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Dugout Discussion – Tottenham vs Sunderland

18 September 2016 4862 comments
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A busy Sunday of football comes to its conclusion at White Hart Lane as Spurs and Sunderland go head-to-head in the 4.30pm kick-off.

The hosts’ 4-0 win over Stoke last weekend boosted out faith in the likes of Harry Kane and Dele Alli, yet their midweek Champions League loss to Monaco at Wembley suggests Mauricio Pochettino’s side have yet to hit top gear.

Christian Eriksen and Erik Lamela owners are left cursing their luck after the duo were named amongst the subs, with Mousa Dembele returning to the XI following a six-match suspension.

Certainly, the home side will be buoyed by their visitors’ second-half capitulation at home to Everton on Monday night.

The Black Cats have yet to win under David Moyes and, considering their current form, may well be lucky to avoid a repeat of the 4-1 reverse in the corresponding fixture last season.

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  1. rohan
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Jaku Pickford is tempting

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    1. George Agdgdgwngo
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Think I'm going for it

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    2. Can’t beat em so&hell…
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      If you had to only have one....

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    3. MTPockets
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Can facilitate a great attack (and rubbish defence). e.g.

        Pickford (Jaku)
        Evans - Holebas - Kelly (Amat, Kingsley)
        Sanchez - Firminho - Sterling - Antonio (Capoue)
        Aguero - Lukaku - Costa

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    4. aleksios
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Zlatan owners from the start and on wc now..keep or not?

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      1. Cecil The Lion
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Still not sure. But thinking of keeping.

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      2. George Agdgdgwngo
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Keep

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        1. Danstoke82
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Keeping for now. Leicester at H is last chance saloon though, might downgrade to Costa after

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          1. _Gunner
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            If you are keeping Zlatan then keep him till after STOKE H

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            1. Danstoke82
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Agreed

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      3. Fingerspitzengefühl
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        What has changed since you chose him to begin with? He's getting goals & assists at a steady pace

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        1. Zebblox
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Just hasn't looked good enough to justify his price for me. His assist today was very dubious and other than that I didn't really notice him. Seems to be better value elsewhere, for the time being at least

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          1. Ibracadabra
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            On WC and 50/50 for me. He is the standout (C) for week 7 at home against Stoke. He will get the service, Valencia/Rooney/Mik/Martial/Pogba/Mata/etc. can pick a pass. The issue is whether he's worth the 2.5m+ outlay over Lukaku for me.

            It basically comes down to Ibra/Snodgrass vs Lukaku/Sterling on my WC.

            Rest of mid - Sanchez.Firmino.Antonio.Capoue.

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      4. FPL Puppy
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Wondering that myself. Seeing a lot of people selling, but worried about his ownership. He was good against Watford, although he didn't get any service from the other players. Got an assist and was close to a goal, that's enough for me for still holding on.

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      5. Cooper123
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Selling because of the midfield he enables.

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      6. MTPockets
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Probably not. If do will have a very cheap 5th mid & play capoue.

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        • Can’t beat em so&hell…
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          I've cut.

          With all the good midfield options and with aguero essential - kept lukaku and shipped him.

          I think Man U are the most overrated team in the league...

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          1. Ibracadabra
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Even poor / overrated teams can provide decent fantasy options. See Mata (or even Di Maria) for long spells when United were poor and finished outside the Top 4... You are talking about arguably Europe's best out and out striker (Messi/Ronaldo forwards, but you get my point) of the past decade...

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        • Bleach †
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          think I'm ditching

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          1. Flynny
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Keeping for the next 2 home games.....then I'll see.

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      7. 824545201
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        After a terrible start to the season and an OR of 920k, i'm very excited about my WC team. Next weekend can't come soon enough.

        Pickford - Jaku
        Williams - Vertonghen - McAuley - Holebas - Amat
        Sanchez - Sterling - Firmino - Antonio - Capoue
        Aguero - Lukaku - Deeney

        The plan is to play 3-5-2 with Deeney on the bench until Capoue starts blanking, then change to a 3-4-3.

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        1. Can’t beat em so&hell…
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Very very similar.

          Like it (obviously).

          Playing deeney over Capoue

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          1. 824545201
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Deeney is always a point threat with the pens, but surely Capoue is unbenchable at the moment?

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        2. MTPockets
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Similar to mine too. Capoue creates a benching problem, but there are worse problems.

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            1. MTPockets
                9 years, 4 months ago

                ...problems to have, not problems with the team.

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          • Nicks93
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Coleman worth 0.4 over Williams?

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            1. Cecil The Lion
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Yes

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              1. Nicks93
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                Thanks

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          • TorresMagic™
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • Has Moderation Rights
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Applebonkers leading Mods League

            https://fantasy.premierleague.com/a/leagues/standings/12306/classic

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            1. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Jonty 24 point lead wiped out in a week by Mark 🙂

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            2. Hibbo
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Some right deadwood in there.

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          • GK
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            (A) Firmino, Bony
            (B) Snoddy, Lukaku (-4)

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            1. Bleach †
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              B) but I'd also want to have Firm in my team

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          • Pirlø's Pen
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Martin Kelly nailed whilst Souare is out?

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            1. I Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Looks like it.

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            2. Feed tha Sheep
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Wondering that myself tempting at 4.4

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          • Xuey
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            First season in FPL and I'm ranked 6537. Properly stoked! Some advice with my Aguero plan?
            Sterling -> Capoue
            Costa -> Aguero
            Or i could go a little more fancy and go
            Hazard -> Sanchez
            Costa -> Aguero
            Ozil -> Capoue
            Perhaps even Sterling -> Mane.
            I feel like the first option is the easiest but Hazard and Ozil have let me down the last few weeks :/

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            1. Xuey
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Sterling -> Firm my bad.

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            2. F4L
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              wouldnt be getting rid of sterling

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          • F4L
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Firmino back for next weekend right?

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            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Hopefully

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            2. andymck
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Yes

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          • Art Vandelay
            • 15 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Evening gents

            Any feedback on this potential WC? Thinking of going without Zlat as an anti-differential to try to kick start my season (will probably have the opposite effect 😆 )

            Defence/GK needs fine tuning I and should have enough cash to upgrade one of my keepers if price changes work out well.

            Pickford Jak

            Baines Walker Holebas Robertson Amat

            Sanchez Sterling Firmino Antonio Capoue

            Kun Lukaku Deeney

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            1. Bleach †
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Solid

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          • Pinky and Brain
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Jansen wagon anyone?

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            1. Bleach †
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Empty

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          • Scotty B
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Is KDB essential and is he rising in price tonight?

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            1. Kante Be Bothered
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              probably

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            2. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              I'm not sure anyone is essential but he is the best player in the league imo

              He is a certainty in my WC team

              Will rise like a tin of John West this week

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            3. Bleach †
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Not essential and not gonna rise

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              1. Bleach †
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                tonight*

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          • Kante Be Bothered
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Spell "dab" backwards you get Paul Pogba

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            1. TorresMagic™
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • Has Moderation Rights
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              First time I've seen that one.

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            2. FPL Puppy
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Ehm...

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          • Rex Lapis
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            A. Firmino Sterling Snodgrass
            B. Lallana Sanchez Fletcher (Capoue 4th mid)

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          • Can’t beat em so&hell…
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Pick one for a WC...

            A) Pickford
            B) Jaku

            ???

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          • VS10_
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Liverpool and Everton both play Tuesday so good chance there are press conferences tomorrow to give us some injury news.

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            1. I Member
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Think I'll hold off on my transfers until tomorrow then. Hopefully Haz doesn't fall.

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            2. how now brown cow
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Both will prob be rested anyway though - not sure it will tell us much,

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              1. VS10_
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                Well, the managers usually say who is available and who is not. Both might make the bench if fit.

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                1. how now brown cow
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 4 months ago

                  For League Cup? I doubt it.

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          • sully29
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Two of the most basic lessons I've learned from being on this site:

            1. Keep an eye on players' stats as they will give you an indication of who will start/stop getting points.
            2. Team structure is important.

            With that in mind, those who are picking Capoue as a fourth choice mid on their wildcards should be warned as (I think) he falls down on both those terms.

            I haven't seen Capoue's stats from today's game but the stats from the games before now all pointed to his goalscoring rate falling off. He had an unusually high conversion rate that seemed likely to drop back to a more reasonable level and a low amount of shots. Add in the fact that he has no set pieces (unlike Yaya from a few years ago) and everything pointed towards him overperforming to an unsustainable degree.

            In terms of team structure, his low price actually becomes a problem if/when his form drops off as replacing him will inevitably involve downgrading someone else with a second FT.

            I know people want him to be a genuine 4th mid option as he allows for so many heavy hitters elsewhere but, before you pin your wildcard on him performing regularly in the medium/long term, you should probably ask yourselves *how* he's going to do that.

            He's in form so feel free to play him. Just don't put yourself in a position where you have to do so week in and week out. He's a very good fifth mid, no more and no less. Imo, of course

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            1. FPL Puppy
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Wow, too much to read but you're probably right.
              With that said, he's still scoring and with those upcoming fixtures I simply cannot keep him on the bench. It hurts too much!!

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              1. Hibbo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                Too much to read?

                Why because you couldn't be bothered your lazy arse?

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                1. FPL Puppy
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 4 months ago

                  Yep, today I am very lazy. 🙂
                  But I still read it! And I also replied.

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            2. F4L
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              snoddy and capoue best way to go with 4th and 5th mids imo

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            3. 824545201
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Best option is a cheap third striker and playing Capoue in a 3-5-2 until he starts blanking. Allows you more cash for a more traditional fourth mid.

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            4. Nicks93
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              I disagree. Stats are good indicator but they do not really tell the story with Capoue since he just seems to time his runs right to get into scoring positions.

              Regarding the point of team structure, Capoue as 4th mid enables 1 more heavy hitter than without. If Capue underperforms a heavy hitter downgrade and Capoue upgrade is easy enough. Id rather have 4 big hitters with capoue doing nothing than 3 heavy hitter with a bolasie or snodgrass

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            5. Ibracadabra
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Think this is an excellent overview, but with his next 5 being Burnley, Bournemouth, Boro, Swansea, Hull, it's almost as if you can deal with him moving from your 4th to 5th slot in 5 weeks time, and plan for a switch then, while giving him a shot for the next 5 weeks.

              Personally, from a 4th mid, I would be happy with 3ppg-4ppg per game, that should be one of my worst scoring starting positions...

              So in the next 5 games, if he gets just 1 clean sheet and 1 goal, with only 1 bonus point, that is 3-2-2-8-2. 17 points over 5. Not amazing but not miserable. The question becomes what are the alternatives... It's a tough predicament surely, but I have some sour grapes here as have owned him all 5 weeks and all 44 points have been on my bench due to your exact line of reasoning.

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            6. Cracked Egg
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              This is the difference between reading stats and watching games. It's still a game of confidence at the end of the day...

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          • Count of Monte Hristo
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Contemplating activating my wildcard, mainly to get Agüero back in.

            I can't help that feeling like it won't be used that well due to things changing so frequently from week to week.

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            1. FPL Puppy
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Any other transfers you need to do? Or just to bring Aguero back in?
              This week could be very good to boost up your team value. 🙂

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          • Cecil The Lion
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            a) Koscielny, Payet, Deeney
            or
            b) Holebas, Snodgrass, Ibrahimovic

            Cheers 😀

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            1. Rolls-Royce
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              a

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            2. Stats Don\'t Lie
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              A

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          • Rolls-Royce
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Who would you rather keep?

            A. Zlatan
            B. Sanchez

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            1. mcgooie
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              B

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            2. sully29
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              B.

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            3. Cecil The Lion
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              a

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            4. Xuey
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              B.

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          • Flynny
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            How does this wildcard looking....exact cash.

            Had ibra since the start and giving him next 2 games....slightly worried on Valencia game time so going Shaw...

            Heaton jaku
            Shaw williams Evans holebas amat
            Sanchez firmino Antonio snoddy capoue
            Kun ibra deeney

            Comments appreciated....thanks

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            1. Rolls-Royce
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              no lukaka?

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              1. Flynny
                • 10 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                Can't have em all.....

                Would love him...but can't squeeze in

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            2. Coaly
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Considering pretty much the same but Kane over Ibra

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            3. Ibracadabra
              • 16 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Why worried re: Valencia game time? Shaw injury prone and Rojo available to play LB. Team looks good, pretty template for WC teams around here I think..

              The lack of Lukaku in a purple patch of course is tough but the benefit of Ibra/Kun should more than make up for not having Lukaku.

              Wish EVE had been awarded a penalty since the Baines miss/make. If they had and Lukaku is on them, he is a clear frontrunner in the Costa-Lukaku-Ibra race for me, with that extra cushion of 3-5 goals this year coming his way. BUT if Baines is still on them, Ibra still seems a bit more consistent to me in the long term...

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          • KOLASINA(C)
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Hazard->Sanchez
            A) do it now for -4
            B) do it for free next week

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          • jonnytaylor86
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            what couple will score more points over the course of the season?

            A) Mustafi and Redmond

            B) Jagielka and Lallana

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          • seanmcging
            • 16 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Crazy to do this for -8?

            Haz, Trekkers & Caz > Kun, Sterling & Tadic/William

            Original plan was a simple Costa to Kun, but think he's too good to drop now!!

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          • Bhau cha dhakka
            • 12 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Antonio or Firmino ?

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          • Danstoke82
            • 11 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            I've had a shocker of a GW and stupidly used my WC. Is -12 too much to carry out much needed surgery to my team?

            Already brought in Aguero and Firmino -4....

            Thinking of these as well, worth it?

            Valencia > Lovren which allows me to do Hazard > Sanchez for a total -12.

            I hate hits but my team is struggling?

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            1. The Legend Squad
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Definitely not - just chill. Things change

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            2. how now brown cow
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              I'm normally anti hits but for once Barkley & Defoe -> Lukaku & Capoue worked ok for me in the short term at least.

              I don't think it's worth it for the other 2 this week. Chelsea have a good record v Arsenal after all.

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              1. Danstoke82
                • 11 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                Cheers guys. Shall I just stop at -4 then and stop the rage transfers?

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                1. how now brown cow
                  • 11 Years
                  9 years, 4 months ago

                  I would.

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          • RAFA THE GAFFA
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Almost certainly going to wildcard this week!...

            Thinking of doing

            Stones+Hazard+Lamela+Nacho

            For

            Smith+Antonio+Sterling+Lakaku

            Thoughts??

            Just don't want to miss those 3 price rises that look like happening tonight 🙁

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            1. RAFA THE GAFFA
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Anyone help please?

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              1. The Enlightener
                • 12 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                If you are wildcarding, you might as well get them in if you are concerned about price right this moment. Then, you will have plenty of time to reconsider and make some moves, hopefully gaining the value earned in the process.

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          • Mull
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Up to 68k. I'd have preferred a much smoother path than falling outside the top 1m in GW2 but I can't complain.

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          • Marcin the Pole
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Hazard & Ibra -> Payet & Aguero worth a hit?

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          • Jamie_GAWA
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Who do you think will top the captaincy poll on FFS this week?

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            1. RᴀᴄɪɴɢTᴏᴀᴅ
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Aguero

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            2. Danstoke82
              • 11 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Aguero.

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            3. LotusNZ
              • 9 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Aguerooooooo

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            4. FPL Puppy
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Nobody, since the week will end in a couple of hours. 😉

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            5. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Aguero zzzzzzzzzzz

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            6. Respect My Authoritah
              • 12 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Capoue

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            7. Sánchez
              • 13 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Ibra should be, aguero will be

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