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Should we sell or hold Timo Werner ahead of FPL Gameweek 4 and who are the best replacements?

30 September 2020 728 comments
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It is fair to say that Timo Werner (£9.4m) has not started life in the Premier League as Fantasy managers had hoped he would.

Chelsea have scored six in their first three matches but their new forward has managed just one assist in that run.

So the question is: Is it time we looked to replace Werner? And if so who for? In this article I want to talk about the possible options.

As it uses data from the Fantasy Football Scout Premium Members Area, only those with a valid subscription can access it in full.

The case for holding

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Lessons Learned from FPL Gameweek 3

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  1. Ziko7
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    On WC
    A : Trent + Mahrez/8.5,
    B : 4.5 DEF + Mahrez/Rashford/Bruno
    Already have Robertson.

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    1. mr. inconspicuous
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      A, I’m looking to double up on TAA and Robertson

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      1. Ziko7
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        Me too, better than 7.0 midfielders definitely. But I also think Bruno will get lots of penalties.

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    2. The Son-dance Kid
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      A

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    3. fish&chips
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      A

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    4. Camzy
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      What sort of choice is this?

      TAA or 4.5m def?

      Of course you take TAA....

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      1. Ziko7
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        I can have Bruno instead of a 8.5 mid.

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        1. Camzy
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 3 days ago

          Bruno over TAA no thanks.

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  2. Malinwa
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Need some WC help here...

    A)
    Martinez
    Justin - TAA - James - Saïs
    KDB - Salah(c) - Havertz
    Ings - Jimenez - Bamford

    Steer - Mitchell - Anguissa - Klich
    0.1 itb

    B)
    Martinez
    Justin - TAA - James - Saïs
    KDB - Salah(c) - Barnes
    Richarlison - Jimenez - Ings

    Steer - Mitchell - Anguissa - Mendy
    0.4 itb

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    1. fish&chips
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      B edges it until Chelsea show some more form

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  3. Lignja
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    What is best mid 4.5-4.9m mid bench?

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  4. fish&chips
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Triple city, triple Chelsea, triple wolves. Tell me I'm finally going to have a good week this week.

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    1. diabydoesgallas
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      3 out of form teams? Hit that wildcard button 😀

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      1. fish&chips
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        I did last week. Hahaha

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    2. Zimo
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Don't know about chelsea but I'm sure wolves and city will bounce back

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      1. fish&chips
        • 16 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        Fingers crossed

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    3. Sad Pablo Arsecobar
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Don't listen to fish and chips, you should take him with a pinch of salt.... wheyyyyy

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    4. All about the galacticos
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      you have the fixtures, so you should have a better than average week

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  5. tc93
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Quick 1 or 2 lads:
    1) VVD + Hames
    2) Robbo + Zaha

    On WC-- already have DCL.

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    1. diabydoesgallas
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      2 all day

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    2. Camzy
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      2.

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    3. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      2

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    4. IRBOX ⚽
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      2

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    5. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      2

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  6. Zimo
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Bruno and Lamptey
    Or
    Trent and Greenwood
    Have Robbo as well.

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    1. diabydoesgallas
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      I’d go B. But it’s tough

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      1. Zimo
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        Thanks yeah. It's tough for me too. I don't want to miss out on all those bruno penalties but don't want to miss out on trent either.

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    2. Tonyawesome69
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Bruno

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    3. ivantys
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      B but don't like Greenwood, rather take another 7.0 mf.

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    4. All about the galacticos
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      A
      Robertson is enough coverage.

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  7. Wheato182
    • 13 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Any changes needed? would be for a hit

    Martinez
    Digne - Saiss - Justin
    Sterling - JRod - Salah - Podence
    Jimi - Richarlison - Wilson

    Steer - Fraser - Mitchell - Ayling
    Bank - 1.9

    Head says stick but heart says i need to make a change.

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    1. Tarby
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      I wouldn't take a hit for it now but with Digne off set pieces he's probably poor value now. With all your money in the bank I'd get him out for Robbo which you might be able to afford or if 0.1 short then van Dijk.

      Or go a bit cheaper and get a second 4.5m keeper in for Steer as well. I like have 2 cheap keepers to rotate (I have Ryan and McCarthy) but could be especially worthwhile this season in case a keeper tests positive for COVID and misses 2/ 3 games!

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      1. joker14
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        Digne is still on indirect free-kicks from the flanks.
        Hames is on corners.
        They both share the duty of direct free-kicks.
        Digne's chances of assists/goals from set-pieces may be reduced by half but Everton are a better attacking now so I expect more goals from Everton and Digne to contribute to them.

        However, comparing Robbo and Digne, definitely Robbo all day. I have both though 🙂

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        1. Tarby
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          6 years, 3 days ago

          Yeah I agree he will still get a decent share of assists, but the odd 3 points here and there doesn't justify the cost for me. If we was on all set-pieces he would be very appealing though but for me this knocks him down too much. He could well prove me wrong though, he could be a 4/ 5 goal asset with 6/ 7 assists as well! I already have Rodriguez and DCL so should be involved in most Everton goals, I think they're better value options from Everton (I got them at 7 and 7.5 though and they value diminishes as their prices continue to rise!)
          I think van Dijk is a good option, he'll be a top scoring (4/ 5 goals) defender and probably be top for cleansheets as well.

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  8. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Barnes or Maddison?

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    1. dee_top
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Barnes

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      1. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        Can you tell me why? Mads still not fully fit? Barnes dangerous in attack?

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        1. dee_top
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 3 days ago

          Barnes looks sharp

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        2. ivantys
          • 6 Years
          6 years, 3 days ago

          Barnes higher chance to score goal, Maddison higher chance to assist goal.

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    2. IRBOX ⚽
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Barnes

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    3. JIMMY TUGGINS
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      The first looks good, shame he can't hit a Barnes door, takes a lot of shots.

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    4. All about the galacticos
      • 11 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      at the same price maddison for his assist potential, free kicks and corners

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  9. fpork
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    I am currently on this team:
    McCarthy (Steer)
    James, Alexander-Arnold, Robertson, Taylor, Walker-Peters
    Salah, Sterling, Son (Saint-Maximin) (Reed)
    Adams, Werner (Davis)

    Considering:
    1) Son->Mahrez
    2) Son->Rashford
    3) Werner->Jimenez
    4) Saint-Maximin->?

    Got 1 FT and 0,5 itb. Doing two of the above would be on a hit.

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    1. IRBOX ⚽
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      1

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  10. IRBOX ⚽
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Any changes needed? On a -4

    McCarthy
    TAA Saiss Justin
    Salah KDB Rodriguez Foden
    Jimenez DCL Ings

    Nyland Vinagre Mitchell Bissouma

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    1. Zimo
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      I like it. We have basically the same team. I got Robbo Bruno Maupay instead of TAA Rodriguez Ings.

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      1. IRBOX ⚽
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        Mine is better in that case 😆

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        1. Zimo
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 3 days ago

          Haha maybe. Maybe not. We shall see :p I'd say its a close one. I think maupay will be a bargain this year

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        2. Zimo
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 3 days ago

          I do want Ings a lot though. Might switch Jimenez to him after newcastle match

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    2. Zimo
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Who will u captain? I'm on kdb

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      1. IRBOX ⚽
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        Agree

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        1. Zimo
          • 8 Years
          6 years, 3 days ago

          🙂

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    3. JIMMY TUGGINS
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      What you thinking of Rodriguez? Not sure about how many points he'll get going forward but I don't wanna lose him because he's too handsome and my new favourite player to watch.

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      1. Zimo
        • 8 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        If only he was on penalties. He'd be first in my team

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  11. Miniboss
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    With already 20 penalties awarded, what do you think of following front 7?

    Salah KdB Zaha Klich
    Richarlison Ings Jimenez

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    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Penplate

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      1. FPL_BUCCANEER
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 7 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        Excellent work.

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  12. dee_top
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Soucek to Mahrez for a hit?

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    1. Dazzler83
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Would probably do that move if it wasn't for a hit, but I'm not taking anymore hits rest of season after my ASM to Podence fail

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    2. vanishing spray
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Not really a comparison you can make in a vacuum, you could do a lot of different moves with that kind of money in the bank

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    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Surely you said Mahrez to Soucek for a hit?

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    4. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      No

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  13. WVA
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Boom! WC complete?

    Martinez
    Robbo Justin KWP
    Salah KDB(vc) Zaha Pereira
    Vardy(c) Jiminez DCL
    Steer Lamptey Stephens Dunne

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    1. Hybrid.power
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Nice

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    2. dee_top
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      No

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  14. FPL Daniel
    • 17 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Sell

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  15. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Guys can you help me out

    Ryan, Button
    TAA, Justin, Dallas, Dunne, Ferguson
    Salah, Sterling, Son, JRod, Zaha
    Jimenez, Mitrović, Wickham

    Would you do Son and Wickham to Barnes and DCL for -8? If not, what should I do?

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  16. IRBOX ⚽
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Still think the best time to WC is around GW10. Get rid of Wolves and Everton, load up on City, Pool and United

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    1. Camzy
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      It is a nice swing. But you can also slowly move toward that. I will already have triple Pool and double City by then.

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      1. IRBOX ⚽
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        Aguero may be a huge differential at that point

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        1. IRBOX ⚽
          • 9 Years
          6 years, 3 days ago

          And will be hard to not have Bruno

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    2. Zimo
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      But why get rid of everton. Theyve been looking so good. I'm gonna keep DCL till the end

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    3. Flair
      • 6 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      It's the best WC time for sure, I'm disappointed I didn't set my team up better so I didn't need to WC early. Not too significant though, just need to plan transfers well. Jimenez -> Aguero, Semedo -> TAA are two moves I should make.

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  17. villian-ty
    • 16 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Barkey gone on loan to villa

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  18. cigan
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Barnes + Jimenez + Lewis
    or
    Foden + DCL + Wilson
    or
    Mahrez + Wilson + Lewis + 4 points?

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  19. Paulybaby123
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Is James (Chelsea) first choice now that Chilwell is back?

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  20. AC Yew
    • 7 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Is Son definitely out? Was thinking of holding for a week or so but with my wonderful bench scoring 0 points last week i dont think this is the smartest move.

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    1. dee_top
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Jose Mourinho on Son Heung-min: "I expect to have him back after the international period."

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    2. IRBOX ⚽
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Sell

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  21. Nightf0x
    • 11 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Bench 1
    Taylor justin

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    1. IRBOX ⚽
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Taylor

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  22. JUNITED
    • 14 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Need to sell Son. I'm in dilemma.

    A) Traore?
    B) James Rodriguez
    C) Zaha
    D) Rashford
    E) Mahrez

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    1. Lukakus Unit
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      E

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    2. Camzy
      • 16 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      You don't need to sell Son if you have a decent bench.

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      1. JUNITED
        • 14 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        He's 9.0!! If he's only 6.0 that's nothing.

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        1. Camzy
          • 16 Years
          6 years, 3 days ago

          I'd still hold. It's two transfers to get him out and get him back.

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          1. FPL Daniel
            • 17 Years
            6 years, 3 days ago

            Can we trust Jose about this fitness? He has admitted previously that manager lie at press conferences, he included.

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          2. JUNITED
            • 14 Years
            6 years, 3 days ago

            That's plenty of time.

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      2. Konstaapeli
        • 10 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        I'm selling. Will buy back cheaper when he's fit.

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  23. rnrd
    • 12 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Barkley to Villa.
    Interesting..

    Watkins has some very good stats. Grealish is class. There might be some great value at villa this year

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  24. dee_top
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Starting squad for GW4:
    McCarthy
    Doherty TAA Justin
    Salah (c) Barnes Rodriguez Soucek
    Vardy DCL Ings (vc)
    Subs: Nyland Reed Mirchell Saliba
    3.6m INB, 0 FT

    Best move:
    A) Soucek to Mahrez for -4?
    B) Doherty to (??) for -4?
    C) Do nothing

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  25. Big_Andy_GAWA
    • 15 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Barkley be a decent buy when Villa's fixtures improve...?

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    1. Lukakus Unit
      • 7 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Barkley will be Barkley.

      One to two decent games followed by a long string of disappointment.

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  26. MoSalalalalalalalalah
    • 8 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Pereira, Greenwood or Grealish in the draft?

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    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Grealish - will play practically every minute

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    2. Zimo
      • 8 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      It would be greenwood if u knew united won't sign any new winger. But risky if they do. So Grealish first

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  27. davewg59
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Is TAA/Robbo double up the way to go?

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    1. WVA
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Too much

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  28. Steve The Spud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Is Zaha overlooked ? Most points and Best xg by a distance for mids under 8m, on pens and palace playing well

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    1. TomSaints
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Not a bad choice. But a historic troll!

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    2. FPL Daniel
      • 17 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      will he stay at CPL after the transfer deadline?

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      1. Dr. Ante Pavlovic
        • 9 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        Yes

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    3. IRBOX ⚽
      • 9 Years
      6 years, 3 days ago

      Don’t think it will keep up and expect him to regress to his norm

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      1. joker14
        • 6 Years
        6 years, 3 days ago

        He's playing as a striker this season though.

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  29. Flair
    • 6 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Villa doing great business on paper, their ambitious and rich owners are working hard to make it happen. That Sheffield United goal-line technology incident could have changed the future of the club, now they're able to make significant improvements and have signed Grealish to a new deal.

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  30. No Salah
    • 9 Years
    6 years, 3 days ago

    Team is a mess specially without any city:

    McCarthy
    TAA Robbo Justin
    Bruno Son* Podence* Hames
    Werner* DCL Jimmy

    4.0 Davies Bissouma Mitchell

    Injuries and potential worries *

    1FT, 1.3 ITB

    Son + Werner > KDB + Maupay for -4?

    Any Better suggestions please?

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