Moving Target
11 August 2016 2600 comments
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Having bolstered Man City’s attacking options with the acquisition of Nolito and Leroy Sane, new manager Pep Guardiola moved to strengthen his defence this week with the signing of Everton defender John Stones for a fee believed to be Β£47.5 million.

The 22-year-old England international put pen to paper on a six-year deal at the Etihad, and speaking to the club’s official website, revealed his happiness at joining City, and his desire to earn his place in Guardiola’s starting XI:

“I’ve obviously seen what’s going on here at the Etihad, it’s an ambitious club with a great manager so I can’t wait to get stuck in and help achieve the goals. I know it will be tough getting a place in this team but I’m determined to become the best player I can be and help us to success.”

The History

Stones came through Barnsley’s youth set-up, progressing all the way through to the first team. He made his professional debut in a 4-0 defeat to Reading in March 2012, and managed 28 appearances in all competitions for the Tykes, scoring one goal.

In January 2013, Everton paid Barnsley a fee reportedly in the region of Β£3 million to secure the young defender’s services, although he had to wait until August 2013 to make his debut for the Toffees, coming in a 2-1 against Stevenage in the League Cup.

Stones’ Premier League debut eventually came in a 1-1 draw against Stoke in January 2014, and he enjoyed a strong second half of the campaign, racking up a further 20 league appearances.

Whilst injury curtailed Stones’ progress during the first half of the 2014/15 season, he ended the campaign as a regular starter, and totaled 23 league appearances, scoring one goal.

Last season, the cultured centre-back was Phil Jagielka’s regular partner at the heart of the Everton defence, clocking up 33 appearances, although he failed to register any attacking returns. His individual performances did come under some criticism, though, with Everton’s disappointing campaign eventually leading to the departure of Roberto Martinez.

Stones represented England at Under 19, Under 20 and Under 21 levels, making 17 appearances in total, before earning a senior debut off the bench in a 3-0 win over Peru in May 2014. He was included in Roy Hodgson’s squad for Euro 2016, but was one of only two outfield players, along with Ross Barkley, not to feature in the tournament. He currently has 10 international caps but has yet to score for his country.

The Prospects

With Vincent Kompany expected to miss the opening weeks of the season due to a thigh injury, Stones will fancy his chances of going straight into the starting XI for Saturday’s season opener against Sunderland.

Guardiola started with Aleksandar Kolarov and Fernando in central defence in City’s final pre-season match against Arsenal, but it could be that Stones partners Nicolas Otamendi against the Black Cats. The England man has got plenty of minutes under his belt playing for the Toffees during pre-season, and should physically at least be ready for the big kick-off.

Furthermore, Eliaquim Mangala has not been included in City’s Champions League squad, which indicates the Frenchmen will likely be allowed to leave before the transfer window closes.

Guardiola favours using a four-man backline, so when Kompany does return to full fitness, it could leave Stones and Otamendi battling for one position. Given the investment made in the England international, he may be the one to keep his place providing he settles quickly in Manchester.

The major positive for Stones’ prospects is the fact Guardiola places so much emphasis on his defenders initiating attacks through their distribution, as he explained last month:

β€œNormally central defenders are strong in the air and aggressive. But we need to have a good build-up to create easy passes in the midfield so they can create good passes for the strikers. I believe when the ball goes from the central defender to the striker as quickly as possible, it comes as quickly as possible back.”

Crucially, amongst all defenders who played over 1000 minutes last season, Stones was ranked fourth for completed passes with 88%, illustrating his capability as a ball-playing defender.

Comparing the underlying statistics of Stones, Kompany and Otamendi from last season, it’s the Argentine who comes out on top. The former Valencia defender averaged a tackle every 21.4 minutes, far superior to both Kompany (45.9) and Stones (48.1). He held a similar advantage in terms of interceptions too, managing one every 27 minutes, better than both Stones (52.4) and Kompany (53.9).

The only significant area where Stones led the way amongst the trio came via blocks, averaging one every 83.9 minutes, far better than both Otamendi (215.9) and Kompany (310).

Otamendi could hold the edge for CBI, then, although the fact Kompany only managed 13 starts last season and was generally far from his best is perhaps not indicative of what we can expect if he can stay fit for a prolonged period of time.

The big factor in Stones’ favour from a Fantasy perspective is the fact he’s priced at 5.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), whereas both Kompany and Otamendi are valued at 6.0.

That disparity is likely to be one of the main reasons why Stones’ ownership has soared to 27% since the move was confirmed, and if City can equal or better the 16 clean sheets they accrued last season, the former Barnsley man could provide fantastic value providing he’s a regular starter.

As highlighted by this recent in-depth article on Guardiola’s tactics, the signs are promising:

β€œGuardiola has had the best defensive record in every league campaign of his career at Barcelona and Bayern Munich. Tellingly, the most goals he’s ever conceded came in the first of those seven seasons and the fewest came in his last one with Bayern”.

Stones does, however, lack any real goal threat, having only averaged an attempt every 366.9 minutes last term. That was far worse than Otamendi (104) and Kompany (112.7), both of whom have scored at decent number of goals throughout their careers.

City’s fixtures over the first six Gameweeks (SUN, sto, WHM, mun, BOU, swa) are fairly mixed though, so while Stones may offer tremendous value now playing for a side expected to compete for the title, it may take Guardiola time to get his methods across to his players – something that won’t be helped by Stones’ late arrival should he be thrust straight into the action.

Over the course of the season then, there’s every expectation that Stones could develop as a viable FPL asset under Guardiola’s guidance.

With a number of similarly priced options such as Robert Huth, Michael Keane, Ramiro Funes Mori, Alberto Moreno, Steve Cook, Patrick van Aanholt and Craig Dawson offering significantly greater goal threat, though, the City new boy may need to up his attacking output to offer exceptional value.

Further Reference

John Stones Wikipedia

John Stones Transfer Markt Page

John Stones You Tube

  1. SAY SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A) Tadic + Gray

    B) Townsend + Long + 1m?

    1. The Hindu Monkey
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      • 11 Years
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      a

    2. TheSteel
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      A for me. Not sold in townsend. paredew rotates wingers. They barely make 90min.

    3. Kevin Twine
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      A

      1. tm370
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        A

  2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusβ…
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    Beric???

    You have mail. Urgent!!!

    1. FFFrog
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      How's life Doos? Long time no see!

      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusβ…
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        OK. Thank you. You alright? πŸ™‚

        1. FFFrog
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          Good thanks!

  3. Rupert The Horse
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    Never seen Cook bat at this rate before.

    1. itsmilks
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      he's been rattling along like this all series

      1. Rupert The Horse
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        Yes, but he's been getting faster each game, he keeps breaking his fastest 50 record, interested to see how fast he gets it today.

    2. Costa's Counsellor
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      His rate has been excellent all series to be fair.

      I'm not sure if it's deliberate but it's nice to see.

      1. Rupert The Horse
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        9 years, 4 months ago

        It has, but not this quick.

  4. There Can Be Only One
    • 14 Years
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    Last Decision To Make

    A) Jakoupovic, Alli, Capoue

    B) Heaton, Redmond, Deulofeu

    Rest of the team
    Foster -
    Shaw - Stones - Baines - Amat - Friend
    Firmino - KDB - Ibe
    Aguero - Gray - Vardy

    1. Energetics
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      A

    2. TheSteel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Dont like either of the options tbh, but A without Alli. Go with Eriksen

  5. MS
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Last changes, good to go?

    Foster / Jakupovic

    Stones / Shaw / Evans / Friend / Amat

    Alexis / Hazard / Lamela / Ramirez / Hojbjerg

    Kun / Costa / Long

  6. FFFrog
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    RMT
    Foster Heaton
    Valencia Stones Friend Kone Amat
    Hazard Firmino Tadic Delofeu Capoue
    Aguero Kane Carroll

    1. Jazz!
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Kane > Rooney. C'mon! The lad is on pens, set pieces, Mourinho favourite, captain of United, beautiful assist last game

      πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰ πŸ˜‰

      1. FFFrog
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Yes and gives me 2m to upgrade Deulofeu to Pogba πŸ˜‰

    2. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      No Rooney 😯 . Such a casual

      1. FFFrog
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        See above πŸ˜‰

        1. Adam West - Team Serbia for…
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          πŸ™‚

  7. Energetics
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    9 years, 4 months ago

    Been trying to work out how to get Vardy into my team rather than Mahrez.

    A. Mahrez and Gray
    B. Redmond and Vardy

    I had been put of B because I already have Tadic who I want to keep, I see him as a long term option. But realising I should judge every player on who I think can score more not 'coverage' so surely B is the better option?

    What are your opinions? A or B?

  8. john25
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Hey guys, Evans or McAuley?

    1. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
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      McAuley

    2. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Evans

    3. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
      • 12 Years
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      JEvans

    4. Bolivian Seaman
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      9 years, 4 months ago

      evans,mcauley is 36

    5. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      McAuley obviously

  9. Bobmarley121
    • 11 Years
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    Hazard or vardy

    1. JÆKS ⭐
      • 11 Years
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      Strange dilemma but Hazard

    2. athreya
      • 13 Years
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      Both

    3. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
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      Haz

      1. Bobmarley121
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Ok vardy or costa

        1. UnitedFan
          • 10 Years
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          Vardy

    4. Gooner97
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Vardy

  10. JÆKS ⭐
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Is Costa a safe bet with these Lukaku to Chelsea rumours going on?

    Prefer him over Vardy actually if there was no risk

    1. Bobmarley121
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I don't think it's gonna happen to save money I would get vardy or Costa over ibrahimovic and kane

      1. JÆKS ⭐
        • 11 Years
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        Not tempted at all by Zlatan and Kane so it will indeed be Costa or Vardy. Just think that Costa will perform like he did in his first season, a great option at 9.5 if he is certain to stay. Would be a real bummer if he would leave Chelsea gw 2. Also have Mahrez so some risk there as well

  11. BellyKlopp
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    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Fischer or Ibe?

  12. Ber2k
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/team-news/

    The early bird...

    1. jmcclory123
      • 12 Years
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      Fat chance! 5.5m minimum.

    2. il Brutto
      • 12 Years
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      No chance, 6.0 I reckon.

  13. Tiamani Warrior
    • 12 Years
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    Foster or Valdes first 8 GWs?

    1. Costa in Wengerland
      • 14 Years
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      Foster

      1. Tiamani Warrior
        • 12 Years
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        Boro seem to have had a better preseason and both have similarly good opening fixtures?

    2. Gooner97
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      Foster

  14. athreya
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    Before picking player I think it is better to analyse which teams will start well and otherwise. It helps to clarify the choices.

    Personally I think this season Leicester, Stoke, West Brom and Southampton are going to be poor starters while West Ham, Spurs, United and Arsenal will have good starts. Not sure about Pool, Chelsea, City and Everton. My two bits for whatever it is worth.

    1. Boris Bodega
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      Arsenal with 3 injured CBs are not what I would call a safe bet, but I do hope they can start well for a change.

      1. athreya
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        Ok I think they will score goals. But yes defence is an issue. Expect 4 points from first two games. Maybe wishful thinking.

    2. Kuqi Monster
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      Leicester play Hull and Swansea in their first 3...

    3. Andy_Social
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yeh, with the lack of investment and defensive crisis, I don't see Arsenal setting off on fire. I thought Leicester were not far short of sharpness in the Commie Shield - maybe avoid the defence, but Vardy looks his usual dangerous self.

  15. ⚽️ Dingo ⚽️
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    9 years, 4 months ago

    Does anyone actually comment on the article written?

    1. UnitedFan
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

    2. Costa's Counsellor
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Usually TM first comment.

  16. ddande
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Please RMT

    Foster(Jaku)

    Azpi-Valencia-Stones (Evans,Amat)

    Sanchez-Hazard-Redmond-Ramirez (Capoue)

    Kun-Vardy-Gray

    1. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Good but not sold on Ramirez.

    2. TheSteel
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      9 years, 4 months ago

      Thats a solid team 7.5/10

    3. ddande
      • 14 Years
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      Thanks! yeah, concerned about him too, but for the price can't think of anyone else

  17. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Which one..

    A - Rooney + Lamela

    B - Gray + Martial

    1. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Gray + Lamela. Seriously.

      1. GoonerByron
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Lamela over a forward reclassified as a mid who got 11 goals in his debut season under a defensive Van Gaal?

        1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
          • 12 Years
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          πŸ™‚
          Ppl are so funny on here sometimes...

        2. athreya
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          The same forward/mid who couldn't get into a middling French team. I won't look beyond Zlatan, Miki and Pogba from United.

  18. Costa in Wengerland
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Any one going with Wally here?

    1. GoonerByron
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Cazorla at the moment.. Tempted by Wally though

    2. athreya
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He won't start. Iwobi, Ramsey, Alexis and Cazorla will be the front four I think.

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Walcott vs Moreno does sound rather enticing doesn't it?

        1. Rupert The Horse
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Not to him.

        2. athreya
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Frankly don't understand why Walcott is still in the team. Should have been sold. Give me Ox/Joel/Gnabry any day over him. I guess there is some merit in playing him as a striker against teams with high defensive line. Overall he is just a waste of space.

          1. Boris Bodega
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            His goal the other day was good, but yes I agree, last season was atrocious. Perhaps it was baby brain. He has stated that he now wants to play on the wing.

            My personal favourite is Campbell for the right wing, but I guess Ramsey will sneak his way there.

      2. Costa in Wengerland
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers

    3. Costa's Counsellor
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Repost from 1 year ago?

      1. Costa in Wengerland
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        πŸ˜‰

  19. Costa's Counsellor
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Stars and øs everywhere...

    1. Rupert The Horse
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Sounds like you've been in a fight.

  20. MS
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Costa or Rooney?

    Got Kun, MID is Alexis / Hazard / Lamela / Ramirez

  21. Jay_
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Cook dropped πŸ˜€

      1. Rupert The Horse
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Voice should be a little deeper now.

    • EWH2020
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Please RMT. Left £1.0m ITB to upgrade Vardy to Kane for GW2.

      Foster, Jaku
      Shaw, Stones, Friend, Kone, Amat
      Hazard, Firmino, Alli, Redmond, Capoue
      Vardy, Aguero, Gray

      1. AJ24
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Looking similar to mine, strong in my opinoon...

    • Nap
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      A. Antonio + townsend
      B. Ayew + evans

      Thx!

    • Bøwstring The Carp
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Anyone on here not going Aguero (C) GW1?

      1. Boris Bodega
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Sorry if I am repeating myself a bit, but I haven't even got him in my team, I have Vardy captain.

        1. tm370
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Bold - if he gets injured like last season it is worth it.

          If not, hide behind the sofa.

          1. Boris Bodega
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            I think he will do well this season, I'm just waiting to jump on with my WC if he starts firing from the off.

      2. Andy_Social
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        He's in my team but I fancy Vardy for a brace against HuLOL

        1. Arctic_Orangutans
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Going vardy brace

    • Alan Hansen's Emu
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      When do we expect Kompany return?

    • Bolivian Seaman
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Is it possible to be unlucky for a whole season? My baseball season is so unlucky; a player hit a home run and the match got abandoned πŸ™‚

      1. Cpt Crunch Scott talent
        • 12 Years
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        πŸ™‚

    • EXODIA
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      GK: Butland

      DEF: Bellerin - Fuchs - Stones

      MID: Ayew - Eriksen - Tadic - Fletcher

      FWD: Ibra - Aguero - Ighalo

      BENCH:
      Boruc - Taylor - Capoue - Paredes

      Please rip this apart and tell me what changes you think need to be made if any..

    • AJ24
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I think I am there with my team..

      Heaton, Foster,

      Friend, Stones, Shaw, Morgan, Amat

      Tadic, Barkley, Firminio, Alli, Fischer

      Aguero, Vardy, Gray

      RMT out of 10 please..

      1. qreen qoblin
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        That mid so weak πŸ™‚

    • Haydenmoncrieff
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Any advice appreciated

      Best mid combo with Sanchez?
      Have Aguero, vardy, gray up top
      A) Barkley, Firmino, Redmond or other 6-6.5 mid
      B) hazard, Lamela, Ramirez
      C) Tadic, Firmino, Townsend/ bolaise

      1. AJ24
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I like A