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We round up the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) talking points from Monday’s pre-season match at Anfield in our latest Scout Notes article.

You can read about the goals, assists, injury news and FPL takeaways from the weekend’s games below:

Don’t forget to check out our comprehensive pre-season page for more information on the action taking place ahead of Gameweek 1.

LIVERPOOL 3-1 OSASUNA

  • Goals: own-goal, Roberto Firmino x2 (£9.0m)
  • Assists: Fabinho (£5.5m), Kostas Tsimikas (£4.0m), Takumi Minamino (£5.5m)

Liverpool completed their pre-season schedule with a routine 3-1 win over La Liga outfit Osasuna at Anfield on Monday night.

24 hours on from the 1-1 draw with Athletic Bilbao, Jürgen Klopp fielded a selection of first-teamers in need of minutes and fringe players.

Takumi Minamino (£5.5m) was lively throughout and netted the opener before Roberto Firmino (£9.0m) converted an excellent low cross from Kostas Tsimikas (£4.0m) and added a second just before half-time.

As one of the later arrivals to the squad, having reached the final of the Copa América with Brazil, Firmino got 60 minutes in the tank and will have done his prospects no harm at all with an excellent showing – something that’s not ideal for Diogo Jota (£7.5m) and his first-team prospects.

The second half was a rather more subdued affair, with Klopp introducing a raft of substitutions.

Ibrahima Konaté (£5.5m) caught the eye with his distribution from the back on his first Anfield appearance, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain (£6.0m) looked sharp in midfield, while Tsimikas impressed with an adventurous display from left-back and was also handed some set-pieces. 

Robertson and Watkins injury latest as Son starts up front again in Kane absence 2

Prior to kick-off, Andrew Robertson (£7.0m) took to social media to confirm a period on the sidelines with ankle ligament damage, which was later discussed by Jürgen Klopp, with his manager’s comments suggesting that he could be out until after the international break:

“It could have been much worse. It will not be too long. I’m not sure if it will be before the international break or after it but, as I say, I think we got lucky.”

Given Tsimikas’ solid pre-season, he could well be a starter against Norwich City in Gameweek 1, then.

On the performance, Klopp said:

“The first half was absolutely exceptional in many different departments. There were a lot of long ball and I liked our formation around that and how we passed the ball forward with Bobby in between the lines.

From a speed perspective, we were exceptional today and Ox was on fire. Fab controlled the counter-pressing situations and how it should be. The last line were good, we defended well and the goals we scored were outstanding. The second half was harder but there’s nothing really to moan about.

With all the changes, I didn’t feel we really disrupted the rhythm so it was good. Ben [Woodburn] has shown up in a top, top way. In pre-season, he’s played in four or five different positions.

Kostas has also shown up in pre-season as well and on top of that, he’s needed as well.”

On this evidence, Liverpool look all set for their Premier League opener against Norwich City on Saturday.

Liverpool XI: Kelleher, N Williams (Bradley 80), Konate (Davies 80), Gomez (R Williams 60), Tsimikas (Beck 71), Oxlade-Chamberlain, Fabinho (Thiago 60), Jones (Woodburn 30), Gordon (Origi 46), Minamino (Henderson 71), Firmino (Clarkson 60)

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  1. CrouchDown
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    How is this draft looking fellas?

    Bachmann (Foster)

    TAA Shaw Coufal (Holgate) (Lowton)

    Salah Bruno Mahrez Raph Benrahma

    Antonio Toney (Davis)

    1. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Not convinced with Holgate and Lowton.

      Veltman and Ayling rotate well and a much better choice. Or put in Tsim and carry 0.5 over

    2. FourLokoLeipzig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Looking good. I’ve got White as my 4.5 at present but tempted by Lowton too

  2. Weeb Kakashi
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Pick one

    A Son Barnes
    B Ings Mahrez/Grealish

    B has great opening fixtures but could be transfers waiting to happen.

    1. I Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I'm on B.

    2. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A

    3. Hansel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      This is what I hope is my last decision! Really torn! What I do like about B being ”transfers waiting” to happen though is that they are players I can easily chop for funds/moving on to bandwagons whereas Son will be harder to drop I think!

      1. Hansel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Also, B gives you a playing 4.5 mid rather than a benched striker

  3. HEY JUDE
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Mahrez or Jota?

    1. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Jota

    2. billnats
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Well, clearly Mahrez

    3. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Mahrez

    4. 3 A
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      9.0

    5. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Buy some tissues for the tears to come.

    6. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Mahrez

    7. RomeluStormzy
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Both...

  4. Life_Ban
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    >

    Currently 49 members in ML, please join us as the Final 50:

    https://fantasy.premierleague.com/leagues/auto-join/1nbmz6

    1. Stupendous
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Done!

    2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Sure why not, joined!

    3. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Sounds dodgy

  5. Stupendous
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    All set?

    Bachmann
    Kostas Taa Shaw
    Salah Bruno(c) Barnes Mahrez ESR
    Ings Antonio

    4.0m Amartey White Obafemi

    1. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Bold captain going against the grain there

      1. Baines on Toast...
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Pretty mad that isn't it? Last year's top scoring player in a fixture he got what, 17 points in? And Salah's away from home as well. It's a 50-50 call.

  6. leo_messi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Any playing 5.0 striker anywhere?

    1. 3 A
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Loves ur name.

    2. How I met your Mata
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Cucho I think

  7. Gunners in Haaland
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Mount or Havertz?

    1. CheesyZoot
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Kai

    2. El Presidente
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Zi

  8. SammyD
    • 12 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Is Varane worth looking at?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Prefer Rachael Riley

      1. SammyD
        • 12 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        No chance, she’s a Tory

        1. The Knights Template
          • 12 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          You're doing it wrong!

      2. SpaceCadet
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Prefer Riley Ried

    2. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Not yet

  9. cheeky moses
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    A) Son, Benrahma, Tsimikas
    B) Greenwood, Jota, Dunk

    1. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A

  10. Weeb Kakashi
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Anyone else not convinced by Ings?
    Completely new attack with EL Ghazi starting (takes pens). Fixtures in 2 and 3 are great though.

    1. CheesyZoot
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I think he's worth the punt

    2. Leehane
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Great opening fixtures.

      Also, an easy downgrade or sideways move to most other forward options. (Compared to Toney, especially)

    3. Amartey Partey
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Yeah I’m not convinced either, but there is also the chance he scores very high in those first 3 games. My alternative is Wilson.

    4. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Ings for the first 3 weeks for me then he will be replaced in gw4 by Auba who has Norwich at home and Arsenal's fixtures are kind after that.

      Not a great choice of viable forwards to choose from though, but Ings fixtures are good

    5. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Its just for 3 games. If it works, good, if not, move on.

    6. Boxwoods
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      But he’s a lethal finisher in a better attack with great fix for first 3. Also scores against tough opponents. I will probably move him to Bam after a few weeks, mind, but think I will start with Danny.

    7. Gabbiadini
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Somewhat yes, the no pens I agree. Although with Buendia potentially out I still want a Villa with their fixtures.

    8. CRAZY TRAIN
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      There's going to be tears when El Ghazi doesn't start

    9. Cruyff's Eleven
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Ings until Cavani starts

  11. CheesyZoot
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    With Buendia likely out and Tsimikas likely in I’ve come up with this:

    Sanchez
    TAA, Tsimikas, Shaw
    Mahrez, Bruno, (S)alah, Raphinha, Benrahma
    Ings, Antonio

    (Steele, White, Amartey, Scarlett)

    0ITB

    Not a massive fan of double West Ham attack but unsure of better options? Thoughts?

    1. adey70
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I like it a lot. Any love for Smith-Rowe of Arsenal - or even Dele Alli (you'll need to magic up .5 - eg Ings to Wilson) - in place of Benrahma?

      1. CheesyZoot
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Had thought about ESR but 2 out of his first 4 seem very tough for Arsenal... and not sure I can trust which Alli will turn up this season, the decent player or the useless moron

        1. adey70
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Ha - fair enough. It was a shock to look at Dele's player info and see it is five years since he was properly good.

          1. CheesyZoot
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            Yeh, I also hate his new haircut hahah

    2. El Presidente
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Template

      1. CheesyZoot
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Works for me, thanks!

    3. Yankee Toffee
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Ant > Toney, upgrade Raphinha solves dbl wham

      1. CheesyZoot
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Interesting, not sure I fancy going without Tony so it's a bit of a pickle

    4. Taribo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Son & Gilmore, and play Amartey. 0.5itb for Tsimikas to Ayling when Robbo returns.

  12. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Woodman in the game at 4.5.

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      booooo

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      rotters

    3. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Honestly I think it's fair given Darlow was also 4.5 and Woodman likely ahead of him.

  13. Gunners in Haaland
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    A) Mount + Mahrez
    B) Havertz + Grealish

  14. Amartey Partey
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Are you comfortable going in to GW1 with only one guaranteed starter on the bench?

    1. Ze_Austin
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Yes, but not GW4

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Hard to say without seeing your full team and bench

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Martinez
        TAA, Shaw, Tsimi
        Bruno (c), Salah, Greenwood, Gundo, Benrahma
        Ings, Antonio

        Foster, Amartey, Omo, Perica

        I know I could drop Martinez for Sanchez but Martinez is so good and has great fixtures I don’t want to. Also I will be WCing GW3

        1. Miguel Sanchez
          • 9 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          It's tricky - Amartey and Tsimikas should be good until GW3 but by then Greenwood and Gundogan could be rotation worries and Ings and Antonio's could have injury issues.

          I don't mind this set up but would caveat it that it could need an early WC for GW4, if you're prepared to use it that early if it goes wrong then you're golden

          1. Miguel Sanchez
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            Didn't read you line about WCing in GW3

          2. Amartey Partey
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            Cool thanks for the input! Yeah those players you mentioned “should” be good until GW4. My other option is to just play it safe and get Sanchez and Coufal.

        2. SpaceCadet
          • 11 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Have almost the same team. Except I have white and Barnes instead of Shaw and benrahma. Bench should be ok if you wc early.

          1. Amartey Partey
            • 6 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            Barnes could end up being a great pick. Good luck!

    3. Carlton P
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Noooo
      Foster l White l Ayling l Gilmour

      1. Amartey Partey
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        That’s a good bench

      2. RomeluStormzy
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Same but with brownhill

  15. Ze_Austin
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    4 million FPL teams, and counting...

    1. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      will be double that by the weekend

  16. Jimjam
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    (A) Tsimikas & Greenwood

    (B) Amartey & Jota

    1. cheeky moses
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Easy A

      1. Jimjam
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks!

    3. Carlton P
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A

    4. House Frey Wedding Planner
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      A

    5. SpaceCadet
      • 11 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      All 4

  17. Letsgo!
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Hi all,

    If i got shaw townsend deeney and alli is better
    Or son tsimikas brownhill and obafemi?

    1. Carlton P
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Townsend, deeney and Ali, I’ve just been sick in my mouth

      1. Letsgo!
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        ??

  18. Eat my goal!
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Tsimikas just outside the top 20 selected defenders

    1. farmerfat
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      He will be over 10% by the time gw1 comes along.

    2. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      He will probably be in the top 10 by gw deadline

  19. Carlton P
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Was hoping for Broja to be 4.5

  20. ZakyJ
    • 10 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    RMT:

    Sanchez (4m)
    TAA Tsikamas Shaw (Amartey White)
    Salah Fernandes Mahrez Benrahma (Brownhill)
    Ings Toney Antonio

    1. Pep's Money Laundry
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Nice. You can go stop tinkering now for a few minutes, lol

  21. JerseyD
    • 14 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Looking to do a 1v1 draft league with a mate.

    Anyone know if there is a YouTube video giving tips on ways to get the best players?

    I’m guessing going for keepers last is a good move, he can only have two and there are easily more than two good options

    1. LangerznMash
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Try and get the best players 😉

  22. Letsgo!
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Sanchez
    Shaw taa coufal
    Dele salah bruno townsend barnes
    Ings antonio

    Subs foster white veltman deeney

    1. Eat my goal!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Like the dele pick - good come back to being gold under Nuno

    2. Bartowski
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Dele and Townsend seem odd choices given the alternatives

      1. Letsgo!
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Why odd? U mean cause everyone took raphinha etc? But manutd vs leeds and leeds fixtures is not easy.

        Basically i jus feel spurs will do well against manc. I wanted son. But my team will be not that balance afterwhich

        1. Bartowski
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          I actually didn't realise how cheap they both were but still I'm keeping away from Everton and it would be a wait and see on Ali.

      2. Letsgo!
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Name me some alternatives for that range? Buendia is also out. Esr maybeee but arsenal nah

        1. HaffNanner
          • 8 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          Benrahma?

        2. Bartowski
          • 15 Years
          4 years, 3 months ago

          I'd rather take a punt on Harvey Elliot getting a run in the Pool team and find the extra .5 to upgrade Ali to a more certain bet like Barnes or Zaha or if Willock transfer goes through get him at 6 and then spend the extra to upgrade Townsend.

          1. Letsgo!
            • 9 Years
            4 years, 3 months ago

            I alr got barnes plus why harvey elliot? Nah

            1. Bartowski
              • 15 Years
              4 years, 3 months ago

              Dude you've got Andros Townsend who scored 2 goals in the last two seasons. You don't get to turn your nose up Elliot given how good he looked on loan for Blackburn.

    3. cheeky moses
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Solid. Would downgrade white to 4.0, townsend to 4.5 and use the cash to upgrade deeney

      1. Letsgo!
        • 9 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Nice i wil consider this. Maybe brownhill or gilmour and upgrade deeney to toney

  23. LangerznMash
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    BBC: "Nine new cases after latest Premier League Covid-19 testing. The Premier League has said nine new Covid-19 cases were recorded in the latest round of testing ahead of the 2021-22 season. Two rounds of tests were undertaken, totalling 3,118, between August 2-8."

  24. Bartowski
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Livramento and Amatey actually likely starters?

    1. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Livramento with a huge upside

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Amartey yes, Livarmento no (JWP first choice)

    3. FourLokoLeipzig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Only Amartey, I think

  25. United10
    • 9 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Mount of Gundogan?

    1. _Make
      • 8 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      That a biblical reference?

    2. Bartowski
      • 15 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Classy adult film you're thinking of seeing?

  26. Jackie Moon
    • 7 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Hey all. Not seeing too much love for Aston Villa defence from the little I’ve read so far. I thought their defence was really good last year and with Martinez price rise and their fixtures I reckon their 5m defenders are good options. Thoughts? Konsa would be my pick with Mings being late back to training.

    1. LangerznMash
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I've got Matty Cash.

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • 9 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I've got Martinez with the hope he can get up to 30 points in the first 3 GWs and then I can sell for one of Meslier, Henderson, Sanchez or Bachmann on my WC

      1. Pompel
        • 11 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        He'll get saves+baps for sure , but a planned transfer for a goalkeeper doesn't sit well with me - unless planning for early wildcard

    3. CRAZY TRAIN
      • 14 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Ashley Young is my differential for GW1

    4. Athletico Underachieving
      • 5 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Matt Cash here too. Feels negative in a way but worried about near 40% Martinez ownership for the first 3…easy switch out once fixtures turn

  27. shortestshort
    • 15 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    No Salah, no Bruno...no chance??
    Too balanced??

    Definitely too much tinkering...but got to say I quite like the flex to play 442, 352 etc as needed.

    Meslier
    TAA, Dias, Shaw, Coufal
    Mane, Son, Gundo, Barnes
    Ings, Bamford

    Foster, Harrison, Tsimikas, Obafemi

    1. Lemonade
      • 4 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I held an irrational grudge against Bruno but I couldn't not have him for the first few games, at least- (I don't have Salah myself)

      Here's my 2 cents:

      Mane > Bruno (transfer him out when you feel the need to get Kane/Lukaku
      Barnes > Jota (you keep a liverpool forward but you can still get Barnes at some other stage)
      Bamford > Rodrigo (gathering you'd need some funds for the other moves)

      1. shortestshort
        • 15 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Thanks - food for thought!

  28. DannyDrinkVodka
    • 6 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Planning Havertz>Son for GW2 (or Mahrez) by leaving 1.5 ITB…….is this a bad idea?

    1. Jackie Moon
      • 7 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      I’ve had the same thought recently, but still don’t like planning transfers for GW2. Thinking I might just go with Son first up.

      1. DannyDrinkVodka
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Cheers, I’m going to just go with Son

    2. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      your planned transfer goes out the window. what will happen is Havertz will get a goal or something, and you will have 3 other players you need to do something with / someone like Jota gets a hat trick and it all gets a bit weak at the knees.

      1. DannyDrinkVodka
        • 6 Years
        4 years, 3 months ago

        Thank you, very good advice

  29. Lemonade
    • 4 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Play Mahrez for the first 2 GWs and then transfer him out for Son or just get Son in straight away (saves a transfer)

    1. DannyDrinkVodka
      • 6 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Planned transfers at the start often backfire….and yet I’ve got Havertz>Son pencilled in

    2. cassanata
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Had the same dilemma, going with Mahrez from the start.

    3. cheeky moses
      • 10 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Just get Son imo

  30. Bambi
    • 13 Years
    4 years, 3 months ago

    Bit of a risky team, but squeezing as much as I can into mid and attack

    Sanchez - 4.0
    TAA - Shaw - Tsimikas - Amartey - Manquillo
    Salah - Bruno - Son - Raphinha - Benrahma
    Antonio - Iheanacho - Perica

    Too risk?

    1. Jonesfromthere
      • 13 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      Hate it

    2. Dr. Rog
      • 16 Years
      4 years, 3 months ago

      im on this pretty much. its almost a certain GW3 wildcard though but thats usually about as long as I can hold out anyway