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Norwich City 1-5 Aston Villa

Goals: Josip Drmic (£5.4m) | Wesley (£6.0m) x2, Jack Grealish (£5.9m), Conor Hourihane (£5.7m), Douglas Luiz (£4.5m)
Assists: None | Anwar El Ghazi (£5.5m) x2, Hourihane, Matt Targett (£4.4m) Wesley
Bonus Points: Wesley x3, Michael McGovern (£4.0m) x2, Hourihane x1

Norwich City’s thrill-a-minute return to the Premier League continued on Saturday with a 5-1 battering at home by fellow promoted side Aston Villa.

The commitment of Daniel Farke’s team to attacking football is refreshing, exhilarating and, increasingly, self-defeating. Since Gameweek 5’s famous 3-2 win over Manchester City, the Canaries have lost three straight games by an aggregate score of 1-9.

Their well-documented injury woes – just the nine regulars unavailable against Villa – goes some way to explaining all of that, but an inability to defend on even the most basic level is starting to look like a terminal issue.

It was certainly exploited by the visitors, with striker Wesley (£6.0m) enjoying by far his best display since his summer move to the Midlands. He opened the scoring when he controlled Anwar El Ghazi‘s (£5.5m) cross and turned and fired past Norwich keeper Michael McGovern (£4.0m), before he doubled the lead with a tap-in from Conor Hourihane‘s (£5.7m) low ball from the left.

That made it four goals in eight starts for the Brazilian – not exactly a bad return for a forward who some Villa fans were criticising after last week’s 2-2 draw with Burnley.

He added an assist for the fifth goal when Douglas Luiz (£4.5m) curled home from distance to bring in 14 points, including maximum bonus, for his 2.0% Fantasy Premier League (FPL) ownership.

The only downer on his day came when he had a first-half penalty, and the rebound, saved by McGovern – a blip which cost that ownership a further six points.

Despite all that, there is no indication of an FPL rush to bring in Wesley just yet, probably because a) it was only Norwich, b) the international break is upon us and c) Villa’s upcoming schedule is far from appealing.

Dean Smith’s side host Brighton in Gameweek 9 before embarking on a punishing six-match run involving two trips to Manchester, one to Chelsea and a home fixture against Liverpool.

However uninspired Manchester United, or generous at the back Chelsea, might be, no side will be anywhere near as accommodating as Norwich at present.

The Canaries allowed their visitors 22 shots, of which 12 were on target; Villa’s midfield ran riot as a result.

Jack Grealish (£5.9m) made it 3-0 when he combined sweetly with El Ghazi, and the tireless Hourihane then capped a fine individual performance with his first goal of the season, set up by the equally industrious Matt Targett (£4.4m).

But while Wesley stole all the headlines, it was El Ghazi who was arguably the star of the show.

The Holland international now has two goals and three assists from his last five games and he was joint-top for chances created at Carrow Road. With just 0.8% ownership, he could be a major differential, particularly when Villa’s schedule eases dramatically from Gameweek 17 onwards.

One player proving way more popular than El Ghazi is the 11.7%-owned John McGinn (£5.8m), who came into the match with back-to-back goals and 214,000+ new owners to his name.

His blank was a bitter blow, as was the late consolation goal handed to Norwich when Tyrone Mings‘ (£4.6m) ill-judged back pass to Tom Heaton (£4.5m) allowed substitute Josip Drmic (£5.4m) to charge down the keeper’s attempted clearance and roll the ball into the empty net. That denied Villa a third clean sheet of the season – and a first away from home – but manager Smith was happy to dwell on events further up the pitch:

They were really good goals, our tactical discipline was really good today. Our performances have been there. That result today is probably what we’ve deserved in the last few weeks. – Dean Smith

And he was keen to praise Wesley:

He’s a young player, he’s only 22, he’s been in Belgium for a year or two and then Slovakia before that. So it’s a new culture, a new team a new group of players, and a big price tag. But he handles it well and I saw a big response from him this week. – Dean Smith.

Wesley’s Norwich counterpart, the 43.5%-owned Teemu Pukki (£7.2m), could only dream of receiving such praise.

After three double-digit returns from his first five matches, the Finn has now blanked for three straight Gameweeks.

Norwich attacked throughout on Saturday – the top four players for penalty area touches all came from the home side, with Pukki among them.

But the Finland international managed just two shots, neither of which were on target, and has had just seven attempts across his current barren spell.

It is no surprise, therefore, that he is currently Gameweek 9’s most-sold player, even with a trip to a Bournemouth side without a clean sheet to come next.

The Canaries’ other popular asset, the 25.7%-owned Todd Cantwell (£4.9m), survived an injury scare to start against Villa, but he also blanked for a third Gameweek running.

He did at least out-shoot Pukki and he was also joint-top with Emiliano Buendia (£6.0m) for chances created among the home players. And the third-most-owned Norwich player in FPL? That would be goalkeeper McGovern (5.6%).

The 380,000+ Fantasy geniuses who have the Canaries’ third-choice stopper in their squads would have walked away with nine points yesterday courtesy of his penalty heroics, six other saves and two bonus points.

But that was if – and it’s a big if – he wasn’t languishing on their benches in all his £4.0m glory.

Glory was certainly far from Farke’s mind post-match:

We have to accept this loss. We made too many mistakes. We created maybe more than they did in the first half, but the mistakes and the goals we were conceded were not good enough. We had so many on the pitch playing with pain killers and they have not been able to train properly this week. So really we are not prepared as we need to be. Then in addition, one or two crucial players do not have their best day. – Daniel Farke

In truth, only McGovern had his best day against Villa, and even he looked nervy before his spot-kick save.

As for the rest of the players, the international break looks to have come at just the right time, allowing them to escape overseas, take a break or recover from injury – whatever is needed to reverse a slide that is looking unstoppable at the moment.

How many Fantasy managers keep faith in the likes of Pukki and Cantwell before November’s final break of the year is unclear. Their fixtures are okay – Bournemouth and Brighton away, Man United and Watford at Carrow Road – but their form is anything but.

Members Analysis

Norwich (4-2-3-1): McGovern; Aarons, Amadou, Godfrey, Lewis; Leitner, McLean; Buendia, Stiepermann (Roberts 76′), Cantwell (Srbeny 80′); Pukki (Drmic 84′).

Aston Villa (4-3-3): Heaton; Guilbert, Engels (Konsa 75′), Mings, Targett; McGinn, Nakamba, Hourihane (Douglas Luiz 78′); El Ghazi (Trezeguet 64′), Wesley, Grealish.

Lessons learned from Gameweek 8

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  1. Typo
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Stupid, or smartness?

    Barnes, Pukki, Sterling -> C.Wilson, Auba, Maddison

    I have KDB. I dont have WC to quickfix Sterling back.

    Its a -4

    1. aleksios
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I wouldnt ditch Sterl imo.

      1. Typo
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks, you are probably right. Auba has shu and cry in the next two, and their defence aint a joke, so a -4 probably wont pay off. Sterling might haul aswell massivly like gw 1, dont seem like Auba does hauls like that.

    2. Karhumies
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Seems good.

    3. Krionos
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Well, city did win 8-0 after their loss to Norwich...

  2. mazkills
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Assuming no injuries...this look gtg after 2 ft's

    Ryan
    VVD-Tomori-4.5/4.6 (Lund-Pieters)
    Salah-KDB-Sterling-Mount (Cantwell)
    Wilson-Tammy-Haller

    1. aleksios
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Looks great.

    2. g40steve
      7 years, 1 month ago

      No Leicester?

  3. Ohh1454
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Bottomed earlier
    Worth a hit to do son and pukki > vardy and madisson ?

    1. Albert_Luque
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Haha see below. I think yes dependent on injuries over the IB. Form and fixtures in alignment.

      1. Ohh1454
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Feel sons minutes a risk against Watford otherwise would like to keep but have to move him to mad to afford vardy who I really want this week

        1. Hint
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Yes I think so

    2. g40steve
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Just done those moves.

  4. EL_FENOMENO
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Kun, Pukki, Dilva:
    a) Auba, Vardy, Mount
    b) Auba, Wilson, Madd

    1. Ohh1454
      7 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Hint
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I've done B due to funds but without any other considerations A looks best

  5. Albert_Luque
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Son and Pukki to Vardy and Maddison for a -4?

  6. King Kohli
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Will lose Value on Pukki if I don't transfer him tonight.

    Would you do Pukki > Wilson now or wait till next week for any injuries

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Depends if you have WC to fall back on?

    2. Bobby Digital
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I'm keeping Pukki, he's due.

  7. Gudjohnsen
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Cantwell to Maddison for a hit?

  8. Miguel Sanchez
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this WC

    Pope McGovern
    TAA Pereira xxx Lundstram Rico
    Mané KDB xxx Mount Dendocker
    Auba Vardy Pukki

    A) Otamendi and Hudson Odoi
    B) Gomez/5.2 def and Maddison

    1. Thomas Magnum
      7 years, 1 month ago

      A, just but would probably rather Mcginn over CHO. Only don't like the Gomez and not sure who else is worth it in that price range other then maybe Tomori cause you already have Leicester coverage

    2. BOATIES FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Wheres tammy?

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Wrote Pukki instead of Abraham, good spot.

    3. @fpl_phenom
      7 years, 1 month ago

      soyuncu and maddison id go with IF I was going for B

      thats really close... City not really keeping clean sheets ... is it worth £5.6M for Otamendi ?

    4. IRBOX âš½
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Too many finds up top. One of Auba or Vardy only and improve elsewhere with the savings

      1. IRBOX âš½
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Funds*

      2. Miguel Sanchez
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Cheers Irbox, could go Wilson over one of them.but have never had much luck with him historically.

    5. FOO FIGHTER
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Trossard will be back after the IB. Perhaps consider him over Maddi? Just depends when Trossard starts again though after his return. Gives you extra cash for Matip and upgrade on Rico. Gomez is not nailed.

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I started with Trossard in GW1 and kept for a few weeks and liked what I saw. Good shout for that 4th mid spot.

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah, had Trossard as well. Shipped him as soon as je was injured and getting him back soon..

    6. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Pukki fans club? Not seduced by Abraham? 4.5M defense + Maddison for me

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Wrote Pukki instead of Abraham somehow

  9. Thomas Magnum
    7 years, 1 month ago

    This worth WC'ing or just sell Kane > Auba
    Pope Mcgovern
    TAA Robbo Ota Dunk Lund
    Salah Sterling Mount Mcginn Guend
    Kane King Wickham
    1FT 0.2ITB

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Kane arguably has a better fixture than Auba next GW.

      1. Thomas Magnum
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Agreed, just worried about price changes. If Kane blanks again and Auba goes off i'll be priced out if I hold

  10. Old Bull
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Is there going to be a FF cup this year? Usually it shows on the team screen.

  11. Super Nashwan
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Should I do transfers early as got just enough cash or wait until last minute in case there are injuries?

    1. Thomas Magnum
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Wait if you won't get priced out

    2. Party time
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Prefer to wait but then if price becomes a great factor then do it & believe there would be no injuries to any key player in your team

  12. Manani
    7 years, 1 month ago

    choose 2 (already have KDB)

    Sterling
    Mane
    Auba
    Kun

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Mane and Auba

      1. Thomas Magnum
        7 years, 1 month ago

        This

    2. FPL_DON
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Leaning towards Mane Auba myself

    3. Squib
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I have gone Mane and Auba.
      Let Sterling go 2 weeks back. Kun just gone out of my team now.

  13. BOATIES FC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Who is the better bench fodder at 4.1 Rico or Kelly?

    Cheers

    1. Pedersen
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Kelly, much larger CS chance

    2. Relaxing
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Bou have the better fixtures but Kelly the better player in my opinion. Both could potentially be rotated from what I hear, so it's a close call

    3. @fpl_phenom
      7 years, 1 month ago

      well if you're on a wildcard put rico in as hes rising tonight... decide later then

      1. BOATIES FC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 years, 1 month ago

        It's to fund Pukki to Wilson.
        Maitland Niles to either of them so not on wildcard.

  14. beetlejuice
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Is it stupid to WC with having 2 FT and without catching the market from the first day ?

    1. Ady87
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Depends on the team.

      1. beetlejuice
        7 years, 1 month ago

        I need to get Tammy;

        Salah, Greenwood, Digne, Pieters
        to
        Mane, Tammy, Rico, Dunk

        which is -8

        plus I may even fit Haller to Wilson by doing Dunk to Kelly

        1. Pedersen
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Cant the Pieters -> Dunk wait a round to only go -4?

          1. beetlejuice
            7 years, 1 month ago

            I'm missing 0.1 without that move :/

  15. IRBOX âš½
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Who gets sacked first? Ole or Marco Silva? 12th and 18th respectively is not even close to acceptable for these 2 clubs

    1. Ohh1454
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Silva imo

    2. @fpl_phenom
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Silva

    3. noquarternt
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Think silva might be out now. Hope Ole stays forever.

    4. BOATIES FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Silva

  16. Ady87
    7 years, 1 month ago

    51 this week. So excited to sell Barnes! Who for though?

    1 FT, £1.3m ITB

    Pope
    TAA Ota Tomori Aurier
    Salah Sterling Mahrez Mount
    Abraham Wesley

    Subs: Lund Cantwell Barnes

    Any suggestions for moves? King? Save money to get KDB back and bench him? Other?

    1. Ady87
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Salah/Barnes > Mane/C.Wilson -4?...

  17. Infamy, Infamy
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Better way to fund Pukki to C. Wilson:

    A. Otamendi to Tomori;
    B. Salah to Mane.

    1. Ohh1454
      7 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. Old Bull
      7 years, 1 month ago

      B Thinking of going that way anyway.

    3. Pedersen
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Vardy instead?

    4. @fpl_phenom
      7 years, 1 month ago

      B all day long

  18. Mr_Barbs
    7 years, 1 month ago

    A) Wildcard
    B) VVD & Pukki > Soy & Vardy (-4)

    Pope,
    TAA, VVD, Otamendi, Aurier
    Salah, Sterling, KDB, Cantwell
    Pukki, Abraham

    Button, Saka, Lundstram, Greenwood

    1. Pedersen
      7 years, 1 month ago

      B, WC when only having 3 you need to sort might be overdoing it (Aurier)

    2. Boberella
      7 years, 1 month ago

      B

    3. BOATIES FC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      B

  19. Pedersen
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Anything to do with this team?

    Ryan
    TAA - Digne - Soyu
    Salah - Sterling - Son - Mount - Cantwell
    Vardy - Abraham

    Pope - Lundstram - Kelly - Greenwood

    Still waiting Bruyne update

    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Start Lundstram over Cantplaywell

  20. FPL AXE
    7 years, 1 month ago

    What's the team number for FPL general?

  21. Alli
    7 years, 1 month ago

    A) Salah, Pukki > Mané, C.Wilson
    B) Digne, Pukki > Kelly/Rico, Vardy
    C) Digne > Pereira
    D) Wait/Other

    2 FT - 0.2 ITB

    Ryan - Heaton
    VVD - Otamendi - Diop - Digne- Dunk
    Salah - Sterling - KDB - Cantwell - Mount
    Pukki - Tammy - Greenwood

  22. WWW.
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Button Heaton
    TAA Ota Lundstram Tomori Soy
    Mane KDB Son Mount Cantwell
    Auba King Greenwood

    1. WWW.
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Mistake, oops... See below! 🙂

  23. FPL_DON
    7 years, 1 month ago

    What's the latest on KDB? Is he set to play next GW?

    1. Pedersen
      7 years, 1 month ago

      2 weeks out, hard to tell. City manager usually underplay injuries in medias...

    2. Party time
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I doubt if he will be fit for the palace game, Pep is always too careful with injuries

  24. WWW.
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Any suggestions for what to do with this lot?

    Button Heaton
    TAA Ota Lundstram Tomori Soy
    Mane KDB Son Mount Cantwell
    Auba King Greenwood

    Cheers!

    1. Pedersen
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Suggestion, but would probably be close pointwise... Maybe Heaton to Ryan/Pope? Or...
      Auba -> Vardy
      King -> Tammy

      Also consider if Ota is worth 5.5m

  25. WVA
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Pukki > ? For free?

    A. Wilson
    B. Jimenez

  26. Bob B
    7 years, 1 month ago

    A. Mane Vardy VVD (Dendoncker, Greenwood) 4-4-2

    B. Salah Wilson Pukki (Dendoncker, Rico) 3-4-3

    C. Salah Wilson Maddison (Greenwood, Reid) (-4) 3-4-3

    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Mane Wilson Maddison

      1. Bob B
        7 years, 1 month ago

        That would be another (-4)

    2. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      A then long term

  27. @fpl_phenom
    7 years, 1 month ago

    feels great with the wildcard active

    1. Tsparkes10
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Tell me about it

  28. Tsparkes10
    7 years, 1 month ago

    What to do to catch rises tonight then on a WC?

    Sterling to Mane and Pukki to Abraham?

    1. Kip
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

    2. JIMMY TUGGINS
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Sterling is 12.1 though if you want him back.

  29. jblakes
    7 years, 1 month ago

    If I got pukki at 6.5, he's now worth 7.2, my selling is 6.8.

    If he drops tonight doi lose a 0.1 or not?

    Regards James

    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Not

    2. Bob B
      7 years, 1 month ago

      No, you make 0.1 profit for every 0.2 rise.
      He needs to drop from 7.1 to 7.0 before you lose any value

      1. jblakes
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Thought so, probably still gonna offload him just not yet

  30. @fpl_phenom
    7 years, 1 month ago

    is a leicester tripl up too much?

    Soyuncu
    Maddison
    Vardy

    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Soy and or Maddi