would be kicking myself if I changed my mind because of someone else’s opinion 🙂

                      7. theRealMoneyball
                        • 7 Years
                        7 years, 8 months ago

                        Because you said pogba got 138 points and that's all that matters to you. It's the points per match that matters if you are considering transfers. One will not hold pogba if he's suspended or injured.
                        He is not bad value when he plays imo

                        Keita did well in bundesliga (a lopsided league) being the main man for a small team . it's very risky to assume he can replicate it at epl off the bat

          1. Dacra
            • 11 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            You think? Article has Klopp saying he played as a winger there, which isn't his best position and he'll play more centrally?

            I see him as our new Gerrard type player..

            1. Christina.
              • 16 Years
              7 years, 8 months ago

              I reckon he will move around during a game. sounds versatile. I reckon I'm punting on him With Mane/Salah/Firmino around him he is bound to pick up attacking points.

              1. Dacra
                • 11 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I think Ill take him instead of Firmino.

                1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                  • 16 Years
                  7 years, 8 months ago

                  I would definitely avoid him as an FPL option, so many better FPL selections before you come to Keita. At least until we see how he plays. As I said above, the first step is he needs to get up close to Pogba’s level inFPL then he might start to come into people’s thinking as a potential FPL option

                  1. theRealMoneyball
                    • 7 Years
                    7 years, 8 months ago

                    Other than modric, pogba is the best no. 8 in the world. He's such a confidence-dependent player. The world cup will do him great. Proven winner. Can't wait for him to smash all these unproven new signings non-winners

                    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                      • 16 Years
                      7 years, 8 months ago

                      Totally agree. If Mourinho doesn’t focus on getting the best out of Pogba & Martial this year he is an absolute fool. They are two of the best prospects/players in world football, and we have been gifted with them at 7.5 & 8.0 in FPL, that is unheard of value.

                      I like a Pogba, Silva, KDB, Salah midfield, with Salah providing the explosiveness & he other 3 providing slow & steady points every week.

              2. Pieterke30
                • 9 Years
                7 years, 8 months ago

                I agree with you Chris, I expect Liverpool to score even more goals than last season, and Keita will defo grab assists here and there and even score one from time to time. He is decently-priced and could be a very interesting FPL asset. Id defo prefer to get him in than Pogba, fwiw.

  13. KUNingas
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    A) Zaha + Martial
    B) Kun + 5.0 (already have Mahrez)

    1. Dacra
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      B

    2. Lazaretti
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      B) Kun + Hughes

      1. KUNingas
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Yep Hughes was my plan

  14. Sune
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Do you think Pereyra will nail down a spot in Watford? Could be an interesting pick at 6.0.

    1. Royston7
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Should do - was our best player in the last five or so games last season, and can see him and Delofeu starting on either side of a front three when Richarlison goes

      1. Sune
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Many thanks.

  15. Whats the Huth
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Your thoughts

    Fab. 4.0
    Mendy. Tompkins. Lowton. Robertson. Wan-Bissaka.
    Salah. Eriksen. Martial. Costa. Ward.
    Aguero. Auba. Kamara.

    1. Christina.
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      what form are you playing?

      1. Whats the Huth
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        4-4-2

        1. Christina.
          • 16 Years
          7 years, 8 months ago

          I dont like the look of Costa & lowton/tomkins every week. Martial is a trsfr waiting to happen

          1. Whats the Huth
            • 10 Years
            7 years, 8 months ago

            Lowton would be nailed starter in my team every week. Till Europa starts again.

            Tompkins may go yet.

            Costa is a 5m mid of choice. One will come out trump and I’ll make the required switch.

            Martial is always going to become Mkhitaryan or Ramsey.

            Or even Pedro if he’s a starter

    2. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Might all change if Pedro nails down a starting spot. Martial could become Pedro. And I would be able to upgrade elsewhere if needed

    3. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Like it.
      Are you sure on Spurs from the get go.
      City mid instead with the fixtures.

      Also 2 CP defenders?
      Lose Tomkins for another 4.5?

      1. Whats the Huth
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah. Tompkins may go. Still dabbling with my 4.5 defenders.

        I’m confident on Eriksen. He produces season after season - May become Sane for the first two games though
        Will see. But gut feeling says Eriksen will do well from start

  16. Christina.
    • 16 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    I reckon Josh King could have a good season again this year. Nice opening fixtures and Bournemouth look free scoring to me.

    1. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Possibly. Prefer Wood at that price though.

    2. Old Gregg
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I think you could be on to something. Looking at Defoe too. Will keep a keen eye on the pre-season form.

    3. Bunk Moreland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I don't know if it has been noted here, but in an interview with a Norwegian paper King deemed himself "110 % displeased" with his position last season and saying something had to change . He said that he was a striker and could not understand why he was being played so deep, and that it had affected his play all season. (in Norwegian: https://www.vg.no/sport/fotball/i/wEmpyM/joshua-king-misfornoeyd-med-rollen-i-bournemouth-jeg-er-ikke-happy)

      It will be interesting to see if he will play more as a no 9 this year, or even if another club buys him which imo may make him a better asset.

      1. Lazaretti
        • 8 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Good info thanks. There is also Defoe and Wilson battling striker positions

  17. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Money no object, Mané, Sané or D.Silva? (Have Salah & Mahrez).

    1. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Mané

    2. RAFA THE GAFFA
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Mane

    3. ooooo
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Mane

    4. Sanchit
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Sane

    5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Probably Mané, closely followed by Sané. But Dilva’s price tag is lovely. I see him as a bit like Firmino, guaranteed nice & steady points, if nothing. Spectacular. A Salah team needs players like this. Also see Pogba & KDB.

    6. Pirlø's Pen
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Eriksen

  18. Royston7
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Foster
    Robertson • Tomkins • Cedric
    Salah • Mahrez • Lamela • Mikhi
    Firmino • Arnautovic/Zaha • Aguero/Auba
    (Fabianski • Dunk • Peltier • Ward)

    Any advice welcome - worried about DEF being weak, but unsure where best place to release funds might be

    Cheers

    1. lugs
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      to get funds , downgrading Firmino so you can have both Zaha and Arni is the obvious route imo

      1. Royston7
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks,

        A) Firminho, Ward, Peltier
        B) Arnie, £5.0m mid, £5.5m def (Bailly?)

        As above, currently with Option A (Ward and Peltier as bench fodder), but do folk think Option B offers more flexibility...would mean Tomkins/Cedric/Dunk/Bailly (or other 5.5)/Robertson defence

    2. Lazaretti
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Downgrade Lamela. Lamela has never played full 90mins and most likely he will be dropped when WC players comes back

  19. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    I have 4.5 for a defender to rotate with Wan-Bisska
    Was thinking Everton who have decent fixtures too.
    Not sure which of Jag or Williams is nailed.

    A. Jags
    B. Williams
    C. Another 4.5 suggestion.

    1. Old Gregg
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Schlupp.
      lol see below. Not sure about the palace double up though.

      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        Lol see above just told someone not sure about them having CP defence double up 🙂

  20. Old Gregg
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Morning,

    Is Schlupp a potentially a better option than PVA?. Also, 1m cheaper.

    In pre-season it looks as though Schlupp is in midfield and played the last 2 friendlies, also playing the 1st half in the 3rd.

    1. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Love old gregg.

      I’m unsure on Schlupp to be honest. Tempted. But it is only pre season yet

  21. Miguel Sanchez
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    4.5/4.0
    Robertson Mendy Bailly
    Salah Mahrez Siggy Jota Pedro
    Aguero Wood

    4.5 def Wan Bisaka Kamara

    1.0 ITB to get KDB for Mahrez when Kevin is back.

  22. pls
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Hey guys best option???

    A: Aguero, Deulofeu/Redmond
    B: Zaha, Eriksen

    1. ooooo
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      B but Sane/Mane instead of eriksen

      1. pls
        • 9 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        have Sane + plus salah firmino, not sure want mane as well

  23. Rex Lapis
    • 11 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Get Robertson or Mendy?

    1. ooooo
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Robbo

    2. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Both for me.
      If I had to choose .. I can't
      that's why I got both

  24. Penguin
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Really tough one for me this. I have Sanchez in at the moment but as I keep tinkering with my team he’s in then out then in again, what do people think about him is he worth the punt?

    1. JAC THE CAT
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I like him, in my team at the moment.

      1. Warby84
        • 10 Years
        7 years, 8 months ago

        I think it’s worth a wild punt, at least he is downgradeable to almost any mdf in the game

    2. Bunk Moreland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      I like him, first rest in 8 years and a top player. But he still plays for Manchester United, a defensive team if ever there was one. It's hard not to think that a city mid and the top strikers like Aguero and Aubameyang will still outscore him.

    3. Lebowski85
      • 13 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      He is in my team. It wasn't long ago he was essential at 13mil.

      I know his role has changed at Utd but I guess his form there can only improve being played Oop. 100% worth having in....if he does nothing in GW1/2 then bring in Hazard or Kdb.

    4. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Really tough because of his price point.

      It’s Mourinho’s team though. Which puts me off him

    5. child of God
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Had him at some point bt had to get rid coz having him and salah wasn't doing any justice to rest of my team

    6. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      He looked progressively fatter & out of shape the last few years. I’d say he’s physically deteriorating rapidly now he’s coming 30 in December, and his best years are long behind him. Could still score a brace or two, but on the whole I think it’s much easier for defenders to deal with him now. The Mourinho factor just makes things even worse.

    7. Lazaretti
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Difficult to fit Salah / Sanchez and one premium forward in your team. Imo you always need one Aguero/Kane/Auba in your team

    8. Penguin
      • 12 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Cheers guys

  25. ooooo
    • 8 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Prmt
    Ederson
    Robbo Bailly Cedric
    Salah sane Mane Richarlison Costa
    Auba Arnie

    4.0 Tomkins Kamara Bennett

  26. JAC THE CAT
    • 12 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    I want a set and forget keeper, I dont have any other Man City or Man Utd defenders.

    Best pick...

    A, Ederson
    B, De Gea

    1. ooooo
      • 8 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      B

    2. Rex Lapis
      • 11 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      B

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      A - cheaper and Mourinho may be found out this year

    4. Bunk Moreland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      A

    5. Sune
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      A

    6. Bunk Moreland
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      De Gea had a bad world cup and even though he is a top top goalkeeper, it might affect his confidence even for United. Take into account the 0,5 saving and I am confident that Ederson will be the better pick at least until the first wild card.

    7. theRealMoneyball
      • 7 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Ddg is bonus machine. Not ederson. He hardly have saves to make with the way his team plays

  27. Warby84
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    Is it worth having Van Dijk and Robertson, otherwise what are the best alt 6m defenders,

    Sanchez or Mendy??

    1. Whats the Huth
      • 10 Years
      7 years, 8 months ago

      Mendy

  28. Miguel Sanchez
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    A - cheaper and Mourinho may be found out this year

  29. KUNingas
    • 10 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    I have been reading this site for a like 3-4 years. Now I am finally a member 🙂

  30. fenixri
    • 9 Years
    7 years, 8 months ago

    RMT pls

    Ederson - Stekelenburg

    Roberston - Azpi - Van Anholt - Wan Bissaka - Peltier

    Salah - Mahrez - Eriksen - Townsend - Neves

    Auba - Wood - Kamara