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Norwich City 1-5 Aston Villa

Goals: Josip Drmic (£5.4m) | Wesley (£6.0m) x2, Jack Grealish (£5.9m), Conor Hourihane (£5.7m), Douglas Luiz (£4.5m)
Assists: None | Anwar El Ghazi (£5.5m) x2, Hourihane, Matt Targett (£4.4m) Wesley
Bonus Points: Wesley x3, Michael McGovern (£4.0m) x2, Hourihane x1

Norwich City’s thrill-a-minute return to the Premier League continued on Saturday with a 5-1 battering at home by fellow promoted side Aston Villa.

The commitment of Daniel Farke’s team to attacking football is refreshing, exhilarating and, increasingly, self-defeating. Since Gameweek 5’s famous 3-2 win over Manchester City, the Canaries have lost three straight games by an aggregate score of 1-9.

Their well-documented injury woes – just the nine regulars unavailable against Villa – goes some way to explaining all of that, but an inability to defend on even the most basic level is starting to look like a terminal issue.

It was certainly exploited by the visitors, with striker Wesley (£6.0m) enjoying by far his best display since his summer move to the Midlands. He opened the scoring when he controlled Anwar El Ghazi‘s (£5.5m) cross and turned and fired past Norwich keeper Michael McGovern (£4.0m), before he doubled the lead with a tap-in from Conor Hourihane‘s (£5.7m) low ball from the left.

That made it four goals in eight starts for the Brazilian – not exactly a bad return for a forward who some Villa fans were criticising after last week’s 2-2 draw with Burnley.

He added an assist for the fifth goal when Douglas Luiz (£4.5m) curled home from distance to bring in 14 points, including maximum bonus, for his 2.0% Fantasy Premier League (FPL) ownership.

The only downer on his day came when he had a first-half penalty, and the rebound, saved by McGovern – a blip which cost that ownership a further six points.

Despite all that, there is no indication of an FPL rush to bring in Wesley just yet, probably because a) it was only Norwich, b) the international break is upon us and c) Villa’s upcoming schedule is far from appealing.

Dean Smith’s side host Brighton in Gameweek 9 before embarking on a punishing six-match run involving two trips to Manchester, one to Chelsea and a home fixture against Liverpool.

However uninspired Manchester United, or generous at the back Chelsea, might be, no side will be anywhere near as accommodating as Norwich at present.

The Canaries allowed their visitors 22 shots, of which 12 were on target; Villa’s midfield ran riot as a result.

Jack Grealish (£5.9m) made it 3-0 when he combined sweetly with El Ghazi, and the tireless Hourihane then capped a fine individual performance with his first goal of the season, set up by the equally industrious Matt Targett (£4.4m).

But while Wesley stole all the headlines, it was El Ghazi who was arguably the star of the show.

The Holland international now has two goals and three assists from his last five games and he was joint-top for chances created at Carrow Road. With just 0.8% ownership, he could be a major differential, particularly when Villa’s schedule eases dramatically from Gameweek 17 onwards.

One player proving way more popular than El Ghazi is the 11.7%-owned John McGinn (£5.8m), who came into the match with back-to-back goals and 214,000+ new owners to his name.

His blank was a bitter blow, as was the late consolation goal handed to Norwich when Tyrone Mings‘ (£4.6m) ill-judged back pass to Tom Heaton (£4.5m) allowed substitute Josip Drmic (£5.4m) to charge down the keeper’s attempted clearance and roll the ball into the empty net. That denied Villa a third clean sheet of the season – and a first away from home – but manager Smith was happy to dwell on events further up the pitch:

They were really good goals, our tactical discipline was really good today. Our performances have been there. That result today is probably what we’ve deserved in the last few weeks. – Dean Smith

And he was keen to praise Wesley:

He’s a young player, he’s only 22, he’s been in Belgium for a year or two and then Slovakia before that. So it’s a new culture, a new team a new group of players, and a big price tag. But he handles it well and I saw a big response from him this week. – Dean Smith.

Wesley’s Norwich counterpart, the 43.5%-owned Teemu Pukki (£7.2m), could only dream of receiving such praise.

After three double-digit returns from his first five matches, the Finn has now blanked for three straight Gameweeks.

Norwich attacked throughout on Saturday – the top four players for penalty area touches all came from the home side, with Pukki among them.

But the Finland international managed just two shots, neither of which were on target, and has had just seven attempts across his current barren spell.

It is no surprise, therefore, that he is currently Gameweek 9’s most-sold player, even with a trip to a Bournemouth side without a clean sheet to come next.

The Canaries’ other popular asset, the 25.7%-owned Todd Cantwell (£4.9m), survived an injury scare to start against Villa, but he also blanked for a third Gameweek running.

He did at least out-shoot Pukki and he was also joint-top with Emiliano Buendia (£6.0m) for chances created among the home players. And the third-most-owned Norwich player in FPL? That would be goalkeeper McGovern (5.6%).

The 380,000+ Fantasy geniuses who have the Canaries’ third-choice stopper in their squads would have walked away with nine points yesterday courtesy of his penalty heroics, six other saves and two bonus points.

But that was if – and it’s a big if – he wasn’t languishing on their benches in all his £4.0m glory.

Glory was certainly far from Farke’s mind post-match:

We have to accept this loss. We made too many mistakes. We created maybe more than they did in the first half, but the mistakes and the goals we were conceded were not good enough. We had so many on the pitch playing with pain killers and they have not been able to train properly this week. So really we are not prepared as we need to be. Then in addition, one or two crucial players do not have their best day. – Daniel Farke

In truth, only McGovern had his best day against Villa, and even he looked nervy before his spot-kick save.

As for the rest of the players, the international break looks to have come at just the right time, allowing them to escape overseas, take a break or recover from injury – whatever is needed to reverse a slide that is looking unstoppable at the moment.

How many Fantasy managers keep faith in the likes of Pukki and Cantwell before November’s final break of the year is unclear. Their fixtures are okay – Bournemouth and Brighton away, Man United and Watford at Carrow Road – but their form is anything but.

Members Analysis

Norwich (4-2-3-1): McGovern; Aarons, Amadou, Godfrey, Lewis; Leitner, McLean; Buendia, Stiepermann (Roberts 76′), Cantwell (Srbeny 80′); Pukki (Drmic 84′).

Aston Villa (4-3-3): Heaton; Guilbert, Engels (Konsa 75′), Mings, Targett; McGinn, Nakamba, Hourihane (Douglas Luiz 78′); El Ghazi (Trezeguet 64′), Wesley, Grealish.

Lessons learned from Gameweek 8

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  1. DMP
    7 years, 1 month ago

    A) Wildcard
    B) Save WC (-4)
    C) Bring Abraham for Barnes (-8)

    ————-Ryan————————
    —Robbo Otamendi Soy Tomori—
    Salah Sterling Kdb Mount Mcginn
    ———— Wilson (C) —————-
    Button Barnes Lundstram Greenwood

    1. Old Wulfrunian
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I would start Barnes and bench Soy.B.

      1. DMP
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Don’t fancy Burnley. Kind of tired of Barnes, but, you might be right.

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Team still look good without WC ... if you are prepared to take on the chin Vardy and Tammy parties

      1. DMP
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Not prepared. That’s why I’m considering that -8 for Abraham.

        1. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 years, 1 month ago

          WC mate, liberating 🙂

          1. DMP
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Just took the -8. lol

            Might WC later if any pressing issue.

  2. camarozz
    7 years, 1 month ago

    So mentioned these moves earlier today.

    Pukki+Son➡️Auba+Tieleman

    No one too Kean of Tieleman even with those fixtures??

    Have exact money so Pukki drop tonight rules this out...

    1. On The Up
      7 years, 1 month ago

      would rather vardy and someone else

    2. Sting
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Wilson + Maddison?

      1. g40steve
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Nice.

    3. @fpl_phenom
      7 years, 1 month ago

      are you any way concerned about aubamayang being pushed wide with lacazettes return after the int break ?

      also Abraham and Vardy should keep up with him given their fixtures....

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, Laca back may see Auba hit a rough patch on the wing.

    4. Sting
      7 years, 1 month ago

      can you just sell pukki? son plays watford next and could easily bag a brace

      1. camarozz
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Need to sell Son if I'm to upgrade Pukki I'm afriad.

        1. ‘Tis the Season
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Sold Son and Pukki for mount and C Wilson tonight

    5. AndyCook
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I’d rather two more evenly priced players, Vardy and Maddison for example

  3. On The Up
    7 years, 1 month ago

    WC Thought?

    Pope Button
    TAA Soyuncu tomori lundstram Rico
    Sterling Mane KDB Mount 4.5
    Vardy Wilson Abraham

    What do you reckon?

    1. Relaxing
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Basically identical to my draft

      1. Relaxing
        7 years, 1 month ago

        So I like it

    2. pjanns
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Nope. All good in my opinion.

    3. Old Wulfrunian
      7 years, 1 month ago

      save imo.

      1. On The Up
        7 years, 1 month ago

        that would be my wildcard

        1. Old Wulfrunian
          7 years, 1 month ago

          Oh my bad.Good team.

    4. Gringo Kid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      That team costs 104 ITB

      1. On The Up
        7 years, 1 month ago

        already had half of them my TV was 103.8

    5. JIMMY TUGGINS
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I can't even afford that team starting Lund every week with more fodders.

      1. On The Up
        7 years, 1 month ago

        wildcarded early and got pukki mount lund abraham at starting price

    6. Sting
      7 years, 1 month ago

      very template, very good

    7. g40steve
      7 years, 1 month ago

      That’s my idea of perfect front three.

    8. Sting
      7 years, 1 month ago

      i’d be 0.5 off that team. insane transfer value

      1. On The Up
        7 years, 1 month ago

        yeah wildcarded early and got pukki mount lund abraham at starting price

    9. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      My current team is below so I really like your WC team except Tamori!

      Pope Button
      TAA VVD Otamendi Soyunca Lundstram
      Mane KDB Mount 4.5 4.5
      Aguero Wilson Abraham

      1. On The Up
        7 years, 1 month ago

        i like it, just got fed up with expensive defense thought sterling and vardy would make up for it.

      2. FOO FIGHTER
        7 years, 1 month ago

        You can do so much more with your team shifting Kun.

  4. internal error
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 1 month ago

    From looking at the WCs on this page, I can see people are going without sterling and/or Aguero. Villa and Southampton at home look really good fixtures. City will be fine when KDB is back

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      *previous page now

      1. On The Up
        7 years, 1 month ago

        still got sterling and kdb

    2. FOO FIGHTER
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Opposition teams have now seen what Wolves did to City's defence. Other teams will now start taking City on the counter. City panicked and Wolves caught them out a second time.

      Ota and Fernandinho are slow. City will not be able to afford playing a high line going forward even with KDB back.

  5. Sting
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Have 2 FTs

    A) Pieters + Cantwell + Haller >> Lowton + Maddison + Wilson (-4)

    OR

    B) Cantwell + Haller >> Yarmolenko + Vardy

    1. Sting
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Could do Mcginn instead of Yarmo

    2. AndyCook
      7 years, 1 month ago

      A

  6. Ziyech on the Bench
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Salah to Mane before price rise? Got 2FT 1.0 ITB, next gameweek McGinn to Maddison

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Salah to Mane is so bloody sideways.

  7. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Assuming all fit would you be happy with this team going into week 9?

    Pope
    TAA Söyüncü Otamendi Rico
    Salah Sterling KDB Mount
    Vardy Abraham

    McGovern Cantwell Greenwood Diop

    1. jmcclory123
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Very happy

    2. Sting
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Yep good team

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Ota was like cheese being grated today. I would shift him ASAP.

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Thanks. Made free transfers getting Vardy and Söyüncü. Would’ve been priced out tomorrow. Would like to get Tierney for attacking potential and I think he will start after IB so may take -4 or play Otamendi one more week and then make move free

  8. Alli
    7 years, 1 month ago

    A) Salah, Pukki > Mané, C.Wilson
    B) Digne, Pukki > Kelly/Rico, Vardy
    C) Wait/Other

    2 FT - 0.2 ITB

    Ryan - Heaton
    VVD - Otamendi - Diop - Digne- Dunk
    Salah - Sterling - KDB - Cantwell - Mount
    Pukki - Tammy - Greenwood

    1. jamie1972
      7 years, 1 month ago

      About to do similar to A, (only Sterling rather than Salah) for whatever that's worth

  9. dshv
    7 years, 1 month ago

    WC

    Pope
    Robbo, lund, rico, kelly, soy
    Sterling, mane, mount, maddison, dendo
    Wilson, auba, abraham

    ,?

    1. Werner Bremen
      7 years, 1 month ago

      KDB

    2. On The Up
      7 years, 1 month ago

      vardy kdb

    3. FOO FIGHTER
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Sterling to KDB.

  10. danlynch13
    7 years, 1 month ago

    A) Pukki > Wilson
    B) Haller > Vardy

    Leaning towards b. What do you guys think?

    1. Old Wulfrunian
      7 years, 1 month ago

      a

  11. Pedersen
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Did Saka seem good today? His stats says pretty offensive for 4.5m mid

    1. JIMMY TUGGINS
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Bench when Laca is back, likely after IB.

    2. Tempestic
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Laca will probably be back after the internationals which doesn't bode well. Might be a good impact sub for them but not sure about more than that. Unless he drops Pepe instead that is?

      1. Pedersen
        7 years, 1 month ago

        He cant. Would mean admitting failure to drop Pepe...

  12. SkeletONv01
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Need to shift one of Sterling and Salah > Mane to have enough cash for a Cantwell > Mount move. Who to shift? 😐 Really think that doubling up with Mo and Mane could bring decent points agains ManU and Spurs. Also have KDB for city.

  13. Bobby_Baggio
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Thoughts on this WC team please people? Thanks

    Pope - McGovern
    Chambers - Soyuncu - Ota - Robbo - Lund
    Mane - KDB - Yarmo - Mount - Nakamba
    Vardy - Auba - Abraham

    1. AndyCook
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Vardy to Wilson, Maddison over Yarmolenko? Alexander-Arnold over Robertson somehow, would probably avoid Chambers he’s not guaranteed game time

      1. Bobby_Baggio
        7 years, 1 month ago

        cheers

  14. Magic Zico
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Jimenez looked really good today ... damn he is cheaper than C Wilson

    1. JIMMY TUGGINS
      7 years, 1 month ago

      By a fair bit too, I might move Wilson to him after his next two.

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Ahh man, you are copying me 🙂

    2. Tsparkes10
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Love him as a pick, is it a trap though especially with Europe

      1. Magic Zico
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 years, 1 month ago

        The worrying part yes ... we just wish

    3. LMFAO
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Just did Pukki to Jimmy.

  15. Werner Bremen
    7 years, 1 month ago

    What do you say?

    A Auba and Maddison

    B Vardy and Mahrez

    1. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      A

  16. Manani
    7 years, 1 month ago

    any good mid for 9.5m and under?

    rest of mid are
    KDB Mane Mount Dendocker

    1. FF Dirtbag
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Maddison

    2. AndyCook
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Mahrez if B Silva gets a ban?

  17. Relaxing
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone tempted by Traore after today?

    1. Niho992
      7 years, 1 month ago

      nope. Jimenez is only player from Wolves who i would consider, and maybe Boly.

      1. Relaxing
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Interesting, thanks

    2. AndyCook
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Probably not, played as wing back until a late substitution

    3. Tsparkes10
      7 years, 1 month ago

      If he was a defender then sure

  18. ZeBestee
    7 years, 1 month ago

    I have CHO, keep him for longer? Chances of him being nailed on based on todays display?

    1. Werner Bremen
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Why not

    2. AndyCook
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I would keep but he’s a rotation risk

  19. Banana Boat
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Best 4.4? Dendoncker or Nakamba or someone else?

  20. Desert Phoenix
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Anyone know what LMS score? Ta

    1. ZeBestee
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Should be around average, around 35/6

    2. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I think it was 30.

    3. Desert Phoenix
      7 years, 1 month ago

      28 wont cut it then. Gutted

  21. ZeBestee
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Why is Ricardo Pereira overlooked on here?

    1. Relaxing
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Soy

      1. ZeBestee
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Soy offers no attacking threat, Pereira has been really good recently.

        1. St Pauli Walnuts
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 years, 1 month ago

          True but it's a hefty saving and if you use it smartly you can potentially more than offset the attacking returns elsewhere. Still, he's certainly a great pick.

          1. Relaxing
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Beat me to it

        2. Relaxing
          7 years, 1 month ago

          I don't dispute that but Soy has been great value as people llok to shift money from the back to the front. Pereira is definitely a good option from now on though

    2. Poseidon.
      7 years, 1 month ago

      He’s 3rd in the watchlist and in loads of teams

    3. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      6.1M

      1. ZeBestee
        7 years, 1 month ago

        VVD is 6.5 and in many teams.

        1. Magic Zico
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          7 years, 1 month ago

          He does not play for Leicester

          1. Niho992
            7 years, 1 month ago

            Leicester is 2nd defence in the league so far

            1. Magic Zico
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              7 years, 1 month ago

              And Liverpool is number?

              1. Niho992
                7 years, 1 month ago

                First. So what ?

                1. Magic Zico
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  No logic in all of this 🙂

              2. ZeBestee
                7 years, 1 month ago

                Fixtures suggest Lei have a better chance of more CS in the next 4/5.

                1. Magic Zico
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  7 years, 1 month ago

                  Then pick him mate I am settled with Soyuncu

  22. FPL_DON
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Chances KDB will be fit next GW?

    1. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Pep said he will so guess we should take him at face value, he hasn't really got form for being misleading.

    2. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Come back in two weeks time mate

    3. Niho992
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Kdb didnt start 2 games this season. They lost both. He will start.

  23. Old Wulfrunian
    7 years, 1 month ago

    I want so much to get Tierney but Kola won't loose his place so easily.It would be interesting to see Emery's plans.

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      ARS defense, lots to prove before considering

      1. ‘Tis the Season
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Stay.away

  24. St Pauli Walnuts
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    7 years, 1 month ago

    How's she looking for GW9? Ta

    Pope
    TAA / Soy / Ota
    Mane / KDB / Madd / Mount
    Auba / Vardy / Tammy

    Button / Rico / Cantwell / Lund

    1. AndyCook
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Like a wildcard team

      1. St Pauli Walnuts
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Cool, I'll take than considering it's not. The WC went ages ago ha.

        1. AndyCook
          7 years, 1 month ago

          It’s very good. I almost don’t want to bench Rico but like you I think I will

          1. St Pauli Walnuts
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            7 years, 1 month ago

            It wouldn't surprise me if Ota is dropped next game as he was that bad today (and all season really) so Rico may well come in anyway. I'm half tempted to drop him myself ha.

    2. Cookie Kid
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I’m on WC and looking at this (with Ota downgrade as you have good TV), just need to find balls to drop both Salah and Sterling

      1. St Pauli Walnuts
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Ota will probably be my next transfer out (likely for Tomori), he is playing horrifically and is only in the team because there's no one else (apart from kids). Stones maybe back soon so Pep may well drop him then.

        Yes dropping the two big S is definitely a risk but as a City fan who sees plenty of Sterling, I just don't think he in involved enough at the moment to justify the outlay. Mane isn't going to be far off Salah point at the end of the season so I'm happy with that for now. I've got 0.7 ITB so am flexible at least.

    3. Tsparkes10
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Wtf. Very very similar to mine but I need to go Wilson over Tammy. Gg to your TV mate

      1. Tsparkes10
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Aubameyang*

  25. Niho992
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Son to Maddison anyone ? Yeah, Son have great next fixture, but i think he will be benched.

    1. ZeBestee
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Go for it then, but am keeping personally.

      1. Niho992
        7 years, 1 month ago

        i dont know yet. I will wait ofc

    2. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I've just done it but only because I wanted the extra dosh to do Pukki to Vardy for free as part of it. If you're only doing one transfer I'd wait unless clear indication is Son isn't going to play.

  26. Cookie Kid
    7 years, 1 month ago

    The year is 2023 and Kevin de Bruyne has still not fallen in price

    1. Magic Zico
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Here we go ... the question of the IB

      1. Cookie Kid
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Hot topic

  27. liiusions
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Ditch Wood or Pukki for Tammy?

  28. aidmata
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Would you WC this team?

    Pope Button

    TAA Otamendi Lundstram Tomori Digne

    Mount Sterling Salah KDB Dendoncker

    Pukki Abraham Greenwood

    1. Tsparkes10
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Yup. Just

    2. Relaxing
      7 years, 1 month ago

      nah, would be looking to shift Pukki though.

    3. Niho992
      7 years, 1 month ago

      I would. You can get Vardy/Auba, Mane instead Salah. I would ditch Digne too, maybe Pukki, Greenwood definitely etc

  29. camarozz
    7 years, 1 month ago

    Tomori nailed now or what??

    1. KNOW IT ALL
      7 years, 1 month ago

      yeah think so

  30. Ziyech on the Bench
    7 years, 1 month ago

    How did Pukki look today?

    1. Cookie Kid
      7 years, 1 month ago

      Pretty fresh after his low-intensity performance yesterday

      1. ‘Tis the Season
        7 years, 1 month ago

        Lol