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After strengthening in midfield and attack with the signings of Joe Allen and Wilfried Bony this summer, Stoke looked to shore up their defence with the capture of Bruno Martins Indi on a season-long loan from Portuguese side Porto.

Speaking to the club’s official website about the 24-year-old Dutch international, Potters boss Mark Hughes suggested the centre-back will immediately be thrust into action following his arrival on deadline day:

“We have been aware of Bruno for quite some time now, as many other clubs around Europe have been. He is a very accomplished defender who has a lot of experience at a very high level, including playing for Holland during their good run at the 2014 World Cup. He is a guy that we feel can come in and make an immediate impression, because he boasts all the attributes needed to perform at the top level of the Premier League.”

The History

While Martins Indi was born in Portugal, his family moved to Rotterdam, Holland when he was just three-year-old, and after starting out at Spartaan ’20, he joined Feyenoord’s academy at the age of 13.

He progressed all the way to the first-team, making his professional debut in a Europa League tie against Gent in August 2010, with his league debut coming against Heracles three days later.

Martins Indi gained plenty of first-team experience during the 2010/11 season, and become a regular starter the following year, playing at both centre-back and left-back.

He remained a mainstay of the Feyenoord defence over the next two seasons and, during his four years as a member of the first-team squad, racked up 102 league appearances, producing five goals and three assists.

On the back of an impressive display at the 2014 World Cup, Martins Indi moved to Porto for a fee of €7.7 million, and enjoyed a strong first season at the club, playing 24 league matches, scoring two goals – playing nearly all of his football in central defence.

He chalked up another 23 league appearances last term, again predominantly as a centre-back, and also played Champions League football for a second consecutive season.

Martins Indi chose to represent Holland at international level, and after totalling 27 appearances at Under 17, Under 19 and Under 21 levels, scoring two goals, he made his senior debut in a 4-2 defeat to Belgium in August 2012. He has played 31 times for his country, scoring twice, although he hasn’t featured since September 2015.

The Prospects

With Martins Indi having played most of his football at centre-back over the past few years, and Stoke allowing Philipp Wollscheid to join Wolfsburg on a season-long loan, it appears the Dutch international will start alongside Potters captain Ryan Shawcross in central defence.

Geoff Cameron was utilised at centre-back in the 1-0 defeat to Everton in Gameweek 3, but is likely to provide back-up in the position, along with Marc Muniesa.

Handed a valuation of 5.0 in Fantasy Premier League (FPL), the centre-half hasn’t boasted too much of a goal threat, scoring on six occasions over the past five seasons.

Having conceded six times in the first three Gameweeks, the joint-worst record along with Liverpool and Watford, there was clearly a need to strengthen what has been a leaky defence – particularly in the absence of the injured Jack Butland, who could be out for up to 10 weeks after undergoing ankle surgery.

Martins Indi, who possesses good strength and reasonable pace, should certainly provide an upgrade on Wollscheid and the Dutch international’s partnership with Shawcross certainly has the potential to strengthen the overall prospects for all members of the Potters backline.

That should boost the appeal of Stoke defenders as they prepare for a favourable upcoming schedule from Gameweek 5 onwards (cpl, WBA, mun, SUN, hul, SWA).

Nonetheless, whilst Martins Indi’s arrival looks promising for the Potters, his FPL cost is something of a deterrent. Instead, left-back Erik Pieters – at a price of 4.5 – is a far more budget-friendly option, whilst Glen Johnson – now down to 4.9 – should offer a greater threat down the flank once recovered from a thigh complaint.

Further Reference

Bruno Martins Indi Wikipedia

Bruno Martins Indi Transfer Markt Page

Bruno Martins Indi You Tube

  1. The Legend Squad
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Can I have your views on what is a healthy amount of points hits to take throughout a season?

    We're only 3 weeks in and I've already taken a total of -8. Though both of those have been initial tinkers/injury fixes, I don't feel that is a sustainable rate over the whole season.

    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Don't take them unless you really have to.very rarely they pay off.

      1. Numb
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Disagree tbh. They don't have to pay off in one GW remember.

        1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Yer they can pay off. I'm very cautious with them though.unless I have injuries I very rarely take them these days.

    2. Robe Wan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I took -16 last season *looks smug*

      I think it's fine to take a few at the start up to Christmas while teams settle down, but mostly you're just losing points when we should be more patient

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Depends, some seem to do well taking lots of hits, others don't.

    4. Champ
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      It really depends on the changes your making as to whether they're worth it or not. But you're right that the rate you're taking them at is too much. A rough guideline for me over a season would be approx 20 points

    5. Jimmers
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      People have different approaches. I've taken an average of 28 in point hits over the last 5 seasons. Other people take more. Also depends if you're chasing or leading as the season progresses.

    6. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      There is no number. If a hit pays off it's all good, if it doesn't then it's obviously not good.

  2. JÆKS ⭐
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 3 months ago

    Giroud to troll all of us Sanchez or Ozil owners

    1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Hope so..he's front runner for my kun transfer

      1. JJO
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        This

      2. @persecuted_by_mods
          9 years, 3 months ago

          How certain are you that he'll start? I'd be very surprised if he does

          1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            I can't be certain but wenger loves him and only reason he not played was due to match fitness. I'd be very surprised if he didn't start him. He's only proper striker they have ..perez just arrived

    2. thepeen555
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Evening all, what's the gossip on different people going into their teams? Like any fancy snodgrass? Still going Costa? Not doing kaku?

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Considering Snodgrass if I need a cheap mid. Like the look of Costa and tempted by Lukaku.

    3. Lone Wolf FPL
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Kun + Townsend --> Costa + Ozil but make it tonight or wait till pressers to make sure that rest of team is ok?

    4. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Is Jonty on a wildcard?

      1. Slam
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I think so

      2. KingNidge
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Yep and James Collins is a part of it

    5. JJO
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      A) Lamela + Zaza
      B) Lanzini + Benteke

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        B

        1. JJO
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Thanks BF

      2. Robe Wan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Don't like either tbh

        1. JJO
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          But if u have to chose 1 😉 ?

          1. Robe Wan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Ugh b

            1. JJO
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Thank you
              I know it was hard

    6. BB-8
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Feeling a bit punty. Pick one-

      A. Ibra Benteke Lanzini
      B. Rooney Costa Antonio

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        A

    7. Horlicks esq.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Sanchez & Tekkers
      or
      Ozil & Costa

      1. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        ST

      2. JJO
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        ST

    8. Numb
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Bale on 14 points now

    9. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      I have Valencia, stones, friend, Pieters and Amat in my defence. Was going to bench Stones and Amat. Right decision?

      1. Robe Wan
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Can see the Manchester game being 0-0

        1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Hmmm, I can't see that. Reckon both teams will score.

          1. Robe Wan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            A mourinho team concede in a big game?

            1. Robe Wan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              *in england

            2. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              That's why I'm keeping Valencia in.

        2. TokyoRisingSun
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          It'll probably be 1-1

      2. TokyoRisingSun
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Yes

    10. Total Foot 5
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Best 2 Forwards to bring in pls to replace Aguero & Long? tks

      1. lukaka
      2 tekkers
      3 bony
      4 vardy'
      5 kane
      6 zaza

      **thinking 1 & 5 as kane now will have dembele. + both have fav fxt

      1. Champ
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        1/2 Prob the safest imo

        1. Total Foot 5
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          tks. why tekkers over kane? both fav fixt
          tek has remy to deal with

          1. Champ
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Kane simply hasn't threatened enough with his gametime / not enough shots / shots on target. Benteke is a different kind of player / more physical and I think he can hit the ground running

            1. Total Foot 5
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              fair enough. ill giv it a 2nd thot thx

    11. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Just seen lemela probably going to be benched.

      Thought it was too good to be true I'd only have kun and valencia to worry about

      1. Horlicks esq.
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Source me like Ketchup?

          1. Horlicks esq.
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Ok, cheers G!

            Looks like a one match thing. Love the 'Key man' label. I'll leave him in.

      2. TokyoRisingSun
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Ugh, reckon Antonio's a good replacement for Lamela?

        1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Not sure. If he stays in mid then yes..but will he?

    12. royals forever
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      If you were on WC now who would be your defender of choice from West Ham for the next few GWs (4 - 6)

      Any ideas would be welcomed

      1. Slam
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        I think Collins

      2. Netley Lucas
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Musuaku, but if you have Baines then maybe Collins.

        1. Netley Lucas
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          *Masuaku

        2. polis
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Errr, you do know you don't have to play players in their position, right?

          Why if you have Baines should you not have Masu ?

          1. Slam
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            He knows, he's giving good advice.
            Because you already spent the extra 0.5 over Williams maybe you shouldn't spend the extra 0.5 on Masuaku

            1. polis
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              0.4m, which for me doesn't buy you much in defence.

              I think Collins likely to get shifted with Reid and Ogbonna CBs. Masu nailed until Creswell is back and looking pretty attacking.

              Can ignore my terrible thought but there's my 2 cents.

    13. Slam
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Who is Mirallas' competition for a starting spot?

      1. polis
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        In the long run, someone who isn't injured.

    14. Krul Runnings
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 3 months ago

      Having considered all the most popular options for Kun replacement I'm still unsure.

      How confident would you guys be that Giroud starts this GW?

      1. @persecuted_by_mods
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Wenger doesn't usually change things when they're winning, I just can't see him starting. And if they get off to a good start and win I'd expect him to be benched for the following game too

      2. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Why are there games on January 2nd?

        1. Numb
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Why not?

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            It's a working day if I'm not mistaken. When was the last time there were 3pm kick offs on a working day? Usually on 1st Jan.

            1. Numb
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              You are mistaken

              1. Davido989
                • 15 Years
                9 years, 3 months ago

                Monday 2nd January is the substitute holiday. Never games on working days at 3pm.

        2. Robe Wan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          To keep the fun rolling

        3. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Always been new years day to my mind

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Yep, that's what I'm saying. New years (public holiday) is on Sunday, why would games be on a working day..

            1. Numb
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              You are mistaken!

            2. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Dunno mate.. bad memories of new years day ever since we got done 4-1 by QPR at Old Trafford 1992.. some chap called Denis Bailey scored a hat trick and i never heard of him since lol

        4. Netley Lucas
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          New Year's Day is a Sunday I think, so Monday will be a BH. Sat & Mon fixtures.

          1. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Yep you are right. Thanks..I booked annual leave today and said I'd be back on Monday 2nd Jan..oops!!

      3. FrankieTheGent
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Nolito assist

        1. Davido989
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Nolito vs Darmian..

      4. gudnodin
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        A : Lamela / sterling / Antonio / Hazard / king
        Ibra/Costa/Negredo
        B : Bolasie / Sterling / Payet / Hazard / king
        Ibra / Costa / Gray

        A or B guys ? wildcard active

        1. HurriKane
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          A

        2. polis
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          A without Lamela, King and Negredo.

      5. HurriKane
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 3 months ago

        Thoughts on doubling up on Lukaku Barkley?

        sun MID bou CPL

        Those fixtures are tasty. More chance of getting end of one of their returns.

        Eg would be frustrating if you own lukaku only for barkley to steal the show

        1. Slam
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Or Mirallas 😉

        2. @persecuted_by_mods
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Even more frustrating to see Mirallas take a million shots. Have Barkley myself and might still get Lukaku but it's very risky

            1. HurriKane
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Have Lukaku. contemplating about getting Barkley in

              Lukaku has high points potential as he is the target man nd most will try to feed him with higher

              Barkley could offer better value though

          • JJJ
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            I would only go for one till you see who is actually going to be getting the fpl points

            1. polis
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Was debating double up. Legit question, how many pens did Luk score last season? If he's off them, does that slightly or seriously diminish appeal?

        3. Holding Mee Bong
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Decent?

          Adrian
          Vertonghen Williams McCauley
          Ozil Hazard Sterling Antonio
          Costa Kane Defoe

          Pickford Pieters Hojberg 4.0

        4. Robe Wan
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          A) Deulofeu to Barkely -4

          B) bench deu and play stones (Vs Utd)

          1. Robe Wan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            I'm going A

            1. Robe Wan
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Good choice

              1. Robe Wan
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 3 months ago

                Cheers

                1. polis
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 3 months ago

                  Ha. Go Bark if you're willing to stick long term.

        5. Lestat
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Personally I feel Sam Allardyce is a good fit for England - the clubs he has managed are at the same level as England currently are at international level if were being totally honest- and his tactics are what England need, practical and simple, our players dont have the ability or the mindset to play tippy tappy football anyway - any thoughts?

          1. Robe Wan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            I agree

            Tbh I think we should play the English way and be proud of it

            Drop Rooney, tackle hard, out two big lads up top and scare the opposition. Can't be any worse than this bollox

          2. Wilshere Knowledge
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            What tactics?

          3. Davido989
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Sam is crap. Our setups are crap. Our youth systems are crap. And our development coaches are crap. 🙂

          4. HurriKane
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Hoof to Andy caroll should be the way to go 😉

        6. Slam
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          A) Giroud + Mirallas
          B) Lukaku + Mirallas
          C) Lukaku + Lamela
          D) Giroud + Lamela

          Already got Antonio

          1. Robe Wan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            A

          2. ekul the lokonga enthusiast
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            If U have arsenal cover then lukaku and lamela if not then Giroud and lamela

        7. Acquafresca
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          If Gray is not suspended for the weekend is it worth taking a hit to bring in Alexis or Ozil alongside whichever striker I bring in for Aguero?

        8. Lateriser 12
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          LADIES.

        9. FrankieTheGent
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Ok I give up. Why is non-one picking Payet? 9.4!

          1. Slam
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            Alexis is the new thang

          2. Slam
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            + you pretty much answered your question, too expensive for most

          3. Robe Wan
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            That's expensive for someone who never plays

          4. HurriKane
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 3 months ago

            He;s firmly in my team for now

            http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2016/09/03/moving-target-wilfried-bony-2/?hc_page=12#hc_comment_13984027

            every one will get him after his goal and assist against watford 😉

            1. HurriKane
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              cool kids will get him early

            2. FrankieTheGent
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 3 months ago

              Finally! Somone I can selectively agree with to support my confirmation bias.

        10. dunas_dog
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          Foster
          Valencia Baines Van Aanholt
          Hazard Ozil Sterling Lanzini
          Ibra Lukaku Benteke

          Pickford Capoue Souare Pieters

          Plan for Aguero would be Ibra to Aguero and Lukaku to form plate around 7.6. And look at Liverpool mid fielde for Sterling when fixtures improve.

          Think this is possibly too template but having looked at various permutations but looks best plan I think. Any changes you could suggest to improve?
          Thanks

        11. Phil Dagger ⭐
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 3 months ago

          international weeks ....shakes head