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18 September 2016 4862 comments
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A busy Sunday of football comes to its conclusion at White Hart Lane as Spurs and Sunderland go head-to-head in the 4.30pm kick-off.

The hosts’ 4-0 win over Stoke last weekend boosted out faith in the likes of Harry Kane and Dele Alli, yet their midweek Champions League loss to Monaco at Wembley suggests Mauricio Pochettino’s side have yet to hit top gear.

Christian Eriksen and Erik Lamela owners are left cursing their luck after the duo were named amongst the subs, with Mousa Dembele returning to the XI following a six-match suspension.

Certainly, the home side will be buoyed by their visitors’ second-half capitulation at home to Everton on Monday night.

The Black Cats have yet to win under David Moyes and, considering their current form, may well be lucky to avoid a repeat of the 4-1 reverse in the corresponding fixture last season.

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  1. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Seeing the fruits of this ownership tactic I'm using now

    3 green arrows, the only 1 red arrow was down like 7k places

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    1. KOLASINA(C)
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      What's the tactic?

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      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        You get 7 highly owned players and 4 differentials. This means if the highly owned players don't do well it won't hurt because many others have them. Then your differentials can come and save you, but if not it's no bother

        The tactic stays with the pack, yet tries to go higher than the pack at the same time. Many people just kill their team with 10 differentials and 1 "essential" pick and that's dangerous.

        I did a bad job of explaining but you get the idea

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        1. DeathAngel
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Who has 10 differentials?

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        2. Mull
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          It's too defensive for my liking. I think it's a good strategy for reaching the top 10k but if you want to go higher you've got to pick the best differentials or be more proactive than others. Constraining yourself because of ownership % isn't the way to win FPL.

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          1. PvA
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Ok @Mull

            Tell that to Matt who won the whole game using this tactic

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            1. Mull
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              My English wasn't clear in the post above. I meant that for his strategy to succeed he needs the best differentials and great captain choices. I think you've got more chance of getting to the top by taking larger risks and getting players before they have high ownership.

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              1. PvA
                • 9 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                Oh right, I see your point now. He generally says keep captain picks simple and go with the most popular choice.

                Once you get to the top 10k taking risks, you're much more likely to lose it just as quick as you got there (speaking from experience).

                I recommend ready Matt's article about it because it explains it much better than me: https://matthewmartyniak.wordpress.com/

                Go to the consistency is key part

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                1. Mull
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
                  9 years, 4 months ago

                  That strategy will be very good at maintaining a top 10k place but most people up there know what they are doing so you have to look harder for differentials to gain an edge.

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    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Does this mean you only own high ownership players?

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      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        No it's a mixture of 7 highly owned and 4 differentials

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    3. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      How big were the greens?

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      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Started at 250k ish in gw1 and now 120k

        It's a slow but sure tactic

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    4. @SirAustinDangerPowers
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      but wont that be difficult to keep up with in terms of transfers, coz once the WC is used up and lets say Ibra and Hazard before next week face massive transfer outs then ?

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      1. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        And the composition of say top 10k ownership changes as a certain players hit and their owners move up the ranks etc.

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        1. PvA
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Top 10k is full of casuals who are using their chips, not bothered about it

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      2. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I'll take Ibra out for the next highly owned player that I like

        Ibra won't fall much in ownership. The max I'd say is down to 40% and that's reaching. Still extremely high ownership

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    5. Jamie_GAWA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I'd rather ignore ownership and pick the players I think do will do best.

      That tactic only really works if there is lots of player highly owned which there isn't.

      I think it's more the fact that the highly owned players are doing well rather than your tactic being good.

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      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Not my tactic.

        Coutinho, Hazard Capoue literally have twice the ownership of Sanchez, De Bruyne and Sterling

        You saying "That tactic only really works if there is lots of player highly owned which there isn't" is crazy.

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        1. Jamie_GAWA
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          What's your transfers most likely going to be this week then?

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          1. PvA
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            Get Aguero in and Capoue 4th mid

            Both highly owned players to get that 7/4 ratio back

            Will see to my differentials after next week hopefully. Not happy with Redmond atm

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    6. tm245
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Interesting tactic. I'm trying to do the same with captaincy by owning the top 3-4 big hitters and then going with a premium differential with a nice fixture.

      Aguero will likely end this to some extent if the masses drop Zlatan and Aguero becomes the autocaptain.

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      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Never heard of that tactic, seems logical as you're covering your bases

        Would be tough to go against Aguero like you said

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        1. tm245
          • 14 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Once EO gets over say 125% for either one it will be hard, but for a few glorious weeks owning both and captaining someone else was a fun way to play.

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          1. PvA
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            I never play with (c) choice because it is possible to end in tears and there is a very fine line. I enjoyed getting Payet in who I considered a differential in the last 2 weeks

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  2. Davido989
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    If I was on a WC, I'd have Slimani this week.

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    1. FPL Puppy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      May I ask, why?

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      1. Marcin the Pole
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Was fantastic on Saturday to be fair. Linked play brilliantly, worked hard and got himself into the box to score two real poacher's goals. Could be a great pick.

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      2. Davido989
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Decent stats. Has a really good header on him. Bailly & Smalling lost out on several headers today.

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        1. Bleach †
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          rather Deeney though

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  3. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    OR check 123

    120k

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    1. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      17,737

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    2. Marcin the Pole
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1.1m. Very poor start

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      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Plenty of time left

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    3. F4L
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      204K

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    4. Pinky and Brain
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Doesn't matter at this stage

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    5. Cojiro
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      11k

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    6. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      5k

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      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        You got 114 points last week woahhh

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        1. Oven Glover
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Minus 20

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    7. Bleach †
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      98k

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    8. FPL Puppy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1,568,866

      Beat that.

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      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Lol, plenty of time still

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    9. Henryyy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      90k

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    10. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      64K (came in from 460K this week).

      Have a history of poor starts and clawing my way back, so hope this bodes well for this season.

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      1. Jamie_GAWA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Tend to make lots of captain punts or play it safe and steady?

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        1. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          safe and steady usually, my main league is a H2H one, always better to stay safe long term in that i think.

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    11. Blue&White85
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1.2m mainly due to a shocking first 3 weeks. Gradually recovering.

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      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Plenty of time to turn it around

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    12. Zebblox
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      11k

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    13. Gravless wonder
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      98,100, up from 953,461 two weeks ago so anything is possible

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  4. KOLASINA(C)
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Hazard->Sanchez
    A) do it now for -4
    B) do it for free next week.

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    1. FPL Puppy
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Will you lose value on him if he drops to 10.1?

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      1. KOLASINA(C)
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        No

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  5. For Fuchs Sake
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Costa Lukaku and Kun not allowing Sanchez/Haz or KdB

    or

    Lukaku Kun and Deeney, allowing Sanchez/Haz or KdB

    Thoughts??

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  6. F4L
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Holebas best 4.5 mil def?

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    1. Cojiro
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yes imo

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    2. Swan - Villa Proud
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yrs

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  7. Rolls-Royce
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    @TM, Selling Ibra?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Not today 😛

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  8. Cecil The Lion
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Walker or go safe with Vertonghen?

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    1. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Not sure Vert is that much safer. Think they'll all get a rest in turn.

      Toby and Dier played CBs today, Could easily do that again with Rose or Davies to give Vert a rest.

      I'd go Walker.

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      1. Cecil The Lion
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cheers, HNBC

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    2. Bleach †
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Toby only safe Spurs def imo

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      1. Differentiator
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Lloris

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        1. Bleach †
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          he's a goalie 😉

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  9. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Anyone else know about the "creep tactic" by former FPL winner Matt Martyniak?

    Using it and it's working so far

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    1. Cecil The Lion
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      What's that

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      1. John Nerdelbaum
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        listen to radiohead?

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        1. sully29
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Generally my FPL experience is more "Let Down" than "Creep".

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    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      No idea. Can you explain it?

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    3. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      yeah, it's a secret

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    4. Jubilanus / BSC Small Boys …
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      https://matthewmartyniak.wordpress.com/

      7 safe high ownership picks, 4 diffs. creep up the rankings.

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      1. PvA
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Yeah that's the one, top tactic. Working great for me atm

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  10. Kno
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    downgrade one between haz and ozil to bring back the kun.

    who would you prefer to drop? Both not really performing atm

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    1. I Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Hazard. Ozil better fixtures.

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      1. Cojiro
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        This

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  11. Ser Davos
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Hazard to Sterling/Firmino for -4?

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    1. Cojiro
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Not for hit no

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  12. Swan - Villa Proud
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    ML leader is on 319 and 7.5K OR and he's never owned Ibra Hes a tremendous player to have in your team but he's not essential imo

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    1. I Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Leader of mine is on 313. Hasn't owned Ibra or Aguero.

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      1. Swan - Villa Proud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        No THATS impressive 🙂

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    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yep. Nobody is essential really, some players just make things easier.

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  13. rowingtech09
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    How's this WC looking?

    Foster - Jaku
    Holebas - J. Evans - Kelly - Amat - 4.0
    Sanchez - Capoue - Antonio - Sterling - Barry
    Ibra - Costa - Kun

    The defense is lightweight but a lot of heavy hitters up front. I think it's silly to go without Ibra just because Man Utd. have had a bad couple of weeks, he will consistently score goals. Costa has also been incredibly consistent although there is the YC issue. Not sure why all the fuss about Firmino, yes Liverpool are scoring a lot of goals but his underlying stats aren't that great.

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    1. Salah’s Sonnet
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      not for me i'm afraid, defence needs to be better, can't rely on points purely from attackers.

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    2. I Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Firmino's stats are very good.

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  14. royals forever
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Help needed please

    Given their midfield's current form and their next few fixtures who is the best Arsenal MF to have if can't afford Sanchez

    Any ideas would be welcomed

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    1. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      wally

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  15. Damsko
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Just activated my Wild Card, third draft! Still 0.3 left in the bank!

    Can someone please RMT? Thanks!

    Foster (Jakupovic)

    Baines Holebas McAuley (Cedric)(Amat)

    Lamela Mahrez Sterling (C) Sanchez Capoue

    Aguero Lukaku (Diomande)

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    1. The Gambler.
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      you left Lamela in there

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    2. Cojiro
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I'd get rid of Lamela and Cedric (poor fixtures)

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    3. 824545201
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      You really need some Liverpool midfield coverage, rest is ok.
      Also, get rid of Cedric.

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      1. Damsko
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks! Changed it, so Cedric and Lamela out! Still have 1.5 in the bank, so that gives me options!

        Foster (Jakupovic)

        Baines Holebas McAuley (Stones)(Amat)

        Lamela Coutinho Sterling (C) Sanchez Capoue

        Aguero (C) Lukaku (Diomande)

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  16. Dedalus1
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    on WC: Holebas, Capoue, Deeney

    Is triple Watford mad?

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    1. Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Template

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    2. 824545201
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Not if you bench one of Deeney/Capoue.

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  17. Danstoke82
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Is Hazard dropping in price?

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  18. Runaway
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    What would you do with my team below:

    A) WC
    B) Ibra -> Kun
    C) Ibra + Hazard -> Kun + Mane for -4 ( save some money for further improvements)
    D) Ibra + Lamela -> Kun + Mane for -4
    E) Other (Please advise)

    Foster Heaton
    Valencia* Stones* Souare* Friend* Amat
    Hazard Payet Lamela* Redmond* Capoue
    Ibra* Lukaku Rondon
    3,3 ITB

    * Absolutely not in the WC team

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  19. semiconductor
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Sorry for repost but didnt get a single comment

    Took a hit for that team. Please tell me ur opinion. I need it to either WC or keep it for now.

    Foster jak
    Valencia morgan stones amat kingsley
    Sanchez sterling snodgrass zaha capoue
    Kun ibra lukaku

    Will plsy 2 of the 3 cheap mids every week.

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    1. dogtanion
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      nice team as it is there

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      1. semiconductor
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Thank you for your reply. So nothing serious there until later?

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    2. Cojiro
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      You're done

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      1. semiconductor
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I really appreciate your reply. So this mid is not soo weak?

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  20. Salah’s Sonnet
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Sully, did you go through with you moves of Ibra + Hazard > Aguero + Firmino?

    just i'm looking at the exact same moves, confident this is good? feels right surely doesn't it?

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    1. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Will leave it as late as possible to pull the trigger but yeah, that's the firm plan atm.

      Makes sense to me. Could easily argue it's an upgrade on both counts given Chelsea/Liverpool fixtures.

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      1. Salah’s Sonnet
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cool cheers man, yeah i agree, it's a tough choice between Firm or Mane for me, was it price that made you choose Mane or would you of opted for Mane if money allowed? Firmino the better choice regardless ya reckon?

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  21. Still Unsure
      9 years, 4 months ago

      What would you do?

      A) Ozil, Lamela, Lukaku -> Sterling, Snoddy, Kun
      B) Ozil, Lamela, Ibra -> Sterling, Firmino, Kun
      C) Hazard, Lamela, Ibra -> Sterling, Mane, Kun

      Options A&B leave me with no Arsenal coverage. A also means no Everton coverage. In C Mane could also be Firmino - haven't decided on those two yet.

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      1. Buck The Trent
        • 14 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        B or C

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    • aleksios
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Finalizing wc
      little help guys?
      Foster,Jakup
      Smith,Friend,Amat,Shaw,McAuley
      Alexis,Firmino,Antonio,Snodd,Capoue
      Kun,Zlatan,Deeney.
      thanks in advance

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    • Romford Pele - Don't w…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Need a 4.4 defender. At Watford, who would be the better option?

      A) Zuniga
      B) Britos

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      1. Lyonnais
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Zuniga has playes 28 minutes all season, so Britos may be the better pick if you want a playing defender 😀

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    • Buck The Trent
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Missed the first KDB rise 🙁

      Assuming both Nacho and KDB' prices rise tonight, which one is more likely to rise by another 0.1 again by Saturday?

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      1. I Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        KDB I think. Kun's red flag being removed should stem the flow of Iheanacho transfers.

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      2. Dedalus1
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        KDB surely

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      3. Pompel
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        KDB rising at 4.8 %/h, Iheanacho at 3.0 %/h - both set to rise tonight. So it seems would be KDB. But wild carders muddying the picture

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    • anish10
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Best WC defence?

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      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        40m gets you a lot.

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      2. Coldplay
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I'm actually thinking about getting an Arsenal defender. Their fixtures get better after Chelsea, but the downside is that they are too expensive.

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      3. 824545201
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Holebas, Spurs defender, WBA defender, Everton defender and Amat.
        For goalkeepers either Foster + Pickford or Jaku + Pickford.

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    • Coldplay
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Firmino or Sterling? Also Tekkers or Defoe?

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    • Dedalus1
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Iheanacho set to rise tonight, and I have no idea why.

      Buzzing to take my .1 though and ditch.

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    • Lyonnais
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Ffix now predicting Hazard to fall tonight. He's on -65% and is falling with 7% per hour! fire sale...

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      1. I Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Probably a lot of WC transfers though.

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        1. Lyonnais
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          yeah, for sure. don't know how accurate price sites are including them.

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    • Rolls-Royce
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      5th time 1st on the bench.

      I HATE CAPOUE!!

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      1. The Gambler.
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        snap. playing him this week so...................red card?

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        1. Rolls-Royce
          • 12 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Inevitable.

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      2. semiconductor
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Same here

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    • HurriKane
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Damn 0.1 off this tasty move 🙁

      Ibra Hazard Snodgrass --> Aguero Sterling Firmino (-4)

      Is Coutinho a good alternative to Firmino (want a pool mid)

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      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Keep Snod!

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      2. sully29
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Quite like Snodgrass. I'd drop him > Sterling out of that equation. Sterling is a quality pick but always vulnerable to some rotation given their options.

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        1. HurriKane
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          yeap snod is a good option.and will give points consistently.

          but sterling or firmino has higher points ceiling and explosive potential

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