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9 August 2021 1142 comments
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Ivan Toney (£6.5m) is now the highest-owned forward in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), sitting in 30% of pre-Gameweek 1 squads at the time of writing.

But is the hype surrounding the 31-goal striker justified?

Having previously taken a more general, statistical overview of Brentford’s midfielders and forwards in our Promoted series, we wanted a fan’s perspective on the former Newcastle United and Peterborough United hitman.

We asked Fantasy Football Scout user and Brentford fan Jamie (aka Belisha Beacon) a few questions on what FPL managers can expect in 2021/22.

What is Toney’s playing style – could you liken him to any other forward in terms of physicality/pace/hold-up play etc?

“His speciality is finding the tiniest bit of space away from his marker and finishing first time (something that should hopefully bode well in the top flight, with chances likely to be at more of a premium), as well as being a taker of a string of very cool penalties.

“He’s a real team leader and surely a future captain. He is also invaluable when it comes to helping out in defence at set pieces; he certainly prevented a few goals each season for us and for Peterborough, which is not something you can say for every number 9! 

“A striker talisman with the physical presence to win challenges at both ends… the top-knot Drogba?!”

Does he have any weaknesses to his game?

“There’s not much to report here on the evidence of last season. He picks up a few yellows for dissent; he gets fouled a lot but needs to control his temper in tough situations.

“He’s also a player who can seem to drift off the radar for spells in games but he has the patience to keep working for the team.”

Having seen the likes of Bamford, Mitrovic, Pukki etc in the last few years, where does he stand in the high-scoring pantheon of recent Championship strikers? Is 31 goals a fair reflection?

Bamford, Bale, Aguero and Forster on the bench for Gameweek 38 matches

“I’m not an expert on the strengths of all the other players you’ve mentioned but the goal record speaks for itself.

“We lost a lot of creativity last season with the departures of Ollie Watkins and Said Benrahma, so it said a lot for him to step into our team and break the goalscoring marks set by Neal Maupay and Watkins in the two prior years.

“I suppose you have to separate the penalties (11 out of 31) without ignoring them, as I doubt we can win that many in the Premier League.”

Do you have any concerns that Brentford won’t create enough chances for him in the top flight?

“That is the number one question for the club this summer, of course. We’ll have to get used to having less of the ball than we had in many games in the Championship.

“I may regret this prediction but I think some Premier League defences sit back and afford a little more space to opponents to play a pass than some of the more bruising Championship sides, who we often struggled against in the past. And we acquitted ourselves well in several cup matches against Premier League teams last season (beating Fulham, Southampton and Newcastle to nil and West Bromwich Albion on penalties, scoring eight goals in the process), so I’m hopeful that we’ll make a decent number of chances in the majority of games. There’ll be some hard days, though, for sure!”

It’s a bit of an impossible question but what do you think is a realistic target for him, goals and assists wise, in 2021/22?

“If we’re going to not only survive but try to excel amongst the bottom half teams this season, which I think we will, we’ll be aiming for 40-50 goals as a team.

“I think Toney will want to surpass what our past players Andre Gray, Maupay and even Watkins managed in their first seasons in the Premier League and aim to score about 15, including a few penalties, and maybe supply eight assists. It might sound optimistic but given his 50%+ goal involvement last year, it’s not too outrageous.”

Will you be starting with him in Gameweek 1 in FPL?

“Yes. £6.5m is not cheap for a promoted team striker, but I am confident he’ll look like a bargain when in form and it may only take one goal against Arsenal for people to be clamouring to sign him for the following weeks.”

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  1. MARVELLUS
    • 17 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    I'm looking for a Greek LB to slot into my squad, any suggestions?

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 11 months ago

      James Milionakos

    2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      If minutes are unimportant I have a great recommendation.

    3. el polako
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Aristoteles or Sophokles.

    4. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Jose Holebas, Watford defender

    5. sozopol
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Some good ones in this youtube highlights video

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QXOKsJViHtY

  2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    How much for Lukaku at Chelsea? 10.5m? Will you get him?

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      11.5

    2. Andy1
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      People seem to think he'll be 11 or 11.5
      Proven quality in the premier League before, so think 10.5 is you being hopeful!

    3. Neves say Neves
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      At least 11, probably 11.5. No idea if he’ll start gw1 though

    4. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Can't see below 11m and yes from around GW7 he'll be in my team

    5. Stamford B
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      There is one major factor that everyone is over looking but is very important for this price range.

      1. Stamford B
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        And he should be 10.5 or it’s lollable

    6. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      11.5 & Starting with Son over him and hoping he at least comes close to matching his score

    7. Beatle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      He will be 11.5

  3. Neves say Neves
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone else Alexander-ArNO?

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Growing in popularity.

    2. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Yeah. I’m on Manè, Salah and Tsimi

      1. Tcheco
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        this

      2. Neves say Neves
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Don’t tempt me...

    3. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 11 months ago

      He's just so damn creative

      1. Neves say Neves
        • 8 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        I know but I’m really struggling to get Son with him in. I feel like he’s essential for gws 3 and 4

    4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Loads of people were for his club-world-cup blank gameweek season before last

      That went really well for them

  4. @persecuted_by_mods
    4 years, 11 months ago

    In that scenario where the wider community and some really good managers pick a player (Toney) that I myself am unconvinced on, obviously make your own decisions but it's always worth considering when you might just be totally wrong

    Was wrong on Gundo last season but got him pretty early because of the community, was also wrong on James Rodriguez but again got him relatively early because of the community and got many points off both

    Should I take heed what the community thinks of Toney, the massive 11 penalties is the main thing putting me off and what happens if he blanks in the first game, prices are so volatile early

    Think I'm sticking to my guns and going Toney-less

    1. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      I'm gonna go for him because he's genuinely a good striker. 31 goals is a lot. Even with 11 pens, that's 20 goals in the championship. I think you're overthinking it a bit with the team value thing. I'm not saying to pick him up because everyone else is, more that the stats back him to deliver an above average goal return.

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Good luck, I will let out a little cheer if he bags Vs arsenal. I think a lot of my feelings are because I simply don't know much about him having not watched the championship or him. Always easy to overthink and set yourself up with a gut feeling based on nothing! This one is actually linked to my other gut feeling that this year we'll have 3 terrible promoted teams that get spanked and go straight back down, again based on not much evidence

    2. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      im going Toney-less, just dont see it, especially with early season uncertainties. Ings and Antonio locked for me as front 2

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah think ultimately I prefer Wilson Antonio and Ings as my front 3

    3. Stamford B
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      I’ve seen him play which is why I won’t pick him.

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Interesting, I watched his goals on YouTube and came away thinking looks a good finisher which is a plus, but the chances he was getting are obviously going to get cut down

    4. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      With you on this.

    5. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Better to jump on a bandwagon than jump off a dud

      It’s a wait n see for me

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Exactly, which is how I did well on Gundo and Rodriguez!

    6. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      I know I keep saying it but I really want to start with Rodrigo ahead of him but not sure I’m brave enough to. Also want to start with Benrahma ahead of Harrison which I’m also not sure I’m brave enough to do. Think I’ll do one of the two though, just not sure which.

  5. Life_Ban
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Wow just spent £45 on cinema tickets for 5 ppl (2D) for Paw Patrol Movie...

    Call me an old timer but can't believe tickets are so expensive nowadays!

    Feel free to join ML if you want some good old fashioned free fun (i.e. getting your butt kicked by me):

    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/leagues/auto-join/1nbmz6

    1. Thomas Magnum
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Should’ve watched The Boss Baby 2: Family Business

      1. Thomas Magnum
        • 10 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        But you’re right it’s ridiculous, I’m sure it’s near impossible to take your kids to enjoy the things you took for granted growing up

        1. Life_Ban
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          I have 3 kids and whenever I buy a toy nowadays, all 3 want their own!

          Good job I rarely have a social life etc so can at least buy what they need...but cinema prices are extortionate!

    2. Ginkapo FPL
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Loaf of bread doesnt cost 5p anymore either

      1. Life_Ban
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Ha tbf I am in my prime

        Mid-thirties

        Just had a family quite young so not really an old timer :p

  6. McGowan
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    A) Jimenez and Barnes
    B) Ings and Raphinha

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
      4 years, 11 months ago

      B

    2. Neves say Neves
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      B as a wolves fan

    3. Beatle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      B

  7. Paqueta Rice
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    FFS team. Could you not write an article about this game and Tsimikas. Thanks

    1. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Do absolutely not.

  8. methos
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone considering Trossard? Nice fixtures to start. Could be a nice punt?

  9. Flynny
    • 11 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    So double Liverpool defence really is a thing then....

    Taa tsimikas and salah best 3 options?

    Or jota needed? Hard to ignore a 4m lpool defender!

  10. Hy liverpool
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Bobby on fireee

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Minamino assist

  11. tommo-uk-
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    A) Bruno & Raphina

    B) Son & Mount

    1. n-doggg
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      A

  12. Andy1
    • 16 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Any suggestions

    Sanchez foster
    Taa Shaw white ayling amartey
    Salah fernandes Barnes X x
    Ings Antonio x

    Which is the best option

    A. Jota, raphinha, obafemi
    B. Gilmour, raphinha, Toney (or other upto 7.5 striker
    C. Gilmour, benrahma, bamford

  13. pundit of punts
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Good to go?

    Sanchez - Foster
    TAA - Cash - White - Amartey - Omabamidele
    Salah - Bruno - Jota - Greenwood - Barnes
    Ings - Antonio - Obafemi

    Plan is -

    GW 2 - Jota or Greenwood > Gundogan
    GW 3 - Save FT
    GW 4 - Ings + Cash > Jimenez + Semedo

    Not thinking beyond that.

    Thoughts? 🙂

    1. Andy1
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      What happens if one of your 4m defenders stops being a regular?
      Obafemi potentially leaving might cause rotation issues too

      1. pundit of punts
        • 13 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Ings > Jimenez will fetch me the 0.5m to upgrade a 4m def to a 4.5m one.

        Don’t really care about the 4.5m forward as the four available in the game are all non starters

  14. Scholes Out For Summer
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    What's happened in the Liverpool friendly? Just got on

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Bobby 2G
      Minamino GA
      Tsimkas A

      1. Scholes Out For Summer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        just caught the Bobby goal, sick touch.

        Good performances so far?

        1. Hy liverpool
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          Yep. Osasuna are awful tbh.
          But minamino, tsmikas bobby and gomez/konate compo are playing well.

          Hope thiago and hendo play 2nd half with no injuries.

      2. Paqueta Rice
        • 5 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        *Milner

    2. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Firmino just put his name forward to start GW1 with two goals. Some Greek left-back got an assist.

      1. Scholes Out For Summer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Holebas train departing?

  15. GENERATION X
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Bye bye Diogo

    1. Botman and Robben
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Why?

      1. Botman and Robben
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Is he not playing?

        1. Scholes Out For Summer
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          he played yesterday

    2. It’s gonna Ben Mee
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Salah, Robbo and/or TAA as well?

  16. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Jota doubts sky-high for many now.

  17. gwoc
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    NO-TAA-Team - RMT

    Bachmann - Foster

    Shaw, Amartey, Tsmiiskas, White, Veltman

    Son, Bruno, Salah, Barnes, Pepe/Jota

    Antonio Ings 4.5

    Wildcarding pretty early.

  18. Ze_Austin
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Firmino brace

  19. Paqueta Rice
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Firmino goal, Minamino assist

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Was a beauty. I’d be a worried Jota owner

  20. Tango74
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    People need to be careful of having

    TAA, Salah and Tsimikas as if you another Liverpool mid or fwd you need 2 transfers

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      No kidding.

  21. Amartey Partey
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Goodbye Jota

  22. Je suis le chat
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Beware of Greek left backs bearing assists in friendlies.

  23. Rainer
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Tsmikas over or under 15% ownership come deadline?

    1. Scholes Out For Summer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      over 50% at this rate

    2. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Under. Remember to post Milner LB everywhere

    3. Make United Great Again
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      7%

    4. Qaiss
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Depends whether LetsTalkFPL and FPL Blackbox will have him.

  24. Wolfman180
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Be a ballsy punt to go Firmino from the start but imagine it paying off

    1. Paqueta Rice
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      I will never own Firmino again

      1. Wolfman180
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        I sense you've been burnt before!

        1. Paqueta Rice
          • 5 Years
          4 years, 11 months ago

          A few season ago. Normall doesn’t do much and hits a little purple patch where he scores a few braces and then nothing again. So hard to predict his hauls.

          1. Wolfman180
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Sounds like Aubameyang, who I'll never own again

          2. Rasping Drive
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            4 years, 11 months ago

            Hmm. He’s giving you a massive hint tonight.

    2. Rainer
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Would never have Firmino as one of my Liverpool 3 but he's killing Jota who could be...

  25. Slitherene
    • 8 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Can this work out?

    Sanchez | Fodder
    Digne Shaw Targett
    Salah Bruno Son Jota Fraser
    Antonio Toney
    ¦ White Ayling Obafemi

    0 ITB

    1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      Nah, lacking Tsimikas

  26. danlynch13
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Does vetlman still play when lamptey comes back?

  27. KGFC
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Not much love for Bamford? Can see Leeds vs United being a high scoring affair much like their last year's opener against Pool.

    1. sozopol
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 11 months ago

      I think people are concerned about early fixtures, but def could be a nice pick (and maybe differential) at that price point. I'm considering

      1. KGFC
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 11 months ago

        Yeah, only 0.5 more but nailed and on pens.

        Actually prefer him to both Antonio or Wilson

  28. Stamford B
    • 5 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Does Tsimikas look as good as Hudson Odoi?

  29. I Member
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    PL Best XI:

    Alisson
    TAA, Dias, van Dijk, Tsimikas
    Fernandes, Kante, De Bruyne
    Salah, Kane, Son

  30. King Kohli
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 11 months ago

    Rate from highest to lowest in terms of points in the first 3 gws

    Ings
    Barnes
    TAA
    Greenwood
    Antonio
    Benrahma