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4 August 2015 5434 comments
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With a busy summer of pre-season friendlies behind us, Fantasy managers have been given plenty of hints on potential formations and starting XIs for Gameweek 1.

Manchester United’s summer schedule has afforded a fair indication as to where Memphis Depay and Wayne Rooney will be deployed. There’s also form to consider, with Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling demonstrating plenty of pace and menace over the summer, while Christian Benteke signalled his intent with a debut strike for Liverpool ahead of their opener with Stoke.

With all this in mind, we ask the “Burning Question”: how much stock should we put in pre-season?

Simon March (FPL winner 2014/15) says…
Pre-season is a better indicator of some things than others. For example, it can offer guidance on a manager’s favoured line-ups and formations, which, as we get closer to the season start, tend to become less experimental and a more reliable view of how that team will actually play. Of course, there are several potential agitators to even this information, such as the player fatigue that follows international tournaments or the open transfer window. These need to be taken into account when judging the reliability of what we see in pre-season.

It’s also worth bearing in mind that not all pre-season matches are created equal. There’s a big difference between exhibition clashes on a tour and more competitive matches such as the Europa League qualifiers or the Community Shield. The latter type of fixture is, we would assume, a manifestation of what a manager perceives to be his best available XI, playing in their best formation and, therefore, should be better indicators of what to expect going forwards.

The reliability of pre-season performances as a barometer of player form is even more difficult to assess. This is partly because of the fleeting nature of form itself but, also, because a player’s performances cannot be viewed in isolation. For example, Raheem Sterling scoring a brace in a recent friendly sounds encouraging, until you see that the opposition was the Vietnam XI. There’s a danger that we only look at part of the information and become subject to that old enemy of Fantasy managers; confirmation bias. Again, the quality of the opposition and the competitiveness of the fixture are key considerations.

Given the apparent unreliability of much of what it demonstrates, it’s tempting to write-off pre-season form altogether but I don’t think it is always entirely misleading. Where it seems to fail us most is when it comes to ‘bargain-hunting’ (I’m looking at you Mauro Boselli and Danny Graham) but, even during the main season, it is the form of budget players that tends to be the most transient. Where I think pre-season displays can be somewhat more indicative is when it’s being demonstrated by a previously proven FPL performer, preferably against solid opposition. Last season, for example, Aaron Ramsey followed-up a strong pre-season with two goals in his first couple of fixtures.

Overall, pre-season form offers a small set of mostly unreliable data and, for those reasons, should not be the principle influence on our selection. But that doesn’t mean it’s totally meaningless. Rather it’s a matter of viewing the overall context, picking out the more reliable indicators and using these, and only these, to inform our choices.

D1sable says…
For me, there are two important things to take from pre-season. The first concerns a player’s level of fitness. Has he had the minutes to be at his best? Is he likely to start the season after summer exploits? These can surely give an indication if the player is likely to start, which surely is the single most important factor in Fantasy Football.

Secondly, how are the team lining up? Is their new signing being shifted up into the front three? Is he taking a share of set pieces? These can give indications of potential for sure, though, on the other hand, if a full squad isn’t available for selection, it can also be a little misleading, so some research is recommended before diving in.

Aside from these two points, I genuinely think pre-season form matters very little, given that so many opponents are far from the calibre you’d expect to find in the Premier League.

Applebonkers says…
Pre-season is all we have for a month so, admit it or not, it chauffeurs our attentions from player to player. Wigan’s Mauro Boselli is the obvious example of a player to shine in pre-season but fall flat in the Premier League. Arguably, Jozy Altidore’s international hat-trick for USA four days before the season started carries the most guilt.

So the only time “form” plays any part now is as part of the word “formation”. With four new managers, an obscene amount of summer signings and a trio of promoted sides added to the mix, there are lots of unknowns, which the final friendly specifically provides some insight into. That insight should be limited to starting place and starting position, though. Past knowledge of the player and future hunches should do the rest.

Jonty says…
Pre-season is littered with traps, with squad players shining brightly on a Tuesday night against Gravesend, Burton Albion or the best XI Vietnam can muster, only to be dropped when the season gets underway and they have to face proper Premier League opposition.

I gain little knowledge from a player scoring against minnows in a friendly but that is not to say pre-season is not without its uses. The schedule of friendlies can be useful to clarify existing ideas about players. With a good summer under his belt, I go into 2015/16 with high hopes that Mesut Ozil will do well. Pre-season has shown me that he has the manager’s support and is delivering against some top sides, as well as some lesser ones.

In contrast, I’m still unsure as to whether Wayne Rooney, Memphis Depay or Juan Mata will be the best Manchester United option and the summer matches haven’t helped either. The Red Devils have looked brilliant and laboured in equal measure of late, which has offered me little guidance. I’ll most likely go for Rooney as a seasoned performer.

Each year I tend to stick with players in my Gameweek 1 squad who have delivered for me in previous years and have favourable fixtures, such as Rooney. A good or poor pre-season performance can help with such decisions, but rarely do they dictate them.

Evs says…
Fantasy managers need to carry out some pre-season research, particularly to understand where or when a new signing will fit into already established teams. I often use the last match prior to the season getting underway as a good indicator, as most coaches tend to give their starting team a trial run before the big kick off.

Obviously we need to be careful of a big or expensive signing and jumping to conclusions that he may take the place of an already-established player. A cracking example of this was Filipe Luis last year, who failed to make an impact for Chelsea in the Premier League.

New signings can always be a gamble based on summer form. For every Michu, the Swansea midfielder who carried his form into the Premier League, there is a Mauro Boselli, who has become synonymous for failed pre-season punting.

Mark says…
I always love to at least try to put some emphasis on pre-season form. I think this is natural because, having gone to the trouble of tracking player progress for behind-closed-doors training matches and Tuesday night trips to Exeter, I want some kind of pay-off for my efforts. I want to take a punt on a player with strong pre-season form to justify my toils in maintaining lists of teamsheets, goals and assists when others, including some notable players, are reclined by a pool.

In reality, history has taught me that putting too much stock in that striker who scores a glut of summer goals is dangerous.

Having said that, with fitness analysts at play in every club, there’s no doubt that Premier League managers have their players tracked meticulously during this spell. The minutes spent on the pitch are logged and analysed and only 11 players who have proved their fitness will cross the line in Gameweek 1. With this in mind, we have to take notice and use the information gleaned as a guide to our own decisions.

For me, two players stand out and their performances in pre-season has convinced me that I have to take their application to my squad seriously – they are Theo Walcott and Raheem Sterling. Both look fired up and, quite literally, “up to speed” to the point that I believe they will terrorise defenders from the get-go.

Would I have had the confidence in them to select them without studying pre-season progress? Maybe, but like many things with Fantasy Football, having more information, having another angle and viewpoint, is just enough to tip a decision and resolve a dilemma.

Demi says…
I don’t think pre-season should have much influence on who we pick based on their goal scoring exploits. However, it’s always nice when a player you were already considering notches a couple over the summer just to reaffirm your belief. In reality, there shouldn’t be a great deal read into it, because pre-season is mainly used to get players’ fitness up and give manager’s an idea of who’s going to feature prominently in their first team plans. It obviously isn’t played with the same intensity as a competitive match and the goals scored during summer friendlies aren’t cherished or remembered by the players/clubs once the campaign kicks off.

Pre-season can be very important to get a feel of players starting positions, and the formations that managers are likely to stick with for the start of the campaign. It can also be a decent indicator of which fringe/youth players could enter our thoughts for the budget positions in the squad at some point in the season if their are injuries to the first XI at any point in the season.

Ryan says…
I take very little from pre-season matches. The whole point of summer friendlies is for the entire squad to gain match fitness and be up to speed for the campaign ahead. Form should be taken with a large grain of salt because we cannot expect either team in a friendly to playing at 100%.

We can perhaps get a gauge on likely first team players. Some managers have played their pre-season fixtures with an obvious first and second team. This might give a strong indication as to who the manager considers to be first choice. I think it’s clear who Louis Van Gaal considers as first choice for Manchester United based on the two-team set-up he employed in the USA tour, for example.

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  1. gdog2244
    • 13 Years
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    Pants, Hennessey
    Kos, Cedric, Saylor, Gomez, Azpi
    Hazard, Mané, Cazorla, Henderson, Westwood
    Rooney, Benteke, Sakho
    0.5 ITB

    A) Kos, Hendo, Sakho

    B) Kos, Depay/Ozil, Wilson

    C) Mert, Sterling, Wilson

    1. dmhomag
      • 11 Years
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      A. Hendo is value for 7. Sakho is nailed and a proven PL scorer.

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
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        "Hendo is value for 7"

        5 words u and many will not agree with at the end of this season

  2. jgjokaj
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    whose the best 5 mil defender out there ? Lescott ??

    1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
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      Or Cedric(SOU) maybe. Williams(SWA) too

    2. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
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      Cedric

    3. Saint & Reevesy
      • 13 Years
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      Cedric and Toby in my opinion.

    4. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
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      Check the watchlist

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 13 Years
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        Watchlist says Cedric and PVA but many disagree

        1. Ryan
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          I don't know why

          1. NABIL - FPL otai
            • 13 Years
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            me neither.

            I think PVA will be one of the early bandwagons. Fixtures + Lens effect

            1. TJ_777
              • 11 Years
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              Is lens and vardy too punty

              I'm considering them over Chadli and sakho

              Extra mil upgrades to kolarov who will have free kicks with no toure or kun

              1. NABIL - FPL otai
                • 13 Years
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                I think so.

                Lens is a bandwagon that we can jump later on if needed and not necessarily to have from the start. Maverick pick though.

                Vardy is a great pick but I'll monitor with the new gaffer and there are too many competition in LEI attack.

                Kolarov is a nice pick. If I'm brave enough, I'd pick him.

                1. TJ_777
                  • 11 Years
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                  Thanks have

                  Milner
                  Vardy
                  Kolarov

                  ATM (would have Chadli but own Kane now)

                  1. NABIL - FPL otai
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                    very decent picks. good luck

                    1. TJ_777
                      • 11 Years
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                      Thanks 🙂

  3. Saint & Reevesy
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    10 years, 5 months ago

    Afternoon all.

    I watched a rerun of the charity shield last night (slow TV night in Brisbane). Anyhows, im more confused than every about the Arsenal midfield.

    I've currently got Caz over Ozil - but I have doubts that's the right call.

    I've parked Walcott and Giroud as for 9m+ you want to be assured of a player being on the pitch.

    What's the consensus in the DZ - Caz or Ozil do you agree that Walcott and Giroud will reduce each others game time?

    1. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Caz for me, Ozil just disappears every other game.

    2. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
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      I'm actually considering Ramsey or Wilt Chamberlain... But yes Walcott and Giroud do seem to dilute each others points potential

    3. Ryan
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      Yeah I think Walcott and Giroud have cancelled themselves out, especially when Sanchez returns to the fold.

      Ramsey Caz and Ozil are all good options and there isn't much between them. Comes down to personal preference I think.

    4. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
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      I'm going Oz

    5. tw
      • 14 Years
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      I'm going Walcott to start

    6. Salfpilgrimlfc
      • 12 Years
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      Caz

    7. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
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      hi mate, the Cazorla v Ozil debate is a difficult one. I was in the pro Ozil camp initially but now have Caz in my team. The fact he's on free kicks and peno's tipped the scales for me. However, Ozil playing in the hole and with a full pre season under his belt for the first time in England could hit the ground running. (Dont mention Ramsey he'll just complicate things)

      Walcott is one of the most explosive FPL point scorers in the game. Sure he might get taken off for Giroud early, or he might start on the tight with Giroud starting in the lone striker position. I like what Walcott offers despite the risk

    8. The Shadow
      • 14 Years
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      Ramsey and Cazorla both score best from the Cm position. Both return fewer points when played on the wing. I had thought Cazorla had made the CM position his own last year, but after the CS it looks like Ramsey is back in the mix for time at CM.

      1. Ryan
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        This is what puts Ozil into the frame. Although with Sanchez out even Ozil will get a little time on the wing early on.

    9. dmhomag
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Sanchez back in training?

      1. Ryan
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        • 14 Years
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        Should be ready to start in GW2 I would imagine. Immediately putting Walcott Ramsey and Cazorla in doubt as only 2 will start.

        1. Saint & Reevesy
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          so Ozil it is then - likely to play centrally and less of a rotation risk once Sanchez is back?

        2. dmhomag
          • 11 Years
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          yeah seriously thinking of keeping Ozil and dropping walcott. Ozil could be a season keeper whereas Walcott is more explosive and punty.

  4. Salfpilgrimlfc
    • 12 Years
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    A. Lescott williams mert cedric saylor

    Or

    B. cedric mert azpi saylor taggart

    For the season? Not short term? Risky without chels or the 5.0s good cover for this?

    Am forced to do one of these as very tight funds planning for aguero to slot in

    1. gdog2244
      • 13 Years
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      A

    2. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
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      Defo B

    3. Salfpilgrimlfc
      • 12 Years
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      Will add my other bench will likely be a 4.5 midfielder also 🙁

    4. Saint & Reevesy
      • 13 Years
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      Unsure about the long term rotations but I assume you've mapped this out - My gut says A would work best here. That said if you had B you'd probably just play the first 3 every game and there's an argument to say that Mert and Azpi will pick up more points than trying to rotate the other bunch, plus its one less thing to think about.

      So B.

    5. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
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      So Lescott and Merte vs Azpi and Taggart?

      A

    6. Salfpilgrimlfc
      • 12 Years
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      Cheers guys, yeah with b would defo play the 3 all the time but my bench will just be fodder so thats why a was another option not looked at

  5. GK
    • 12 Years
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    Would be great to get your opinions on the two below options chaps! 🙂

    (A) Hazard, Ozil, Mane, Chadli, Fletcher
    (B) Hazard, Walcott, Sterling, Mahrez, Fletcher

    1. Salfpilgrimlfc
      • 12 Years
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      A

    2. Redhulkster
      • 12 Years
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      B

  6. President John F. Keninnsie
    • 12 Years
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    Anyone else still have absolutely no idea what their final team will look like? 😀

    1. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      o/

    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Me

      1. Salfpilgrimlfc
        • 12 Years
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        🙂

    3. dmhomag
      • 11 Years
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      *raises hand*

    4. The Shadow
      • 14 Years
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      I still haven't decided what my first team will look like. 😯

    5. tw
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Still working on my first draft 😀

    6. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Mid and attack sorted out.

      Defense and GK are a mess

      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I have an 2 or 3 ideas, though I'll have to wait for the pressers to be sure.

    7. President John F. Keninnsie
      • 12 Years
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      Glad I'm not alone 🙂

    8. Salfpilgrimlfc
      • 12 Years
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      Draft number 967800 done this evening

    9. tm245
      • 14 Years
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      Uh oh. I've been set for over a week now.

      1. President John F. Keninnsie
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        😯

    10. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
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      I have an idea of the types of allocating of money and Haz Walcott Rooney and Kane are nailed barring injury besides that idk

    11. Redhulkster
      • 12 Years
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      At least u know

      That caulker will b ur captain gw1

    12. the cromulent one
      • 12 Years
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      I was pretty much settled. Then I got a reminder of Costa's hamstrings, and now everything is unclear. Bah.

  7. 7alwachi
    • 11 Years
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    Thoughts on a Joe Gomez punt?

    1. Salfpilgrimlfc
      • 12 Years
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      Gw 1 defo

      1. 7alwachi
        • 11 Years
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        Afterwards? Think he'll keep his place?

    2. Salfpilgrimlfc
      • 12 Years
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      Depends on his performance i guess, if does well rodgers does like the youngsters so i dont see why not and moreno hasnt been in amazing form

      1. 7alwachi
        • 11 Years
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        Was thinking along the same lines. Reminds me of Flanagan.

    3. Salfpilgrimlfc
      • 12 Years
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      Yeah flanagan had a good run until injury similar situation i guess his place to keep after preseason

    4. Salfpilgrimlfc
      • 12 Years
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      His place to lose rather

  8. GreennRed
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Are there any decent new options in the 5.5m or less midfielders.

    Not new but I've considered -

    McClean: not so nailed-on, maybe decent no. of assists, few goals.

    Grealish: untried. Some assists, few goals. Potentially good.

    Ki : even if he plays deep can always get a nice few assists and occassional goals.

    Any others?

    1. 7alwachi
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Riyadh Mahrez and Rolando Aarons.

    2. Ryan
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      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Odemwinge? Great fixtures and no Moses to contend with. 5.0 is a good price

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 13 Years
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        This. considering him and van Ginkel when the fixtures turn STO's side

    3. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 13 Years
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      Hey there, long time no see.

      They say Mahrez looks good, even for the 4th spot. Ki looks like Mr. Reliable. fwiw I'm starting with Sinclair as my 5th, and will monitor Van Ginkel.

    4. Pacman
      • 11 Years
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      Sinclair

    5. GreennRed
      • 14 Years
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      Cheers lads. Is Odemwingie so nailed-on? Might stay out in the carpal if he isn't 😉

    6. GB
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I feel like Mclean will be there most weeks. Pulis sees value in him.
      Mahrez and Sinclair for me. Aarons once fixtures clean up. Maybe even Ibe as a gamble

    7. tm245
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      MVG and Aarons are interesting, though not sure they're strong enough to be fourth mids.

    8. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Hoolahan

      HAS PKS FOR NORWHICH

  9. Ser Davos
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    My team seemingly comes down to Hazard and a 4.5 and Ivan and an 8.5 midfielder...

    1. Saint & Reevesy
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Put Haz in, otherwise you'll be hiding behind the sofa every Saturday.......

      1. Ser Davos
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        ah! But should Ivan explode early once more...

        1. Saint & Reevesy
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          True.

          every season I start with Ivan in then on the 100th draft get rid to free up cash elsewhere and he burns me....... you'd think i'd learn.

  10. chobentys
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Hi all!!

    Am I good to go for GW1?

    Schmeichel (Fabianski)
    Azpilicueta / Mertesacker / Francis (O'Shea) (S. Taylor)
    Sterling / Henderson / Walcott / Hazard (Wanyama)
    Rooney / Pelle / Sakho

    0.0 ITB

    Looking forward to feedback comments and suggestions guys!

    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Really strong in my eyes....

      Only question - how do you get Aguero in?

      1. chobentys
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers!

        My only idea for that is to pull the GW4 WC.. what say you?

      2. @BigChrisso
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Kun plan: Wally > 6.5 mid or below, Rooney > Kun??

        1. chobentys
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah how about Wally to Ritche then Roo to Kun?!

  11. hcttac
    • 10 Years
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    Thoughts this is for skys ff as i want to take my mates ££££££

    pantilimon

    martin ward annholt

    depay hazard gardner ozil wijnaldum

    rooney lukaku ?

  12. Can’t beat em so&hell…
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    A Bacuna and Mutch
    B Richards and Sinclair

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 13 Years
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      B with other 4.5 def

      1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
        • 14 Years
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        Like Kaboul... I just like the Villa/Southampton rotation a lot....

    2. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
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      gAmble

      • 12 Years
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      A

    3. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
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      b but not Richards

    4. theBoose
      • 13 Years
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      B, with mahrez.

  13. GB
    • 10 Years
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    Think I'm I'm finally happy.

    Panti, Hennessey
    Azpi, Bellerin, Huth,
    Sterling, Caz, Tadic, Mata, Mahrez,
    Kane (C), Pelle

    Subs - Deeney, Francis, 4.0 def

    Panti (solid), azpi(solid), huth(solid), sterling(potential quality), tadic(gamble but potential), kane(quality & fixtures) and pelle(fixtures and nailed) have not moved from my template. Caz was Ozil but have swayed. Mata was Fab but like Mata if he gets minutes. Mahrez is quality and happy to have him or deeney each week.

    Lacking Chelsea attack, but don't see the early value in Haz due to fixtures and with Costa issues I think Fab could struggle for attack points.

    Each year I wild card too early so I have saved enough in the bank to transition to aguero with 1FT, who will be my nailed on captain.

    Pick away please

    1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I like the thinking... all looks solid.

      just seems a bit risky without any star attacker such as Rooney, Aguero, Hazard...

    2. Egg Fried Reus
      • 11 Years
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      Think I remember reading that LVG has gone off Mata a little recently. Apart from that I like it.

    3. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Kane (C) away to Man U = BOLD

    4. GB
      • 10 Years
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      If Aguero is named he's in before gameweek 1. I was unaware of LVG on Mata. Would Depay be a better option. Man U defence has looked shakey for as long as I can remember. If Kane comes off would be a nice little start, if not there's 38 weeks to chase.

  14. Saint & Reevesy
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    excuse my ignorance but why the Mahez love...... who does he play for, whats he done pre season?

    1. Huddersfield
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Leicester , not a new signing , pre season 1 G 2 A i reckon

    2. GB
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      He's a quality player. If he was in a bigger team he would probably be pooping up on here a lot more

  15. foreverton
    • 12 Years
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    What mistakes do you think alot of people are making here?

    1. The Shadow
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Asking people to rate their team is the big one I see.

    2. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      no siggy no coutinho

      1. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Don't agree with Countinho....

        Firmino is way better than him most don't know it however

    3. Egg Fried Reus
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Think that this year is their year

    4. Gussy
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Not leaving enough flexibility in their sides. This doesn't just include flexibility due to pricing, but also to the 3 player per team limit (watch the double Leicester keeper get stuck at some stage, along with the wanyama/targett players)

      I don't think it is a mistake but considering a chelsea defender -over let's say an arsenal defender - a must I feel is pretty misleading. I think chelsea and arsenal will keep a similar amount of clean sheets for the first part of the season but people are very much strongly set on their ways.

      O'Shea/Coates/Kaboul dilemma...People don't want O'Shea to play because he is considered the worst defender of the three. That doesn't mean the manager doesn't want him to play...it's all up in the air really.

      1. NABIL - FPL otai
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        100% agree. Still going with Targett though.

        Very much agree.

        Just get PVA

    5. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Ignoring Payet 😉

    6. GB
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Rooney

      1. Ryan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Even though I agree I think most see him as a stepping stone to Aguero

    7. Ryan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Ignoring fixtures. I see a lot of people are prepared to have attacking players with some awkward opening fixtures

  16. Peggi
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    what playing 4.5mil mids are there other than Wanyama?

    1. foreverton
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Bentaleb

    2. chobentys
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Anya and D. Fletcher too!

  17. PINKFISH (SANCTIONED AND GA…
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    I can't find Barcley on the captains poll ?

    1. foreverton
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Lukaku is the better captain option imo, though I have both.

  18. savas
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Hey DZ need your humble opinions 🙂

    Ruddy
    Azpi Darmian Huth
    Haz Walcott Sterling Chadli Sinclair
    Rooney Benteke
    Subs: Rudd, Sakho, Targett, Gomez

    Playing 352 until Aguero is back.

    Ta

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      v.solid imo ...
      need another GK imo (could downgrade wally→ozil/caz) ?

      1. savas
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Im going for the one gk route. Walcott is one of my main stay players.

        You reckon Targett and Gomez are risky?

    2. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Decent team, a little flimsy with Targett and Gomez who aren't nailed on in the slightest.

      Prefer Cedric to Darmian as well, good to have some Southampton for their fixtures.

  19. PM
    • 16 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Lukaku or Siggurdson? (tinkering with 5 mf look vs. a 3 striker look)

    1. foreverton
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Lukaku - No idea where the points will come from this years for swans...several creative players on the sheet. Though I'm punting on Gomis for GW2

  20. Huddersfield
    • 10 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Amr Zaki

    1. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      what about him ??

  21. Salfpilgrimlfc
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    When sanchez comes back and if explodes im going to have a real headache, who do you get in? Haz sanchez aguero rooney? Prob can only have two without wrecking the team

    1. Jacques The Lad
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I wasn't too disappointed with a team I made up a while ago with Haz Kun and Alexis

      1. Salfpilgrimlfc
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Think would prefer those 3 to roon

        1. Jacques The Lad
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          it required 2 6.5s upfront and a 5.5 4th mid but it wasn't too shabby

          1. Salfpilgrimlfc
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Just had a quick play around

            Ruddy

            Azpi cedric mert huth

            Hazard mane sanchez milner chadli

            aguero

            Bech = fodder

  22. Arvin-ation
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Which would you prefer?

    A) Ramsey + Depay + Rooney

    B) Ramsey + Ozil + Rooney (would max out my Arsenal)

    Probably WC in GW 8.

    Cheers 🙂

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B with Santi.

      I'm going with Just Wally + Roo

    2. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      B)

      Depay is a wait and see I think

    3. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      THanks both 🙂

  23. dmhomag
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Walcott dropped. Too punty, not sure of minutes. Josting with Gru, Ramsey Ox Caz for minutes.

    Sanchez back GW2.

    Done.

    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Go with Ozil besides Sanchez best arsenal mid

      1. GB
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        What about Caz?

        1. TJ_777
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Defensive mid has PKS and free kicks yes but...

          This is ozils season was out a majority of time yet scored very well

          He is central now so will pull strings

          Don't like 8.5 Dms

          1. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
            • 14 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Caz isn't a DM though...

            1. TJ_777
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Why does he play next to coquelin then?

              I understand he pushes up but in reality he plays deep in the midfield I'm not a fan of them

              Yes he played on the Lw last season but with Walcott and Sanchez chances are he wont

          2. tokara
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Ozil was on the flanks in the Shield

            1. TJ_777
              • 11 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Arsene confirmed he will play centrally don't have link tho

            2. Ryan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 14 Years
              10 years, 5 months ago

              Only because Sanchez wasn't playing. He'll be back in GW2. Ozil and Caz shared time on the wing in the CS

              1. tokara
                • 11 Years
                10 years, 5 months ago

                then i got to rethink whether to have Wally on my team.

                But Ozil is ozil, only do well at Home and will go invisible in big games.

                Arsenal will have 3 Home games in next 5, WHU / LIV / STK and LIV is a big game

      2. TJ_777
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Forgot about Walcott

        Sanchez > Walcott > Ozil > Carzola > ramsey

    2. @BigChrisso
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Moves armband to Walcott

      1. dmhomag
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        You are not wrong but it is now a good one week punt rather than an early season differential.

        Now it is a transfer out waiting to happen by GW2-3.

        Ozil is the most obvious for getting into ARS.

  24. Colonel Klink
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    J. Rodriguez thought not to be in the line up the first match or two? He seemed like he was featuring in preseason well.

    1. Arvin-ation
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Koeman doesn't think he is fit enough. He's made comments post-match indicating he won't start JRod from the get go.

      1. Colonel Klink
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Cool, thanks. But he's in the plan, it seems.

        1. tokara
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Pelle is on form and Soton need big tall players to play up front

          1. Colonel Klink
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            Not to replace Pelle, but to play off him.

          2. jace_nooch
            • 10 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            JRod to play out wide if he does come on but still able to score. I originally had JROD in my time. proven scorer in an even better team now. Wait for his fitness as mentioned to improve. Pelle still my choice at the moment

  25. jgjokaj
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    is anyone going with Clyne in the back ?

    1. TJ_777
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Only people who aren't smart

      Pools fixtures=trash

    2. Jacques The Lad
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I wish

      1. Twelve years a slave
        • 15 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        I am

        1. Jacques The Lad
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          care to share the rest?

    3. theeribert
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Yes sir.

    4. EAGLES (0 Chelsea players)
      • 14 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Highest owned defender

  26. Jacques The Lad
    • 11 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    G'day lads, since the pages seem to have slowed down I thought I would put my team out there. Still not sure whether I should shoehorn Ivan into the backline, whether i should go with Wally over Sterling and whether to stick with the keepers or go rutland. Anyway, here it is:

    Fabianski Elliot
    Kosc Azpi Huth O'Shea Francis
    Haz Caz Sterling Chadli Wanyama/bentaleb
    Rooney Pelle Sakho

    1. tokara
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Caz is ok to me, Wally is just for those feeling rich

      I would remove Chadli...maybe Richie or Mahrez if u want

      1. Jacques The Lad
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Nah definitely sticking with chadli

    2. Aston Villa-Boas
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I think Panti/4.0 or Rutland are better keeper options

      1. Jacques The Lad
        • 11 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        only alternative I like is rutland, Fabianski is bound to deliver the goods and when Newcastle's fixtures take a turn around gw9 then elliot is already in place for kruliot

        1. dmhomag
          • 11 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          I worry it might be Krul/Darlow.

          1. Jacques The Lad
            • 11 Years
            10 years, 5 months ago

            god I hope not

  27. EmreCan Hustle
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Morning DZ!

    Thoughts on this team please/

    Ruddy Rudd
    Ivan Cedric PVA Huth Francis
    Hazard Walcott Mane Lens Sinclair
    Rooney Benteke Sakho

    Sinclair as 5th mid to take advantage of their fixtures and also it's a gut feeling 🙂

    Thanks.

    1. Jacques The Lad
      • 11 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Not sure about Lens and GKs and I'm waiting to see what tekkers can do at liverpool

    2. Hy liverpool
      • 12 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      love sinclair/lens differential/risky
      pva→coates +rudd→4.5 ( coz you'd need him more than pva imo)

      1. EmreCan Hustle
        • 13 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Cheers, is Coates nailed?

  28. Hy liverpool
    • 12 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    migs Ruddy
    azpi kos cresswell huth coates
    hazard cazorla mane mahrez sinclair
    rooney benteke sakho

    thoughts!!

    a) migs/ruddy/kos/mahrez→ cech/hens/gomiz/chadli??
    b) mahrez→Ritchie ??

    1. EmreCan Hustle
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Love it! Nice Kosc/Cresswell rotation.

  29. La Roja
    • 13 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Morn DZ

    Woke up with this team

    Mig
    Darmian Kos Huth
    Ritchie Depay Santi Hazard
    Pelle Tekkers Costa

    Hennesey Coates Targett Bentaleb

    1. EmreCan Hustle
      • 13 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      Looks great! Only not sure about Utd def just yet.

      What's your logic on;
      Mane vs Pelle
      Rooney vs Depay
      Caz vs Ozil

      Gut feeling? Or something else?

      1. jace_nooch
        • 10 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Mane or Pelle it doesn't matter both will score. I have both in my team. Pelle a great pre season as did Mane when he featured. Mane gets forward a lot.

        Rooney a proven scorer and nailed captain. Depay may take a while to adapt. Hope not 😉

        Caz v Ozil... both take set pieces. Caz with penalties. Has been playing double pivot in front of back 4 and out wide with Ozil tucked in behind Striker. Ozil to have a breakout season. I had Caz last season, GUN!

        1. EmreCan Hustle
          • 13 Years
          10 years, 5 months ago

          Cheers, and if you had to choose between Ozil and Wally?

  30. Can’t beat em so&hell…
    • 14 Years
    10 years, 5 months ago

    Cannot. Stop. Tinkering.

    Is this good enough to start with or any obvious issues?

    Cech - 4m

    Azpil - Toby - Cedric (Kaboul, Richards)

    Haz - Ozil - Sterling - Hendo (Sinclair)

    Adebayor - Rooney - Pelle

    1. GB
      • 10 Years
      10 years, 5 months ago

      I like it, Good mix and value in all ranks. Has Adebayor signed on yet and will he really explode like he has so often when signing for a new club? Happy with Hendo over Milner? Toss a coin I guess.

      1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
        • 14 Years
        10 years, 5 months ago

        Not yet with Ade but makes sense for both clubs so I think it will....

        Hendo/Milner.. who knows? Hendo maybe safer to begin with and on FKs?