Pre-Season
13 July 2025 52 comments
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Notepads at the ready: it’s time for the first batch of pre-season Scout Notes.

There are, of course, few meaningful takeaways at this early stage of the summer.

The focus at this point is on fitness and not form, with the six Premier League teams in action on Saturday only a few days into their pre-season training.

The standard of opposition also has to be taken into account. Can we really learn much from 4-0 wins over non-league sides, something both north-east clubs did today? And what size asterisk do we have to put next to Danny Welbeck’s four-goal haul, given that he was up against League One outfit Wycombe Wanderers?

The notes will be brief at this stage of pre-season, then, with more significant lessons to come the closer we get to Gameweek 1.

Crystal Palace 1-0 Millwall

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  • Goal: Rak-Sakyi
  • Assist: Mustapha

Borna Sosa only signed for Palace on Friday but, just a day later, he was making his Eagles debut.

The Croatia international, a bit of a cult hero among World Cup 2022 Fantasy managers, lined up at left wing-back in the behind-closed-doors friendly against Millwall.

The man that Sosa has been brought in to challenge, Tyrick Mitchell, operated (unconvincingly) on the opposite flank in the absence of Daniel Munoz.

No need to worry about the Colombian’s non-involvement: he, along with Palace’s other June internationals like the much-coveted Eberechi Eze, are yet to return to pre-season training.

Probably the biggest takeaway was the sight of Sosa on corners. He has previous at dead-ball situations: he was Stuttgart’s regular taker before relinquishing duties at Ajax and Torino.

The attack-minded defender also whipped in a good open-play cross for Jean-Philippe Mateta to nod wide. He’s one to monitor (especially if Eze leaves and there’s a void at set plays) but, as was the case when Ben Chilwell signed on loan last season, it’s likely Mitchell’s shirt to lose.

Another summer arrival, Walter Benitez, got the opening 45 minutes between the sticks. He got his gloves muddied a few times in an unremarkable contest, with Palace especially looking rusty.

Oliver Glasner named two different sides for each half against the Lions, with fringe and academy players featuring after the break. Jesurun Rak-Sakyi, who impressed last summer before being packed off on loan, scored the winner.

Crystal Palace first-half XI: Benítez, Clyne, Lacroix, Guéhi, Mitchell, Sosa, Wharton, Hughes, Esse, França, Mateta.

Crystal Palace second-half XI: Matthews, King, Ozoh, Jemide, Kporha, Adaramola, Rodney, Ahamada, Rak-Sakyi, Mustapha, Édouard.

Newcastle United 4-0 Carlisle United

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  • Goals: Longstaff, Joelinton, J Murphy, Parkinson
  • Assists: Barnes, J Murphy

We can tell you even less about this contest, as the behind-closed-doors friendly was a) unadvertised and b) not streamable. Match highlights have also yet to materialise, and may never will.

There were at least fitness-boosting minutes for long-term absentee Jamaal Lascelles, as well as others like Joelinton, who had issues at the end of 2024/25. A full pre-season for Sven Botman will also be beneficial.

As was the case with Palace, Newcastle’s internationals have had a longer breather and weren’t involved.

Anthony Elanga was present but only watching from the sidelines. New positional rival Jacob Murphy may have been even more motivated: he scored Newcastle’s third from a Harvey Barnes cut-back before teeing up Ben Parkinson for the fourth.

Sean Longstaff and Joelinton had scored before the break.

Newcastle United first-half XI: Pope, Trippier, Lascelles, A Murphy, Shahar, Longstaff, Miley, Willock, Sanusi, Neave, Osula.

Newcastle United first-half XI: Ruddy, Ashby, Botman, Schar, Targett, Hernes, Joelinton, White, Barnes, J Murphy, Parkinson.

Brighton and Hove Albion 6-1 Wycombe

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  • Goals: Welbeck x4, Buonanotte, Tasker
  • Assists: Slater x2, Rutter, Minteh, Buonanotte

And speaking of previously unadvertised friendlies, Brighton had one of their own.

Danny Welbeck will be pleased it was filmed: he scored four first-half goals as he prepares for the fresh challenge to his place from Greek pair Charalampos Kostoulas and Stefanos Tzimas. He could have had other goals, too, spurning two close-range chances.

Amid talk that Fabian Hurzeler may move to a wing-back system, the eye test seemed to suggest it was the standard 4-2-3-1(ish) of last season.

Overlapping left-back Jacob Slater cut the ball back twice for Welbeck, who, in between, was fed a close-range tap-in by Yankuba Minteh. Welbeck also scored after a blocked Georginio Rutter shot.

Returning loanee Facundo Buonanotte stole possession to score a late fifth before his touch ran to another young full-back, Charlie Tasker, to round off the scoring.

James Milner, who missed most of 2024/25, got half an hour as planned. One summer signing, centre-half Olivier Boscagli, also made his debut.

Brighton and Hove Albion first half XI: Rushworth, Slater, Boscagli, Dunk, Veltman, Mitoma, Baleba, Milner (Moran 30), Minteh, Georginio, Welbeck.

Brighton and Hove Albion second half XI: Rushworth, Cashin, Igor Julio, Webster, Tasker, Vickers, Mullins, Moran, Howell, Sarmiento, Buonanotte.

Chesterfield 0-0 Nottingham Forest

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Not much action to report from Forest’s annual friendly at Chesterfield, and not many first-teamers involved either.

Really, only Ola Aina and Callum Hudson-Odoi of the starting XI are what you would call regular starters, while Murillo came on at the interval.

All of the internationals – including supposedly Spurs-bound Morgan Gibbs-White – should belatedly return to training next week.

“Not sure this was worth 99p” was one review on the Forest message board, referring to the price fans had to pay to stream this game.

Hudson-Odoi tested the home goalkeeper with one strike and teed up Jimmy Sinclair for a big chance after the break but, in the sweltering sun after just a few days of training, this was just a bleep test on grass.

Nottingham Forest XI: Miguel (Bott 46), Aina (Murillo 46), Carmo (Abbott 46), Boly (Gardner 46), Richards (Morato 46), Stamenic (Powell 46), Yates (Berry 62), Jota Silva (Whitehall 62), O’Brien (Hammond 62), Hudson-Odoi (McDonnell 62), Taylor (Sinclair 46).

South Shields 0-4 Sunderland

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  • Goals: Isidor, Mundle, Aleksic, Abdullahi
  • Assists: Le Fee, Diarra, Roberts, Mayenda

Sunderland matched their rivals from up the Tyne and Wear Metro system with a 4-0 win over a National League (North) side.

Only one of the Black Cats’ summer signings featured at South Shields, and it was one who will likely carry little Fantasy interest: Habib Diarra, who looked a class act but crucially as the deepest of Sunderland’s central midfielders.

Diarra did at least grab an assist with a through-ball for Romain Mundle‘s goal.

Forwards Wilson Isidor and Eliezer Mayenda each got 45 minutes, the former scoring early and the latter teeing up Ahmed Abdullahi.

The big news from the Sunderland camp this week was that a defensive quartet are going to miss the first three Gameweeks.

Aji Alese, Luke O’Nien, Dennis Cirkin and Leo Hjelde will sit out the start of 2025/26. O’Nien and Cirkin were regulars at the back last season.

“Yes [we need to sign defenders]. Short answer!” – Regis Le Bris

Sunderland first-half XI: Patterson, Huggins, J. Jones, Ballard, Tuterov, Browne, Mundle, Isidor, Diarra, Seele, Le Fée.

Sunderland second-half XI: Moore, Neil, Johnson, Roberts, Middlemas, Mayenda, Triantis, Abdullahi, Aleksić, Hume, H. Jones.

Burnley 1-0 Fleetwood Town

  • Goal: Edwards

No footage or even line-up information exists for this one. Match details were also very brief, although we do know that Marcus Edwards grabbed the only goal of the match.

Quilindschy Hartman made his debut, while Jordan Beyer featured for the first time in 19 months after injury.

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  1. White Pony
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 7 Years
    4 months, 25 days ago

    Carlisle get a mention!

  2. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 months, 25 days ago

    Does anyone know why the 25/26 preseason minutes tracker hasn't been updated yet?

    Hub had updated theirs several hours ago.

    1. Sheffield Wednesday
      • 5 Years
      4 months, 25 days ago

      "The FFS Members Area V2 is nearly here", so hopefully it will be available soon after that.

    2. rainy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 10 Years
      4 months, 25 days ago

      Yes

      1. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        4 months, 24 days ago

        Who tracks the tracker?

      2. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 months, 24 days ago

        The ultimate pre-season guide hasn't even been added to the menu on the left hand side. To get to it you have to dig out the link in an old article.

        1. Sheffield Wednesday
          • 5 Years
          4 months, 24 days ago

          Or just click on the first top link header next to the FFS logo "FPL 2025/26 ULTIMATE GUIDE" which takes you to

          https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/fpl-2025-26-the-ultimate-pre-season-guide-tips-more

          which includes quite a bit about Burnley btw re your request below.

          1. The Knights Template
            • 12 Years
            4 months, 24 days ago

            Make him a Mod, make him a Mod! He knows the site and other tricks!

          2. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 months, 24 days ago

            Tried that before I posted. It doesn't take you to extensive preseason section.

  3. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 months, 24 days ago

    You gotta love the first set of preseason scout notes thou.

    FPL 25/26 starts HERE.

  4. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 months, 24 days ago

    With all the interest in Burnley's budget players this season, it's disappointing to see that little effort has been made to source meaningful information on the game. The local journalists from the Burnley Express would have been able to help out here.

    1. The FPL Units
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      What interest?

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 months, 24 days ago

        For people's 5th defender and 3rd striker.

        1. The FPL Units
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          4 months, 24 days ago

          No interest

        2. Hazz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 months, 24 days ago

          1st game of preseason isn't going to help that. Even last game of preseason people think they've got a cheap gem, and they end up not starting or even in the squad come GW1.

          1. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 months, 24 days ago

            Sean Dyche confirmed that for almost all managers the line up for the last preseason game is the line up for gameweek 1.

            1. HarveyKendallBall
              • 2 Years
              4 months, 24 days ago

              It’s the only friendly that really matters. The rest should be taken with a pinch of salt.

            2. Hairy Potter
              • 10 Years
              4 months, 24 days ago

              Eddie Howe doesn't follow that thinking, as we usually have two friendlies in two days at the end of preseason. There's usually a mix of players in both matches.

              1. FPL Virgin
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 9 Years
                4 months, 24 days ago

                That's because Howe is deceptive.

                1. Hairy Potter
                  • 10 Years
                  4 months, 24 days ago

                  Or he feels obliged to play first team players in both of the two home friendly matches.

                  1. FPL Virgin
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 9 Years
                    4 months, 24 days ago

                    Nah. I've listened to his pressers. It's to conceal his starting 11 for the opening league game.

  5. FPL Virgin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    4 months, 24 days ago

    So we lost absolutely vital information on the Forest game because Scout didn't pay the 99p to stream and watch the game.

    I know Jonty's 7-page, bureaucratic form to claim back expenses takes ages, but I could have given them the loose change in my wallet to cover it.

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      Sorry, but I own the rights to that game, nothing better to torture the prisoners with than a Forest v Chesterfield 0-0 draw!

      1. FPL Virgin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        4 months, 24 days ago

        Nuno ball strikes again!

    2. St Pauli Walnuts
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      Give it a rest eh sad sack.

    3. FHRITP
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      "Absolutely vital"

      Have a day off mate

  6. TheBiffas
    • 5 Years
    4 months, 24 days ago

    I had no idea Edouard was still at Palace lol

  7. have you seen cyan
    • 6 Years
    4 months, 24 days ago

    The game gets released this week right? Or am I wrong? How soon after the price reveals is the game released normally?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 12 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      Have they released the prices?

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 6 Years
        4 months, 24 days ago

        Nah not yet, but should be this week.

    2. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      Prices reveals started on Thursday 11th last season, with the game opening a week later (18th July)

    3. RedLightning
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      It should get released sometime in the next two weeks.

      The price reveals have never started before the essential updates to prepare for the new season have been completed, but the updates seem to take longer each year (3 days in 2021, 4 in 2022, 7 in 2023, 10 in 2024, and 17 so far in 2025).

      Last year the price reveals did not start till 7 days after the end of the updates, but I would hope that this year the price reveals will start fairly soon after the updates have been completed and that the launch will follow a few days later.

      Last year the FPL launch was on 17th July, 6 days after the first price reveals. Apart from 2020 when it launched on 15th August (the previous season having finished late after being interrupted and then extended because of COVID), this was the latest launch since 2016 (when they launched on 19th July).

      1. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        4 months, 24 days ago

        Wasn't it just rule changes announced on the 17th, with the game opened the following day.

        https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2025/07/08/fpl-is-updating-for-2025-26-how-long-did-it-take-to-relaunch-last-year

        1. RedLightning
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          4 months, 24 days ago

          No, they announced rule changes on 16th July and launched on the 17th.

          16 Jul: New prices revealed by app for 12 more players and by email for another 4; Big FPL changes announced, including being allowed to bank up to 5 free transfers and a new Mystery Chip.
          17 Jul: New prices revealed for all players from CRY; FPL started its final update at 11.02am and launched at 2.31pm.

          1. bitm2007
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            4 months, 24 days ago

            Thanks. Last weeks FFS article was out by a day for both then.

            1. RedLightning
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 15 Years
              4 months, 24 days ago

              The article was mainly based on information provided by myself in earlier comments.
              I might possibly have quoted those dates incorrectly in one of those comments, but the ones given above (16th and 17th July) are the correct ones.

          2. FPL Virgin
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 9 Years
            4 months, 24 days ago

            Mark's changes will take a substantial amount of time to code.

      2. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 9 Years
        4 months, 24 days ago

        Could be different this year, with no price reveals and just the game launching.....?

        1. Sheffield Wednesday
          • 5 Years
          4 months, 24 days ago

          Works for me

        2. Baps Hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          4 months, 24 days ago

          Nope. Why would they do that?

          1. Baps Hunter
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            4 months, 24 days ago

            There are marketing reasons for price reveals etc. There shouldn't be a need to explain them more thoroughly.

    4. have you seen cyan
      • 6 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      Thanks all

  8. HarveyKendallBall
    • 2 Years
    4 months, 24 days ago

    Does anyone have a rough idea what gw the European games will start, CL etc?

    1. Skonto Rigga
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      Bit of info here: https://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2025/06/22/when-do-premier-league-sides-begin-their-european-campaigns

      (Forest + Palace may be swapping, depending on the result of Palace's appeal)

      1. The Knights Template
        • 12 Years
        4 months, 24 days ago

        I don’t think either team will be scoring any goals this season!

    2. RedLightning
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      The first qualifying round for the Champions League was on 8th - 9th July.

      Spurs play PSG in the UEFA Super Cup on 13th August.

      Having been demoted to the Europa Conference League because of multi-club ownership rules, Palace have playoff round matches on 21st and 28th August.

      The League phase of the Champions League starts on 16-18th September.
      The League phase of the Europa League starts on 24th-25th September.
      The League phase of the Europa Conference League starts on 2nd October.

    3. HarveyKendallBall
      • 2 Years
      4 months, 24 days ago

      Thanks

  9. TheBiffas
    • 5 Years
    4 months, 24 days ago

    LFC preseason Vs Preston on now

    Excited to see Mamardashvili, Frimpong and Kerkez

  10. FPL Blow-In
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    4 months, 24 days ago

    Petrovic for 25m jeesh

  11. CoracAld2831
    • 4 Years
    4 months, 24 days ago

    PSG completely blindsided by Chelsea in the 1st half.

    I do not see them coming back unless Chelsea somehow gets a red card.