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18 September 2016 4809 comments
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Etienne Capoue continues his remarkable start to the season by helping Watford stun United at Vicarage Road. Scott Dann is amongst the goals again as Andros Townsend torments sorry Stoke in Palace’s romp at Selhurst Park.

Harry Kane bags Spurs’ winner before limping off at home to Sunderland, while Charlie Austin emerges from the bench to fire Southampton to a first win of the season. Here’s the Stock Check on Sunday’s events…

On the Rise

Etienne Capoue
Yet another goal for the Watford midfielder, who continues to lead the Fantasy Premier League player standings with a fourth strike of the season. With the fixtures now in his favour, many will feel that Capoue has done more than enough to claim a spot in our starting XIs.

Roberto Pereyra
The playmaker’s assist for Watford’s second means he has now produced attacking returns in all three league appearances since arriving from Juventus. Certainly, Capoue’s role as the go-to Watford attacker cannot be denied, yet Pereyra is proving a decent differential option in the mid-price bracket.

Daryl Janmaat
The summer signing from Newcastle United got his campaign off the mark with the assist for Capoue’s opener. Janmaat served up 12 assists in two seasons for a struggling Magpies outfit and is clearly enjoying his spot as a right wing-back in Walter Mazzarri’s 3-5-2. Forced off with a shoulder problem, his injury situation needs monitoring.

Troy Deeney
The Hornets captain netted for the second successive Gameweek thanks to a late penalty against United. Deeney’s kind 6.9 price tag and spot-kick duties should keep him ahead of Odion Ighalo as our preferred Watford forward as Mazzarri’s men prepare for a very kind schedule.

Marcus Rashford
Handed a first start of the season by Jose Mourinho, the youngster fired United’s consolation and has two goals in the last three Gameweeks. With few other options out wide impressing, there would be no surprise if he retains his spot for the home match against Leicester City.

Scott Dann
In spite of his lofty 5.5 price tag, the Eagles’ centre-half is already looking worth every penny. Dann’s first-half header was his third of the season in all competitions and with more efforts inside the box than any defender so far, he’s clearly profiting from the rule new change on holding at set-plays.

Andros Townsend
The Palace winger ended a four-match drought in style with a goal and an assist in the 4-0 thrashing of Stoke. With the Eagles looking more dangerous with Christian Benteke as the focal point in attack, Townsend’s supply line and goal threat from out wide means we can’t ignore him as a mid-price option.

Jason Puncheon
A consistent source of creativity for Alan Pardew’s side, the midfielder earned two assists this afternoon. Only Kevin De Bruyne and Dimitri Payet (four apiece) have bettered Puncheon’s three assists this season – incredibly, he’s already matched his haul for 2015/16. With Pardew looking to flood the box with crosses, Puncheon, Townsend and Wilfried Zaha are starting to look like viable options.

Marko Arnautovic
Stoke’s wide man finally opened his account for the campaign by denying Palace a clean sheet with virtually the last kick of the ball. With home encounters against West Brom, Sunderland and Swansea allied with a trip to Hull in the next five, Arnautovic – who has dropped to 7.3 – could kick on if the Potters can muster some form.

Charlie Austin
Despite bagging a midweek Europa League double, the forward dropped to the bench at home to Swansea. Replacing Shane Long early in the second period, Austin needed just 10 minutes off the bench to stake his claim for a regular role. With West Ham, Leicester, City and Chelsea just around the corner in the following five, though, there appears to be far better options in the mid-price bracket.

Cedric Soares
At a price of 5.0, the Portuguese right-back is emerging as the value route into Southampton’s defence. Sitting second amongst defenders for shots on target, Soares collected the maximum bonus in today’s win over Swansea as the Saints registered a first league win – and clean sheet – under Claude Puel. However, the aforementioned fixtures should deter any interest for now.

Kyle Walker
We expected a defensive reshuffle but Mauricio Pochettino sprung a surprise by shifting Jan Vertonghen to left-back and moving Eric Dier to centre-half against the Black Cats. With Kieran Trippier warming the bench, Walker was handed a fifth straight start and earned bonus points for the fourth time in five Gameweeks, cementing his lead at the top of the defender standings.

Harry Kane
With Mousa Dembele back in the starting lineup, Kane continued his remarkable record with the Belgian on board by netting the match-winner. It’s two goals in as many Gameweeks now for the Spurs striker, though there are major concerns over the ankle injury that forced him off after he was pictured leaving the stadium on crutches. He’s set to be assessed tomorrow, though any spell on the sidelines would obviously promote Vincent Janssen – at 7.8 – in our thinking.

Jordan Pickford
The Sunderland number one defied Spurs time and again with a heroic display between the posts. Pickford has racked up 20 saves in just three appearances, averaging a stop quicker than any keeper – at a price of just 4.0, continues to offer excellent value in spite of the Black Cats’ problems.

In Decline

Daley Blind
Culpable for Kevin De Bruyne’s opener in last week’s Manchester derby loss to City, the Dutchman warmed the bench for the first time in the league as Jose Mourinho opted for Chris Smalling alongside Eric Bailly. The manner of today’s defeat may well force Jose to think again, though.

Antonio Valencia
He’d played every minute of the season until today, but the right-back was the first to be sacrificed as United looked for a leveller. Subbed off just after the hour-mark, Valencia’s situation clearly needs monitoring as Mourinho looks for a solution to his side’s slump.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic
Yes, he was awarded the assist for Rashford’s goal and has only blanked in one of his first five appearances. Nonetheless, United’s alarming run of results and diminishing confidence has set in just as Manchester City’s Sergio Aguero returns to contention.

City are firing on all cylinders as an attacking force, ensuring Aguero’s allure. Meanwhile, both Romelu Lukaku and Diego Costa have strong form and are tempting investment, along with a cast of expensive midfield heavy-hitters.

Arguably, Ibrahimovic needed more than a fortunate assist to keep his stock from suffering.

Erik Pieters
The Dutchman had offered us the cheapest route into Stoke’s defence ahead of some kind fixtures but was surprisingly benched for the trip to Palace as Glen Johnson earned a first start of the season. Back-to-back heavy defeats suggest Mark Hughes may need to reassess his defence if they are to take advantage of some kind upcoming fixtures.

Erik Lamela and Christian Eriksen
After starting against Monaco in midweek, the Spurs midfield duo dropped to the bench this afternoon. Lamela owners, in particular, will be reassessing their options – he’s now been fielded as a sub in the last two. Eriksen’s pair of assists at Stoke last week had signalled a return to form but today’s teamsheet served a reminder that rotation can bite hard after European fixtures.

Patrick van Aanholt
Named on the Sunderland teamsheet and then withdrawn late on for “medical reasons” – there are growing reports that there is another side to the left-back’s omission.

Singled out as one of the players exposed by Everton on Monday night, the Dutchman’s starting role could now be in question, just as the Black Cats face back-to-back home encounters.

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  1. Niemi
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A) Ibra + Snodgrass
    B) Hazard + Defoe + 4 points

  2. Garlana
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Kun. Sterling and kdb too much city? 🙂

    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Not enough imo, damned rules

      1. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        But yep, probably. You need Arsenal and Liverpool mids too

    2. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      if you can afford them, why not!

    3. CREAM
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I was thinking of doing the same... gonna hold out on KDB as I'm on -4 already but will get him in next game week I think. City gonna win the league by a land slide. every team will have 3 city players by the end of the season.

    4. Garlana
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Currently have all 3 in wc team, got them in early to get the rises...doubt I will end the week with all three....but who knows 😉

    5. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I think gw 9-13 it wont be enough.

  3. Team Cruel
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Carlos María de Pena Bonino falling tonight. What are owners doing?

    1. SheBangsTheDrums
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Eh?

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Are you selling or keeping?

        1. SheBangsTheDrums
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Who is this lad?

          1. Team Cruel
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 10 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            You own him but don't know who he is?

  4. PvA
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Moves for Aguero with 2 FTs:

    Lukaku + Payet --> Aguero + Fletcher

    Heaton
    Shaw, Stones, Evans
    Hazard, Coutinho, Redmond, Capoue
    Ibra, LUKAKU, Benteke

    Pickford, PAYET, Kaboul, Amat

    Yes?

    Bottom of last page

  5. CREAM
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    how did people get on this week?

    GW5 81
    Overall 265

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      sweet rank

      1. Legomane
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        O.R work in progress...
        GW1 - 2,163,820
        GW2 - 1,239,857
        GW3 - 1,409,235
        GW4 - 441,436 (WC)
        GW5 - 245,167

        1. CREAM
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          nice

    2. Your Man With The Hair
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Not even hiding the boasting.

      Jealous.

    3. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      ̶h̶o̶w̶ ̶d̶i̶d̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶g̶e̶t̶ ̶o̶n̶ ̶t̶h̶i̶s̶ ̶w̶e̶e̶k̶?̶ Look at my score/rank

      1. Count of Monte Hristo
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        😆

      2. SheBangsTheDrums
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        This!

      3. CREAM
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        look at my overall score.. nothing to gloat about. I Did well this week though. haters gonna hate

        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          265 is your score and not your rank?

          1. CREAM
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            score

        2. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          265 looks like position not points.

          1. CREAM
            • 9 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            sorry it was points

        3. Hibbo
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          This is actually hilarious.

    4. Hibbo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Literally a case of the cream rising to the top.

      1. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Scratch this.

        This is a case of the cream making a complete balls of it.

        1. CREAM
          • 9 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          hahaha

    5. CREAM
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      in honesty its down to this fourm that helps me.. that's why I was sharing with people. nvm

    6. BbBb
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Is that overall points or rank?

      1. CREAM
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        point points points my rank is 425,292 haha

  6. Krafty Werks
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A - Coleman & Holebas

    B - Williams & Lovren

    Have 2 Watford in Deeney & Capoue, Kaku for the Toffees and Mane for Pool.

    Thanks.

    1. Dr Robotnik
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I wouldn't touch Lovren

    2. JÆKS ⭐
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Def A, Holebas is on most of the free kicks, shares corners with Capoue, and gets forward a lot, he's like the cheap Baines without Mirallas

  7. Dr Robotnik
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    As mentioned on a previous page, people think Rashford is a risk. Why? Who starts in his place? Seems the obvious choice to me.

    1. Team Cruel
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Depa... oh who am I kidding

      1. Dr Robotnik
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Lol

    2. PvA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Massive rotation risk. He's only started 1 game.

      1. Dr Robotnik
        • 9 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        From who? Mata? Mourinho dislikes him. Martial? Doesn't seem in foem at all. Mikitarian? Doesn't seem in favour at all!

    3. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      On the LW? Martial.

      1. Team Cruel
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Concussion. Might be out for a few weeks

        1. sully29
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          Ah right, makes sense.

  8. Hibbo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    That Van Anholt stuff was really weird.

    Definitely some kind of fall out with the management team and not an injury.

    1. Dušan Citizen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Perfect. I have got him and Pieters. Koscielny is against Chelsea and Amat against City. AOA on the cards.

      1. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        I take it you didn't see?

        The management team tell the referee team of a change then tell Denayer he's starting then Denayer tells PvA that he's not starting and PvA boots the ball away. Obviously not injured. Though Sunderland say withdrawn for medical reasons.

        Bizarre.

  9. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    A) Mane + 4.5def
    B) Firmino + Coleman/Williams

    1. Alnair
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Surely B

  10. Z
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Iwobi or Gundagon as a punt?

    1. CREAM
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Iwobi for me

  11. flipperallstars
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Redmond due a decent points haul, had some good chances today. Anyone not convinced?

    1. CREAM
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      so many better choices

    2. JÆKS ⭐
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He looks good value if you need a 7.0 or less middfielder

  12. Your Man With The Hair
    • 15 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Pick two from:
    A) Antonio
    B) Lallana
    C) Snodgrass

    thanks

    1. Garlana
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      A for sure, B if you have no other pool, but C if you do and then you can spend funds elsewhere.

  13. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Pick one:
    A) Lukaku+Defoe
    B) Costa+Abel Hernandez

    Third is Kun ofc

  14. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Right, planning to play Capoue for next 5 weeks so I need a dirt cheap midfielder that will
    A. Play when called upon
    B. Not get booked every game
    C. Not lose value in the next month or 2
    D. Bonus for attacking threat

    I'm talking like... £4.5m price. I could afford Fer but why bother I wouldn't start him in the next few weeks

    Any ideas? thinking De Roon for £4.4m but he's a defensive mid, doesn;t exactly inspire confidence

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      rodwell is your guy until he was benched today.

    2. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Fletcher might drop to 4.4 tonight. No attacking threat but might get CS points.

      1. Scratch
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Aye looked at him, but removing Hazard tonight before price drop so Fletcher is a no no

    3. JÆKS ⭐
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Fletcher?

    4. droginexile
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Darren Fletcher is my go-to 4.5 mid. Usually solid enough for 2-3 points off the bench if necessary. Looks like he's falling tonight though 🙁 You'll have a bargain at 4.4

  15. Gooner Kebab
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Tekkers, Haz, Ozil to Kun, Firmino and Snoddy -4

    yes or be patient?

  16. The Left Duke #3
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Aguero is hardly gonna go up in price tonight is he?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Tomorrow night likely.

      1. The Left Duke #3
        • 11 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Cool, I seen he's on 58% on fplstats but haven't brought him in yet as am unsure who to take out.

      2. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        It should slow. He may well get to protected status before going up - touch and go.

  17. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    For those on WC, selling KDB after his 2nd rise?

    1. Scholes Balls
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      A lot will be doing this.

    2. Cecil The Lion
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yes

    3. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Pretty much

    4. Pirlø's Pen
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Keeping 100%

    5. Garlana
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Nah. Still might keep him, he's quality. Got sterling too so will decide by he end if the week.

      1. TorresMagic™
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Can't have all 3 though.

  18. George Agdgdgwngo
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Getting closer to the WC team (well for tonight at least). Which one u liking guys? A or B?

    A.

    Jakupovic , foster
    Walker, Baines, kone
    sanchez, firm, Antonio, snoddy
    aguero, Zlatan, deeney
    Subs, Amat, Kelly, Capoue

    B.
    Jakupovic , Pickford
    Walker, Williams, Evans
    sanchez, firm, Antonio, capoue
    aguero, Zlatan, lukaku
    Subs, Amat, Kelly, fletcher

    1. Cantonas Demons
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      B

  19. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Do we expect Hazard to drop again tonight?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      I do

    2. Cantonas Demons
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Yea

    3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      it will be close

    4. Scholes Balls
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      he is at 92 already

    5. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Got rid earlier just in case!)

      1. Bubz
        • 12 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Who for?

  20. SheBangsTheDrums
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    WC activated!

    Walker, Antonio, Sterling, Capoue and Lukaku all brought in to catch the rises! Anyone else worth bringing in tonight?

    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      KDB

  21. Judas
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    First WC Draft, I think it ticks most of the key boxes?

    Heaton, Pickford
    Baines, Kosc, McAuley, Amat, Holebas
    Sanchez, Antonio, Capoue, Sterling, Fletcher
    Costa, Aguero, Lukaku

    Only thing is lack of Liverpool cover

    1. Cantonas Demons
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Firmino instead of Sterling after rises

      1. George Agdgdgwngo
        • 16 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        And ibra

  22. Cantonas Demons
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Options to bring back in Aguero !

    A. Benteke to Aguero and Sanchez to Snodgrass. 0.6 ITB

    B. Lukaku to Aguero and Sanchez to Cazorla (or another mid). O.1 ITB

    C. Benteke to Aguero and Hazard to Snodgrass and Masuaku to Daniels for a hit -4. 0.2 ITB

    D. Ibra to Aguero and Hazard to Firmino/Mane(or other suggestion @ 9.6 ITB)

    Also have Capoue, Antoino, McAuley, Holebas.

    Currently on C/D.

    Cheers

  23. fedolefan
    • 11 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Both Pickford and Jakupovic established first choices or are the keepers their teams signed on deadline day waiting to step in?

    1. Sz21
      • 14 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      The Pick is surely established at this stage.
      MoM display..

      Jaku.. not so sure.
      Marshall will prob replace I believe.

  24. Sz21
    • 14 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Any upgrades to this WC defence with 0.1m?

    Heaton, Pickford.
    Walker, Coleman, Lovren, Holebas, Amat.

  25. Stupendous
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    First green arrow and a huge one at that, with 79 this week. Wildcard intact too.

    Help please FFS community.

    Forster
    Walker. Morgan. Stones
    Barkley. Walcott. Hazard. Mane
    Nacho. Vardy. Lukaku

    Jakupovic. Capoue Amat Kone

    WC is inevitable surely.....

    1. Stupendous
      • 13 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      1 free. 2.0itb

  26. Scholes Balls
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Which frontline?
    Kun Ibra Costa
    Kun Lukaku Costa

  27. COYS Down Under
    • 10 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    Aside from Capoue, Sanchez or Antonio who is the best midfielder to own? Price is no object.

    1. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      KDB

    2. PvA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Hazard/Coutinho

    3. Abusive_Sgt_Daelrhos
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Sterling and Bolasie for me. And I rate Firmino over Antonio tbh

    4. Garlana
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Kdb or sterling(Christ..)

  28. Alnair
    • 9 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    a) Iwobi
    b) Snodgrass
    c) Bolasie
    d) Other up to 6.7m

  29. Dr Dream
    • 13 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    I smell trouble at United already. I've watched their last two games and see no Joi de vivre about them at all. That may seem an odd thing to say but when the smiles go in a team it never looks good to me.

    Jose working his "not magic" with his players ?

    1. sully29
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      He's setting them up wrong in midfield and attack. Not least because Rooney is involved in both midfield and attack.

      1. Dr Dream
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        Watching Liverpool, Arsenal and City you can see the smiles and you can see them enjoying their football...and it's good football...

        All I see at United is some pretty damned glum faces backed up by an increasingly glum manager...

      2. Hibbo
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        9 years, 4 months ago

        The last two United managers haven't put a bullet into Rooney and Mourinho will be no exception to that in my opinion.

        Seems Rooney has huge level sway.

        He's even immune to stick from ex pros they wouldn't turn a bad word in his mouth.

        1. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          9 years, 4 months ago

          I genuinely thought he would put the bullet into him but now i just dunno what to think

          Some say he has a clause in his contract stating that if he is fit he starts no matter what which at first i thought that's utter nonsense but is it? because i can't think of another reason for it at this stage i genuinely can't

          And its genuinely bizarre like you say listening to pundits and ex pros holding back and almost letting his total and utter gash performances go unnoticed

          1. Hibbo
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            9 years, 4 months ago

            I thought the criticism of Mkhitaryan and Lingard after Man City was strange tbh.

            Mkhitaryan has only stepped in the door for a new league barely played much football from the start and then got thrown into the biggest match and criticised after when Rooney can get away with his ballsing about.

            Football is supposed to be quick and sharp. Nice one and two touch pass and get on your bike and want it again. As you say Rooney stops United doing any of that. I don't know about clause, it's possible. Is he there till he breaks this record?! It's weird. I think back to him holding United to Ramson over contract before and thought they should have sold him then. But now he's just a fat slows useless mess, it's embarrassing. They should ask Roy Keane what he thinks about Rooney.

            1. KingNidge
              • 10 Years
              9 years, 4 months ago

              Yeah those decisions didn't do us any favours in the derby and it was uncomfortable to see him single players out something Fergie never did at least not publicly but i guess everyone has different methods..

              We have the players there to be play pretty much any which way we want to serious talent and exciting options but throw Rooney in with them and it turns to muck quite frankly.. so sad when you remember how explosive he was.. i understand he has run himself into the ground since he was 16 and all but there can be no excuse for losing your touch and general technique its genuinely baffling i mean i wonder if he is that trash on the training pitch too..

              Keane was always very complimentary about Rooney in his books and when they played together he respected Rooneys attitude and workrate totally... if he was in the team now however he would have him by the balls after those performances he churning out now make no mistake

              1. Hibbo
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 13 Years
                9 years, 4 months ago

                I think that's the entire problem though what you say their Keane would have him by the balls.

                At the minute Rooney is the captain, he does what Rooney wants whether for United or England.

                It just leads to a general malaise attitude. Everyone is thinking he played like crap but no one is saying it. It becomes the elephant in the room. Maybe team meetings saying "we need to pull our fingers out", other players thinking you've been done for 4 years pal. But no one saying nothing.

                Not a good place to be in.

                1. KingNidge
                  • 10 Years
                  9 years, 4 months ago

                  Worry that you are right tbh it sure seems that way..
                  I know it sounds terrible and i would never wish injury on any professional but the cold hard truth is a good lengthy lay off for whatever reason would be great for us as a team.. just any scenario where i wouldn't have to see him drop into the centre circle isolating Zlatan and taking up Pogbas space and pinging 50 yard passes either into the stand or the opposition keepers hands would be great

    2. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      The presence of Rooney in that side is undermining everything they are trying to do.. keeping possession counter attacking with pace and creating in the final third are just 3 of those things.. It's having a huge effect on Zlatan who gets no support from him the wide men he is incapable of feeding and just getting in Pogbas way.. i have said on numerous occasions we can compensate for Ibra lack of pace but not Rooneys too.. he can't even make a 5 or 10 yard pass anymore never mind a 50 yard one now his legs have gone along with his strength and everything else..

      I just can't get my head around it anymore but one thing is for certain.. Jose is risking his rep and job if he persists with this because the fans are at boiling point

    3. Polaris - The Mortal Coil
      • 12 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Certainly in a funk at the moment. I'm a little worried, mainly due to a few of José's decisions really getting to me.

      I'm sick of Mata playing from the right, even as a sub. I hope the midfield 3 is here to stay though, but preferably with Herrera in it. The continued Rooney selection is annoying me, etc.

      Martial's early poor form is surprising too. He was head and shoulders above every other outfield player at the club last season 🙁

  30. Ragabolly
    • 16 Years
    9 years, 4 months ago

    If you can get only one of Sterling or Payet, which one would you pick? (given that you have Kun)

    1. Stats Don\'t Lie
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Sterling and then id get antonio.

    2. PvA
      • 9 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Payet easily

    3. semiconductor
      • 11 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      Sterling until west ham pick form

    4. Garlana
      • 10 Years
      9 years, 4 months ago

      If you don't have Antonio, payet, but you could easily have Antonio and sterling to cover this.