Pre-Season

The best mid-price and premium FPL defenders for 2020/21

Our position-by-position analysis of the Fantasy Premier League options for 2020/21 continues as we scrutinise the premium defenders on offer.

In this article, we will weigh up the pros and cons of the 91 defensive assets currently available at £5.0m or above.

We’ll have more in-depth analysis to come between now and Gameweek 1 but these are our initial thoughts on the FPL player price list.

The £6.0m+ Premiums

A total of 11 Fantasy Premier League defenders are available for £6.0m or more, although one, Ricardo Pereira (£6.0m), is likely to be out of commission come Gameweek 1 and another, Marcos Alonso (£6.0m), is a real rotation risk.

A price rise to £7.5m hasn’t put many off Trent Alexander-Arnold and, at the time of writing, he is the most popular asset in the entire game.

Given that the two Manchester clubs and Burnley (three of the most solid teams at the back in 2020) blank in Gameweek 1, Liverpool defenders will be even more desirable for their opening-day clash with Leeds United.

We have covered Alexander-Arnold, Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) and Virgil van Dijk (£6.5m) in some detail in a stand-alone piece, so, rather than retreading old ground, we’ll point you in the direction of that article.

As for the rest, Matt Doherty (£6.0m) stands out.

Only Alexander-Arnold provides better value among FPL defenders than Doherty based on points per million (2019/20 points and 2020/21 prices) and in two successive seasons has the Irishman delivered more than 10 attacking returns.

A big tick against Wolves’ name is that they won’t be involved in European club competition this season, so they won’t be afflicted by the Thursday-Sunday turnaround that plagued them in 2019/20 and led to some early-season rotation from Nuno Espirito Santo.

From Gameweek 25 onwards, Wolves were one of the most in-form Premier League teams from a defensive perspective, with nine clean sheets kept in their final 14 games.

At the other end of the pitch, no FPL defender had more shots in the box or big chances than Doherty last season.

Wolves have one of the more appealing runs of matches in the first seven Gameweeks, save for the visit of Manchester City – a team they beat twice last season, of course.

Speaking of the Citizens, the absence of a Gameweek 1 fixture for Pep Guardiola’s side will leave many FPL managers looking elsewhere for defensive options.

It’s worth reminding ourselves that, for all their critics, City’s backline still registered more Premier League clean sheets (17) than any other team last season.

Eight of them arrived in Aymeric Laporte‘s (£6.0m) 14 starts and he looks the pick of City’s three defenders at this price point.

As happened to Kevin De Bruyne (£11.5m) at the start of 2019/20, Laporte has dropped in price after an injury-affected campaign.

But the Frenchman was as good as nailed in the previous season, starting 34 of the 35 matches he was fully fit for.

Always capable of grabbing a goal, he recorded six attacking returns in that title-winning campaign too.

The capture of Nathan Ake (£5.5m) is something to keep an eye on, though, with the former Bournemouth man, like Laporte, more at home on the left-hand side of defence.

Lucas Digne (£6.0m) and Cesar Azpilicueta (£6.0m) round off the whistle-stop tour of the top-of-the-range FPL defenders.

Two of the more secure starters at clubs whose managers like to rotate, the pair were ranked second and fourth for chances created among Fantasy defenders last season.

Both Everton and Chelsea have some decent fixtures to come in the opening two months of the season but, as we’ll discuss in the sections below, there are questions to be asked about their defensive prowess under their current bosses.

Still, with eight attacking returns apiece to their names and their underlying stats catching the eye, any upturn in fortune on the clean sheet front will catapult them back into the premium defender conversation – if they weren’t already.

The gung-ho Alonso of course warrants a namecheck after his late-season return to the Chelsea starting XI but, with Ben Chilwell (£5.5m) heavily linked to the west London side, we’ll temporarily shelve any talk of a Fantasy renaissance for the Spaniard.

Cheaper Big-Six Options

As for the cheaper Manchester City and Liverpool assets available for less than £6.0m, only Joe Gomez (£5.5m) is someone we could confidently predict a start for at this early stage.

Gomez became a permanent fixture at centre-half during Liverpool’s incredible run of shut-outs from Gameweek 16 onwards, although offers nothing but clean sheet potential and had only one shot in the whole of last season.

Unless there are any pre-season injuries picked up by the Reds’ regulars at the back, Konstantinos Tsimikas (£5.0m) and Joel Matip (£5.0m) will surely begin 2020/21 as mere back-ups at best.

There are also too many options for Pep Guardiola at centre-half for Nathan Ake (£5.5m), Nicolas Otamendi (£5.0m), John Stones (£5.0m), Eric Garcia (£5.0m) and even Fernandinho (£5.5m) to be considered trustworthy punts at the time of writing, although the veteran Brazilian will likely now see more ‘out of position’ run-outs in the middle of the park.

Oleksandr Zinchenko (£5.5m) and Joao Cancelo (£5.5m) couldn’t be relied on to start in any given Gameweek, either, despite the Portuguese belatedly finding favour at left-back at the end of last season.

As ever, the situation at City is a shifting one and needs to be constantly reappraised – an injury to the left-footed Laporte, for example, would surely mean that Ake would become a more dependable starter in what was the Premier League’s best defence for clean sheets in 2019/20.

Manchester United blank in Gameweek 1 but some appealing matches follow straight after and the Red Devils have been one of the form teams at the back in 2020.

No side has kept more clean sheets this calendar year, while only their cross-city rivals conceded on fewer occasions from Gameweek 21 onwards.

Providing he isn’t incarcerated, the ever-present Harry Maguire (£5.5m) is as secure a starter as they come and no centre-back had more shots than the England international last season – although only one led to a goal.

Aaron Wan-Bissaka (£5.5m) showed an upturn in attacking output this year, too, with three of his four assists arriving after New Year’s Day.

There’s still a bit of work to be done from an offensive perspective, however – as an example, Robertson created over three times as many chances as the United right-back in the post-lockdown era.

If he is fit (and that’s a big ‘if’), Luke Shaw is the obvious pick of the seven United defenders at £5.0m.

No attacking returns last season was a disappointment but his minutes-per-chance-created average was better than Wan-Bissaka’s in 2019/20.

Pre-season will be a good indicator as to whether Mikel Arteta still favours a 3-4-3 heading into the new season and will hopefully tell us whether the highly rated Willian Saliba (£4.5m) can be a reliable budget asset in 2020/21.

As for the Gunners’ more expensive options, not one of their six £5.0m defensive options could be perceived as being ‘nailed’ at this early stage.

Even Hector Bellerin (£5.0m), now available at his lowest price since 2014/15, faces a challenge from Ainsley Maitland-Niles (£5.0m) and Cedric Soares (£5.0m) down the right as Arteta again prepares to juggle his options on the domestic front and in the UEFA Europa League.

Other than the wobble he had immediately after lockdown, David Luiz (£5.5m) has been a permanent fixture at the heart of the Arsenal backline under Arteta and couldn’t be bettered for shots or chances created among his defensive teammates following the change of manager.

Kieran Tierney (£5.5m) is perhaps the more appealing option at this price point, though, with glimmers of his potential (one goal, two assists and seven starts in Arsenal’s final eight league games of 2019/20) belatedly arriving after an injury-ravaged campaign.

While the opening two fixtures are enticing, interest might be short-lived: the Gunners meet four of last season’s top five and Sheffield United between Gameweeks 3-7.

Jose Mourinho’s ‘second season’ is usually his best and, after some mixed displays in the campaign just gone, there were signs of some improvement towards the end of 2019/20.

Four of the seven clean sheets that Tottenham Hotspur kept under their new manager came after the restart, which perhaps bodes well for the favourable opening fixtures to come.

Eight Spurs defenders are available for £5.0m-£5.5m and, as the numbers would suggest, not all will be starters come Gameweek 1.

Arguably the most appealing of them from an attacking perspective, Serge Aurier (£5.5m), may not even be at the club, with the Ivorian linked with a move away from north London this summer.

Mourinho has previously hailed the importance of Ben Davies (£5.0m) to his system but, although he has been a regular starter when fit, the Welshman tends to tuck in to become a third centre-half when the Lilywhites attack and doesn’t offer the offensive menace that Aurier provided.

Toby Alderweireld (£5.5m) and Eric Dier (£5.0m) may well be the first-choice options at centre-half if the post-lockdown line-ups were anything to go by (Dier came straight back into the side after suspension) but, should they continue to shape up in a lopsided back four, perhaps the best FPL defender from Spurs isn’t even at the club yet – that is, an attacking right-back in the Aurier mould.

A vast improvement at the back is required for Chelsea next season, with no team in the top half conceding more goals than the Blues in 2019/20.

Only five sides in the division kept fewer clean sheets, meanwhile.

Saying that, their goalkeepers have a lot to answer for as only four clubs had a superior ‘expected goals conceded’ (xGC) total.

Pinning Frank Lampard down to a regular centre-half pairing proved problematic last season with even defensive mainstay Antonio Rudiger (£5.0m) briefly losing his place in the run-in.

The one to watch at this price point is perhaps Reece James (£5.0m), whose offensive attributes caught the eye; of the Chelsea backline, only Alonso had a better minutes-per-chance-created average.

So long as the versatile Azpilicueta remains fit and available, though, there is always the risk of a maddening benching for the youngster.

Top-Half Options

Wolves’ Jonny (£5.5m) is out long-term with a knee injury, while Jonny Evans (£5.5m) will miss the first three matches of the season through suspension and it’s not yet clear whether Ben Chilwell (£5.5m) will recover from a heel injury to be available for Gameweek 1 – or, indeed, whether he’ll be sticking around at Leicester City.

Caglar Soyuncu (£5.5m), who has been handed a £1.0m starting price rise, is the only member of what was the Foxes’ regular back four in 2019/20 who isn’t red-flagged at present.

Leicester have some appealing matches in the opening five Gameweeks of the campaign but with three-quarters of the first-choice backline possibly unavailable, there have to be questions asked as to how watertight they will be even against more favourable opposition.

Wolves’ regular centre-halves, along with their crocked left wing-back, are all available in the mid-price bracket.

Nuno Espirito Santo’s side have some appealing matches from Gameweeks 3-7 and even an opening-day trip to Sheffield United, who aren’t renowned for their goalscoring exploits, offers clean sheet potential.

Wolves kept nine shut-outs in their final 14 games last season, a period that coincided with Willy Boly‘s (£5.5m) return from injury.

He and especially Romain Saiss (£5.0m) traditionally offer something that Conor Coady (£5.0m) very much doesn’t, namely goal threat from set plays.

Boly, who scored on four occasions in 2018/19, didn’t really get in the mix last season but Saiss was in the thick of it, registering more big chances than all bar two FPL defenders.

Boly and Coady are pretty much nailed when fit, while Saiss isn’t far behind them, with only two benchings from Gameweek 15 onwards – both in periods of fixture congestion.

No involvement in European club competition this season can surely only help on the rotation risk front.

Sheffield United also only have the league and domestic cups to focus on after flirting with a European qualification spot last season.

All five of their first-choice defenders have predictably been handed price rises after their superb first season back in the Premier League in which they registered 13 clean sheets.

To sum up their defensive assets in one line: John Egan (£5.0m) presents their biggest goal threat from dead-ball situations, while wing-backs Enda Stevens (£5.5m) and George Baldock (£5.5m) are unsurprisingly streets ahead of the centre-halves in terms of creativity.

Liverpool’s two full-backs were the only two FPL defenders who created more big chances than Stevens in 2019/20.

Rotation is happily not an issue with Chris Wilder, although fixtures in the opening eight Gameweeks might be with five of last season’s top eight facing the Blades.

You can read our thoughts on how Aaron Ramsdale‘s (£5.0m) capture will affect the Blades’ backline here, meanwhile.

A blank in Gameweek 1 and the availability of Burnley’s full-backs for £4.5m will put many off James Tarkowski (£5.5m) and Ben Mee (£5.0m).

The two centre-backs are at least nailed (when fit) under a manager who seldom rotates, while Tarkowski has hit five attacking returns in each of the last two campaigns.

While the Clarets may struggle to emulate last season’s total of 15 clean sheets, we know exactly what we are getting from a Sean Dyche-led side: in the five Premier League campaigns that he has overseen, Burnley have hit double figures for shut-outs in four of them.

No FPL defender personally kept more clean sheets than Tarkowski in 2019/20, while not a single defensive asset who now costs less than £6.0m scored more points than the Burnley stopper last season.

The Best – and Worst – of the Rest

Despite making good progress in his rehabilitation, Patrick van Aanholt (£5.5m) looks set to miss the start of the season with a dislocated shoulder.

Fabian Schar (£5.0m) is another who is touch and go for the beginning of the new campaign but the Swiss international had been playing second fiddle for a lot of 2019/20 anyway and Steve Bruce’s move to a back four (ergo one less centre-half) further dented his prospects.

From Gameweek 10 onwards, Federico Fernandez (£5.0m) started every match in the Newcastle defence.

He also racked up over three times as many bonus points (13) than any other Newcastle defender but the move to a more offensive 4-2-3-1 may have come at the expense of solidity at the back, with only two clean sheets arriving in the post-lockdown era.

Even accounting for Aston Villa’s late-season defensive improvement and his undoubted goal threat, it was still a surprise to see Tyrone Mings priced up at £5.0m.

A blank for the Villans in Gameweek 1 effectively seals his no-go status for the time being at least.

With West Ham United’s fixtures arguably the worst in the division in the first two months, Aaron Cresswell (£5.0m) and Angelo Ogbonna (£5.0m) also scream ‘avoid’.

Two newly promoted defenders enter at the £5.0m mark, with West Bromwich Albion’s Semi Ajayi likely to offer security of starts and a goal threat from centre-half.

The Baggies weren’t overly impressive at the back in 2019/20, however, and few managers will surely take a punt with the fixtures on the tricky side in the opening three Gameweeks.

Fulham’s schedule is better in the medium term but with the Cottagers snapping up left-back Antonee Robinson this week, we’ll have to bide our time to see how the USA international’s arrival affects Joe Bryan (£5.0m) – will he be ‘out of position’ further up the left flank or perhaps offloaded?

Which FPL players will be nearing a suspension when the season restarts?

There is a lot to like about Lewis Dunk (£5.0m), who has just signed a new five-year deal with Brighton and Hove Albion to (temporarily) put rumours of a move away from the south coast to bed.

Not one bona fide centre-half registered more attacking returns (six) or attempts on goal (31) than Dunk in the Premier League last season, while he was largely immune to the rotation that plagued other Brighton assets, starting 36 top-flight matches.

The Seagulls didn’t rack up too many clean sheets (nine) in 2019/20, while Albion’s opening fixtures aren’t great with Chelsea and Manchester United waiting in the first three Gameweeks.

While the price rise is off-putting, Dunk is one to watch for when the matches become more winnable and it’ll be interesting to see if Brighton can make strides at the back following investment in the promising Tariq Lamptey (£4.5m) and Ajax’s Joel Veltman (£4.5m).

Two teams with more favourable opening schedules are Everton and Southampton.

Yan Valery (£5.0m) is bemusingly more expensive than Kyle Walker-Peters (£4.5m) despite the expectation that he will start the season as back-up at right-back, while the availability of cheaper options in the Saints defence is a deterrent regarding Ryan Bertrand (£5.0m) and Jack Stephens (£5.0m).

Not one FPL defender priced up at £5.0m or less this season created more chances than Bertrand in 2019/20, however.

As for Everton, five clean sheets in 20 Premier League matches under Carlo Ancelotti doesn’t scream ‘must own’.

Yerry Mina (£5.5m) has yet to really follow up on the offensive threat he exhibited at the 2018 World Cup, having only scored three Premier League goals in two years at Everton, although his minutes-per-chance average last season was the second-best among centre-backs.

The chief problem with the Toffees’ centre-halves is security of starts, with Ancelotti having previously gone on record to say that he would rotate in that position.

Mina and Michael Keane (£5.0m) have been the most at risk so far, although Mason Holgate (£5.0m) has been less affected (15 starts and one benching).

With Everton expected to reinforce their options at right-back following loanee Djibril Sidibe’s departure, a question over how ‘nailed’ Seamus Coleman (£5.0m) is also has to be considered; the Irishman was benched in seven of the 20 games that his manager oversaw.

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  1. tc93
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Looks like Sancho isnt going to United now.. Guess Greenwood automatically comes into everyones team now?

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Unless they sign another RW.

      1. tc93
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        yea who else are they looking at?

        1. amitmishr
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Koman, brooks, benardeschi and Costa based on rumours.

          Only brooks probably fits Woodward criteria, but he is too cheap for Woodward. Unless Bournemouth demands 50 mn, doubt Woodward would be interested

        2. Thescaff
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          No one else.
          Sancho is the summer target.
          Utd are notoriously bad at getting deals done quickly.

      2. amitmishr
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        With Woodward, you never know. He might just go for an overpriced player we don't need ala Sanchez.
        I think he will cough out 60-70 mn for kante as our only purchase this season.

        1. tc93
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          You recon they're going to get Kante? Could be great for their defensive assets?

          1. amitmishr
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Yup, kante, if Chelsea sell him to us would be a great asset, barring injuries. Have liked him as a player, just that, there are bigger fires in the squad right now.

            Also, agree that no big rw player allows greenwood plenty of time and he could be a great enabler for the rest of the squad

            1. Old Man
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Why would Lampard sell Kante? He'd be bonkers to do that - he's about the only defensive plug in his whole team..

              1. amitmishr
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Apparently based on news reports. Personally, I will pick kante as dm above anyone else

                1. Old Man
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Hadn't heard that - I'd be very surprised if it went though.

        2. tc93
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Either way- I'm really liking the Greenwood choice now Sancho isnt coming. Greenwood would surely start over Brooks even if they sign him

    2. Witty Pun: Not good at this…
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nah. Don't think he'll keep goalscoring at his current rate and is a mediocre winger - a fantastic talent, but clearly uncomfortable on the wing.

    3. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nah not at the moment. For me its either Bruno and Jimi/I go or Greenwood and Martial. I think Bruno and Jimi are better. If Brewster gets loaned to a PL team that could free some cash up.

    4. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'd except at least some signing on wings

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        One not some*

  2. dshv
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Mccarthy nyland
    Taa justin egan (vinagre, ferguson)
    Salah son auba saint armstrong
    Mitro werner (wicham)

    1. This. And gw2 son to bruno
    2. Armstrong to greenwood and bench gw1?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      2

  3. Dirty Harry
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    First draft, looking at Kane with those favourable fixtures.

    McCarthy (4.0)
    TAA Aurier Vinagre/Taylor (Ferguson)
    Salah Auba Maddison Armstrong (4.5)
    Kane Werner (4.5)

    I guess if Greenwood is going to remain starter I could drop Aurier to a 5.0 and up Maddison to make Greenwood into the team. No City there, mainly not having KDB sucks, but I guess you can't have them all!

    Thoughts?

    1. Karan14
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Defence too light for a 442 imo.

      1. Dirty Harry
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah unless there is an option to alternate between a 4th mid/5th mid to play 4-4-2 or 3-5-2. Might still be a bit light on in that respect as well.

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'd just consider if you want to be playing Taylor week in week out. Prefer KWP. Defense looks fine besides that. Maddison isn't the greatest option imo. Also prefer Vardy to Kane short term.

      1. Dirty Harry
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        KWP a good shout thanks. If Aurier is not worth the 5.5 could drop and look at two 5.0s if that's a strengthening option

        1. Flair
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Dier/Davies at 5.0 are great options.

      2. Dirty Harry
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Kane + Maddison > Vardy + Greenwood done

  4. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Which sub 5.0 GKs have best chance of CS GW1 aside from McCarthy?

    Johnstone (LEI)
    Martinez (ful) if first choice
    Ryan (CHE)

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Johnstone I guess

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Martinez out of those
      Or Fabianski

      1. Miguel Sanchez
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah but have to knock TAA down to Robertson for a week to get a 5.0

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I see. Martinez would be golden if he seems to nail the spot!

          1. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Problem with Martinez is unless Arteta explicitly says he is first choice then it’s too risky. Even whoever starts the CS next week doesn’t really mean much as it could be a way of placating the Cup keeper this season.

            1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Yep, you are right about this.
              Then i would say Johnstone but who knows. Predicting GK points is very difficult.

              1. Miguel Sanchez
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Think for a one week punt it has to be based on clean sheet chances...

                1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  I guess you are set on double Wol defence but here is a other option to find those .5 needed:
                  Double spurs defence, Davies + Dier

        2. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Can work for a single GW. Or can get destroyed

          1. Miguel Sanchez
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Of course Robertson could outscore TAA too...

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Yup

            2. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              How’s your bench boost team coming along Miguel?

              I did it last year, it was great fun.

              Doing the same this year

              1. Miguel Sanchez
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 7 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Doubling up on Saints, Wolves and Pool defences. Triple Chelsea attack, double West Ham attack. Salah captain. Just need a second 4.5 GK otherwise it's Robertson for TAA to enable a 5.0 option.

                1. J ⚒ Gimme ur Mané
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 9 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Nice! How can you afford that?

                  The second keeper is irritating. I really want Fabianski but him being 5m makes it difficult...

                  My bench boost is struggling because I can’t seem to let go of auba. But realistically, he is sucking the life out of the funds.

                  I’m 0.5 off this currently, but need more info on Saliba and Martínez;

                  Martinez, McCarthy

                  TAA, Doherty, Vinagre, Justin, Saliba

                  Salah (c), auba, Armstrong, ASM, Soucek

                  Werner, ings, Antonio,

                  What’s yours in full?
                  Welcome your thoughts on mine.

  5. Var Var Voom
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Are there many others considering the salah and mane double up for game week 1? Have not seen another draft with this in a very long time.

    Mccarthy
    Taa, Vinagre, Davies, Ferguson
    Salah, Mane, Aubs, Armstrong
    Werner, Mitro
    Subs:Nyland, Taylor, Gordan, Davis

    Gw2=Mane to Kdb
    Gw3=Aubs to Bruno
    Gw4=Armstrong to Greenwood

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Can work if Vinagre and Ferguson are starters

    2. Botman and Robben
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Problem with Salah and Mane is that they never score well together. Trying to remember a time when they both scored in double figure points.

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Last game 18/19 season

        1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          And probably happend after that also but I do remember that one

      2. Goonsquad245
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Don't worry about this, it's just as likely to be happenstance. If you think they're good options individually, go for it.

    3. n14mul
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It works well....i juts would not be comfortable with having to rely on 3 cheap defenders

  6. yousunkmybattleship
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone have any info / articles about benefits of rotating 4.5 GK’s versus set and forget.

    Not currently sold on doing so with say McCarthy and 4.0, fixtures are overall decent but some tough ones in there that would think be better avoiding?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I’m not going for it - but the McCarthy/Ryan rotation only had four GWs out of 38 where you had to play one vs Top 6 side.

      1. yousunkmybattleship
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yep I’m currently on these two

    2. Botman
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      (+) higher points ceiling with rotation
      (-) costs 0.5 extra
      (-) really hard to pick the right option
      (-) will destroy your will to live

      1. yousunkmybattleship
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not worried about will to live, FPL destroys that either way

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          🙂

    3. Sgt Frank Drebin
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      You can find some info here https://mathematicallysafe.wordpress.com/2019/07/01/fpl-analysis-what-five-seasons-of-data-modelling-have-revealed-about-predictive-analysis-fixture-impact-and-optimal-team-structure-in-fantasy-premier-league/

      For cheap goalkeepers it seems that points don't correlate with number of clean sheets kept but more with number of saves. It seems that it is more beneficial to play a GK in all games and save 0.5.

      1. yousunkmybattleship
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks!

    4. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Didnt he hit double figures against man city last season?

      1. yousunkmybattleship
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Seems like an obvious captain choice then this year

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I benched him that Gw.
          It sucks !

        2. The Knights Template
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I think you missed the point through that thick miasma of sarcasm.

          1. yousunkmybattleship
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Or maybe you did?

            1. The Knights Template
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Maybe

    5. Marmalade Forest
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      FPL Mariner on twitter has a quick thread on it.

      Advise always comes from people trying to justify why their move is a good one. The counter argument may be equally valid.

      1. yousunkmybattleship
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Thanks

  7. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Can't get Spurs players in my team, their jersey is so bad...

    1. farmerfat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Im just sick of being trolled by them.

      1. Captain Kakaroto (I blame R…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        LOL that's also.

        1. farmerfat
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I am also very bias (Arsenal fan). Had a few drafts with Kane/Son but they just feel terrible

  8. farmerfat
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Considering doing a bit of a Hokey Cokey by doing Salah - Bruno in GW2 and then back to Salah in gw4.

    Kinda feels a bit strange having planned that.

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Can work if no other issue arise

    2. yousunkmybattleship
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      OK to plan but another issue will likely crop up that uses a transfer. This approach uses 2 (in/out) just on one spot, so not very efficient, but it could pay off.

    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm on that.
      Only will get salah after GW 6.
      Villa & Everton away aren't the fixtures I'm going to © him.

    4. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm doing similar thing. S
      elling Salah fro Bruno in GW2, then selling Auba to get Salah back.
      Probably early WC as well, but that's whole different story...

    5. Chenku╰☆╮
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Price rises will screw you over

  9. Holmes
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Not trying to be over smart but whenever I look at SOU's fixtures, it just doesn't feel good for attacking return, atleast first 3.

    Might have to find someone else to start with instead of Armstrong. Fleck would have been nice...

    1. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Depends on when you want to WC. My target date is around GW10 so I'm happy keeping Armstrong. For another person going for the earlier WC around GW4 SMax may be better. I really hope Eze joins Fulham at 5.5.

      1. Old Man
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Keeping your WC until GW10 could have huge benefits. I'm hoping that I'll mainatin the willpower.

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I'm going to keep till i don't need it !
          (Most probably GW 3/4 😛 )

  10. Bavarian
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    A-Son-Mitrovic-Doherty
    B-Maddison-Kane-Vinagre

    1. Siva Mohan
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

  11. Siva Mohan
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Chelsea are close to finalising a one-year deal for Champions League finalist Thiago Silva.

    The Brazilian centre back is now a free agent and has reportedly chosen to move to Stamford Bridge after eight years with PSG.

    (Source: @David_Ornstein)

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Hopefully a GK to follow...

      1. Siva Mohan
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        yeah but depends on what CHE would do with the deadwood .. for a new goalie they need to sell first

        Kepa, Baka, Emerson, Bats, Drinkwater, one of the CBs etc

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Butland and Foster can both be picked up for less than £10m

          1. Siva Mohan
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Butland is not linked yet ..

            Rennes goalie has seal of approval from Lollichon

            1. Miguel Sanchez
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              The last keeper we signed from Rennes turned out OK.

          2. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Butland

            Good Old days .... 🙂

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      View good deal !

  12. Chelsea91
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    McCarthy
    Taa,Tierney(Aurier or Egan),VVD( If Egan could be Robbo),Vinagre
    Salah,Ziyech,Armstrong,Traore,Son
    Martial,Davies,Mitro

    Good to go?

  13. dshv
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    This is the question

    Can play with greenwood?

    Or a must have Bruno ?

    1. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Depends how you use 3m

    2. European Bob
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Bruno is a captaincy choice, Greenwood isn't really yet

  14. Werner Bremen
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    A Werner, Son, Soucek
    B Vardy, Ziyech, ASM

    1. Siva Mohan
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

      1. Werner Bremen
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Why not Vardy my man? I'd rather have him than any Spurs player.

    2. Now I'm Panicking
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A, A, A

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I would say A bit sounds like you want B so just go for that

      1. Werner Bremen
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Right. It's because I'd want to swap Ziyech for Greenwood later. And Werner has Lpool in the second game. Vardy has Burnley...

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Then do that

    4. Crashjct
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A

    5. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Werner + Ziyech + ASM would be my picks

    6. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      2 from A + 1 from B

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        What's your opinion on Werner ?
        I'm circumspect about him tbh. Thinking about waiting for first 2 gw's to understand which forward to take from them

        1. Werner Bremen
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I'm thinking the same, but don't know really. He could explode right away

  15. dshv
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Is it okay to play 3-5-2 with two mids around 5.5 like armstrong and asm

    Or trying to go for 3-4-3 ?

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It feels like you could get stuff with a 5.5 mid if if you have 2 but maybe leave cash to go up to greenwood

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      One issue with 343 is we have a playing Midfielder at 5 Soucek. But none till 6m in Strikers department. (Discounting bamford Origi)

  16. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Chelsea's xGA were actually very decent from what I heard, main weaknesses were Kepa and individual mistakes from CBs. Even if Silva signs and they get a new GK I doubt I'll have a Chelsea defender for more than two weeks this season but a player like Reece James could be a bargain. Though I'm still not sure what he actually does lmao

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Once the Chelsea attack clicks I suspect the value will be in tripling up there.

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Double enough 😉
        Pulisic Ziyech sounds fun

      2. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Already doubled up, won't be too difficult to add a Pulisic 😛

  17. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Which defence do you prefer out of these, quite like the slight differential of robbo and vvd Both are the same price as well

    1. Robbo,vvd,doh........2x 4.0 - total spend 27.5

    2. Taa,doh,dier,Shaw(bench week 1)..... 4.0 - total spend 27.5

    1. Lebowski85
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      2 looks more balanced but Shaw and Dier don't float my boat

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      None of those

      1. Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Constructive

        1. Amey
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Either pour more money in 1 or take money out from 2

          1. Steve The Spud
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Taa/doh/Vinagre/AWB/Ferguson

            1. Amey
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              This one looks decent. Can swap Vinagre with KWP if Wolves sign a LWB.

              But yes, keep tabs on Shaw fitness. He's more attacking than AWB.

            2. pingissimus
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Still one out - but that's the model defence very nearly 🙂

  18. Amey
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    LOL @ FPL for giving Wolves away to SHU a 4 FDR 😆

    1. Steve The Spud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wolves seem better defensively away from home - got 0-0 written all over it

      Probably be 3-3

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'm backing Wolves to win to nil.

        1. Steve The Spud
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Could be, they fell a bit flat back end of last season but hopefully with a rest they’ll be firing again - I’m starting with jimi I think and if he could nick 1 goal in the first 2 fixtures that would be good

          1. Amey
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            City are his favourite opponent 😉

  19. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Anyone know when Henderson will be back? Could massively impact my view of the Leeds and Chelsea games. Performances are night and day with and without him.

  20. DannyDrinkVodka
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    McCarthy Nyland
    TAA Doherty Bellerin Bavies Justin
    Salah Auba Son Armstrong Soucek
    Werner Mitro Brewster

    Quite happy with this

    1. The Wanton Trader
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      It’s a good team.

      I would however replace Brewster, unless he gets loaned out, because I’d recommend you keep a Pool spot free...

  21. Hotdogs for Tea
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    who will be the whipping boys this year ?

    Villa, Leeds, WBA, Fulham, even Palace or Brighton ?

    1. Right In The Stanchion
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Fulham 200%

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Leeds will be fine, Biesla is too good. Villa may be more secure too if they keep up the double defensive midfielders to protect the defense. Fulham and Villa look like the standouts right now but Palace are absolutely doomed if Zaha leaves.

      1. Hotdogs for Tea
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        not convinced by Leeds, their high tempo press game bullied teams in the Championship that could not pass the ball out from the back ... I think they will be chasing shadows against better teams in the PL.

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        🙂

      3. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Palace's doom won't be Zaha leaving.
        Injuries in Defense might hurt. But RH is experienced enough to avoid that

    3. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Everyone you mentioned minus Villa

    4. George Sillett
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      WBA and Fulham by a distance. Both conceded plenty in the Championship

    5. Hotdogs for Tea
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      would be nice to see an article on this 😉

    6. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      WBA and CPA. Probably FUL as well.

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Palace as whipping boys?

        I quite get why some might have them to go down but to make them whipping boys defies sense to me. They have had one of the steadiest set ups among bottom 12 for 2 seasons now.

        The they lose it's typically by the odd goal in a low scoring match unless they're facing a top away - there they have simply reverted to standard bottom 12 form - look at Burnely v City for example.

        Safe by week 29 (40 points myth) to being trashed by everyone with the same squad, system and manager? If they go down it will be as WBA did - loads of draws and close run defeats

        1. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Whipping boys with respect to conceding goals, not losing.

          I am not sure they have 4 senior fit defenders at the moment ? including the two 4.0 kids

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            There are at least 6

            Defence with Palace starts in midfield. They have the strongest defensive midfield combo in the bottom 12. This is one area - very non FPL - that people tend to overlook when considering Palace. McCarthy was a brilliant signing for instance,

            Names out in defence is a bother no denying but at no stage last season did Palace have anything like a full quartet out.

            Losing I see but conceding goals to "other teams" will likely stay close to where it has for the last 2 seasons imo

            1. Hotdogs for Tea
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              what will be the palace defence line-up in GW1 based upon the injuries that they have now ?

              1. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Next to certain Dann is around - On updated Palace website and two separate and valid sources have him as having extended a while back. Tomorrow we'll know if this is right when preseasons starts. I'd have him partnering Kelly in the middle.

                There's also Jach - Polish international CB - who was off on loan last season. Imagine he'll be part of match day squad anyway until deadline day and waiting on Cahill etc

                That leaves Ward as RB imo and Mitchell and Ferguson for the left. Apparently PvA is relatively close. One of the 4.0s is a natural on the left - the other is simply comfortable there 🙂

                1. Hotdogs for Tea
                  • 8 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  I would respectfully suggest that indicates a lack of PL experience and quality, and that they may concede quite a lot of goals

                  1. pingissimus
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 8 months ago

                    Not sure you can accuse Ward Kelly Dann of lack of PL experience - probably have more combined than most PL defences put together. 😉

                    Quality?

                    1. Hotdogs for Tea
                      • 8 Years
                      3 years, 8 months ago

                      Ward & Kelly are both right backs so competing for one place and we know who will start out of those two.

                      Dann not even at the club and 34 in Feb !

                      That means Mitchell, Ferguson, Kelly (oop), Ward at the moment ... or Mitchell, Ferguson, Dann/Jach, Ward ... mmm

                      You can count Mitchell, Jach & Ferguson PL appearances on one hand and I am not sure you can call any of the other players quality.

                      Don't you think that defence warrants reference to Palace as a team that may be vulnerable at the back and concede goals ?

                      1. pingissimus
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        Kelly is much more a CB these days - only fills in at RB in extremis hence new signing. Arguably he’s one of our steadiest CBs

                        Yes there are issues with injuries no denying. Point I’m trying to make is Palace defence is an 8 man affair - very much system based - and defeats are much more likely to be close low scoring affairs. Thread was potential whipping boys

                      2. pingissimus
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        Should add that imo only one of the names you mention will feature early on - one reason I’m sceptical about the enthusiasm for Ferguson pick.

                        Can always be wrong - but that happens only 99 times a day 🙂

                      3. Hotdogs for Tea
                        • 8 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        I don't think Palace have conceded less that 50 goals a season in recent times and may well concede close to 60 goals this year with what they are likely to have in defence, imho, notwithstanding any defensive mids or formation they adopt. They will be ok against the weaker teams but will get hit for 3 goals or more quite often and that is what I would describe as a 'whipping boy'.

                        There always seems to be at least one established PL team that gets caught up with a relegation battle, loses confidence and goes down ... with money very tight and the injuries and squad Palace have I think they could be the club this year that faces the drop.

                      4. pingissimus
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        On the same basis another ten teams in the division are whipping boys - including Burnley 🙂

                      5. pingissimus
                        • 5 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        Whoops not Burley on your criteria but have you checked how many teams conceded 50 plus last season?

                      6. Hotdogs for Tea
                        • 8 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        yes I did and looked back over 5 seasons or so when the conceded total was over 60, but obviously it changes from season to season.

                        Palace are always at the top of the bottom half for conceding goals and I believe they will drop in to the bottom 5 or 6 this season.

                        Palace hover between the 50 to 55 conceded goals mark and I think they will be pushing 60 this year, will do ok against the weaker teams but face a few serious thrashings - I for one will be captaining any big player against them.

                        Basically their defence as it stands is worse than all other teams, except for the teams promoted.

        2. Hotdogs for Tea
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          good rant though 😉

  22. farmerfat
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Vardy > Kane
    JWP > Armstrong
    ASM > Soucek

    Fight me

    1. Marmalade Forest
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      1) False, but neither seem better than the mids right now
      2) Don’t care
      3) Probably right

    2. Flair
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Agree on Vardy

      Don't particularly know about each and don't care, Armstrong's .5 cheaper and has great reviews so I pick him

      ASM is clearly the better option

    3. Werner Bremen
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Don't know about Armstrong, but the rest is right

  23. Mighty Banana
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I'm seriously considering Mahrez over De Bruyne until around GW 10ish. Allows me to invest elsewhere until the city games get better and I think Mahrez could keep up in the short term and the funds used elsewhere may mean more overall points.

    Mahrez seems to be overlooked this season so far. Brave or Stupid?

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      If he gets minutes no reason why it can't work out

      1. Mighty Banana
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I'm thinking that with Dilva gone, Mahrez gets more minutes. As much as Foden is now in the picture, we're no longer in the end of a season where there's little to fight for, so Foden may not get as many minutes to start of as many are thinking.

        1. KujaliaFC
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Alternatively, Foden has come of age and will step into Dilva's boots.

    2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Brave, not stupid. His PPM is great.
      I'm probably going for KDB + Foden from GW2.

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He was one of the best points to minutes options last season but minutes is the problem. I'm still deciding between Foden and Mahrez as the 6.5 Foden is easier to stomach when benched.

    4. Klaren
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Look at how many times he started over the last 5 games in PL and UCL: 0. And they also added Torres to the rotation this season.

    5. Marmalade Forest
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I thought that in GW38 last season. Got rid of KDB on the FH.

      Didn’t work out well.

      KDB is not only a reliable tick over 6 point a week player, but an explosive 15 every so often too.

      I’d genuinely say as explosive/high ceiling as Sterling and both will outperform Mahrez in the number of double digit hauls.

  24. Scotty Hutch
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hey,
    I just put together a first draft of my team, any advice?

    McCarthy
    VVD TAA Vinagre
    Salah Soucek Aubameyang(C) M.Pereira
    Werner Adams Mitrovic

    Ryan Ferguson Webster Greenwood

    My thinking is to swap Auba > KDB in GW3, reataining the 2 free transfers, and rotate Mitro & Adams in a 3-5-2

  25. Flair
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Was reading FPL General's tweet about Salah and whether we need him. At first I thought "of course, he's amazing" but now I'm wondering if there's a case for going without him for the first few weeks... this applies to me more than most as I'm going with only one premium midfielder but I figure I'd lay down my thoughts here

    Leeds (H): Not as easy as everyone thinks. Leeds are a pretty brilliant team, rated very highly by experts, and Bielsa is a world class manager. I can see it being a low scoring game and if Henderson is out Liverpool are a worse side as shown by the games after the restart. A blank is possible. Henderson's presence is so important my decision is likely to be made on his presence alone.

    Chelsea (A): Most likely a blank, Chelsea have conceded 1 goal in their last 6 home games - that too a gorgeous free kick. Defensive upgrades arriving too.

    Arsenal (H): Sure, he destroyed them last time but Arteta's Arsenal are a different prospect. They've had a few outstanding defensive performances for him. A goal is possible but am I confident enough in him to captain? Unlikely.

    Villa (A): Villa's improved defensive performance and Salah's away record come to the thoughts here. Not a comfortable captain, again.

    Everton (A): Has been 0-0 past three years, will be 0-0 again.

    Sheffield United (H): Pretty good defensively and difficult to beat.

    West Ham (H): Hat-trick material but you probably have him by now.

    City (A): Blank.

    Just food for thought... if Auba moves to CF, Arsenal sign a creative midfielder and move to 4 ATB that could be my decision made for me. Of course Salah is still Salah and has the ability to punish but as arguments go the one against him has merit and it's not like you're ignoring him forever anyways. Dropping him could be a massive benefit to the rest of your team early stages.

    1. Scotty Hutch
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Interesting, I was toying with the idea of not having Salah and this has tipped it for me.

      I may keep him in for GW1 then swap him for KDB in GW2

    2. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      You're considering worse case scenarios here.

      Leeds at home is still a home game against a promoted team for Mo Salah. We saw what happened last season. 12 point return against a Norwich team who played pretty well and people were tipping for a decent season.

      Chelsea's defense is pretty awful and needs time to gel. Can't see Liverpool not scoring.

      Arsenal at home is traditionally a great fixture for Liverpool attackers. Salah got 15 last year in the reverse fixture that took place at the same time, roughly.

      Villa away, okay this one might have 1-0 or 2-0 on it. But still not what you'd call a 'tough' fixture.

      Everton away. Alright you might have a point with this one but without crowds, I fancy Pool to win away.

      Sheffield United - likely one season wonders without a keeper as good. Salah can do damage.

      West Ham (h) - Hat-trick material as you said.

    3. Wild Rover
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Leeds are a pretty brilliant team
      Chelsea (A): Most likely a blank
      Sure, he destroyed them last time but Arteta's Arsenal are a different prospect
      Villa's improved defensive performance
      Everton (A): ... will be 0-0 again

      Sounds like you are trying to convince yourself. 😉

      1. Flair
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Haha probably lol

        Tried to be realistic but I should keep in mind that Liverpool are the current champions and Salah one of the best scorers around. Still not convinced but plenty of time to go. The Community Shield will be interesting

        1. ChrisWBA92
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Personally think Salah is perfect for GW1 then swap out in GW2 for Bruno or KDB

    4. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Leeds (H): Liverpool will beat all the newly promoted sides at Anfield handily. Massive difference in quality. Captain material

      Chelsea (A): Ungelled side with a crap defense and GK. Frank can't defend and it will play right into Pool's hands. Captain material.

      Arsenal (H): Despite their improved defensive stability, this is still Pool at home against a naive side with an unsettled defensive line. Arsenal barely touched the ball in the same fixture last year. Captain material.

      Villa (A): Come on, it's a team that barely escaped relegation against the runaway champions... Captain material

      Everton (A): Poor game for Salah

      Sheffield United (H): Sheffield away against to sides did very poorly and conceded 3+ goals on several occasions. They are not the same side they are at Brammal lane. Also no Henderson this season. Captain material

      West Ham (H): TC material....

      City (A): Poor game for Salah

    5. Wild Card this!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I was following same logic when decided not to double up Liverpool defenders...

    6. FFSbet.com
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Nah,set and forget for me.
      Hes 0.5 cheaper and even if he dont do anything he can score penalty.

  26. Miguel Sanchez
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Surely the GW1 fixtures will be further split up to different times to accommodate TV scheduling?

    1. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Has to.
      No games on Sunday looks stupid 😀

  27. The King
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Who is the best 4.5 defender that isn't a Burnley player or Vinagre? Cheers

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KWP or Lamptey

      Part of a long line of English RBs available to Southgate

      Walker
      Trippier
      TAA
      AWB
      James

    2. Zladan
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KWP/Saliba/Justin

    3. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      KWP, Justin

    4. Tinfoil Deathstar
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Kyle Walker-Peters a great shout at 4.5. Impressed for Saints after project restart and will be a banker for starting XI. Saints also have decent opening fixtures.

  28. vova
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thoughts on Greenwood? At 7.5 he could be a bargain if he nails down a spot but I haven't really been following Man Utd's transfer window, are they likely to bring in another winger? Any good alternatives for Greenwood in a similar price bracket?

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Think he is superb value at that price and a shoe in for me.

      Could start with Ziyech/Mount and then move to Greenwood

    2. Carlton P
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He’s been in my first draft and never been removed

      1. KujaliaFC
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not even for GW1?

        Benching him?

  29. JustPark
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    1) Werner+Son
    2) Ziyech+Kane

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      1

      1. JustPark
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Priority of those 4?

    2. Holmes
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      2

    3. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I have Son and Ziyech in my draft

      1. JustPark
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        For some reason after asking this, I have both as well plus Richarlison instead of the other two strikers.

    4. JoeJitzu +42
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      On 1 but seriously considering 2

  30. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Davies + shaw
    Vs
    Gomez + Taylor

    1. Old Man
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not Gomez - complete waste of a Pool spot.

      1. Eat my goal!
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I hear you but very cheap way to benefit from all those CS

        Taa everyone will have and salah, so whilst budgets are tight seems like a good option

        1. Old Man
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Personally I like to have a defender with some degree of attacking potential - certainly for 5.5. What about Tierney or Boly? In the first case you get a wing-back style defender and a couple of fixtures to have a look-see. In Wolves case they have good fixtures until week 8. Boly is a bonus magnet in low scoring matches and will score a few goals a season. If Aurier leaves then Spurs should be a bit tighter at the back but Davies does not seem to get forward much these days.

        2. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          How many cs do you see if first 8 weeks before likely WC window? 4 and above and it might pay. But then look at Doherty for 0.5 more and the ceiling is much higher.