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Regular readers will know I regularly stress the importance of correct team structure, in particular a very cheap fifth midfielder. Indeed, to the bemusement of many I went through the second half of the season with Liverpool’s much maligned midfielder Lucas Leiva (4.2) in my team. But could now be the time to break the cheap, fifth midfielder template?

FIXTURES

Fixtures for the start of the season are rather unusual; generally this season it is the poorer teams that have all the best fixtures early on. While the likes of Liverpool have a combination of very difficult games interspersed with some easy ones. My normal strategy of picking the same four premium midfielders from good clubs, each week, suddenly doesn’t look so great as they will be forced to play in very tough away games early on.

This season there could be a better way. Spend a little extra on a fifth midfielder, from one of the lower clubs and use them for their good early fixtures, allowing the other more expensive midfielders to be benched when on a tough fixture. Naturally, someone like Eden Hazard would never be benched, but third or fourth midfielders such as Liverpool’s Jordan Henderson or James Milner could be.

WILDCARD CHANGES

The initial Wildcard now has to be used in the first half of the season, so I am now even more likely to be using it early on, quite possibly during the first international break after Gameweek 4 and maybe even earlier. That being the case, team structure can be adjusted then, once we know who the best minimum-priced midfielders are. There may be no rush to start this season with a 4.5 midfielder.

ALL-OUT-ATTACK CHIP

Arguably the weakest of the new one-off boosters introduced in FPL is the all out attack chip, which allows Fantasy managers to select a 2-5-3 formation for one week only. Perhaps the start of the season, when cheap midfielders have good fixtures, could be an ideal time to use this. But once I bring in this season’s version of Lucas it will be too late to make the most of it.

GENEROUS TRANSFER BUDGET

This season it seems the game has been fairly generous to us; it is fairly easy to pick a decent team early on, without the need for too much penny-pinching.  Spending an extra million on the fifth midfielder could well be a luxury we can now afford, at least until the first Wildcard. Also this season there are no stand-out 4.5 options in midfield, who are capable of bringing in the sort of returns that last season’s cheap budget midfield hero, Burnley’s George Boyd, managed.

CONCLUSION

At this stage I am keeping an open mind and ruling nothing out. It is too early to fix plans just yet. Pre-season injuries and player form could yet open up opportunities for a decent 4.5 midfielder to step forward. Meanwhile, heavy-hitter transfers in could put more strains on the budget, making a 4.5 mid more appealing.

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  1. J0E
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    • 16 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    I'm sticking with Wanyama for now as my fifth mid....but when hopefully my budget is bulging post Christmas I'll certainly be looking to draft in a better fifth pick to take advantage of the 'all out attack' chip.

    1. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Wanyama is a huge risk imho. Which 4.5m are all the casuals going to pick - him. Can see him blanking first few then dropping value early,

      1. Nabs Kebabs
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        The casuals will mass trade him out basically

        1. Konig Luther
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          good point.. so the best is keep Wanyama until last day, (casuals will look and see him with the highest %) and then, change him for another 4.5mid

          1. Birds of Prey
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            no they'll look at the most pts. for a 4.5 with his name at the top. are there any nailed 4.5's from promoted sides? thx

          2. FPLzebub
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Isn't high ownership a defence against a player's value dropping though? If lots of people own him a lot will have to sell him for his value to drop. A 5th midfielder (or defender) is hardly going to be a priority transfer even for casuals. If you pick someone with really low ownership it may only take a few dozen people to sell them to lose value.

            Only my 2nd season so please correct me if i'm wrong about this.

            1. Jøssy ⭐
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              I don't know the actual calculation, but I've always found players with high ownership can plummet in value very easily.

        2. J0E
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          • 16 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Actually that's a really good point. his role is essentially to hold value and allow me to get other better players, while offering assured starts. Hadn't considered his huge ownership (18%). I may be better off with Fletcher on just 1%.

          I quite like getting a good 4.5m that you can play as well. Happens rarely and they don't reveal themselves at first but I have fond memories of profiting points and money wise from Januzaj and Sterling in seasons past.

          1. Nabs Kebabs
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            exactly, you don't want to be losing value on a guy sitting on your bench. I have Fletcher atm but still waiting/hoping for a better option to arise. Your Sterling's and Januzaj's are gold becuase they rise very rapidly so if you can pick them early you can cash in at some point with a tidy profit.

            1. FPL P0ker PlAyer
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              Which begs the question as to what changes if any FPL will make to their price changes formula this year? Personally, I found last year's formula rendered this debate almost null and void as there was hardly any advantage to be had at all from anticipating bandwagons. It was actually quite rare last season for a player to rise by 0.3 in 1 gameweek...

            2. J0E
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              • 16 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              Indeed. Sterling went up to 5.5m I sold him at that point. He made me 0.5m in a month. Sensational and rare.

            3. OShaughnessy
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              • 13 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              > exactly, you don't want to be losing value on a guy sitting on your bench.

              Meh, what's the worst that'll happen?
              We lose .1mil .2mil tops?
              And, with the slow moving price structure the latter is much less worrisome.

              Overall, Wanyama & Boyd were an exception to the rule last year.
              A perfect storm.
              The fact they scored at all, let alone on weeks that certain heavy hitters were out was remarkable.

              Typically, the best we hope for from our 5th mid is them not getting a RC.
              (Yes, I'm looking at you Cheick!)

              In the end, unless we go 352, idk if there's any reason to truly worry about who our 5th mid is... Well, until the next Sterling or Januzaj pops up.

              1. Ruth_NZ
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 6 months ago

                That's not what he meant. He's referring to how much budget you have benched.

                1. Ruth_NZ
                  • 11 Years
                  10 years, 6 months ago

                  Oops. Maybe it is what he meant. 😕

                  1. OShaughnessy
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                    • 13 Years
                    10 years, 6 months ago

                    Quick on the Draw, like a Horse named McGraw!
                    😉

                2. OShaughnessy
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                  • 13 Years
                  10 years, 6 months ago

                  Here is what FG said:

                  > Wanyama is a huge risk imho. Which 4.5m are all the casuals going to pick - him. Can see him blanking first few then dropping value early,

                  > The casuals will mass trade him out basically

                  > Your Sterling's and Januzaj's are gold becuase they rise very rapidly so if you can pick them early you can cash in at some point with a tidy profit.

                  If he ain't talking about TV (Team Value) then what is he talking about Ruth?

                  1. J0E
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                    • 16 Years
                    10 years, 6 months ago

                    Its both. Team Value is important...you don't want to lose value on any players really at the start of the season. the first half of the season is about building team value - although admittedly this was trickier last season due to slower price rises.

                    It is also about budget on the bench. I want to use as much of my budget as possible on getting top quality players. As a result that extra 1m by getting a 5.5m fifth mid is precious money.

                    Another reason is personal to me. I like having the limited choice of a fifth midfielder...too often when I had a more expensive fifth mid (yes Puncheon I'm looking at you) I ended up benching the points. Rotation amongst attackers rarely works well.

                    The problem with 3-5-2 at the beginning is that you are benching a striker that is going to cost in excess of 4.5 or will never play or will lose value if in a sizeable number of teams. I prefer my fodder cheap.

                    1. OShaughnessy
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                      • 13 Years
                      10 years, 6 months ago

                      Jonty...

                      Mate, that was a reply to @RuthNZ who'd misunderstood what I had said.

                      See my post below but, I cannot agree more with everything you've said here.

                      All I expect from my 5th mid is 90mins & 2pts.
                      Anything else is gravy!

                      Pounds on the Pitch = Points!

                      1. J0E
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                        • 16 Years
                        10 years, 6 months ago

                        Ah I see. Sounds like we are on the same wave length when it comes to our budget fodder.

                      2. OShaughnessy
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                        • 13 Years
                        10 years, 6 months ago

                        110%

                    2. dribbler
                      • 16 Years
                      10 years, 6 months ago

                      @Jonty..."the first half of the season is about building team value"

                      I disagree...I say it's a reasonable strategy but it's a long way from being compulsory...(last year my maximum team value was £104.0m)

                      extra team value certainly translates into points but to get this high team value you need to use up transfers...and transfers are also very valuable

              2. Jøssy ⭐
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 6 months ago

                0.1 may as well be 0.5 at the start of the season. Pushes any transfer budget down to the next tier of player.

                1. OShaughnessy
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  10 years, 6 months ago

                  @Lambernut

                  1. TV is only ever impacted (+ / -) when we actually sell a player.

                  2. WC's don't impact Price Changes.

                  So, idk how often you're sitting around during the first couple months & have the luxury to say to yourself:

                  "Hey, you know what? I don't have any players I'd like to use a FT on this week. And, I also don't want to save it, so let's replace my 5th mid instead!"

                  This idea comes up every year:
                  "Look out for a high ownership 5th mid because if he does poorly *everyone* is going to transfer him out & you'll wind up losing TV!"

                  And, every year it's 99.99% a non-issue... because, most people are too focused on making transfers that actually matter to their teams rather than using their only FT of the week on replacing their 5th mid.

                  1. Jøssy ⭐
                    • 11 Years
                    10 years, 6 months ago

                    Ok, fair enough... Good analysis

                    I suppose the basis of this comment, is described in more detail by my question at the bottom of this thread, as I often try to build a flexible 343 / 352 team with a cheap(ish) 5th MF and cheap(ish) FW.

                    I think if I was invested in keeping the 5th MF spot as a placeholder almost, I'd be equally uninterested by a small price drop in that position.

                    Would you mind reading that point and offering your opinion?

                    1. OShaughnessy
                      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                      • 13 Years
                      10 years, 6 months ago

                      Replied below.

          2. Bibelnissen
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            • 11 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Didn't Fletcher take a few share of corners last season as well?

            Going with him and hoping someone else emerges during PS.

        3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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          • 16 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Ouch! 🙁

          Had not noticed that ...

          1. Nabs Kebabs
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Hmm Doos, not sure what you mean? What exactly did you not notice?

            1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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              • 16 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              His ownership soaring into the stratosphere. Had him since day one ...

              1. Nabs Kebabs
                • 14 Years
                10 years, 6 months ago

                ah yes, tbh i didn't even look at his ownership before posting this. We also need to keep in mind most casuals will make their team closer to the start of the season and probably pick him - it's probably going to rise even more. I'm staying well away.

                1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 16 Years
                  10 years, 6 months ago

                  352 beckons ever more strongly ...

                  1. Nabs Kebabs
                    • 14 Years
                    10 years, 6 months ago

                    Very good point actually, also no standout budget 3rd fwd atm assuming your lot are signing another striker. Food for thought.

                    1. Jøssy ⭐
                      • 11 Years
                      10 years, 6 months ago

                      Are they!?

                  2. Boris Bodega
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                    • 10 Years
                    10 years, 6 months ago

                    I rarely used 352 last season, but every time I did I got bitten on the arse. The biggest bite was benching Kane against Chelsea.

                    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGenius…
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                      • 16 Years
                      10 years, 6 months ago

                      Worked OK for me ...

                      1. Boris Bodega
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                        • 10 Years
                        10 years, 6 months ago

                        That's my problem, the scars are still smarting and it makes me wary of doing it again - so hard to keep an open mind.

                    2. Nabs Kebabs
                      • 14 Years
                      10 years, 6 months ago

                      Kane was scoring like a 10m fwd not a 5.5mil fwd so i was always a bit surprised when people benched him

        4. dribbler
          • 16 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          "The casuals will mass trade him out basically"

          sorry nabs but I disagree...the casuals will have bigger fish to fry...casuals will be selling Kane or Costa or Rooney and buying whoever scored points in the first week...I've looked at this in previous seasons...if Wanyama doesn't score points he will be sold of course but it'll only be a slow trickle unless there's a genuinely hot player costing £4.5m-£5.0m...and don't forget that last season wildcard sales and purchases didn't affect price changes

          somebody heavily owned like Wanyama might get a £0.1m price drop after 6-10 weeks but that's all you need to worry about

          1. J0E
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            • 16 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Remember though there will be more early wildcards this year.

            1. dribbler
              • 16 Years
              10 years, 6 months ago

              but don't wildcard transfers get excluded from price calculations?...I thought that was what people were saying last year?...please say if I'm wrong

          2. RedLightning
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            • 15 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            I agree, Dribbler.

            The casuals will only transfer out their cheap 5th mid if he misses a match or gets injured or suspended. Otherwise he is likely to retain his value for some time.

            Best to ignore ownership and just get the 4.5m mid who is most nailed on and likely to score the most points.

            It's different with non-playing options who scored a few points last season - such players may well be transferred out early by the casuals when they realise they aren't going to play.

        5. Sharkytect
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          This is the only thing holding me back from getting him. Ideally, I want a nailed on 4.5 mid from maybe one of the promoted teams. Someone with low percentage selection. They don't even need to get loads of points, I just don;t want to be wasting early transfers getting rid of Wanyama because his price is about to drop

      2. SW6
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        I'm currently on Westwood as my 4.5

        1. Ziegler1988
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          As was I, but Gueye might take some of his starts. Fletcher is captain and nailed

    2. walkman666
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Borrowing from a similar fantasy game from The Sporting News (I do not believe these games are around anymore though...a shame), is a feature called, "gravity." Rarely owned players' prices slowly decline over time due to little ownership. This adds another element of strategy into owning a cheapie as a placeholder, or in making a lowly owned player more attractive over time. Just another twist. Adding this feature to more price volatility and the ability to carry over infinite #s of unused transfers, would IMHO, add more strategy and create greater roster differentiation. Two cents.

  2. Konig Luther
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    A cheap mid for now... when i have more money i will bring a decent 5th mid. (only will play the allout attack chip) in the 2nd part of season

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      what is cheap? 4.5 5.0 5.5?

  3. HNI
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Guys out of Leicester defence, Under the rotation loving manager,is Schmeichel the most nailed starter in defense?

    1. Birds of Prey
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      morgan played 3000+ last season

    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Morgan is captain

  4. pompeyfan
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    I miss Shane Ferguson @ 4m.

    I'll be going for Fletcher or Westwood most likely.

    1. Nabs Kebabs
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      3.9m fergie was the go

    2. RedLightning
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      • 15 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Someone used to put him in their starting eleven every week in order to confuse their mini-league rivals, in the confident expectation that he would always be auto-subbed.....then one week he came on for a one point cameo!

      1. Ten Season Wonder
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        that is funny

  5. FPL P0ker PlAyer
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Amongst the significant changes made to FPL this year, does anybody know whether FPL have tweaked their price changes formula this year? Personally, I found there was hardly any advantage to be had at all from anticipating bandwagons last season as fluctuations in prices happened at so slowly and steadily compared to the volatility of previous seasons. It was actually quite rare last season for a player to rise by 0.3 in 1 gameweek...

    1. dribbler
      • 16 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      no we don't know...the price formula is always secret

  6. Sverdet
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Is Huth nailed? More tempted by 2.9% ownership than morgan's 19.2%

  7. dribbler
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    for me I'm really struggling to spend more than £4.5m on my 5th midfielder and I'm going to try to prove why

    a good way to pick your team at the start of the season is to use what an accountant would call zero-based budgeting...in FPL terms this is an accounting exercise to find out which players give you best value for money

    so pick the best 15 decent cheap players according to the RMT and note down your expected points total over a sensible number of weeks...(if you're definitely wildcarding early then choose a small time period)...at this stage put at least one £4.5m midfielder into your team and leave him there until near the end of this exercise

    so your keepers should cost £8.5m, your defenders £22.5m and so on with lots of cheap players

    now since a captain gets double points he's effectively half price...so pick a superstar with high ppg (points-per-game) and kick out the player with the lowest ppg in his position...this superstar will give you good value...calculate the extra points you get and divide by the extra cash he is costing you...specifically you want to calculate the points per £0.5m...so if he gets you 60 extra points over 6 weeks and he costs you an extra £6.0m you divide 60/12 to find out that he gives you 5 points for every £0.5m you're spending on him...you should find out that this figure of 5 points/£0.5m (say) is good value compared to the other players you'll be adding into your team shortly...this way I'm predicting that you'll be able to prove what most people already assume, that having at least one superstar in your team so you can captain him is well worth the money

    you should have lots of money left over

    now start looking at other highly-rated players, starting with players slightly more expensive than those you've got just now...so look through all the £5.0m defenders before you look at the £5.5m defenders etc...temporarily stick them in your team and see how many points you get...calculate the points per £0.5m for these players...(I mean the extra points you get divided by the extra cost you are spending by putting that player in)

    now I'll gamble by predicting that at this stage you'll gain more per £0.5m from adding attackers than you will by adding defenders...(get your money up front)

    start adding the best players you find into your team...by building up your team this way you make sure you don't miss any bargains...let me go out on a limb and say that if you're looking over 7 weeks you'll put Chadli into your team and never remove him

    now get to a team value of £98-£99m while you've still got a £4.5m midfielder in your team...remember you should have done your best to get the team that gives you the most points according to the RMT and not the team that you actually like yourself

    Triggerlips is suggesting that it MIGHT be an idea to spend some or all of this last £2.0m (say) on your cheap midfielder...I'm not a member so I can't check but I bet you that you'll get lower points per £0.5m by spending on this cheap midfielder than you will by spending the money elsewhere...and that's because you're putting money on the bench each week so the points you gain from spending more on this cheap midfielder have to be set against the points you lose from benching another attacking player as well as the points you lose by not spending on another player who'll actually be on the pitch

    and if it turns out that I'm wrong and Triggerlips' "hunch" is correct, well you're the person who'll have worked it out for yourself and you can laugh at me...(or maybe Triggerlips has already done the maths and he's dropping hints without laying it on a plate for us?)

    1. tm245
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Nice post. Am working on an article looking at points per game and value and have used 0.5m changes as one of the measures.

      1. dribbler
        • 16 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        thanks

        "Am working on an article looking at...value"...in that case you should look at my reply to the next community article by Kompany Man

        1. tm245
          • 14 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          Completely agree. Starting with a baseline and then examining how each increase in 0.5m impacts value. The VORP conversation from summers past, which comes from baseball here in the U.S., is the way I am approaching it.

          1. dribbler
            • 16 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            ahh yes I remember reading about VORP years ago...please could you remind me more precisely what the theory is

  8. JK - Cønt ⭐
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Interesting read Trigger and this was something I discussed on here a few weeks back

    some people went for it others thought like Jonty that the all-out-attack chip could be saved for later in the season when we have a bigger budget to get a better 5th mid than the likes of Wanyama and Fletcher

  9. OShaughnessy
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    • 13 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Trigger sir, one concern I have about this approach though...

    A 352 requires us to bench our 3rd striker most weeks.
    And, a playing 3rd strikers typically costs ₤5.5mil.

    As a result, we're benching ₤1mil more than we normally would each week.
    Perhaps more if we choose to play our 3rd striker ahead of our more expensive 5th mid.

    I understand that we don't choose players in a vacuum or in pairs but, Pounds = Points & having too many of them on our bench every week could be problematic. Yes?

    PS. I do understand you're not touting this strat as gospel!
    Just like to hear your thoughts on this viewpoint.

  10. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Even spending more on a 5th mid probably won't prevent them getting 2pts when you play the all out chip. Best off getting a 4.5 from a good defensive team and hope for 3pts imo.

  11. RubeRx
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    3-5-2

  12. st4rt__
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    I've a question.

    Are people going all out with their transfer kitty with the idea of WC'ing at the first international break or saving £2m/£3m, or more for likes of Aguero/Alexis rather than WC?

    1. Lanley Staurel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      The former.

  13. Lanley Staurel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    I completely agree with 100% of what you have written Trigger.

    Yea there you go I've said it.

  14. Sharkytect
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Very convincing case for getting a better fifth midfielder in. But once you've built a team with a 4.5 mid in, it's so hard to lose those big names from your team to get a 6.0 mid in instead...

  15. Ryan
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    • 14 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    I fully agree with this approach Trigger. However I will eventually get a budget mid when an obvious bandwagon reveals themselves. I still have fond memories of cashing in on the likes of Barkley and Sterling when they were budget assets. Did a lot for my TV

  16. Jøssy ⭐
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 6 months ago

    Who on here can profess to really genuinely always perform near the very top of the overall league? Of you guys, are we absolutely convinced by this 4.5M midfielder approach?

    I resist every year, because in my mind the ability to rotate a front 8 is more valuable than having a more expensive from 7 with no flexibility.

    I always do pretty well in my mini-league, but I am hampering my chances of hitting the top 10,000 overall on a consistent basis? Do any of you (consistent top performers please) believe it's a must-embrace strategy? I'm curious

    ** I did land 1913th the year before last, but was just outside the top 100,000 last year

    1. Jøssy ⭐
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      *front 7

    2. OShaughnessy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 6 months ago

      Heya Lamb,

      I hate rotating my 5th mid & 3rd Fwd & here's why:

      1. Benching a 3rd Fwd or 5th mid means choosing to have at least 5.5mil on our bench.
      So, we're already losing in the Points = Pounds race every week.

      2. I know a guy like Ki was great value last year with 8 goals at 5.5mil.
      Problem is, 2 of those goals came v. Utd & another away to Spurs.
      So, good luck predicting when that'll happen.
      I mean, just check the GW1 'Anytime Goalscorer' odds for the two players you're hoping to rotate & compare those to who you might have as your everyday 3rd Fwd / 5th Mid.

      3. 5.5mil defenders return better value & are far easier to rotate.
      Look at how many 5.5mil defenders outscored Ki last season.
      Now, compare the 5.5mil mids to 5.5mil def overall.
      Pretty compelling case to play a 433 instead of a rotating 343 / 352.

      1. Jøssy ⭐
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 6 months ago

        Excellent points, well made O'Shaughnessy! I'm on board. Gonna go with it this year and see how I go!

        This approach allows me to have an Aguero-purchase strategy too, without too much upheaval or downgrading.

        Thanks for taking the time mate. Good luck for the season!

        1. OShaughnessy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 6 months ago

          NP.
          Just make sure your 5th mid is 90mins nailed.
          Maybe a Fletcher or Coquelin type bc they could get us a few CS pts?

          And, overall (3 out of 5 times?) I think we'd choose to place our 4th defender as 1st sub.
          Again, much easier to spot a potential CS than it is a Ki goal.:)

          1. Jøssy ⭐
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 6 months ago

            Done! Already opted for Fletcher, and I'll see if any nice little bargains pop up as the season unfolds. 🙂

            Particularly hits home your point about predicting a Ki goal, because my approach does often leave me applauding myself (through gritted teeth) for how many points my bench players have scored (and led to me resting Kane against Chelsea, when he subsequently tore them to pieces).