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12 September 2020 1786 comments
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After weeks of debate, Che Adams (£6.0m) finally has the chance to prove himself up against colleague Danny Ings (£8.5m).

The former Birmingham City forward has been named in Southampton’s starting line-up for a trip to Crystal Palace having outscored Ings in the last three matches of 2019/20.

The Saints’ back-four, which has been targeted by plenty of Fantasy managers this summer, is mostly as expected, featuring Ryan Bertrand (£5.0m), Jan Bednarek (£4.5m), Jack Stephens (£5.0m) and Kyle Walker-Peters (£4.5m) in front of Alex McCarthy (£4.5m).

Will Smallbone (£4.5m) comes in for the injured Stuart Armstrong (£5.5m), offering another budget midfield route into the Southampton team alongside Oriol Romeu (£4.5m), who is paired with James Ward-Prowse (£6.0m) in the centre of the park.

A large portion of Fantasy Football Scout readers will be pleased to see Tyrick Mitchell (£4.0m) handed a start at left-back.

The youngster has commanded a hold over that position during pre-season although it did come with the caveat of Palace’s injury issues.

However, despite the return of James McCarthy (£4.5m) to central midfield, displacing Jairo Riedewald (£4.5m), Roy Hodgson has kept Mitchell in the starting line-up. Meanwhile, Riedewald has missed out on a place in the matchday squad altogether.

As expected, Wilfried Zaha (£7.0m) starts up-front as an out-of-position midfielder, and Fantasy managers may want to keep an eye on the fact that Eberechi Eze (£6.0m) is on the bench alongside Luka Milivojevic (£6.0m) and Michy Batshuayi (£6.0m).

Crystal Palace XI: Guaita; Mitchell, Dann, Kouyaté, J Ward; Schlupp, McCarthy, McArthur, Townsend; Zaha, Ayew.

Southampton XI: McCarthy; Bertrand, Bednarek, J Stephens, Walker-Peters; Smallbone, Ward-Prowse, Romeu, Redmond; Adams, Ings.

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  1. TAT
    • 8 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    At least I didn't go with the def double-up…

  2. I am 42
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    triple saints gg

  3. Pedram
    • 12 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    What's your targeted rank for GW1? i'd happy with being inside the 500k.

    1. Flair
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Top 1M I guess, don't really care for the first 5GW

    2. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      It's fairly meaningless tbh

    3. Society
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      GW1 target = 11 playing.
      GW2 target = avoiding Fernandes & De Bruyne price rises (GW1 Fernandes benched & traded KDB already ..... target hit !).
      GW3 target = ..... ok, we've avoided the biggest pitfalls, let's get on with the popular/productive/value transfers.

      (GW3 = trouble, coz I know zero about football.)

      1. Pep bites Kun
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        🙂 Nice disclaimer. Have an upvote

    4. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Not really bothered.

    5. I am 42
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      b4 GW1 starts: top 1k
      after 2 matches: top 500k

  4. SADIO SANÉ
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    has the Obafemi wagon started yet?

    1. Society
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Was always better than the BHA Stephens option.

  5. 1zverGGadeM
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Raise your hands up, if you started 4 players in this game like me did 😀
    McCarthy Bednarek Ings Mitchel

    1. Ser Davos
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Why Bed over KWP?

      1. 1zverGGadeM
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Bednarek more nailed maybe?

        1. 1zverGGadeM
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Ok, Bednarek out.. :/

    2. Young Lingard
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

  6. jason_ni
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Most sales so far.. son with 9k sold.

    Wtf is that about?!?

    He's not even played. Salah heavily sold as well.

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Will probably do it. Was planning Son -> Bruno all along.

      1. jason_ni
        • 10 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        I mean, wait and see what happens, son scores a hattie.. bruno gets injured in training.
        Just crazy moving so early, esp when he hasn't played!

        1. Botman and Robben
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          I have not made the move yet. But have 1.5ITB, so exact cash.

        2. Pep bites Kun
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          If you could erect a roof over this forum it could quite easily be termed a lunatic asylum 😉 Leave logic at the door

        3. Society
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Some teams have the set up to make planned transfers in anticipation of price rises given a good performance. That set up involves spreading wealth over the whole 15 to avoid a zero in one position, which there's higher chance of this season.
          Once you've made that choice, points per million become even more crucial & big hitters get sacrificed.
          It's why FPL is so enticing .... there's more than one option.

    2. ivantys
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Really hope son scores a brace next week while bruno blanks

    3. Ser Davos
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Son to Willian

      1. Ser Davos
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        to think 9,000 individuals have gone ahead with selling Son is beyond my comprehension

        1. JayKay1
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Don't forget there are a fair few FPL players who go for the TV league rather than the pts league...

    4. JELLYFISH
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Will be doing it, but madness to do it now without all the games having been played (unless he is about to drop)

    5. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Keep and watch the sellers cry. Absolute madness selling before a player has even played.
      Bloody casuals

      1. 1zverGGadeM
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        or early wildcarders..

        1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Even still, surely wait for them to play first

    6. 1zverGGadeM
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Its all Willian enthusiasts me think..

      1. Society
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Yep. Son's got Euro & Willian free kicks.

  7. ivantys
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Palace just doesn't lose after taking the lead

  8. tokara
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Is Ings looking sharp?

    1. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      No

  9. TheSteel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Southampton wagon already derailed?

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Channel 5 news helicopoter already over head and stray cats lapping up the spilled milk

  10. Niho992
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    That feeling when you are stucked with Mitrovic and Adams

    1. Ser Davos
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Torturous bracket until a sustainable option reveals itself

    2. Sir_Dunc
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Dominic Calvert Lewin and Wilson offer ways out. Others may yet emerge too.

    3. Society
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Blame it on the pundits ..... they talked you into it.

  11. Flair
    • 6 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    It's such a pleasure watching Palace defend, even as a triple SOU - soon to be double - owner.

  12. steven8991
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    only relieve I didn't go double mccarthy&kwp and decided double taa&robbo instead, hope it works well

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 10 months ago

      That one might just pay off

  13. ace3.1415
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Opinions on Zaha?

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      over-rated, trapped in a form of limbo at Palace

      1. Hughes Your Daddy
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Trapped on a £125,000 week contract he signed a couple of years ago. Free Zaha!

      2. Pep bites Kun
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Self-inflicted unfortunately. Talented player with a bad attitude

    2. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I like him a lot.
      Would never have him in my fantasy team though!

    3. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      One of the most over hyped players in fpl

    4. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Bar Rashford, probably the most overrated player in the prem for me

      Avoid in fpl

      1. Pep bites Kun
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        You could be right about FPL, but don't think you can lump Rashford in with Zaha - totally different mindsets - one on the way up, one in limbo

    5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Becomes an option once Bats get up & running

      Last time Bats landed, Palace had scored 15 goals in their last 29 league games

      He started he next 9 & they scored 17 - 5 goals for bats & 3 goals/5 assists for Zaha

      They’ll both be a good double act

  14. Garlana
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Nice to see my ings and Adams double up going well

    1. ace3.1415
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      How is it going well?

      1. Tempestic
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        ...

      2. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Both started

      3. billysupertramp
        • 13 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        means "well".

      4. Clueless24
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Is sarcasm not a thing on FFS?

        1. Pep bites Kun
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          It certainly is, they just disguise it well with vitriol 🙂

      5. Weasel Boy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Its called sarcasm

      6. Riverside Red
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Over your head

      7. Pep bites Kun
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Great comment! You have earned yourself a grav

    2. Ser Davos
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Looked promising, but the goal is a sucker punch for Soton (and us FPL managers) 🙂

    3. MagicMessi
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      You can't double up on them and expect things to go welp

      1. MagicMessi
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Well*

        1. Pep bites Kun
          • 9 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Could also have been *'You can double up on them and expect things to go welp'

      2. Garlana
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        I can't? Ings is a make way for martial. Just one week.

        1. MagicMessi
          • 14 Years
          5 years, 10 months ago

          Fair enough

    4. FOO FIGHTER
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Lol, I am in the same boat but 2nd half to come.

  15. The Red Devil
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    HT
    Looks like a typical Hodgson 1-0 win on its way

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Hodgson deserves more respect.

      1. The Red Devil
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Definitely one of the better managers in the league

    2. MagicMessi
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Fingers crossed

  16. Agger
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Even though we’re only a game and a half into this GW, I feel like giving up, 2 of my strikers got 1 point and my goalkeeper already lost his CS. I want to retire

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Patience! Dont knee jerk

    2. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      You’ll still get 40-50 points. Maybe next week you’ll get 60+. I’m sure you picked a balanced squad to give you decent coverage over the first few gws. Don’t panic. Enjoy the football.

    3. Pedram
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Calm down, it's a marathon not a sprint

    4. nerd_is_the_werd
      • 6 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      As long as they're not the expensive players you've still got a chance...

    5. Pep bites Kun
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      What MLs are you in? 😉

    6. Pep bites Kun
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Joking 🙂 hang in there. Enjoy the ride

  17. ivantys
    • 5 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Surprised the werner to martial transfer didn't happen

  18. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
    • 9 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    What’s happened to Southampton’s away form

    1. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      45 minutes into the new season.
      What on Earth?!

      1. KAPTAIN KANE SERVES THE PAI…
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        🙂

    2. Pacer.
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Palace are not really an easy team to score away against. They don't concede that much and didn't get thumped at home (4+) by anyone last year.

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      It’s more what the hell has happened to Crystal Palace

      Their home attack was diabolical last year - by far the worst in the league with only 15 goals scored in 19 games

      They’re already blowing last season’s home attacking record out of the water

  19. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    I reckon Zaha will be in decent form right until the transfer window closes.

    1. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      now that is a solid shout

    2. Von Lipwig
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Haha good one

    3. Moderately content penguin
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I'll take one of his standard oop seasons where he gets minimum 16 attacking returns tbh

    4. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 17 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Mmmm not a fan mate. Poor with baps too

    5. KwazyKing
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      he is in my team for first 4 GW's

    6. Pep bites Kun
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      That does seem to be his history 🙂

  20. Brosstan
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Ings is guarantee to drop in orice

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Guaranteed?

    2. diesel001
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      That's fine. Getting Martial for him.

    3. Check out my Umtiti's
      • 5 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Guaranteed o'rice

  21. Hughes Your Daddy
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Well done lads. COYP!

    1. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      What's the P stand for?

      1. ZimZalabim
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        players ?

      2. Hughes Your Daddy
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Preston North End.

      3. ZimZalabim
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        (P)eagles ?

    2. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Pants.

    3. ZimZalabim
      • 9 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Pundits ?

  22. Moderately content penguin
    • 7 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    United attack next week looking quite so inevitable atm? Is this a defence you definitely want to attack?

    Good options to bring them in long term but .....

    1. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      You don’t fancy United’s attack against a makeshift Palace back 4?
      On the evidence of 45 minutes of Southampton?
      Madness.

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Think it's going to be just Bruno atm. Not much space for pacy players to exploit, but perhaps long range shot, set-piece or pen. Enter Bruno.

      1. Moderately content penguin
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Makes sense

        Just prefer KdB as the long term mid - still a better team with more goals in them. Neither really have fixtures for double up imo

      2. Pep bites Kun
        • 9 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Decent observation

    3. Amey
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      If palace defend so deep, goals will come !
      Quality difference in Midfield will be the key. Southampton Midfield is almost useless in first half. No urgency at all

      1. Moderately content penguin
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Probably a couple but no cs for United

        Don’t like United fixtures much at all short mid term - not seeing they merit a FT or benched player

        Could be spectacularly wrong of course

    4. Hughes Your Daddy
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Would be surprised if our 3rd choice defence will hold Man Utd next week, think i will be loading up on their players.

      1. Moderately content penguin
        • 7 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Not hold them but I don’t see a thrashing and then you need to pick who returns - 4 options there

    5. Hughes Your Daddy
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Def getting Bruno in.

  23. steven8991
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    my experience with Willian and Zaha in previous season has always been a bad one, I remember got them several times in my team and only ended in failure

    1. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Agreed.

  24. Manani
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    went with the McCarthy KWP double up last minute!

    at least I got Taylor next week to fill in for KWP so not all is lost

  25. OPTA FPL
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Hogson is the best English manager isnt he?

    1. Agger
      • 10 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Woy

    2. Brosstan
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I think so. Doesn't get enough credit because he's unfairly lumped in with the likes of Bruce and Pardew

    3. Bubz
      • 12 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Chris Wilder

      1. Ser Davos
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        May, just may, be the only English manager that could progress the national team

      2. DantheManinaPan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Has to be

    4. Von Lipwig
      • 7 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Lampard!

    5. EL TANO
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      He’s definitely the best at being an English manager. Pure stodge

  26. Agger
    • 10 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Monday night is going to be torture, I don’t own a Chelsea player, and everyone around me does

    1. SADIO SANÉ
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      just remember they play Liverpool in GW2 and keep calm

    2. Boss Hogg
      • 16 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Football’s back.
      I like football.
      Enjoy the football.
      🙂

    3. MagicMessi
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      I even had Werner just because all the world have him ..

  27. Egg noodle
    • 16 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    What's Adams vs Ings looking like?

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Like Adams won't be a nailed starter pretty soon

      KWP- positioned high like an Aurier type, on the ball not been good and getting roasted by Zaha off it

      1. Manani
        • 14 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        why is that for adams?

        surely won't be dropped after 1 game?

      2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 17 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        People who watch football will know that KWP is a liability. His concentration and positioning is awful. Got caught out a lot at spurs .

    2. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Ings looking slightly more involved but neither are getting any decent service.

      Not being allowed to.

      1. tokara
        • 11 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        I saw soton has 70% possession

    3. Klaren
      • 8 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      They are equally terrible. Mainly not their fault though. Southampton passing and movement is really sluggish.

      1. Klaren
        • 8 Years
        5 years, 10 months ago

        Well movement part is their fault but passing not so much, so “partly” not their fauly would be more accurate.

  28. Flynny
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone going to bring in kdb gw2 and not Bruno?

    1. Ser Davos
      • 11 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Considered it for a while, even Sterling

    2. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Not unless Wolves look awful this GW.

      I doubt it though.

    3. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      5 years, 10 months ago

      Probably not as City play away to Wolves.

  29. Ser Davos
    • 11 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Willian and Zaha in that classic bracket of long-time-potential-never-had-that-breakout-season

  30. Weasel Boy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    5 years, 10 months ago

    Anyone else change the channel until the start of 2nd half during footie or is it just me?