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13 July 2015 1397 comments
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Liverpool’s breathless start to the summer transfer window showed no sign of abating in the wake of Roberto Firmino’s £29 million switch to Anfield. The former Hoffenheim attacking midfielder – who became Brendan Rodgers’ fifth signing of the close season – recently shot to prominence with Brazil in the Copa America, netting the Selecao’s winner against Venezuela in the group stages of the tournament.

Discussing his move with the Hoffenheim official website, the 23-year-old vowed to nail down a starting berth with the Anfield outfit:

“First and foremost, I’m looking forward to the new challenge and I’m excited to see what the Premier League has to offer. Of course everything will once again be new to me at the start. I’m going to have to get used to a new playing style, but I’ll also get the opportunity to improve my game even further there. Obviously I’d like to establish myself as a starter in my new team and go on to celebrate a lot of success at Liverpool.”

The History

A Brazil native, Firmino was born in Maceio and started out at his local club, CRB (Clube de Regatas Brasil). Five years of training ensued, before he teamed up with Serie B (second tier of Brazilian football) outfit Figueirense in 2008. Firmino broke into the senior side in October 2009 and netted eight goals in 36 appearances during his one full season with the Hurricanes, who earned promotion into the top flight.

Firmino’s exploits in South America alerted a number of suitors across the Atlantic, with Hoffenheim shaking off the competition to land the midfielder on a five-year deal. Firmino joined at the midway point of the 2010/11 season and went on to net three goals in 11 appearances from an advanced central role.

Building on this solid foundation, Firmino tallied 11 goals and seven assists across the subsequent two Bundesliga campaigns. The 2013/14 season served up the greatest riches, though, with the Brazilian starlet amassing an impressive 16 goals in 33 league outings, ranking third in the scoring charts behind Marco Reus (30) and Robert Lewandowski (31). In addition, he registered 12 assists that term and bagged six goals in four cup fixtures.

Firmino’s final campaign at the Rhein-Neckar Arena produced ten goals and 12 assists across 36 appearances in all competitions. His laudable domestic displays were rewarded with a debut senior cap for Brazil in November against Turkey, which swiftly led on to his debut goal against Austria less than a week later. More recently, Firmino guided Brazil through to the quarter-finals of the Copa America with a close-range strike against Venezuela.

The Prospects

With the signing of Danny Ings and now Firmino, Rodgers is clearly searching for a solution to Liverpool’s relative paucity of goals last term, given that the Merseysiders chalked up 49 fewer without Luis Suarez spearheading their attack. Aside from netting 33 times in 73 outings over the past two seasons, the Brazil international also created more chances (138) than any other Bundesliga player over that stretch and directly contributed to 45 goals in his previous 66 appearances – illustrating his creative prowess.

As for his potential role within Rodgers’ set-up, Firmino primarily operated as a traditional number ten at Hoffenheim but was also comfortable lining up on the left flank – with Germany’s U21 star Kevin Volland on the opposing wing – or employing his pace as the central forward in a 4-3-3. It’s worth noting, however, that all seven of his league goals last season arrived when he was deployed in “the hole”.

With Raheem Sterling looking set for pastures new, Firmino is likely to be handed a central support role behind a lone striker, though as we saw last season, that could be in a 3-4-2-1 or 4-2-3-1 formation. The former system could see him twinned with Philippe Coutinho in the advanced roles, with Ings or, potentially, transfer target Christian Benteke spearheading the Reds’ attack until Daniel Sturridge finally recovers from injury.

On that note, Firmino’s impeccable injury record would doubtless have been factored into Liverpool’s thinking in light of Sturridge’s recurring layoffs. The Brazil international has missed just one league outing in each of the past three Bundesliga seasons, which suggests he’s made of sterner stuff that the former Chelsea striker when it comes to avoiding knocks and niggles.

It’s worth noting that Firmino and Coutinho were handed three weeks off due to their recent showings in the Copa America and still have another week or so before they link up with their team-mates.

At 8.5 in the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) game, though, Firmino’s reputation clearly precedes him. Given that Coutinho sets you back 8.0 and Jordan Henderson – who could well be handed spot-kicks – comes in at just 7.0 along with another new signing, James Milner, there are certainly more budget-friendly options in the Liverpool midfield.

Nonetheless, Firmino’s record in Germany suggests he could wreak havoc in his new surrounds and afford the Merseysiders a much-needed spark in the final third. Whilst the Reds’ first three away fixtures look tricky (sto, ars, mun), Rodgers’ side are handed four very obliging home matches (BOU, WHM, NOR, AVL) in the opening seven Gameweeks which more than atone for those road trips and could easily see the new boy hit the ground running.

Further Reference

Roberto Firmino Wikipedia Page

Roberto Firmino Transfer Markt Page

Roberto Firmino YouTube Highlights

  1. Doolittle
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone managed to create a squad containing Aguero and Costa/Rooney that they're happy with?

    1. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Looking into that as we speak! First instinct is no because I also want Hazard.

      1. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        +1

      2. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I have one with all three which i'm quite content with.

    2. Bambi
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      yeah, have had to drop out hazard though. I think Costa is adequate cover for chelsea attack

      Schmeichel - Hamer
      Azpi - Koscielny - Rose - O'Shea - Targett
      Walcott - Mata - Chadli - Ritchie - Wanyama
      Aguero - Costa - Sakho

    3. The Light Knight
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Ruddy Butland
      Kos Azpi Matthews O'Brien Morgan
      Hazard Chadli Cabaye Ki Wanyama
      Kun Rooney Sakho 0.5 ITB

      1. Bambi
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        like it, but i would be wary about having Ki and no backup 5.0M mid. I would not feel comfortable playing Ki every week

        1. The Light Knight
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          There is 0.5 if you would like to upgrade Wanyama 😉

          1. Bambi
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            i would, wanyama to abdi, after gw3 i think abdi and Ki rotate nicely

            1. Lucy.
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Or Albrighton. 😀

            2. The Light Knight
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Fair enough, I'm not using this team (i only have 4/5 in common) - it's just one I like the look of

      2. Doolittle
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        That midfield is much too lightweight for my liking.

    4. Lucy.
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      I'm on:

      Schmeichel/4.5
      Azpilicueta, Cedric, Morgan, Coates, Francis
      Fabregas, Mata, Ramsey, Ritchie, Wanyama
      Rooney, Aguero, Sakho

      Fairly happy with it 🙂 Well it's the happiest I've been with a draft squad.

      1. Bambi
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        i like it, however the absence of the 'premium' chelsea and arsenal attacks, i.e costa, hazard, walcott, sanchez could hurt

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Yes, it could. It's definitely a risky strategy. 🙂

      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        What do you think of having Mane?

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I've got reservations about paying 8m for him.

      3. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I have something extremely similar.

        Basically if I want Rooney and Aguero to be happy with rest of team I'd have to ship Hazard....which I'm not too happy about.

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah I started without Haz last season and I'll probably risk it again. Owning Hazard is an inevitability but it's just a question of how soon.

          1. meerlight
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            54.8% ownership on haz is a bit worrying. but, i'm also on fab atm.

      4. Doolittle
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Nice, I'm liking that. May have to ditch Ivanovic and/or Koscielny if I'm to manage it, but I swore I would not make the same budget defence mistake again this season.

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I don't think 6, 5, 4.5x3 is THAT budget 😀 Well it's more expensive than I tried last season anyway 😉

          1. Doolittle
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            It's not uber budget like my Caulker/Bruce extravaganza last season, but I was determined to have a couple of premium defenders to start. May abandon that now.

    5. The Machine
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      No becuase aguero wont start the first game

      1. BRONALDINHO
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        you can't know that

    6. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah means having a 5.5m mid rather than Hendo is fourth and Azpi rather than Ivan if I wanted Costa over Benteke.

    7. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Yep! 😀

    8. BeachBadger
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Possibly but would mean Id have to forgo Hazard. So it comes down to Costa or Hazard at the mo

    9. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Hows this -

      Lloris Boruc
      Azpili Cederic PvA Colo Oshea
      Hazard Ozil Puncheon Arnie Wanyama
      Rooney Aguero Wilson

      Midfield takes a battering

      1. Bambi
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        like the arnie pick, could work well. I would personally downgrade and upgrade some of your 4.5-5.0 defenders as at the moment it looks like you will bench a lot of points

    10. Del Monte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      yes and hazard and ivanovic

      1. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Would love to see that team!

        1. Del Monte
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Schmeichel Hamer

          Ivanovic Aldeweireld O'Shea 4.5 A.Smith

          Hazard Ozil Henderson Ritchie Bentaleb

          Aguero Rooney C.Wilson

          1. andy85wsm
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            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Interesting, cheers 🙂

          2. Doolittle
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            😯 Have you got more money than the rest of us!? Is that really only 100m?

            1. Del Monte
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Yes 100 million exactly.

              Seems like I should have kept this secret.

              Damn!

    11. Forza
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Courtois 4.0

      Mertesacker 4.5 4.5 4.5 4.0

      Hazard Chadli Mata Puncheon Wanyama

      Aguero Costa Sakho

      Costa kills the defence and midfield 🙁

      1. Forza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        And that is 100.5

      2. Bambi
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        wow, going for all three big guys really does kill the defence. The midfield is strong. I like it, but the lack of arsenal attack is a huge worry.

        1. Forza
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah, Lukaku in for Costa means Ramsey in for Puncheon and Williams in for 4.5

    12. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      R & R
      Azpi Huth OShea Saylor J.Ward
      Hazard Mata Yaya 5.5 4.5
      Aguero Deeney Costa

    13. Jay_
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Ruddy Butland
        Cedric Williams(Morgan) Jenkinson(Francis)
        Hazard Walcott Henderson Ritchie Wanayama
        Aguero Rooney Deeney

        1. Dinamo Drachma
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Ruddy - Rudd
          Ivanovic - Cedric - Morgan - Coates - Francis
          Fabregas - Mata - Ramsey - Ritchie - Wanyama
          Aguero - Costa - Deeney

    14. Dino
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      The fee is crazy for sterling but you could argue that Utd are taking more of a gamble with their money.

      Sweini is 30, ml may take time to adjust and even if he hits the ground running he only has a couple of good years left.

      Depay is a gamble also. Ryan babel came to Liverpool for a big free from Dutch football and a big rep but flopped massively. I don't think this will happen to Depay but itcould.

      Darmian based on evidence of previous players coming from the Italian league is likely to be a massive fail.

      Sterling has been the most creative player from play joint top with hazard in 2014 and city know he can play in the epl so no adjustment required and he is a long term signing and as the best player of his generation covers at home grown spot for the quota.

      Agree/disagree

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        AGREE.

        PLUS FORTY-TWO!

      2. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I wouldn't argue that we've taken more of a gamble.

        I also don't think the Sterling fee was that crazy - actually think he may repay it eventually.

      3. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I don't agree with the United players but I do like Sterling even at that price

      4. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Disagree in general. I think all three of those United players you mentioned will thrive in the Prem.

        Although i don't think Sterling is a gamble either, just over priced

      5. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Schwienstriger cost them only 14m though. Hardly a gamble that sort of money these days. Good signing if he can give them 2 or 3 decent seasons

        1. dribbler
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          but "Schwienstriger" has little or no resale value and may be more likely to spend time injured and/or be replaced in the Utd team in a couple of years at which point he's an expensive reserve

          and there's a good chance Sterling will be worth upwards of £40m when city come to sell him

          so I'd say there's a good chance Bastian will cost Utd more per season than Sterling will cost City...and that's without factoring in the possibility that Sterling could be sold for a hell of a lot more than £40m

          1. Dino
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah I didn't bring resale value into it but it should be considered when looking at who has done the best business.

      6. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Completely disagree. Sterling is not worth 50m. United are strengthening in areas with the quality.

      7. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        As a United fan I believe Sterling will do very well at City. He's still young and looks good enough to win a starting spot over Navas to make the RW spot his own. He suffered without Suarez last season but with a proper striker to work with this time I expect Sterling will have a very good season.

        Schweinsteiger will bring some much needed experience to a young squad. This is extremely important now that United are back in the champions league. Remember, its only a 3 year contract so he was bought with the next 2 years in mind.

        Depay/Darmian - Many good players have been bought from those leagues as well, we simply don't know how they will adjust so yes they do represent something of a risk but we'll see.

        1. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          All good points. I guess my comment was more to do with the incredulity of some people over the fee city are paying while at the same time saying Utd are doing great business.

          Fwiw the only one I see really struggling for Utd is Darmian but I really don't see Depay as that much of an upgrade on adm/young and sweini as much of an upgrade on Carrick/herrera we are talking incremental upgrades at most whereas I think sterling is a huge upgrade on navas/nasri imo.

          I guess we'll see in time who is doing the best business

          1. Ryan
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            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Carrick is 34 and ADM is struggling a bit. These are the guys who are essentially being replaced. Might get 1 more good season out of Carrick but then he'll be done. ADM looks likely to be sold to PSG for around 50m

            1. Dino
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Yeah makes more sense when you out it like that. Are Utd going to be "that" much better than last season with these signings though then? Surely Depay is not an upgrade on adm?

              1. Ryan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                • 14 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Depay is an upgrade on Young. Remember Young ousted ADM last season on the left flank 😉

                1. Ryan
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 14 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  Hence why I'm rather keen for ADM to be sold for 50m

                  1. dribbler
                    • 16 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    that's right...if they sign Sneiderlin and Schweinsteiger it's still possible that ADM could be a starter in central midfield but it looks more likely that he's going elsewhere

                    Depay might need to adjust but he's not been bought as a reserve

      8. pompeyfan
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        You can't possibly compare Depay & Babel. Depay has already shone in the WC and scored and assisted loads of goals last season. The most Babel ever got in a season for Ajax was 8. More fool Liverpool - he was never as highly rated as Depay is.

        1. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Fair enough pompey I did say I didn't think Depay would struggle like babel but I was just looking for a player who played a similar position who arrived for a lot of money from the same league.

          1. pompeyfan
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            no probs. You could also have compared him to Suarez 😉 after all their numbers weren't too dissimilar

            1. Dino
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Suarez was an out and out forward though right? Maybe Depay is the same but I though he looks more like a winger from what I have seen?

              As per below the recent successes of Dutch league players in epl makes it much more likely he will succeed. Still a bigger gamble than sterling though imo although the fee reflects that.

              1. pompeyfan
                • 16 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Suarez played on the wing in a 4-3-3, just like Depay.

                1. Dino
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  Interesting pompey thanks as usual for the info. It is very hard for us to judge these players coming into the league with just a few international games and some YouTube highlights to go on. Was he as good a footballer as suarez or more of a traditional winger who uses pace to find space?

      9. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I don't understand the love for Dutch footballers at the moment their main league is a very weak league and their international team is awful. Not so long ago Ron Vlaar was being touted as one of the best defenders in the world

        1. pompeyfan
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          finalists and semi-finalists the last 2 world cups. It has been a bad start to Euro-16 qualifiers but we can still come good.

          1. Camp No No
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            So.... I don't understand this love for English footballers. Their international team is worse than awful.

            😉

        2. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Bit harsh I must say, they are decent value compared to signings from some leagues tbf. Some have been unqualified successes

      10. Demí
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Disagree on United Dino. I know you don't rate the Italian league, so your comments on Darmian aren't surprising. Can't really say i've watched him much tbh, but he was apparently superb in the World Cup for Italy. Great engine on him, and can defend and attack better than Rafael/Valencia so an upgrade there.

        Agree with Schweinsteiger being a short term signing. Think he likes working with LVG though and that partnership could help him. He won't play every game, and will need to step up physically, but brings so much experience and know-how.

        R.E. Depay. can't really say much, so will just refer to pompeyfan. Depay coming at a younger age though isn't he and has plenty of time on his side.

        I think Sterling is a great signing for City, but also a good deal for Liverpool.

        1. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          All fair comment demi.

          Re Darmian I'll obviously reserve judgement but as you say my scepticism comes partly from my disdain for the level of the Italian league but it is more based on the output of the players in the epl that have been signed from there. Hard to disagree that players coming from Italy just don't do it in the epl any more while the epl duds seem to thrive over there.

      11. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Disagree with you there Dino. Scweini is top tier and if he gives us 2-3 years of quality, more than enough. Schneider man, proven in the league. Depay is a gamble but one that LVG knows closely so im hopeful.

        1. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I think sweini was a cracking player but I don't think he has it in him to play 50 odd games at such a high level in a single season anymore

      12. Jarvis
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I know they're a different type of player but Bony came from Vitesse

      13. Camp No No
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Depay comparable to Babel? 😆

        There's a difference between hype and performance.

        Babel, transfer at 21, 3 seasons, 14 goals and 6 assists in 72 matches in Eredivisie, 6 goals and 3 assists in 28 matches in Uefa Cup and CL (qualifiers included). After promising first season of 7 goals, next two only got him 2 and 5 goals, respectively, just matching his first seasons record in the course of the two latter combined.

        Depay, transfer at 21, 4 seasons in Eredivisie, 39 goals and 18 assists in 90 matches in Eredivisie and 8 goals and 7 assists in 24 CL and EL matches (qualifiers included). Steady progress: after promising starts of 3 goals and 1 assists in just 8 appearances and 2 goals and 3 assists in 20 apps at ages of 17 and 18, he scored 12+8 and 22+6 in his last two seasons, and also got 5 of his EL goals in the last season alone.

        It's hard to say Babel even was a flop. In fact, despite coming from what at the time was very weak Eredivisie, he continued at about the same or better rate. He scored very nice 5 goals in CL in his first season for Liverpool, and 4 goals and 3 assists in 700 minutes less of PL football than he needed in Eredivisie to score 5+5 in his last season. On second season, too, 3 goals and 1 assist in just 800 minutes, which betters his Eredivisie rate.

        1. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          As per above the comparison was just between a player who played a similar position (I think Depay played more as a forward?) and arrived for a big fee with a big reputation. I never meant to sound like I thought they were of the same level just that one never did it in epl and the same "could" (I did say I don't think it will) happen to the other also.

          To me Utd signings are riskier than cities but it's only an opinion.

          1. Camp No No
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Point remains: Babel never made similar performances in Eredivisie as Depay has, and he delivered at about similar, even better rate at Liverpool, so in that sense he definitely was not a flop. Rather got just what they bought. Even if they overpaid.

            Seen that Depay is immensely better player, it's fair to pay more money for him too. He would have been in PSG had they not paid that money then.

            1. Dino
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              You're not listening/reading as usual. I never said babel was as good as Depay ffs.

              Re babel being a failure pool didn't pay that big fee for what he returned in Dutch league they paid it for his potential to improve which he didn't therefore he was a massive fail.

              1. Camp No No
                • 12 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Nope, I read your point perfectly well, but you refuse to admit that it is rubbish, to the extent that in this last reply you revert to a position of making no point whatsoever, only claiming that a player with a good reputation from a foreign league is a risk. My god, let's not hope anybody takes the risk of buying Messi, he sure has some good reputation! Better invest in the sure value and get Carroll instead!

                The point I made remains: your comparison is unfounded, it rests on _not_ knowing anything about the players, just that both come with good reputation, and not making any difference between them. I made the difference based on facts: Babel was just hype, whereas Depay has shown outstanding performances for 2 seasons in a row, with steady progress over 4 seasons now. Depay is not only much better prospect, he doesn't even have to improve from his current stats to be worth the money. If he "flops" in the same way as Babel did at Liverpool, he scores 20-30 goals per season in PL and will be worth every penny.

                1. Dino
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  Where did I compare babel to Depay?

                  I simply said babel coming for a big fee with a big rep who played in a similar position struggled and the same could happen to Depay which I went on to further state I didn't think would happen to Depay (the reason i dont think it will happen is because I think Depay is far better than babel).

                  Now get down off your high horse and admit you are a fool who has been misinterpreting everything I have posted.

                  I know you won't because you are incapable of admitting you are wrong or acknowledging that anyone else's opinion may be viable. I unlike you am happy to have my opinion questioned and happy to admit someone else's point in a discussion as can be seen from this thread alone where I have acknowledged many views and points which are polar opposite to my own

      1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Awesome! Sahko's position threatened though?

        1. Lucy.
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          This is my worry 🙁

        2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Carroll.

      2. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Wowzers indeed, bye Sakho

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Uh - no.

          1. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            This is big news if true. West ham really going for it. Impressive

          2. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            On the bench?

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Maybe.

              1. The Light Knight
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Fair enough
                BTW do you like any strikers 7.5 and below who aren't Falcao, Gomis or Sakho?

                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  Callum Wilson

                  Also, Vardy, Naismith, Ayoze, Valencia

                  1. The Light Knight
                    • 14 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    Ta, that's a start 🙂

                  2. mad_beer ✅
                    • 10 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    Compare Ulloa to Vardy and Ulloa wins. Foxes have nice starting fixtures.

                  3. meerlight
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    new city boss coming in. i've no idea how city will line up at the front this year. I am considering vardy, but this uncertainty is definitley putting me off.

                    Having said that, I've currently got sakho in my team. how convinced are you that destro will challenge carrol rather than sakho?

      3. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        What a shifty looking character 😉

        1. Jarvis
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Haha I know - Destro fell off the back of a truck

    15. pundit of punts
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      This is where I'm stuck.

      A. Benteke (AVL) + Mata/Depay

      or

      B. Rooney + Bolasie/Cabaye/Adam/Ritchie

      1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        B but if Benteke moves to Liverpool then it will be close.

    16. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      This. Hazard and Aguero take up 1/4 of our budget. The best I can think of is start with Rooney and leave money itb

      1. Defcons are for Kinnear
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Reply fail to Doolittle

      2. Syd.
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        It is probably to high risk to go without them as they are proven point scorers and one of them in all likelyhood will be the top scorer in FPL

      3. dribbler
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Hazard + Aguero takes up 60% of your budget (which is £26m)

        but because there are no worthwhile defenders or keepers at £4.0m and only Wanyama at £4.5m further forward you could think of it a different way

        the cheapest team you could have without being useless might be:

        GK £4.5m (£4.0m)
        DEF £4.5m *5
        MID £5.5m/5.5m/£5.0m/£5.0m (£4.5m)
        ATT £5.5m/£5.0/£5.0

        so if you run with my assumptions just to humour me this "minimum cost" team costs £73m and adding Ag+Haz would cost another £13.5m which is 50% of your budget on 2 players

        it's all a bit rich for me

    17. Feed tha Sheep
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Feel free to give your thoughts and opinions on my team all help appreciated

      Speroni (Butland)

      Mert Terry Cedric(Huth Francis)

      Fab Cabaye Richie Ramsey (Mutch)

      Rooney Sakho Aguero

      Cheers all

      1. FISSH
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I think Mert is a bit of a risk

        1. dribbler
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          why?

      2. Detweiler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I have Ruddy rotating with Butland - think that is better than Speroni.

        1. Feed tha Sheep
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          But are Norwich as good defensively as palace

          1. Detweiler
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            I think the rotation is more important than how good defensively they are in general. Ruddy will also benefit from the change to the BP system and save points,

            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Really? Not sure about that.

              For example I'd rather have a WBA goalie/defender away from home than some crappy defender/goalie just because they are at home

              1. Detweiler
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                First 6 though fixtures though, for exmaple.

                Butland - GW1 LIV, GW2 tot, GW3 nor, GW4 WBA, GW5 ars, GW6 LEI

                So realistically you'll want to play your other keeper GW 1, 2 and 5.

                Speroni - GW1 nor, GW2 ARS, GW5 MCI

                Ruddy - GW1 CPL, GW2 sun, GW5 BOU

                It's a tight call to be fair, but despite Norwich being weaker at the back, surely you are better going with Ruddy than Speroni?

                1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  In this specific example perhaps. But your original statement was much more general.

                  Hence the "in general" bit! 😉

                  1. Detweiler
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 15 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    Ha - I can also agree with that, Think it is a matter of personal preference.

    18. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Can I have some thoughts on Nacer Chadli, please? 🙂

      1. FISSH
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Considering him to be honest, its either him or Hendo for me!

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Interesting. Thanks. 🙂

      2. The Machine
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I like him but not his manager. Afraid he might bench him out of nowhere. Avoiding for now

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I share this view ...

      3. Defcons are for Kinnear
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Beginning to tempt me. Those with 2 of Aguero Rooney Costa will probably have him

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I only have one ...

      4. Bumbaclot
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I like him but seems to be a rotation risk

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Yep.

        2. Bambi
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          nope, spurs fan here. fourth name on the team sheet following lloris, kane and eriksen

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Are you sure? 🙂

            1. Bambi
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              looking at our attacking mid options:

              tier 1 - Eriksen, Lamela, Chadli
              Tier 2 - Townsend, Dembele (eriksen replacement at AM on rare occasion)
              tier 3 - Pritchard, Alli

              Chadli is behind only eriksen in rankings

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Excellent! Thanks, Bambi. Deed is done. 🙂

      5. Shifty
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        He's in my draft at the moment. When I compare him against the prices of Eriksen and Kane, seems abit difficult to ignore if you want a Tottenham attacker.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Indeed.

          TOT mun -248 STO 186 lei 123 EVE 230 sun 266 CPL 140 MCI -128 swa 6

          Game weeks 1 & 7 are what bothers me ...

          1. Bambi
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            utd defence will likely still be leaky. City game at home. Isn't too bad

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              OK. Ta.

      6. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Henderson is the better mid for £7m imo as he's nailed on and on set-pieces.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Not sure that I agree with this ...

          1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            How come? If we're comparing Chadli and Henderson, the former is much more of a rotation risk as we saw last season, Poch likes to bench him randomly. Henderson is the captain so there's little to no risk that he won't play.

            Set pieces is another factor though perhaps Milner's arrival will mean less responsibility for Henderson.

            You could argue that Chadli is the more attacking player based on average position and statistics but the game time is the major issue.

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Apparently not - see above.

            2. Bambi
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              he wasn't a rotation risk. He had a spell out after grieving the death of his father. Apart from that he was an ever-presence

              1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 16 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Ah - I remember, now!

              2. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                I remember now thanks!

                Having said that though, Poch does like to sub Chadli off around 60-70 mins which can be annoying.

                1. Bambi
                  • 13 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  i don't think this will be an issue at the start of the season. Maybe when europa starts

                  1. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
                    • 11 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    Europa is my main concern. Could do well in the first few weeks though

      7. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Inconsistent, loves to troll me. 🙁

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          This is my fear ...

      8. Bambi
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Shhh, he is my secret pick. Miles ahead of hendo in the tier for mid priced options in my opinion. Remember, chadli scored as many goals from open play as hazard last season 😉

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I do remember.

          1. Jarvis
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Posted by a bloke on another forum - not sure if its far fetched but worth a read at least;

            Hazard played 3300 minutes last season, and I'm going to take his minutes as a base point and apply to Chadli's 2400 minutes. I've taken his total points, goals, assists and bonus points and multiplied them with 3300/2400 to get at these results

            Chadli's performance if he played as many minutes as Hazard:
            Points - 220
            Goals - 15
            Assists - 8
            Bonus points - 27
            Probable price - 11 million (Sanchez scored 207 and is priced the same)
            Actual price - 7 million

            1. Bambi
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              I could not believe his price when he came in at 7.0. I was firmly expecting 8.0M at least, and i still would have gone with him based on his assurance of starts. it seems that FPL towers as well as the real life media still under estimate tottenham

            2. Camp No No
              • 12 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Nah.

              1) fluke conversion rate, easily happens in smaller samples.

              2) G90 rates tend to go seriously up for attacking players who come in as subs, particularly when compared to players who play whole matches who have always the lowest numbers.

              = If he played as much as Hazard, he would not keep that rate up, not even nearly.

              1. Bambi
                • 13 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                even so, if he gets 12-13 goals over the season that more than justifies his price tag in my opinion

                1. Camp No No
                  • 12 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  He won't. 6-8 more likely, supposing he gets more minutes and as a result more shots.

                  1. Camp No No
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    10 in best case scenario.

                  2. Jarvis
                    • 12 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    I still think that at 7m he is a serious option. Obviously wont be contending with Hazard for points but I think the original poster used Hazard to drive the best case scenario.

                  3. dribbler
                    • 16 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    he got 6-8 last season

        2. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Interesting...

          Would you be comfortable having him in your team if he's not assured of starts?

          1. Bambi
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            he IS assured of starts....

      9. thes7s
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Def on the watchlist, him and Downing.

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Downing probably off to Middlesborough ...

      10. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Solid smart player, fat AVB is a liability. Still undecided

        1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Right.

      11. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Crikey. Lovely! Thanks, all! 😀

        1. Bambi
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          cracking discussion this thread. If only we had more like this

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Indeed. Also changed my team. Very chuffed. 😀

      12. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Some great info lads thanks

    19. Bumbaclot
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Sorry lost in the abyss.

      Pretty happy with the balance here. Any suggestions and feedback is welcome:

      Speroni/Butland
      Merteskaer/Alderweireld/PVA/Huth/Mings
      Hazard/Walcott/Coutinho/Cabaye/Wanyama
      Rooney/Costa/Deeney

      Thankyou

      1. Detweiler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I have Ruddy rotating with Butland - think that is better than Speroni.

        1. Bumbaclot
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Thanks

    20. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Just think, with that midfield, there's no need for Rooney to drop deep as to come looking for the ball. He can just stay up top. Could we see a repeat of that season where he scored 27 league goals in 34?

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Not sure it'll be quite that much but I could see 20 goals.

      2. CostaCoffee
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Yes

      3. The Rock
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Would definitely expect 20+ goals from him this year.

      4. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Definitely, although he could do with nicking penalties back if he's gonna reach that number

        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Mata the number 1 pen taker?

          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Not sure anyone knows for certain but that is the impression i got. Hopefully we'll have an answer either way before the season kicks off

          2. Detweiler
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            I think if Rooney hits form and is high on confidence he will be on PKs

            1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Maybe, maybe not. All guesswork at the moment

              1. Detweiler
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                I would bet good money that they share PK duties during pre-season!

                1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  lol that would be typical! 🙂

          3. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            he's also prone to missing pens. Expect Rooney to be no.1 taker sooner or later

      5. Somalion
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I think I'll start with him, sharpness would be my only concern but I agree with what you're saying. Another factor is if they aren't going after a striker Rooney will be the main man.

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          yeah. will be interesting to see who you bring in.Rooney's pre season form will be a very good indicator

          1. Somalion
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Aye, if all goes to plan I think he'll be a strong pick.

      6. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Hey IE! Your avatars always crack me up 😆

        Rooney definitely looks like a great option now, unless they sign a big-name striker.

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          😉 cheers. exactly. Hope they don't as i'm all set on Rooney

      7. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I'd expect 20 minimum.

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          with that midfield and attacking threat, your boys will score so many goals.

      8. Dino
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        His two seasons up top he got 26 goals and 27 goals.

        Think he was taking pens then too though*

    21. Adams6
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Anyone putting their squads into RMT? What sort of numbers are you getting for the six week prediction?

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Think my initial squad got 310 or something similar

          1. Adams6
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Thank you!
            Looks like my paltry 299.32 needs some adjustment!

      2. Wirtzle Gummidge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        312.76

      3. Waterwheel Inc.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I think RMT is interesting, especially mid-season, when I don't mind referring to it to decide on transfers. But I avoid using it to select my initial squad. I tried to pick an "optimal" squad, and got up to something in the 330s, then put in my actual squad and was around the 310 mark. Basically it massively penalises you for taking any risks, and I like to have at least a couple in there at the start of the season.

    22. Detweiler
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Think I've finally got to a first draft I'm relatively happy with, at the moment:

      Butland/Ruddy
      Azpi/Kos/O'Shea/Francis/Morgan
      Hazard/Depay/Henderson/Ritchie/Sinclair
      Aguero/Lukaku/Sakho

      What do we think for a first go at it?

      1. Wirtzle Gummidge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Needs Arsenal attack.

    23. andy85wsm
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Knocked this up fairly quickly but I guess it would be something like this to afford Rooney, Aguero and Hazard:

      http://imgur.com/jbilZE1

      1. Detweiler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Not a bad team at all for knocking it up quickly!

        1. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I have a feeling that Sakho won't be in my team come GW1 so need to have a proper look at the cheaper strikers as I know little about them. It's not the worst team but I dislike the midfield.

          1. Detweiler
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Agreed, especially with the Destro rumours. I think Wilson at B'mouth might be worth a punt, but then not sure I want both him and Ritchie in my team. Albrighton could be a good option but all depends on the new Leicester manager and how the side sets up in pre-season. If O'Neill takes over, Albrighton swinging in crosses and set-pieces could be gold.

            1. skeanos
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Not sure its ritchie you want to be replacing. That man will be FPL gold.

              1. Detweiler
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                I thought the same with Danny Drinkwater last year though...

      2. Jaffalicious! #SomosCubanos
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Hey Andy!

        That is pretty similar to what I've come up with. However, downgrading Cedric and Sahko to a 4.5 and Deeney will allow you to get Ivan 🙂

    24. daisybcfc
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Apologies for multiple posts but anyone here finish in the top 100 last year that wouldn't mind do a super quick email interview for a magazine for me? Thanks in advance

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I'll get back to you this time next year 😉

        1. daisybcfc
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I'll keep you to that if you make it!

      2. CostaCoffee
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Id do it but i was 100000

    25. Eden Hazardous
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      RMT out of 10 please

      Ruddy Butland
      Azpi Merte Morgan O'Shea Francis
      Hazard Rambo Mata Ritchie Wanyama
      Rooney Costa Deeney

      1. The Rock
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        9/10

        Not convinced about Ritchie tbh.

        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          What do u suggest then...??

    26. wachu
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      it's just theory, but what do you think about option to have 4 heavy hitters (captain options), 2 (mid-price) set piece takers, rotate defenders + rest like this:

      schmeichel-4,0
      Mert - Cedric - Coates - Francis - Burke
      Haz - Cabaye-Ritchie-Sinclar-Flecher
      Aguer-Costa-Rooney

      RMT says 256 points in first 6GWs (i don't know if its include captaion choses?) 🙂

      1. paul1964
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        looks good

        1. wachu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          yeah, It doesn't look terible, but it won't be my team.

    27. paul1964
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      a silly question maybe but who is Rambo?

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Aaron Ramsey.

        1. paul1964
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          really?

          1. andy85wsm
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Yup

      2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Ramsey 🙂

      3. The Rock
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Ramsey

      4. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Sylvester Stallone

    28. The Rock
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Utd's formation could be tricky to predict this season, those picking Mata could be left disappointed as he may be benched some games.

      Schwein, Schneid, Herrera
      ADM Depay
      Rooney

      He will play the majority of games but it wouldn't surprise me as i can see a fair bit of rotation.

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        If Di Maria goes then Mata looks a better prospect.

        Could be one of the midfield 3 to miss out too with Di Maria on the left of a back 3 in a 4-3-3

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          with Darmian and 2 of Herrera/ Carrick/Schwein, Schneid, etc , Mata can spend more time doing what he does best, score and create goals

          1. andy85wsm
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Hopefully.

        2. The Rock
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Yeah that's another possibility, just a lot of options Utd have.

          Could well be another attaching signing from Utd yet, if they sign someone like Cavani then that could push Rooney back, maybe affecting Mata also.

          1. andy85wsm
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Do you think signing a striker and moving Rooney back is the answer? Just means we will have Rooney playing oop again with someone in their rightful position missing out.

            Think the ideal answer is someone decent as backup for Rooney but that's a tough ask

            1. The Rock
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Nope i don't think it;s the answer, i'd love to see Rooney up front this year, a decent back up would be nice but if not i'd put my trust in Wilson and Hernandez if he's still there. If things go really bad injury wise we could still play Fellaini up front!

              But they Way Utd are splashing the cash i wouldn't be surprised to see someone like Cavani come in,

    29. Del Monte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Sky Sports News HQ ‏@SkySportsNewsHQ 1m1 minute ago
      BREAKING NEWS: Sky Sources - #MUFC have agreed a fee with Valencia CF for the transfer of Nicolás Otamendi #SSNHQ

      1. Lucy.
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Now that would put them in the title race...

      2. Demí
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        can't see it?

        1. andy85wsm
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Me neither, think this might be fake.

      3. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        ?

      4. Del Monte
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Hmm and it's now been deleted, what are Sky up to?

      5. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        This is escalating worryingly quickly, next we'll be announcing Fergie's back

      6. BRONALDINHO
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        now if he only comes at 5.5 rather than 6

      7. Detweiler
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Wow - Darmian, Otamendi, Rojo, Shaw, as a back four?

        1. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Smalling over Rojo.

          1. Detweiler
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Or Smalling CB and Rojo LB?

            1. Business Dog
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              More likely imo

      8. The Rock
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        We need a top CB, please let it be true!

      9. Doolittle
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Blimey, where's Woodward suddenly pulling all of this from!? What a comeback from the last couple of years!

        1. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Got to agree. The man deserves some credit this window even if he cost Moyes his job while trying to learn the job in the first place

    30. internal error
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      If Utd are about to confirm Otamendi, then god damn!!! This reminds me of that scene in breaking bad, when Walter white has several people killed at one time in prison in various locations. Woodward is Heisenberg

      1. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        You're god damn right!

        1. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Woodward is the one that knocks!!

          1. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            He'll send you to Belize!

            1. Lateriser 12
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Love how he's handling Madrid. Needed someone to stick it to them.

              1. The Light Knight
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Yep, make them pay up or shut up

        1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          +1

          Immediately thought of this 🙂

        2. internal error
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          that too 😉

      2. thes7s
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Real Madrid would offer Ramos +40 m just to get Woodward 😀

      3. Birds of Prey
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        MU are gonna be a great clash of money, Darwinism, and playing time. I so welcome the fallout from the glut.

        that BB was a top 10 ... then Bill Burr is laying on that million $ stack in the storage unit and points out to Huell; "the guy hit 10 guys in federal prison, I'm just sayin'". or something like that.

    31. Defcons are for Kinnear
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 4 months ago

      Those planning to start with Rooney and leaving money itb for Aguero, what if Rooney goes crazy and rises over 11m?

      1. Eden Hazardous
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Then I will downgrade Mata and upgade Costa to Aguero

      2. Wirtzle Gummidge
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Then keep Rooney.

        GW2, Aguero will pull a hammy anyway.

      3. Forza
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        That's the problem at the moment, Lukaku to Aguero is 5m!

        1. Defcons are for Kinnear
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I might save 2.5m and then downgrade a 8.5 mid if Kun makes it to GW4

      4. Jay_
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Then you will make 0.1 profit, the problem is if Aguero goes crazy early, I don't think it's worth leaving money itb might as well just save 2ft for gw4 and downgrade a mid for gw4 because United first 3 way better fixtures than City anyway, if that don't work out just wc

      5. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Wooody you son of a gun.

      6. Feed tha Sheep
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Better to start with
        Silva and costa or Aguero and fab??

      7. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Ironic Foundry 1965 has evolved! 🙂

        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Into? 🙂

          1. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Charizard?

      8. internal error
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        This is class from Walter White

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLEfrulUEcs

        1. The Light Knight
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Class is probably the wrong word, but that's a moment Albuquerque guy will treasure 😀

        2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Ha!

          Bryan Cranston seems like such a cool guy

          1. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            He's still Hal to me 😉

          2. internal error
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            he does. Loved him since Malcolm in the Middle.

      9. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Anyone else miss the days when United's midfield was Scholes, Carrick and some sticky tape to keep it together?

        1. Kings of Lyon ★
          • 15 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          I miss the days of Giggs Scholes Keane Yorke and Cole

      10. Hedgehog
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        RMT please anyone

        Myhill (Hamer)
        Mertesacker, Alderweireld, Janmaat, Morgan, O'Shea
        Fabregas, Henderson, Ozil, Silva, Redmond
        Rooney, Costa, Deeney

      11. Bambi
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        i have only seen a couple of teams with danny rose in there, including my own. I understand he is .5 cheaper than toby but i feel for that .5 extra you get a lot of bang. 3 goals, 5 assists in 2400 mins, a better ratio than Ivanovic. Rose improved immensely last season, and i only see him improving. He also has one of the highest clearance success rate and interceptions of any full back in the league, so will likely benefit a lot from the new CBI bonus system. Just one for thought.

        1. GoonerByron
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          For the price of Rose, you can have Mertesacker, Skrtel, Clyne, Cresswell, Fonte, Jagielka and there are countless better options even at 5.0 imo.. Rose isn't even an option for me until Tottenham can prove they can keep clean sheets.

          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            And why would you want any of those ahead of Rose? 🙂

            1. Bambi
              • 13 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              exactly!

            2. GoonerByron
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Because of what I said, Spurs (Based on last season) are not a reliable source of clean sheets, which is always where the majority of your defenders points are going to come from. All of the above can keep clean sheets as well as have the chance of attacking points.

        2. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Firmly in my sights. Danny Rose screams fantasy player to me

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Me too. But, I fear Pochettino ...

          2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Also, CBs now have a slight advantage. Although Danny compensates with his take-ons.

        3. Bambi
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          sorry, meant to say .5 more expensive, not cheaper

        4. The Rock
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          He's in my team anyway.

        5. 1892
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Spurs have trolled me for many a year, I'm staying well clear this year plus they have a rotation obsessed manager, don't be suprised to see him randomly benched

        6. Dino
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Spurs defence was rubbish last season

          1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            True. But can it be as bad again?

            1. Dino
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 4 months ago

              Yes imo.

              The failure of the defence is a systemic one imo. They don't have a central midfield (like poch had at saints) and they don't have the same energy to press from the front either. Arguably their defenders are better than what poch had at saints but unless they come up with a better game plan to either play possession football or buy new players to hold midfield and press from the front I don't see anything changing.

              They have gone backwards since avb left imo.

              1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                • 16 Years
                10 years, 4 months ago

                Bentaleb is gonna be immense 😉

                1. Dino
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 4 months ago

                  Lol good one.

                  Great passer technique and athelticism but he doesn't seem to have tactical appreciation whatsoever.

                  1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
                    • 16 Years
                    10 years, 4 months ago

                    lol good one?

                    He's a teenager still isn't he? That will develop and improve as he plays. Personally i think he's gonna be a superb player

                    1. Dino
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 16 Years
                      10 years, 4 months ago

                      Yeah I think he could be a great player in a few years time but in the meantime spurs have to suffer with a non existent midfield. Schneiderlin was playing in league 2 at bentaleb age and was able to be afforded time to learn his trade before adapting to the epl.

                      As per above I won't be going near spurs defence unless something systemic changes

      12. Zebrahimović
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        I've now come to this line up - in an ideal world where Aguero is match fit i'd free up a bit of money from the midfield to have him but here is the current draft:

        Pantilimon

        O'Shea / Mertesacker / Azpilicueta

        Cabaye / Ramsey / Hazard / Mata

        Costa / Wilson / Rooney

        Bench:
        Hamer /Morgan /Baker / Wanyama

        Out of 10? See any obvious tweaks?

        1. Eden Hazardous
          • 10 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          5.5
          Defence and midfiels is very weak

      13. Heydudes13
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        Destro in talks with West Ham, wonder how that'll affect Sakho

        1. Jarvis
          • 12 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          More so Carroll I'd say!

      14. The Light Knight
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 4 months ago

        My GW1 starting eleven is made of 3 Chelsea, 3 Arsenal, 3 Citeh and 2 Everton 😯

        1. Jax
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 4 months ago

          Everton have tough fixtures after the first game

          1. The Light Knight
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 4 months ago

            Yeah, plan to lose 1 for GW2