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16 June 2015 581 comments
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Having announced the news of Sam Allardyce’s departure just minutes after their defeat to Newcastle United on the final day of the season, West Ham filled their managerial void by appointing former player Slaven Bilic on a three-year contract last week.

Notwithstanding a breathless start to the 2014/15 campaign, the Hammers went into free fall at the turn of year, ensuring that the charismatic Croatian will arrive to a litany of issues. Speaking on his installment as the new Irons boss, Bilic assured fans he would do everything in his power to renew their optimism and push on for a top-half finish.

“I remember West Ham as a special club. My first priority when choosing a club is to look at its ambitions. When I spoke to the chairmen and Karren Brady, they made clear that it is not only the fantastic new stadium we are moving into, but they showed their determination and ambition to make what is a big club even bigger. I saw their determination and passion that they want to do that. That was the number one reason. I could feel that they really wanted me so it was an easy choice. I would say to the West Ham fans that I will give my best and together we will achieve great things.”

The History

Bilic agreed to manage his hometown club Hajduk Split on a temporary basis back in 2001, following his retirement from football the previous season. After the Croatian First League outfit sourced a new head coach, Bilic set about co-managing the Croatian U21 team (alongside Aljosa Asanovic), guiding them to the group stages of the U21 Euros qualification rounds.

The former centre-half earned his big break when taking over from Zlatko Kranjcar as the senior national team’s boss in 2006. From an English perspective, Bilic’s most pertinent period in charge of the Blazers arrived in the Euro 2008 qualifiers, when he led Croatia to a 3-2 victory over the Three Lions, thus consigning Steve Mclaren’s men to an inglorious exit during the group stages. Bilic eventually ended his stint with Croatia on good terms, boasting a 64.6% win record (42 wins in 65 matches).

Bilic’s next foray into management wasn’t such a success. The ex-Everton defender spent one year at Lokomotiv Moscow in 2012/13, commandeering the Russian club to their worst finish (ninth place) since the inception of the league. He was relieved of his duties that summer, having carded an underwhelming 38.71% win record (12 wins in 31 matches).

After that, Bilic signed a three-year contract with Turkish Super Lig outfit Besiktas just 10 days after his dismissal. During his tenure, Besiktas secured successive third-place finishes and progressed to the Europa League Round of 16 last season, triumphing over Tottenham and Liverpool in the process. Amid speculation that West Ham were poised to snap him up, Bilic resigned at the end of the 2014/15 campaign, ending his reign with a 52.17% win record (48 wins in 92 matches).

The Previous Regime

Following their relegation from the Premier League, Allardyce signed a two-year deal with West Ham on June 1 2011. Renowned for developing hard-nosed sides with a penchant for tough tackling and a long ball style of play, he was always an awkward fit for a Hammers faithful raised on the silky champagne football from the likes of Trevor Brooking and Alan Devonshire. Inevitably, his direct style of football prompted murmurings of discontent but they were quickly calmed as Allardyce steered the Irons to promotion via the play-offs.

Two solid seasons in the top flight of English football followed – harvesting mid-table finishes – before the dawn of the 2014/15 campaign beckoned in a shift in Allardyce’s philosophy. The appointment of Teddy Sheringham as attacking coach aided West Ham’s transition into a side that took the game to opponents in search of goals, abandoning Allardyce’s emphasis on prioritising clean sheets. With target man Andy Carroll ruled out of the first 11 league matches by virtue of a knee ligament injury, the Hammers boss structured their game around the pace and power of Diafra Sakho and Enner Valencia, with Stewart Downing initially excelling at the tip of a midfield diamond.

Buoyed by the form of their new recruits, West Ham stormed out of the blocks and rose to fourth place by Gameweek 17, with Allardyce even earning the Manager of the Month award for November. Events took a sharp turn for the worse in the second half of the season, however, as they recorded a pitiful three wins in their second batch of 19 fixtures. West Ham’s new cavalier style was abandoned as Allardyce’s side limped over the finish line, signalling the end of his tenure in charge.

The Season Ahead

From a tactical standpoint, Bilic primarily employed a 4-2-3-1 set-up during his spell with Beskitas but also adopted a 4-4-2 formation on occasion. That being said, the law graduate counsels fluidity over regimented banks of four and believes that traditional formations are “dying out”.

In an interview with BBC Sport, FourFourTwo Turkey’s Ahmet Yavuz shed some light on how the newly-installed Hammers boss is likely to organize his troops:

“In one of his first interviews in Turkey, Bilic said ‘my team is as energetic as Iron Maiden.’ He really delivered in that regard. With a 4-2-3-1 formation, he built a team with two dynamic defensive midfielders, one creative playmaker and wingers able to cut inside. Last season especially, Demba Ba showed that he was the missing piece of that formation with his ability to encourage midfielders to attack. In two years Besiktas transformed to an energetic, collective and fast team, playing with short passes.”

In his first interview after securing the Boleyn Ground hot seat, Bilic offered insight into the principles that underpin his playing philosophy. Of most interest, the ex-Croatia international stressed the importance of attacking in numbers and playing “good†football. Despite conceding that being compact against the stronger teams is paramount, it’s clear that Bilic espouses a front-foot-forward philosophy:

“To be successful you have to be good enough in every aspect of the team, you have to defend with numbers, you have to be very compact, very organised but also you have to attack with numbers and be good on the ball. The teams that I’ve managed so far, whether that be Croatia, Lokomotiv Moscow, Besiktas or Hadjuk Split, they were all teams with very high aims. To qualify, to top group with Croatia, to win the league with Split and Besiktas, with Lokomotiv top three, top five, so my style had to be dominant. With Besiktas, in 90 per cent of our games we had more possession, you are the better side, you are the one that is attacking and the opponent is on the counter. But in the games where we had to be compact like against Arsenal, we weren’t dominant. So you have to be both. But I like my team to play football, to play good football.”

Bilic’s first port of call will be to rejuvenate West Ham’s attack, in light of the fact they tallied just nine goals from Gameweek 23 onwards. Although he was sidelined for the final six fixtures of the season, Sakho wasn’t in the best form prior to succumbing to a thigh injury, having notched just one goal in six starts. Considering the similarly pacey and powerful Demba Ba enjoyed the best season of his career (27 goals in 44 outings) under Bilic’s stewardship, there’s hope that Sakho will benefit from his arrival.

The aforementioned Valencia (one goal from Gameweek 11) and Downing (one goal and assist from Gameweek 23) also have to shoulder some of the blame West Ham’s decline: their respective seasons plummeted after strong starts. Downing’s prospects next term will largely depend on how Bilic elects to set-up, with a 4-4-2 formation – featuring Carroll and Sakho as a strike partnership – likely restricting Downing to a less-profitable role on the flanks. The former Aston Villa man could well flourish if fielded in “the hole” in a 4-2-3-1 system, though there’s a chance he could be utilised as an inverted winger on the right.

Besides improving the fortunes of West Ham’s underperforming contingent, Bilic will also be keen to further the development of their emerging stars. Aaron Cresswell was a revelation for the Irons last term, chalking up two goals and four assists from his left-back berth and Bilic’s 4-2-3-1 formation – which employs inverted wingers and relies on the full-backs to supply the width – would certainly be conducive to further attacking returns for the young English defender.

In the meantime, Bilic has wasted little time in splashing the cash on Sampdoria enforcer Pedro Obiang in the centre of the park, whilst further reports suggest the new manager will receive significant backing in the transfer market, with Loic Remy linked with a move after a peripheral season for champions Chelsea.

Crucially, Fantasy managers should have plenty of opportunities to assess the Hammers prior to the domestic campaign. As reward for topping the Premier League Fair Play table last season, West Ham earned a spot in the Europa League qualification stages, which commence on July 2. To gain entry into the group stages, the Hammers have to win three two-legged qualifying matches and a two-legged play-off. Ally this with five other pre-season friendlies and we should have a fair idea of Bilic’s intentions ahead of the new campaign.

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  1. mm0507
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Why all love for Houska? I know he is cheap but all are.

    1. Camp No No
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      He's a tricky guy in a crappy team and has a funny name.

    2. mm0507
      • 12 Years
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      all Czechs*

      1. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Most of them are DM's.

        1. mm0507
          • 12 Years
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          but he is not nailed or anything

          1. Camp No No
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            You won't get any nailed attacking player for less than 6.5 in this game. Well, maybe some Swedish lad?

            1. mm0507
              • 12 Years
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              I will

            2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Nah, our players are quite expensive. Only Quaison at 6m is less and allthough he is a favourite of mine he is not completely nailed

              1. Camp No No
                • 12 Years
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                Well, for 6.5m you at least get some Serbian, don't you?

  2. Slaps
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    Looking to have a bet on the U21 to make the tournament a bit more interesting - problem is I have pretty limited knowledge of it all and looking for some advice as you all seem pretty well versed.

    Going to do a few top scorer bets and was hoping you could clarify if there worth doing or is there better options

    Belotti - Italy
    Carvalho - Portugal
    Mitrovic - Serbia
    Poulsen - Denmark

    Cheers!

    1. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Betting without knowledge is a perfect way to lose your money, and your choices affirm just that. These are some horror picks, except for Belotti.

      1. Slaps
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Well that's why I asked, I basically went from top scorers in qualifying - which as I have now been made aware my have been unwise. thanks anyway

    2. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      We *seem* well versed but it's all just a lie.

      Carvalho, as far as I'm aware, may not start. A Portuguese fan on here was tipping Paciencia to be the main centre forward.

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Oh hang on, he isn't some random player as Paciencia's competition, is he? You're talking about William Carvalho, the CM? Poor choice.

        1. Slaps
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I was talking about William, thanks for pointing that out!

          1. Lucy.
            • 12 Years
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            Pop on the uefa website for the U21 stats.

    3. mikess
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Carvalho is a DM and Mitrovic isn't even in the squad!

      1. Slaps
        • 14 Years
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        Cheers!

  3. The Nuttmxn
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    First draft with what looks to be a potential power 3 up front.

    Koubek (Pavlenka)
    Rugani / Vestergaard / Schulz (Jugas, Petkovic)
    Silva / Ward-Prowse / Younes / Christensen (Benassi)
    Berahino / Belotti / Hofmann

  4. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
    • 12 Years
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    Italy's team analysis is now out on just football

    1. GreenWindmill
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Ooh, now this is more interesting!

      1. mikess
        • 15 Years
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        I've read it, backs up my suggestion that to put Romognoli on your watchlists

        1. GreenWindmill
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          If he plays the first match we'll probably all transfer him in - I'm not brave enough to pick him GW1 though.

    2. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      That cements my Berardi love.

      1. GreenWindmill
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        And there was me reading it and feeling content with Belotti! Confirmation bias at its finest!

      2. BabyB
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I liked his 13 YC and 1 RC in 32 games. Good effort for a youngster! 🙂

        I think they will both do well but with Belotti on pens i'm sticking with him.

    3. The Nuttmxn
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      10 years, 5 months ago

      I love the Rugani quote:

      "I'm abitious, insatiable . . . I haven't drunk a Coca-Cola for four years"

      1. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
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        "...only beer for me."

        1. The Nuttmxn
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          😆

  5. Spencer
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    • 14 Years
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    Afternoon guys!

    Putting an U21 team together, even though I don't know any of the players! Any nailed on 4m defenders? I have Guerreiro and Petkovic already.

    1. mikess
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Illori maybe?

      1. Spencer
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        Thanks Mikess.

        Don't feel comfortable putting out a team based only on the names other people have been floating around!

    2. GreenWindmill
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      • 14 Years
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      Scholz and Sørensen should play for Denmark I think Spencer, all starts getting a bit hazy after that.

      1. mikess
        • 15 Years
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        Definetly. Sorensen is like a Danish Mert. Scholz will defo play but I got Busk in goal

      2. Spencer
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        10 years, 5 months ago

        Excellent. Thanks Windmill!

  6. mikess
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I won a replica ball not the last tourny the one before. Purely based on research. I got pipped at the last hurdle. Last tourny a few people done excellently i remember.

    Put in some research and be free for the subs and your genuinely in with a chance of winning something

  7. Lucy.
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Ok my old team didn't even last half an hour. Turns out the Paciencia lead was a load of rubbish and they haven't played a system with a traditional number 9 in the last few months.

    So I've now done Paciencia -> Berahino and made changes here there and everywhere to afford it. 😀

    1. mikess
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Looks like they play with about 5 wingers hence my Ricardo punt

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah they play a diamond with 2 wingers upfront.

    2. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I like the move 🙂

    3. mikess
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      who else did you sacrifice as there's a big cash difference

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
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        Vestegaard -> Scholz and downgraded Viviani, my 5th mid, to 5m fodder.

  8. mikess
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    The just football article highlighted Beradi's discipline issues. Combined with Belloti's pens this could be a big factor for those looking for Italy coverage

    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
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      But Berardi identified as possible star of the tournament. It's swings and roundabouts.

      1. mikess
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        It is but could help people decide

    2. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Berardi should be on pens if Di Biagio is sane

      1. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
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        True. But it seems Belotti has been so far, even with Berardi playing.

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 12 Years
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          Yeah it is strange to say the least

  9. Camp No No
    • 12 Years
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    Loved this from Guardian's analysis on Denmark:

    "Scouts will keep an eye on ... Pierre-Emile Hojbjerg (Bayern Munich, midfielder, €5m)."

    As if Bayern let him go for that money! He'd have some takers!

  10. mikess
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Whipping boys?

    Sweden, Czechs, Serbia

    1. The Nuttmxn
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      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I think the Czech's will be o.k as they play Germany last and you can transfer out before then.

  11. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I'm looking forward to the fixture list tomorrow so everyone can forget this brief U21 dalliance.

    1. Doolittle
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      It really is a bad sign when I'm sat in work trying to pick a team for a brief U21 tournament, involving players that I have mostly never heard of, never mind seen play.

      1. Nickofoz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Haha that's why I couldn't be bothered playing it 😀

        1. KujaliaFC
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          But there only a few thousand players, so it should be easier to win.

  12. JK - Cønt â­
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    so many people playing Fantasy U-21 or Copa America

    You absolute bunch of lunatic addicts 😆 😛

    Personally I'm enjoying the summer break to re-charge the batteries. Last season was quite stressful for me (did seriously consider not coming back to FPL it was that bad)

    Also enjoying my current semi-lurker status for other reasons

    1. Doolittle
      • 13 Years
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      That last sentence sounds extremely ominous.

      1. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        that is too long to go into

    2. Nickofoz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Completely agree, enjoying my break and don't want to have to research U21 players most of whom I haven't even heard of 😀

      That said, I do have exams coming up, otherwise I may have done Fantasy Copa America. Does that make me an addict? 😀

      1. Doolittle
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I have a perfect balance of enjoying my life outside of work, and not paying any attention to FPL, and using my work hours to do some FPL research and consideration.

        It's the perfect recipe for FPL success, a de-stressed mind, and unemployment.

        1. Fifa las vegas
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          😯

        2. Nickofoz
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Haha 😀

    3. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Stressful outside of FPL, I assume? If FPL is making you that stressed, you need help 😛

      1. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I do need help Lucy 😛 Sad;y I'm a bit beyond that now 😛

        but yes it was FPL and that is why i considered quitting because you're absolutely right, that is not what FPL should be

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          But JK, it's just a game!

          1. JK - Cønt â­
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
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            exactly

        2. Doolittle
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I did take a break 2 years ago largely because a busy life took over, but partly because I realised I was no longer really enjoying football, I was too focused on FPL points. It was bad to watch an 8 goal thriller, and be disappointed because you didn't have the main goalscorer, or a player you bought wasn't given an assist.

          Now I really enjoy FPL again; I've lost the mindset of it being actually important, and have started enjoying it as a game again. That's a hard mentality to get back into.

          1. JK - Cønt â­
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            This was it mate

            There were times last season when I literally wouldn't watch MOTD because I didn't want to watch a player I nearly bought but didn't do well, or a rival's player score a hat-trick

            That's not what FPL is about

            1. Lucy.
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              How do people get this obsessed? You have a football team to support, support them over any FPL loyalties!

              1. JK - Cønt â­
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                • 14 Years
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                oh if United had lost and I'd had a bad FPL week it was torture

              2. Doolittle
                • 13 Years
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                That's true, but it can affect games outside of your own team. I would only support Everton in our games, FPL would be irrelevant then, but if it was, for example, Chelsea v Arsenal, that's different.

                I've watched great games but been disappointed because, say, I've owned Cazorla and Ramsey has hogged the points. It's not like a crippling pain when it happens, but it slightly clouds your enjoyment of football. If your ML rival owns Walcott, you don't, and Walcott bags a hat trick, it's bound to taint your enjoyment slightly.

    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Onanism is a sin. Also gives you hairy palms ... 😉

    5. KujaliaFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      JK. You say "lunatic addict" like it's a bad thing.

  13. mikess
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Italy u21 beat an inter youth side 7-0 on Friday. Can anyone find the side?

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Backs up Romagnoli again!

        1. The Nuttmxn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I personally think he'll play but wanted goal threat.

        2. mikess
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          He's being linked with every top Serie A side. Extremely highly rated. The Italian Uefa correspondent just tweeted saying best two defenders since Nesta, Pannuci and Canno

          https://twitter.com/UEFAcomPaoloM/status/610507349317525506

      2. mikess
        • 15 Years
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        Good find. Looks like the first team started

  14. Fifa las vegas
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Going to the script on Saturday 😎

    *prepares for lines of abuse*

    1. Doolittle
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      *Vomit*

      I'm going to Derren Brown on Saturday 😎

    2. Nickofoz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
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      Got an exam on saturday 😎

      1. Fifa las vegas
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Good luck! 🙂

    3. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Sleeping on Saturday

      1. Nickofoz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        dreaming of Southampton's new away kit I assume?

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          The 'after eight' kit, inspired by our win vs Sunderland 😉

          1. Nickofoz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
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            Haha 😀

            Do you like it? I'm not so much of a fan myself

            1. Lucy.
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              I think it's awesome but yes, it's very much a marmite kit.

              1. Nickofoz
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
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                Indeed.

              2. The Nuttmxn
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                If only they were the away kit sponsor, I'd think about buying it

                😆

    4. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Waiting for the end to come 😮

    5. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Cuddling a Calippo on Saturday

      1. Fifa las vegas
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        😀

    6. Licky
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      It'll be Saturday on Saturday.

      1. Fifa las vegas
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        🙂

    7. HVT
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Enjoy FIFA-seen them before,they were excellent!

      1. Fifa las vegas
        • 13 Years
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        Thanks, hopefully!

        Back at home and all, I expect them to give it them all!

        Where did you get to see them?

    8. Black Knights
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Making the most of a complimentary Spa day, after buying the GF a spa and massage package for her birthday. I won't mind having a bit of sauna action while i wait!

      1. Fifa las vegas
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Sauna's are a bit too steamy for my liking, but enjoy!

        1. Black Knights
          • 13 Years
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          They certainly are that. I may just stick to drinking beer and doing a crossword or two on the roof terrace, but i'll see how i get on!

  15. Nickofoz
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    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    This is completely random, but the premier league facebook page posted a highlights reel of Bur 1 - 3 Chelsea in GW1, saying Chelsea top from start to finish or something. For Costa's goal, he tapped it in after Ivanovic's shot/cross hit the post and came out to Costa. That should be an assist, shouldn't it?

    1. Jaws
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      • 11 Years
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      Definitely! This basically messed up my whole season! Otherwise that Simon March fella would have had a tough run 🙂

      1. Nickofoz
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        • 11 Years
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        Haha, as I said completely irrelevant in the scheme of things but I thought shots against posts/keepers were assists

  16. Lucy.
    • 12 Years
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    Right I'm punting on Romagnoli, thanks Mikess.

    Butland Busk
    Ginter, Vestergaard, Romagnoli, Guerreiro, Petkovic
    Hojberg, Silva, Redmond, Leitner, Masopust(fodder)
    Berahino, Hofmann, Berardi

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Interesting names...

    2. mikess
      • 15 Years
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      I know it's a punt but why would they not give Biancetti no minutes when it looks like their starting 11

    3. mm0507
      • 12 Years
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      masopust actually can be good if he plays

      1. mikess
        • 15 Years
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        He'll probably get minutes, you've got the bench to sub him

    4. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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      • 16 Years
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      Think of the disappointment. 😉

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
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        I'm gonna win this thing, silly 😉

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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          Well, good luck. It is certainly different from mine! 😀

  17. Spencer
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    Oooohh, I do like the fact you can drag and drop the players in the U21 game as I do like having the players in their correct positions.

    If only I knew what positions they actually played.

    Oh well, guess I'm going for colour coordination instead!

    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Wisdom of crowds ...

    2. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I agree, both factors are very important to me as well, my team looks fabulous and organised.

      1. Spencer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I thought I had bad OCD until I saw what some of the people on here were like!

        1. The Nuttmxn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I am terrible, if I have two CB's I have to play the one most likely to play outside CB in the position. I also have to have the names look right.

          1. Spencer
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            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            It's reassuring to know that I'm not the only one.

  18. Beavis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I really don't want Redmond. How did he end up in my team?

    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      He certainly lacks end product... And he's in my team too 😀

      1. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Was the only way I could fit in Volland and Hofmann in. ðŸ™

    2. Spencer
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Same here. Just because he's 0.5 cheaper than JWP.

    3. mikess
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      ha that's what I keep thinking

    4. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Because you couldn't stump up the extra cash for JWP.

      1. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Don't want JWP either.

    5. mikess
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Who are the alternatives tho for 8.0?

    6. Fifa las vegas
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Who's forcing you to have him then?

  19. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Fixture list tomorrow...and I'm not gonna get caught out again for defenders

    10 easiest fixtures, Chelsea, cheap rotator, cheap rotator, cheap rotator.

    Soton have had the ten easiest fixtures for the last two years running, hardly anybody fancied them on GW1 for either season...and look what happened.

    I'm not bothered who they ere but that's the plan.

    1. Jaws
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Terry/Ivan at 7.0 - 7.5 is just too expensive for me. The others are not 100% nailed.
      Thinking of 5.5 ARS - 5.0 WBA - 5.0 SOT (Clyne's replacement) - 4.5 SUN - 4.5 SWA or LEI.

      1. Nickofoz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I'm guessing you think Bellerin will be 5.5 from Arsenal?

        Because I'd be a bit concerned about rotation at that price.

        Otherwise it looks good, although I'll probably be going with a Chelsea defender

        1. Jaws
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Bellerin is the first name on my defender's list. Bonus magnet, attacking returns and plays for a team that roughly will get you at least 15 CS. I will monitor his gametime but I remember Debuchy (although fit again) being glued to the bench for the last 2 months. The Charity Shield should give us a clear indication.

          1. Nickofoz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Fair enough. Attacking returns yes, bonus magnet I'm not so sure on (see Innsie's baseline bonus/min article).

            But with UCL, cups, BPL etc. surely prone to some rotation. I wouldn't be so sure

            1. Jaws
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              There will always be doubts, but I'm pretty sure AW has seen what an impression Bellerin has made in his 1st season. Chambers was truly awful at times and picked up a yc almost every game. Bellerin does not only give them speed, but his defending was good as well. That being said I wouldn't mind a minor Debuchy injury at the beginning of the season 🙂

              1. Nickofoz
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                Not really, with 5.5 defenders you don't want any doubts. Better off getting a nailed on 4.5 defender and saving elsewhere.

                Yes Chambers is awful, but he isn't the problem, Debuchy is. Wenger isn't scared to rotate as we saw with Bellerin, and on your point about his defending, it isn't all that great if you watch him.

                You might think I'm biased against him but I owned him for a long time this season and he was great for me, just not sure he is worth 5.5 unless, as you said, Debuchy is injured.

                1. Jaws
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  We'll see, Nick. AW is not afraid to keep defenders a whole season on the bench is he's happy with what he sees (eg. Vermaelen) and he has praised Bellerin on multiple occasions. At his age he will only get better. The big issue here is Bellerin and Walcott. Way too attacking. Walcott should shift to the CF position, to get more balance on right wing.

                  1. Nickofoz
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 11 Years
                    10 years, 5 months ago

                    Hm, I remember when Chambers was nailed on (ha, remember his 18 point haul) AW said he was reluctant to play young players so much.

                    Of course he'll only get better, but that doesn't necessarily mean he will play.

                    And yes I agree with the Walcott point. Leave Ramsey on the right.

          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Correct. Moi aussi.

    2. Raddy
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Not sure it is worth starting with a Chelsea defender, with the possible exception of Ivan because he always starts the seasons with as few goals. The big defences never seem to start as tight and may not justify the price.

  20. mikess
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Leitner or Redmond?

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Redmond probably and use the German spot otherwise

  21. Holmes
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Releasing players' price instead of fixtures would have been better

    1. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I disagree.

      1. Holmes
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Everyone has different taste 🙂

    2. Jaws
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Even before the transfer window opens? Don't think so...

  22. Beavis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone actually know who the Czech goalie will be? Pavlenka or Koubek? I know I should just get Busk but there is logic in my madness.

    1. Prime
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      We'll know before the deadline, easy swap if you can be online.

      1. The Nuttmxn
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        This.

      2. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Ah yea, forgot about that. Thanks. 🙂

    2. mikess
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      going with Scholz as danish cover then?

      1. Beavis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah without having to lose LV and Hojbjerg

      2. mikess
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        potentially saves 0.5 bhy doing that. I have Busk and KadeÅ™ábek but the Czech keeper and Scholz would be cheaper

    3. KujaliaFC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I'm currently counting on it being Koubek.

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Me too. But it's an easy switch. Koubek wearing the No. 1 shirt bodes well.

  23. Mr. Grv
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    What will we do if there is fire in FPL tower and data gets lost and they decide to skip this year and start thereafter ?
    I can see some of you guys calling strikes 😀

    1. Holmes
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      It'll be awesome!

    2. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I'll start a revolution!

    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I have acquired a brazier ...

  24. Doolittle
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Everton are allegedly after Kagawa:

    http://www.evertonpodcast.com/2015/06/16/blues-chase-japanese-superstar/

    1. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Never going to happen.

      1. Doolittle
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah it reminds me of the "Riquelme to Everton" rumours that were around for about 10 years.

        "My mate's brother just saw Riquelme buying a burger in the Maccies on Church Street. Needs a happy meal for the journey to Goodison".

        1. The Nuttmxn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Sadly so, I wish the Riquelme one was true to this date.

    2. Nickofoz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      lol.

    3. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Come on doolittle. You know better than to believe this

      1. Doolittle
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I do, I probably should have capitalised, italicised and bolded (is that a word?) "allegedly". Looking further into the story, it's been mentioned in the Echo, but only with "according to reports" - no actual source.

        As you say, it's almost certainly garbage.

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Whats happening with McCarthy? Is he leaving?

          1. Doolittle
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            I really hope not, and I haven't seen anything concrete to suggest he is. He denied that he was looking to leave, and I honestly can't really see where he'd go.

            I think he's great, where is he going to go that's a step up? The top 4 won't be interested in him, he's never going to displace Ramsey/Fabregas/Toure et al. Spurs would possibly be an option, other than that I just can't see it.

            1. The 12th Man
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              It'll be Bamford and Deulofeu next.

              1. Doolittle
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                I'd be delighted to see Deulofeu back, not seen too much of Bamford but heard good things.

                Even Marc Wilmots hasn't been too kind about Lukaku:
                http://www.goal.com/en/news/7157/euro-2016-qualifiers/2015/06/13/12678012/wilmots-lukaku-and-benteke-stood-around-like-two-poles

                1. The 12th Man
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  Yeh I hope we get Deulofeu back, certainly adds some excitement to the team. Not sure about Bamford.
                  What do you think of the Podolski rumours? I think his wages would be too much.

                  1. Doolittle
                    • 13 Years
                    10 years, 5 months ago

                    Agreed, I think he's on £75kp/w at Arsenal, and I wouldn't want to pay anywhere near that for him.

            2. internal error
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Palace, swansea, southampton??

              1. Doolittle
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                I'm not going to bite 😉

                1. Lucy.
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  Haha good call. It's rubbish anyway.

                2. internal error
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 5 months ago

                  😉

    4. The 12th Man
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Why do Everton keep chasing ex Man Utd rejects?

      1. Doolittle
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Because we're rubbish.

  25. mikess
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Individuals aside. What is the healthiest balance of Group A and Group B players?

    Arguably group B are the better sides.

    I'm on 8 from A and 7 from B, I reckon I'm leaning towards the first teams to play

    1. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I think you want Danes and Germans from Group A and then anyone but Swedes in Group B.

      1. KujaliaFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Maybe a Swede striker. They do score goals, apparently.

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Possibly but then there are a lot of attractive premium strikers.

    2. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I think you want more A players because otherwise you risk wasting money on B players (if your A players have already scored well).

      1. mikess
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Interesting point

  26. JK - Cønt â­
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Mirror reporting Sunderland have agreed a deal to sign Carl Jenkinson on loan

    1. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      So west ham will be in the market for a rb.

      1. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        GJ is still available

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Thought he was going to sign for a turkish team.

      2. Spencer
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Glen Johnson going back?

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Interesting both of you think that could happen.

          1. Spencer
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            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Based on absolutely nothing though Rupert.

            1. Rupert The Horse
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              My favourite basis for transfer news.

  27. GreenWindmill
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Anyone got a well thought out tactic on wildcard usage in the U21 game or is everyone (like me) hoping an obvious opportunity materialises during the tournament?

    1. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I'm going for double Czech goalies so probably for GW3 of the group so I don't have to play them vs Germany.

      1. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Two Czech goalkeepers? Interesting, haven't seen anyone else doing that. Not tempted to go for one Czech and Busk (assuming he plays) to spread your options? We'll see the line ups before the deadline.

        1. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Presumably loaded on Denmark already, plus you don't really get any benefit from doing that as they play on the same day anyway.

          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Sure, but you get to pick between 2 fixtures instead of 1.

        2. The Nuttmxn
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Current side below. I don't want to rotate goalkeepers who play on the same day and none of the goalies from the other side fitted my criteria. Double up should cover injury or red card and let me leave it alone.

          Koubek (Pavlenka)
          Rugani / Vestergaard / Schulz (Jugas, Petkovic)
          Silva / Ward-Prowse / Younes / Christensen (Benassi)
          Berahino / Belotti / Hofmann

          1. GreenWindmill
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Fair enough, nice to see some variation in approach 🙂

            Haven't seen Younes in many teams - he could be a nice pick if he gets the game time.

            1. The Nuttmxn
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Variation is my middle name 😉

              Younes is a punt, has a couple of goals in his U21 career and very attacking.

    2. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Either GW 2 or GW 3 is the obvious strategy seeing as you get 6 FTs for semis and another 6 for finals.

      If you do it in GW 3, you can cater for any rotation for the teams that will have already qualified but you don't want to be stuck with those players after. 6 FTs should suffice to fix that though. Alternatively you could load up on Italians, Germans and Danes for GW 1 assuming you think they'll win, leaving behind ENG-POR as a tougher game and then playing your WC in GW 2.

      1. mikess
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Your last point is worth pondering. I'm hoping on a goal fest in that game tho

        1. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          England conceded 2 goals in 10 games in qualifying (albeit some against poor opposition).

          1. mikess
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Just outscored Germany the last time we played some quality

      2. GreenWindmill
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Good assessment. Seems like most teams have the Germany/Denmark/Italy cover sorted anyway (my current draft has 8 from those 3 teams) so I guess I'm leaving my options open.

        1. Beavis
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah it seems hard not to have most based covered considering that there are such few teams.

    3. Prime
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      GW3 most likely, plenty of free transfers in later rounds.

    4. Konig Luther
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      final round of group stage... 2 extra lineups available and can deal with possible rotations if we have some team qualified

  28. Lucy.
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Who is gambling on Korb?

    1. Prime
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      o/

      1. Prime
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Disclaimer: I also swaped Bardi-Garbutt for Butland-Romagnoli so I might be taking this a bridge too far.

    2. Zombie
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      gambling is bad!

    3. Beavis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I don't think I trust the German defence enough.

    4. GreenWindmill
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I may be gambling on Korb, Gibson and Romagnoli - if it goes wrong I'm down to 2 defenders!

    5. Doolittle
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I am as it stands, I may downgrade Battocchio to Viviani to get Schulz.

  29. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Gaël Kakuta close to joining Sevilla. Chelsea will be due some compensation.

    1. The Nuttmxn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      On loan or permanently, Kakuta's been on so many loans he needs a solid club, I mean Chelsea bought him in 2009.

      1. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Permanent.

  30. J0E
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    New community article published.

    Here's Saniul with a look at Group A's likely line ups and key players.

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2015/06/16/uefa-euros-u21-fantasy-game-group-a-guide/

    ...also watch out later for our article on the game's key players to consider.

    1. Doolittle
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Don’t be fooled by Julian Korb’s price. He has been talked up to get a senior team call-up, only right back in the side, also. Emre Can said ”he will likely play in the midfield”.

      Excellent!

    2. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Great work Saniul......Jonty, probably worth posting on the next page?