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18 July 2016 681 comments
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Early last week, West Ham confirmed the signing of Besiktas winger Gokhan Tore on a season-long loan, with a view to a permanent move.

The 24-year-old Turkish international will be reunited with Hammers boss Slaven Bilic in east London, having played for him in Turkey, and admitted the lure of working with the Croatian was impossible to resist:

“I am very happy to be at West Ham. I watched many games that they played last season and saw how passionate the fans are. That made me want to come here and I am looking forward to playing in front of them. Slaven was also a big factor in me coming here and he is a great manager. He is the main man and knows me very well. I could not have said no to him. He is the best manager I have worked under and he is like a father to the players. You feel like you are family.”

The History

Born in Cologne, Germany, Tore started his youth career at SV Adler Dellbruck, before moving to Bayer Leverkusen as an 11-year-old. Tore spent six years with Bayer, before being spotted by Chelsea’s Sporting Director Frank Arnesen.

He moved to Stamford Bridge in 2009, but only featured for the reserves, playing an important role in the squad that won the Premier Reserve League in 2010/11.

Tore returned to Germany in the summer of 2011, joining Hamburg. He made 22 league appearances during the 2011/12 campaign, registering six assists, but failed to get on the scoresheet.

A move to Russian side Rubin Kazan in 2012 saw Tore’s career stall briefly, making only five league appearances during 2012/13, before joining Besiktas on a season-long loan in June 2013. The wide man took his chance to impress, scoring four goals and providing seven assists in 30 league matches, and secured a permanent move to the Turkish club in August 2014 for a fee believed to be around €4.5 million.

Over the last two seasons, Tore made 52 league appearances, scoring eight goals and registering 12 assists, and helped the club win the league title for the first time since 2009 last season.

Having represented Turkey at every youth level from Under 15 upwards, Tore made his senior debut against Estonia in August 2011. Despite having made 26 appearances for the national team, Tore has yet to score, although he has registered five assists.

The Prospects

While Tore is comfortable operating on either flank, he’s played the majority of his football on the right wing. He’ll offer competition to the likes of Michail Antonio, Manuel Lanzini and fellow new boy Sofiane Feghouli in the attacking midfield positions, with Dimitri Payet a sure starter for the Irons. The futures of both Enner Valencia and Diafra Sakho both look in doubt though, with the latter increasingly linked with a switch to Sunderland.

With both Tore and Feghouli on board, though, the recent comments of West Ham co-chairman David Gold, whish suggest that Bilic considers Antonio one of the best right-backs in the Premier League, lends further weight to the idea that the former Forest man could be utilised in defence next season. Considering he bagged eight goals and seven assists last year, that would be a real source of frustration for Fantasy managers.

Tore, like Feghouli, has lacked an end product to his play – the Turkish international has never scored more than four times in a league season, whilst Feghouli has yet to better the six-goal mark. The pair averaged a shot every 52.2 and 57.2 minutes last term, with Lanzini quicker on 40 minutes.

In terms of creativity, Tore averaged a key pass every 39.5 minutes, which was better than both Feghouli (every 48.4 minutes) and Lanzini (every 58.2 minutes).

It’s expected that Tore will set us back around 7.0 in FPL, with both Lanzini and Feghouli likely to be handed similar price tags. All three will be considerably cheaper midfield options than Payet, but we may need to wait and see who nails down a regular starting berth during the opening weeks of the season before investing.

Lanzini will be unavailable for the opening two Gameweeks due to his involvement in the Olympic tournament though, so Tore and Feghouli should have plenty of opportunities to impress early on – particularly if Payet is eased back into action following his Euro 2016 exertions.

Although the Hammers’ opening fixtures (che, BOU, mci, WAT, wba) are mixed, Bilic’s side will have little fear for those trips to Chelsea and Man City, given they scored twice in each of the corresponding matches in 2015/16.

If Payet is fully fit and raring to go, it’s difficult to look beyond a player that averaged 5.7 points per game last term, though the Hammers’ free-flowing attack may ultimately provide us with value alternatives to the Frenchman.

Antonio can’t be ruled out altogether, though, and could potentially be utilised on the right of midfield if the Hammers go with a 3-5-2 or 3-4-3 set-up. Indeed, Bilic utilised a wing-back system on a number of occasions in the second half of last season.

More of a creator than a scorer, it remains to be seen whether Tore can emerge as a viable option, though with the likes of Payet and Feghouli also capable of a killer pass, it may be that our attentions could turn to Carlos Bacca, if Bilic can acquire the AC Milan striker as his preferred option to Andy Carroll up front.

Further Reference

Gokhan Tore Wikipedia

Gokhan Tore Transfer Markt Page

Gokhan Tore You Tube

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  1. Bøwstring The Carp
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Tinkering can finally start soon.

    Just wanna see player prices and the new features

    1. Prøphet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Im more interested in new rules if any. I hope there is non tho.

      1. Bøwstring The Carp
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I'm worried they'll redefine assists 😕

        1. Prøphet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Im worried they will do the captain switch or sub switching 🙁 THats my main concern 🙁

        2. Camp No No
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Don't they do that every now and then? Imo, they maybe should. Last year's definition left the assist decisions largely at the discretion of FPL towers. A clearer rule would be nice.

      2. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Bonus calculations maybe - assuming they will still be transparent. But that probably wouldn't influence my initial selection. Plus they always tinker a little with the price change rules - but we never know about those anyway until the codebreakers get to work.

        1. Prøphet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          As i mentioned above i am just worried they might do the captain switches and be close to the Euro fantasy which i didnt play due to those reasons

          1. andy85wsm
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            • 15 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            I'd say there's almost no chance they bring in captain switches to FPL. Perhaps they'll do another type of UFPL one day but I can't see captain switches in the normal game

            1. Prøphet
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              I really hope you are right tho

    2. Clumsy Sakho
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      You reckon 11am?

      1. MrMaverick
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Something has to happen today, even if the game doesn't launch. Page goes into updating mode maybe, some price teasers?

      2. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        nah I dont think its launching today but I'll give it until 2pm

    3. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Prices will do for me - I'd guess if they have problems with the coding they could still release the player list first.

      1. BENOIT
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        This. New website is one thing, but there's no reason not to release prices.

        1. Pork Pie Sausage Roll
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Personally would prefer if they kept the prices to themselves until the website was ready. Early price releases reminds me of peeking under the wrapping paper of presents under the tree at Christmas.

          1. Pasqualinho
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            I would justify it to myself by saying that the website that was late rather than the prices early.

    4. Clumsy Sakho
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Where are prices released?

      1. MDK
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        The released some teaser prices on twitter last year - not seen any this year which is why people fear it'll be later this week that it opens.

        1. RedLightning
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          • 15 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          The twitter prices last season were by Mark Rogers, who is not an FPL spokesman, although he tried to give the impression that he was.
          This time around, he does not appear to have obtained any leaked information.

  2. Mílanista
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Wahey, IMs link to the previous article is back 😀

    1. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Victory 😛 Freedom 😛 Power to the Poster 😛

  3. Jigger & Pony
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    New grav check

    1. Jigger & Pony
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Now just need FPL to open 🙂

  4. Bollard
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Looking forward to gw8 already 🙂

    1. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Not sure of my bench order yet, other than that so am I.

  5. Stats Don\'t Lie
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    2 mins...

    1. Conteseous Kante
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      not gonna happen

      1. Stats Don\'t Lie
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I beg to differ. My phone has indeed finished charging 🙂

  6. Play Pal
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Does FPL traditionaly open on the hour or is it just wishful thinking?

    1. thegreathoudini
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Last year was 11:30

      1. michudagawd
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        11:28 to be precise. 😉

    2. Camp No No
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Wishful thinking.

      1. Play Pal
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Thought so.

    3. twoplustwo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      We expecting today#? Just logged in

      1. michudagawd
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Unlikely I would say.

      2. Conteseous Kante
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        week commencing today.

    4. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      It opens when it's ready, which is traditionally 4am

      1. Prøphet
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Not actually true 🙂 Never opened at 4am for the start of the season.

        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          😯

        2. Jafooli
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          😮

  7. Beavis
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Juuuuhhuuuuu #Danielindisguise

  8. Lateriser 12
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone going to challenge Balders for poster of the year? He's already got it wrapped imo.

    1. Ayew Serious
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Wow 🙁

      1. Lateriser 12
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        You had a fair shot.

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Whatever 🙄

    2. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I was hoping he was just getting warmed up.

    3. Cheeseoid
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I will decline to compete.

    4. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      IM for me

    5. AK ⭐
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Would give it to JK, he came out of rehab and now isn't an RMT junkie anymore

  9. ashtini
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    UEFA top ten player nominees announced, no PL players in there:

    Neuer, Suarez, Kroos, Muller, Messi, Griezmann, Ronaldo, Buffon, Bale, Pepe.

    Will Grigg got the same amount of votes as Lloris and Pogba!

    1. ashtini
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      11 Riyad Mahrez (Leicester & Algeria)
      12 Jamie Vardy (Leicester & England)
      13 Dimitri Payet (West Ham & France)
      14 Jérôme Boateng (Bayern München & Germany)
      15 Arturo Vidal (Bayern München & Chile)
      16 Luka Modrić (Real Madrid & Croatia)
      17 N'Golo Kanté (Leicester & France)
      18 Zlatan Ibrahimović (Paris Saint-Germain/Manchester United & Sweden)
      19= Eden Hazard (Chelsea & Belgium)
      19= Andrés Iniesta (Barcelona & Spain)
      19= Neymar (Barcelona & Brazil)
      19= Renato Sanches (Benfica/Bayern München & Portugal)
      23 Robert Lewandowski (Bayern München & Poland)
      24 Gonzalo Higuaín (Napoli & Argentina)
      25= Giorgio Chiellini (Juventus & Italy)
      25= Diego Godin (Atlético Madrid & Uruguay)
      25= Will Grigg (Wigan & Northern Ireland)
      25= Hugo Lloris (Tottenham & France)
      25= Paul Pogba (Juventus & France)
      30= Toby Alderweireld (Tottenham & Belgium)
      30= Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang (Borussia Dortmund & Gabon)
      30= Kevin De Bruyne (Manchester City & Belgium)
      30= Kevin Gameiro (Sevilla & France)
      30= Grzegorz Krychowiak (Sevilla/Paris Saint-Germain & Poland)
      30= Blaise Matuidi (Paris Saint-Germain & France)
      30= Georges-Kévin N'Koudou (Marseille & France)
      30= Jan Oblak (Atlético Madrid & Slovenia)

    2. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      No Agüero? That's insane!

      1. Lone Wolf FPL
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        No Mata?

    3. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Where's Jan Kirschoff?!

  10. Woeisme
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 6 months ago

    Obviously, No Google,

    Table Quiz:

    Do you know who scored the second ever goal in the premiership?

    1. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Sheringham? Or was that the first...

      1. michudagawd
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Brian Deane was the first.

      2. Woeisme
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Brian Deane was first, but most know that. Second is obscure

    2. Jay_
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Brian Deane was first I think, Dion Dublin?

      • Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Cole

      • michudagawd
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Micky Quinn?

      • *sigh*
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Add on: do you know which English ground had the largest attendance that day?

        1. Norman Conquest
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          prob leeds or everton as united were away

      • Woeisme
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Probably is only claim to fame.Went on to Play for such giants as exeter, york Darlington, Wycombe, Kidememinister

        1. Pasqualinho
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Kidememinister?

          1. *sigh*
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            I'll give you a clue it wasn't a premier league club

            1. michudagawd
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              St. James' Park?

              1. *sigh*
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Correct sir

          2. Woeisme
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Yeah. A 5 a side team playing out of the 'Fox and hound' good work ethic

      • Uppercut Panda - A legend i…
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        do i even know who scored the first?

      • Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Alan Shearer

      • Cheeseoid
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Fjortoft?

      • Woeisme
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        John Williams (Coventry v Middlesbrough) apparently

      1. Prøphet
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Just seen that, wish i could play a few futsal matches with him..

      2. COW
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Up to Gold 3 now Andy. Plat here i come!

        1. andy85wsm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          In Siege?

          Nicely done mate. I've never gotten platinum and struggling for gold since the last reset. Not been playing as much recently though - lost my skills! 🙂

          1. COW
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Yeah. Its cause you're playing it on the wrong platform. :p

            1. andy85wsm
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 15 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              PS4 4 life!

              You were on XB1 right? I'd much rather play my games, especially FPS games on XB1 but all my mates play on PS4. I play FIFA on XB1 but that's about it

              1. COW
                • 14 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Yeah Xbox one. Tend to play with a full squad and we are all low to high golds apart from one. I don't tend to play very many games apart from Siege on it. I pick a game and stick at it till i get bored, or till another better game comes along.

                1. andy85wsm
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                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 6 months ago

                  Yeah I'm similar - I go through phases. I buy a lot of games then never play them. Have stuck with Siege all this time though - no shooter comes close to it for me. Every kill is satisfying.

      3. RustyBz
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        What a man

      4. OPTA FPL
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Scholes is there

        1. Jafooli
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          😮

    3. COW
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      No fear...Cow is here.

      How we all doing boys? Ready for the new season. I think its going to be a good one!

      1. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I find bovine optimism is often misplaced.

        1. COW
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          When i say good one, i mean in terms of a fun season. Not a fun FPL season.

    4. J0E
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      New Community article

      Here's The Puntmaster with the launch of his regular new Premier League players analysis.

      Contains his look at what they would have scored at their previous club/division last season if FPL points had been applied.

      http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/07/18/new-premier-league-players-analysis-2/

    5. oghash
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Will palace buy benzene today? Steve Parish (palace chairman) is just waiting for fpl to open to get 3 palace players plus benzene so he can have 4 palace after he buys him.
      Come on fpl, hurry up and open, I want a striker who can score at my team.

    6. Kings of Lyon ★
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Is there a player points list from last season floating around?

        1. Hans Landa
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          No, that's not it. Sorry.

    7. Prøphet
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Rumors going around in Italy are that WHU is ready to drop 50 million euros for Icardi.

      1. andy85wsm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Would he go to them though?

        1. Prøphet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Not sure, but he is wanted by a bunch of clubs tho.

      2. ashtini
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Saw talk of him landing in London yesterday. Could be for a number of London teams though tbf.

        1. Prøphet
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Yea, a bunch of teams want him as i said. If he ends up in PL there really will be so many striker options... Can we play 2-3-5 ? 🙂

        2. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Talk yesterday was Arsenal.

    8. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Hello chaps, back after a long hiatus.

      Has anyone got any news of any changes to the fantasy league this season? Or is it all being kept safely under wraps?

      1. andy85wsm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Welcome back - hope you enjoyed the time off! 🙂

        No news at the moment, not even any rumours of rule changes either.

        We'll find out sometime this week

        1. Boris Bodega
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Thanks, can't wait to get started on my FF team, wonder what changes they might be making? I can see the AOA chip being ditched.

          1. andy85wsm
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            • 15 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            I'm not sure there will be many changes really but we'll see. AoA not great for sure

    9. Lateriser 12
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      With regards to Ronaldinho, my friend works for the organizing committee for Futsal India. He was napping 3 minutes before kick off.

      #doeswhathewants

      1. RustyBz
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        He's been touring the world playing for random clubs and special events. And selling Hoverboards and Watches.

        Still love him 😀

      2. The Rock
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Legend!

        Still annoyed Utd didn't manage to snap him up after he left PSG, would have been great to watch him week in week out.

    10. Alan Hansen's Emu
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Surely FPL Towers will want to build the hype and interest before launch.

      There is no way from a marketing perspective I would launch today without having done significant teasers and hyping in the prior days.

      I would expect a couple of days before launch, with hype being built from today .

      1. MDK
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Why?

        They could launch now and those that are sad/keen enough will sign up as soon as it opens. They can then begin marketing it and drumming up further sign-ups. Doing it this way also spreads out the load on the site rather than having tens of thousands signing up at the same time

    11. 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Any thoughts on the Everton goalie situation?
      Hoping Stek could be priced as #2 but actually be #1

      1. Prøphet
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Well they have been linked with Rui Patricio as well.

        1. 1
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah I saw Begovic was linked as well. Hopefully the friendlies will clear up the Robles/Stek situation if they don't buy anyone else.

          1. Prøphet
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Yea, friendlies will clear a lot of things up.

      2. Jazz!
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Koeman seems to like him but I'd definitely go for a new #1.

        1. Ayew Serious
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          All I can see is I'd #1

          1. Jazz!
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            😀

    12. RustyBz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I've not seen much of Pokemon talk here.

      No fellow Masters around??

      1. oghash
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Baters?

      2. Woeisme
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Who does he play for?

      3. nobwak
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        most of the people on here are grown-ass men...

        1. andy85wsm
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          • 15 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          This - big 'ard men grrrrrr

          1. RustyBz
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            big 'ard men spending 20 hours a week thinking, talking about and playing a virtual football game 😆

            1. nobwak
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              The thing about fantasy football is that yes, it is a "virtual football game", but it's so closely linked to a real life sport that it's impossible to play it so seriously and not learn a lot about the real game at the same time.
              I think (basing this on myself, really) that hardcore fantasy players are also hardcore football fans - which is a little less sad than "virtual football game" fans. Could be wrong though.

              1. andy85wsm
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                • 15 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Why does any of it have to be "sad" ?

                1. nobwak
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 6 months ago

                  I guess that's a question for wider society, rather than myself. I (clearly) don't think it's sad to play Fantasy, nor do I think it's sad that I play Destiny/Fifa/Football Manager for several hours a week. Lots of people DO think that's sad though, just as they do about grown men running around playing Pokemon. I wasn't really trying to portray my own opinion that it's "sad", just conveying the prevailing attitude in society. Maybe I'm way off the mark here, perhaps society believes that playing Pokemon or Destiny are productive and worthwhile uses of your time.

                  What I do think is pretty sad though, is that it takes a Pokemon game to get people out of the house exercising!
                  You get these people saying things like "this game is brilliant, it got me out of the house... something the threat of an early grave and a lifetime of health issues couldn't achieve". Completely beyond me, but each to their own.

                  I personally prefer being able to leave my gaming at home when I switch off my Playstation, it's nice having a little retreat in to VR when I feel like it, rather than LIVING in VR. Each to their own though, again.

                  1. RustyBz
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 6 months ago

                    As long as it's getting people out the house!

                    I personally go to the gym and play football regularly, but I think the whole concept is brilliant. And I love Pokemons, used to be addicted when I was younger. I'm sure it's a fad and it'll die soon but I like it.

                    1. nobwak
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 6 months ago

                      Yeah same here, I prefer the actual gym over Pokegym's (is that the right term?) - chicks prefer it too hahaha.

                      I think the whole augmented reality concept is really cool too, very impressive, albeit a little scary.

                      Yeah I guess you're right man, it might be a bit of a weird way to get people out exercising, but if it's working then who am I to knock it?

              2. RustyBz
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Everyone I know my age (early 20s) is playing it because we were the ones that grew up loving playing the game.

                I didn't say it was sad playing "virtual football games". What I find sad is people that spend so much time playing a game making fun of others for playing other games.

      4. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I have the app but haven't played much since the first couple of days. Think they'll need to scale it quickly to keep the hype going but it has massive potential - Nintendo stocks have risen loads!

        1. RustyBz
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          They first need to sort out their servers which is appaling! So buggy and laggy. And the downtimes are ridiculous

          1. andy85wsm
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            • 15 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Yup - it is frustrating but they recently had more daily active users than Twitter apparently - that is crazy!

            I'd imagine their server engineers etc are working round the clock to stabilize things. I don't think they realised it was going to be this huge

            1. RustyBz
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              It is honestly insane. I live in a really small town with and in an even smaller neighborhood. I went out with my little sister to catch pokemons sunday morning and I saw about 10-15 people running around playing it.

              Imagine in big cities!

                1. Sess!
                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 6 months ago

                  Embarrassing

                  1. RustyBz
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 6 months ago

                    big man

                  2. andy85wsm
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                    • 15 Years
                    9 years, 6 months ago

                    Why?

                    They're simply playing a game, getting outside and meeting new people. What's the problem?

                    1. oghash
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 6 months ago

                      Imagine if you had the game on a smuggled phone in prison. Torture would be worse than water boarding

                      1. andy85wsm
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                        • 15 Years
                        9 years, 6 months ago

                        Well I wasn't planning on going to prison.... 🙂

      5. COW
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Fellow pokemon master here.

        Loving the game. Been out more over the past 3 days on walks than i have in the past 2 months!
        Hating the bug when you catch a pokemon and the pokeball just freezes 🙁

        Currently level 8.

        1. RustyBz
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Yeah, I've found myself walking so much more than I used to!

          The bug is the worst, and even worst when its a good pokemon and it wont let you back in for ages.

          Almost level 7...

          1. COW
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Have you been to gyms yet or anything?

            1. andy85wsm
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              • 15 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              I went to one of the gyms near my house - it's right in the middle of a kids playground! Luckily I had my son with me so it didn't look too weird - he's enjoying playing too!

              1. RustyBz
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                Not yet - might do it this afternoon. The local methodist church is a pokemon gym which is great as there are so many people outside it at all times playing 😆

                1. andy85wsm
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                  • 15 Years
                  9 years, 6 months ago

                  The office I work in is a Pokestop 😀

                  1. RustyBz
                    • 10 Years
                    9 years, 6 months ago

                    Haha so convenient

      6. nevins84
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Masters??? ahhahahahahaha one day you will look back on this with shame

        1. RustyBz
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I won't 😉

        2. andy85wsm
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          • 15 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Only if we're not masters...

        3. COW
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I think someone is jelly.

    13. Lone Wolf FPL
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      If you have 200M to make your team, what would it looks like?

      Hart, Courtois
      Azpiliqueta, Shaw, Bellerin, Alderweireld, Moreno
      KDB, Mikhitarian, Mane, Alexis, Payet
      Aguero, Sturridge, Ibrahimovic or Higuain (at Arsenal)

      Too be hones, it's not so easy to pick just 15 players (Cech, Ozil, Hazard, Mahrez, Vardy, Firmino, Mata, Alli, Kane etc.)
      Downgrade 1 GK, 2 def, 2 mid, 1 att and you have your team 😉

      1. Play Pal
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Moreno?

        1. Lone Wolf FPL
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          so your team would be...

          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Not including Moreno.

            1. Lone Wolf FPL
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              I tried to pick one of every "good" team but I know how Moreno troll us during last season but still I think that he's one of best back defenders - very attacking, create a lot of chances.

              1. Somalion
                • 16 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                He's a terrible defender and I really don't think his attack is that great. Put another way, he was under Klopp and given license to bomb forward but still got barely anything for that. I'm still waiting for them to buy a new left back to be honest.

                1. Lone Wolf FPL
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 6 months ago

                  Let's put Moreno a side. What's your best 15?

                  1. Somalion
                    • 16 Years
                    9 years, 6 months ago

                    No clue 😛 I like a fair few of your picks. Problem of course is things like injury (Aguero, Sturridge, Shaw), inconsistency (Mane, KDB), new to the league (Mkhitaryan, Ibra).

                    1. Lone Wolf FPL
                      • 10 Years
                      9 years, 6 months ago

                      thats why u have 15 not 11 players and transfer every GW + WC 😉

    14. andy85wsm
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      • 15 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      One of my Facebook statuses from 3 years ago. Wonder if I got the quote accurately:

      Brendan Rodgers kind of sums up Liverpool - [Suarez] "Of course he wants to work and play at the top level. But unless something drastic happens, he will be staying here."

      1. oghash
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Lol

      2. RedLightning
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        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Fair enough.

        If it hadn't been for that third bite, he might possibly have stayed.

        1. Funkyav
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          no mention of character, cant be true

          1. RedLightning
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            • 15 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            After some earlier problems, Liverpool appeared to be controlling his behaviour pretty well while he was with them, but they couldn't control him while he was away on international duty with Uruguay.
            And that third bite whilst playing for Uruguay was just one misdemeanour too far.

            1. Funkyav
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 6 months ago

              why would he have stayed when bigger clubs were interested?

              1. RedLightning
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                • 15 Years
                9 years, 6 months ago

                The Liverpool fans and players loved him (although he didn't love Brendan Rogers), and the previous season he eventually decided that he was happy to remain at Liverpool after Arsenal's bid was rejected.

                Barcelona would of course be far harder to resist, but Liverpool would have fought much harder to retain him or at least to get a much bigger transfer fee if it hadn't been for that third bite.

    15. The Kolarov Mane ⚔
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      So, most of my money league "members" have defaulted...

      1. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        We're changing the rules this year in ours. Rather than pay the winner after it's pay up front or you're not getting in.

        1. oghash
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I didn't know pay money leagues existed that you paid at the end. You must have some very honest friends!

          1. andy85wsm
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            • 15 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Very close friends I've known for years, a couple of them 20+ years.

            We used to all live in the same town but as we've grown up we've started living all over the place so it's harder to get the money and some haven't paid up so changing things around and holding it in a PayPal account this time around.

        2. The Rock
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          It's the only way..

        3. The Kolarov Mane ⚔
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          The best way to run a ML for sure. Pay up front.

        4. MDK
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I must admit I thought this was the norm

          1. andy85wsm
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            • 15 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Probably is for the most part but this is a group of friends (only around 6-7 of us in the league, those of us who are interested in football)

            As above - we used to see each other all the time so it was easier to collect (and we don't play for a lot)

      2. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        You stump up or you don't get the code in my book.

    16. RustyBz
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Can someone talk me through how Hazard is over Lewandoski and Godin in this UEFA list? Please.

      1. MDK
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        In places the list is a joke

        1. RustyBz
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I thought the top 10 was pretty good. But to be honest any of us could have come up with it. In fact I think many of us could do a better list than them!

          1. MDK
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            Top 10 is "almost" a given

            Ignoring the Grigg placing I found Renato Sanches equal ranking with Neymar laughable

      2. The Rock
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        All these Uefa and Fifa lists are just pointless.. Just look at the Fifa world rankings list.. Belgium 2nd best team in the world, Columbia 3rd... best not to take much notice from them!

      3. Kings of Lyon ★
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Hazard is one of the best plyers in the world Lewandowski hit some form and scored some tap ins

        1. RustyBz
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          He is, but it's done on this season. No? He had a truly horrendous season

          Lewandoski scored 47 in 63 this season.

          1. RustyBz
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 6 months ago

            "some tap ins". Brilliant.

      4. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I've seen Hazard play maybe 2/3 good matches this last season gone, scandalous that he is even near the list.

      5. Lone Wolf FPL
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        This list is and always was a joke!
        When U see list of golden ball players last year and who vote for who you would be laugh.
        Hazard this year should be aroud 100th place.

      6. The Sarjeant
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        I can't believe Agüero isn't on the list at all!

    17. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      Mourinho affect at United - Will it be essential to own at least 1 Man Utd defender this season?

      1. Däzzy
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Essential is a bit far...

        1. The Rock
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Agreed. Is a good option but so is Chelsea defender!

          it will be hard to find in a Chelsea and Utd defender considering the price they will be.

    18. MrMaverick
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      I'm thinking going with

      Courtois/McCarthy

      Nyom/Azpi/Johnson/Olsson/Friend

      Coutinho/KdB/Sigurdsson/Townsend/4.5

      Kun/Kane/Rhodes

      thoughts lads?

      1. nobwak
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        You might JUST afford this, if that's what you meant?

        If you're looking for advice on picks, rather than asking whether this team is affordable...
        Where are the Arsenal & United players? Personally I'd be looking to downgrade Kane a little, to afford Ozil or Mkhi - likely at the expense of Coutinho.
        I also don't like to "double up" on defensive options, so I'd be looking to change one of your Chelsea picks to either Man City, United, Arsenal, or maybe even Liverpool/Everton on a punt.
        Not sure if Rhodes will get starts every week, though he is a very very good player (I follow the Championship, and he's scored against my team more times than I'd like!!). Gray might be a better option.

        1. MrMaverick
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Don't think Arsenal will do well, looking to transfer them in when they have an easy run of fixtures in October.

          Not on the Mkhi bandwagon. Reckon a few midfield options will do better than him come May.

          Chelsea double up could change, probably will come the GW1 deadline. Least settled on the third striker slot, Gray might be overpriced due to the hype surrounding him.

    19. Jafooli
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      *gets popcorn

      1. andy85wsm
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        • 15 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        Salt or sweet? I'm a sweet man

        1. The Rock
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Mixture is hard to beat!

    20. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      You know, FPL could be using the 10 day French Republican Calendar, so it could launch next Tuesday or Wednesday.

    21. The Sarjeant
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 6 months ago

      If FPL doesn't open today, I'd expect some information to be released and every day that it doesn't open.

      1. RustyBz
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        why torture yourself 😆

        1. The Sarjeant
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          Tbf, the information they'd released would be like, "Puncheon, Mirallas and Charlie Adam are all 5.5 this year."

      2. Annie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 6 months ago

        demanding? Virtually no organisation does this 🙂

        1. The Sarjeant
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 6 months ago

          I'm not demanding that they should do it. Just what I think they would do. And they've released prices before the games launched many times. 🙂