Moving Target
11 August 2016 2600 comments
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Having bolstered Man Cityโ€™s attacking options with the acquisition of Nolito and Leroy Sane, new manager Pep Guardiola moved to strengthen his defence this week with the signing of Everton defender John Stones for a fee believed to be ยฃ47.5 million.

The 22-year-old England international put pen to paper on a six-year deal at the Etihad, and speaking to the clubโ€™s official website, revealed his happiness at joining City, and his desire to earn his place in Guardiolaโ€™s starting XI:

“I’ve obviously seen what’s going on here at the Etihad, it’s an ambitious club with a great manager so I can’t wait to get stuck in and help achieve the goals. I know it will be tough getting a place in this team but I’m determined to become the best player I can be and help us to success.โ€

The History

Stones came through Barnsleyโ€™s youth set-up, progressing all the way through to the first team. He made his professional debut in a 4-0 defeat to Reading in March 2012, and managed 28 appearances in all competitions for the Tykes, scoring one goal.

In January 2013, Everton paid Barnsley a fee reportedly in the region of ยฃ3 million to secure the young defenderโ€™s services, although he had to wait until August 2013 to make his debut for the Toffees, coming in a 2-1 against Stevenage in the League Cup.

Stonesโ€™ Premier League debut eventually came in a 1-1 draw against Stoke in January 2014, and he enjoyed a strong second half of the campaign, racking up a further 20 league appearances.

Whilst injury curtailed Stonesโ€™ progress during the first half of the 2014/15 season, he ended the campaign as a regular starter, and totaled 23 league appearances, scoring one goal.

Last season, the cultured centre-back was Phil Jagielkaโ€™s regular partner at the heart of the Everton defence, clocking up 33 appearances, although he failed to register any attacking returns. His individual performances did come under some criticism, though, with Evertonโ€™s disappointing campaign eventually leading to the departure of Roberto Martinez.

Stones represented England at Under 19, Under 20 and Under 21 levels, making 17 appearances in total, before earning a senior debut off the bench in a 3-0 win over Peru in May 2014. He was included in Roy Hodgsonโ€™s squad for Euro 2016, but was one of only two outfield players, along with Ross Barkley, not to feature in the tournament. He currently has 10 international caps but has yet to score for his country.

The Prospects

With Vincent Kompany expected to miss the opening weeks of the season due to a thigh injury, Stones will fancy his chances of going straight into the starting XI for Saturdayโ€™s season opener against Sunderland.

Guardiola started with Aleksandar Kolarov and Fernando in central defence in Cityโ€™s final pre-season match against Arsenal, but it could be that Stones partners Nicolas Otamendi against the Black Cats. The England man has got plenty of minutes under his belt playing for the Toffees during pre-season, and should physically at least be ready for the big kick-off.

Furthermore, Eliaquim Mangala has not been included in Cityโ€™s Champions League squad, which indicates the Frenchmen will likely be allowed to leave before the transfer window closes.

Guardiola favours using a four-man backline, so when Kompany does return to full fitness, it could leave Stones and Otamendi battling for one position. Given the investment made in the England international, he may be the one to keep his place providing he settles quickly in Manchester.

The major positive for Stonesโ€™ prospects is the fact Guardiola places so much emphasis on his defenders initiating attacks through their distribution, as he explained last month:

โ€œNormally central defenders are strong in the air and aggressive. But we need to have a good build-up to create easy passes in the midfield so they can create good passes for the strikers. I believe when the ball goes from the central defender to the striker as quickly as possible, it comes as quickly as possible back.”

Crucially, amongst all defenders who played over 1000 minutes last season, Stones was ranked fourth for completed passes with 88%, illustrating his capability as a ball-playing defender.

Comparing the underlying statistics of Stones, Kompany and Otamendi from last season, itโ€™s the Argentine who comes out on top. The former Valencia defender averaged a tackle every 21.4 minutes, far superior to both Kompany (45.9) and Stones (48.1). He held a similar advantage in terms of interceptions too, managing one every 27 minutes, better than both Stones (52.4) and Kompany (53.9).

The only significant area where Stones led the way amongst the trio came via blocks, averaging one every 83.9 minutes, far better than both Otamendi (215.9) and Kompany (310).

Otamendi could hold the edge for CBI, then, although the fact Kompany only managed 13 starts last season and was generally far from his best is perhaps not indicative of what we can expect if he can stay fit for a prolonged period of time.

The big factor in Stonesโ€™ favour from a Fantasy perspective is the fact heโ€™s priced at 5.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), whereas both Kompany and Otamendi are valued at 6.0.

That disparity is likely to be one of the main reasons why Stonesโ€™ ownership has soared to 27% since the move was confirmed, and if City can equal or better the 16 clean sheets they accrued last season, the former Barnsley man could provide fantastic value providing heโ€™s a regular starter.

As highlighted by this recent in-depth article on Guardiola’s tactics, the signs are promising:

โ€œGuardiola has had the best defensive record in every league campaign of his career at Barcelona and Bayern Munich. Tellingly, the most goals he’s ever conceded came in the first of those seven seasons and the fewest came in his last one with Bayernโ€.

Stones does, however, lack any real goal threat, having only averaged an attempt every 366.9 minutes last term. That was far worse than Otamendi (104) and Kompany (112.7), both of whom have scored at decent number of goals throughout their careers.

Cityโ€™s fixtures over the first six Gameweeks (SUN, sto, WHM, mun, BOU, swa) are fairly mixed though, so while Stones may offer tremendous value now playing for a side expected to compete for the title, it may take Guardiola time to get his methods across to his players โ€“ something that wonโ€™t be helped by Stonesโ€™ late arrival should he be thrust straight into the action.

Over the course of the season then, thereโ€™s every expectation that Stones could develop as a viable FPL asset under Guardiolaโ€™s guidance.

With a number of similarly priced options such as Robert Huth, Michael Keane, Ramiro Funes Mori, Alberto Moreno, Steve Cook, Patrick van Aanholt and Craig Dawson offering significantly greater goal threat, though, the City new boy may need to up his attacking output to offer exceptional value.

Further Reference

John Stones Wikipedia

John Stones Transfer Markt Page

John Stones You Tube

  1. Gandaia
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A) Baines

    B) Williams

    1. Simon69
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      c) Koné

    2. mdm
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Baines by mile... PK, FK, corners... all set pieces are in his locker

      1. Annie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        you sure about that?

      2. pompeyfan
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        we don't know he has all the set pieces, he didn't last year

    3. Energetics
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      It's a hard decision until we know if Williams will be the same BAP monster he was at Swansea.

    4. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I am on Williams right now, but if money not an issue - Baines. Or maybe even Coleman.

      1. Gandaia
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        With Baines I still have 0,5 in the bank.

        I am on Baines right now.

        1. James H
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Williams hasn't played a minute of pre-season, so is a slight risk for Gameweek 1. I'd say just don't take any gambles with your other defenders.

  2. Simon69
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Firmino likely to start up top for Liverpool vs Arsenal?

    1. Energetics
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I think so

    2. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      yes

    3. Simon69
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Thanks guys. Get in my team.

    4. Jersey
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      possible as a false 9.

      Origi also possible at striker with Firmino behind.

      Firmino should be dangerous in either case with Arsenal's centerback situation.

      1. Bolivian Seaman
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        pool fans think origi will come on near the end

        1. Jersey
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          i could see that.

          i like Firmino in this fixture in any case.

      2. Simon69
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        It's Eriksen or Firmino for me. Will definitely start w/ Firmino now.

        1. Milner4eva
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Firm is a much heavier scorer

          1. Simon69
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Cheers dude. Think he racked most points in that false 9 last season so hopefully.

    5. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      may well do

      absolute bargain at 8.5 with 2 good opening fixtures

    6. Baines on Toast...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I still feel like Mane has more to offer on the counter...kind of want both.

    7. DeathoftheParty
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      hope so!

    8. dja81
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Liverpool will be crazy not to start with a natural striker considering arsenals lack of centre backs.be surprised if firmino full 90 minutes.

      1. Simon69
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Nah, he did well for them in a false 9 last season.

  3. Energetics
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Repost

    Been trying to work out how to get Vardy into my team rather than Mahrez.

    A. Mahrez and Gray
    B. Redmond and Vardy

    I had been put of B because I already have Tadic who I want to keep, I see him as a long term option. But realising I should judge every player on who I think can score more not 'coverage' so surely B is the better option?

    What are your opinions? A or B?

    1. For Farke's Sake
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Redmond isn't nailed and Mahrez has question marks. Go with Grey and any number of the other excellent mid options, use the change to upgrade defence. The last two seasons have seen defenders dominate the points tables for the first three weeks due to lack of match fitness and cohesion (new signings) of attacking players.

  4. Jersey
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Thoughts?

    Foster Jakupovic
    Valencia VVD Friend (Kone Amat)
    Hazard Eriksen Tadic Townsend (Capoue)
    Kun Vardy Gray

    1.0 itb

  5. AJ24
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I think I am there with my team..

    Heaton, Foster,

    Friend, Stones, Shaw, Morgan, Amat

    Tadic, Barkley, Firminio, Alli, Fischer

    Aguero, Vardy, Gray

    RMT out of 10 please...

    1. Energetics
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I would downgrade Fischer to a 4.5 and maybe use that to upgrade one of your 8.5 to a 9.5, or even keep the million in the bank to you see which premium fires. Don't want to leave points on the be

  6. La Vida Latte
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Would you play 5.5 defenders like Fuchs, Shaw, Walker every week or will you rotate them depending on fixtures?

    1. Energetics
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      5.5 I would definately expect them to play every week

      1. La Vida Latte
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Expect? I mean will they be in YOUR starting 11 or on your bench if they have tough fixtures?

      2. tm370
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Agreed.

        1. tm370
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          If you have top 5.5s then dont rotate or buy different 5.5s if you want to rotate them. How would you know when to rotate a Walker or Shaw/Valencia/Bailly? even a goal scoring Van Djik or Coleman.

          Perhaps for the non top 4 teams youd drop them for United, City and Arsenal away, but apart from that I'd keep them all the time. Look at Bellerin last season.

          1. La Vida Latte
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            I think it is tricky. For example - you would rather play Walker against Everton away than Friend home against stoke?

  7. JÆKS โญ
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    It's been 2 days now and I still don't understand those Scandinavian O's on here, can someone please explain it to me....

    1. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Like this Ø?

      1. JÆKS โญ
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I don't even know how to type those ๐Ÿ˜€

        1. Henryyy
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Its a norwegian/danish latter that we pronounce different then O ๐Ÿ˜€ i wish i could epxlain how we pronounce it lol

          1. JÆKS โญ
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            I know how to pronounce it but don't know why it's in everyones name all of the sudden ๐Ÿ˜€

    2. Hykkerten
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Sounds like the O in Özil.

  8. Midozoty
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Hi Guys

    RMT

    De Gea (Jaku)
    Baines II Morgan II Stones (Amat, McAuely)
    Mahrez II Tadic II Firmino II Walcott (Capoue)
    Aguero II Costa II Gray

  9. Rupert The Horse
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Guess we'll never see how fast that 50 will come. Cook out.

    1. Cook is a flog.

  10. The Gambler.
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Ibra + Fischer + Williams

    Or

    Negredo + Martial + Azpil

  11. john25
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Can't decide between Firmino/Eriksen/Alli. Don't have any other Spurs or Liverpool players.

    Who do you guys suggest?

    1. La Vida Latte
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1 Firmino
      2 Eriksen
      3 Alli

    2. tm370
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Eriksen. He is a very steady performer with superb stats. I like Firmino alot but would start with Eriksen if you dont have Kane because of Spurs' superior fixtures. Firminio is also more of a rotation risk in view of Liverpool's saturated midfield and the Sturridge option up top.

    3. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      F > A > E

    4. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      firmino imo

    5. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Firminho

    6. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I have Firmino and Eriksen atm.

  12. Milner4eva
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Haven't changed my team in about 2 days :0

    Think I'm pretty much settled on my draft (bar big injury news in the pressers)

    1. Viiksisika
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Same here. Its bit suprising really as usually I change it up every day until the kick off.

  13. tm370
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A) Foster, Jakupovic
    Targett, Shaw, Stones, Williams, Amat
    Tadic, Hazard, Eriksen, Townsend, Sanchez
    Aguero, Gray, Diomande
    (0.5 in the bank)

    Or

    B) Foster, Jakupovic
    Targett, Shaw, Stones, Williams, Amat
    Tadic, Hazard, Firminio, Townsend, Capoue
    Aguero, Gray, Vardy
    (1 in the bank – Vardy to Kane GW 2). Targett to Kone planned when his situation is clearer and Bertrand is back.

    The big question is Sanchez. Kane and even Ibra seem more appealing choices on the face of things, but I don’t think it is statistically sound. Sanchez has an average of 14.5 goals in the past two seasons, and I think he can better an unlucky year last time round (Where he still scored 5.6 points per game – equal to Kane). With Arsenal clean sheet points (say 15) and extra goal points (15) –15 goals would require Kane and Ibra to hit the lower 20s, not to mention the likely extra assists for Sanchez. Any thoughts?

    1. Deece
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Kane and Sanchez for me. Proven in the prem.

  14. creaky24
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Hazard and Redmond

    or

    Tadic and Eriksen?

    1. Ron_Swanson
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Matteo Darmian is expected to be the preferred option at right-back.

      Really?

      1. dcarlito
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Uh oh... ๐Ÿ™‚

      2. Fragzurp
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        i personally think we'll be starting valencia considering his form and mourinho's preference

      3. Teddy Brewski
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Not a chance!

        1. James H
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          I'm not sure those at Sky have been watching much pre-season action!

          1. tm370
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Valencia will start but he is a rotation risk. Darmian missed a chunk of pre-season because of the Euros. Shaw is safer and Bailly safest but with minimal attacking returns.

  15. Get in ma Dembele
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A) Alli + Redmond + 1m
    B) Firminho + Lamela?

    thanks

    1. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      B

  16. andy85wsm
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Looks like Arsenal are going to sign Mustafi. Wonder if there's any chance of him coming in at £5m too, like Mertesacker and Gabriel.

    1. Fragzurp
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      5.5 i think

    2. Milner4eva
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      5.5 at least

    3. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      That would be nice! REALLY hope he signs....

    4. pompeyfan
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I reckon he'll be 5.5

    5. Mavric Marco
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      No chance - could even be 6.0 like Koscielny

      1. andy85wsm
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I completely forgot about Koscielny somehow.

        As the rest of the guys say he could be £5.5 - that could be nice too.

        1. Mavric Marco
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Ha! ๐Ÿ™‚

          Yea 5.5 would be nice

          1. tm370
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            esp with his goal scoring abilities

  17. EXODIA
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    GK: Butland

    DEF: Bellerin - Fuchs - Stones

    MID: Ayew - Eriksen - Tadic - Fletcher

    FWD: Ibra - Aguero - Ighalo

    BENCH:
    Boruc - Taylor - Capoue - Paredes

    Please rip this apart and tell me what changes you think need to be made if any?!

  18. crxtchplz
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    RMT? Thinking of shedding some of these...

    Foster, Heaton

    Valencia, Stones, Dann, Friend, Robertson

    Feghouli, Firmino, Mkhitaryan, Gradel, Eriksen

    Lukaku, Kane, Negredo

    1. Hykkerten
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      No Kun.. Risky business

  19. Henrzd
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    good to go??

    De Gea (Jakupovic)

    Dawson Naylor Friend (Francis Parades)

    Hazard Mane Siggy Redmond (Fletcher)

    Aguero Ibrahimovic Carroll

  20. Baines on Toast...
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Unhealthily excited over the team news page being updated...

    1. Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Koscielny is Holding Xhaka's Coq

      1. El-Kloppico
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Seaman.. Hope to read your Fan's view articles this year around also..
        Was my favorite last year ๐Ÿ˜‰
        Hope it will be ready by tomorrow ๐Ÿ™‚

        1. Bolivian Seaman
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Ok, you won't learn that much. warning of chelsea defence, ayew leaving may be good for siggy

  21. Alisson WondHaaland
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    So ive seen many people that before had Kunbra switching Kun + Rooney, Kane or Costa. Have i missed something?

    1. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      they have missed something ๐Ÿ˜‰

  22. Milner4eva
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Firmino's first 2 fixtures are good, he seems to be almost nailed to start every game, and he's a heavy hitter priced at only 8.5

    If you don'T have him, why not?

    1. Ha.
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I'm afraid of success

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Guess thats why you're on here.

    2. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Think its due to so much competition

      Mane
      Coutinho
      Lallana

    3. Emp
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      im going him and mane ๐Ÿ˜ฎ they both such good options

  23. M.I.A.
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Hi all, thoughts on the below please - any advice would be much appreciated

    Foster/Jaku
    Valencia/Williams/Stones/Friend/Amat
    Hazard/Sanchez/Lamela/Capoue/Ramirez
    Aguero/Vardy/Gray

  24. Mr Jingles
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Tough call?

    A. Tadic>Townsend>Vardy
    B. Ali>Redmond>Costa

  25. Piggs Boson
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Evans 3.2ppg, 1 goal, 1 assist, 11 bonus, 2590 minutes - Age: 28
    McAuley 2.9ppg, 1 goal, 0 assists, 5 bonus, 3060 minutes - Age: 36

    Not even close...

    1. TheBusDriver
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Picking a West Brom defender? lol

      1. Piggs Boson
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        You going without Aguero?

  26. FOR-ME-NO
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    apart from hazard , who s d safest pick from chelsea attacking midfield?

  27. Zizou
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    trying to pick two 5.5m defenders outta these lot

    valencia shaw coleman baines fuchs VVD

    1. Alisson WondHaaland
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      VVD and Coleman, but if u have williams too then go for Shaw

  28. Judeksi
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Which one?

    A) Tadic & Capoue
    B) Redmond & Feghouli

    I want to have good midfielders for GW2, Tadic & Capoue both face tricky opponents on GW2 but WHU has nice home match againd BOU then.

  29. RVP20
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Please RMT

    Foster (Jaku)
    Valencia - Stones - Friend (Pieters - Amat)
    Hazard - Firmino - Tadic - Townsend (Capoue)
    Aguero - Ibrahimovic - Gray

    Any advice would be appreciated.