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Dugout Discussion – Watford vs West Ham United

25 February 2017 1537 comments
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Gameweek 26 rolls on with an “unfashionable” evening encounter that pairs Watford with West Ham at Vicarage Road.

From a Fantasy perspective, this serves as a scouting mission of the Hammers assets ahead of potential investment for the Gameweek 28 blanks.

Slaven Bilic’s side are just one of eight teams that are currently guaranteed to play over that weekend and, as such, are elevated in our thinking ahead of this encounter.

Andy Carroll is again an absentee as he continues to struggle with a groin complaint, leaving Michail Antonio to lead the attack for the visitors. He’ll be under the microscope, along with Robert Snodgrass who tucks into the number 10 role against the Hornets.

For the home side, Fantasy interest is limited given their forthcoming blank, although promising fixtures to follow has us monitoring the continued form of Troy Deeney and M’Baye Niang.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Ha.
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Soccer

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  2. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    West Ham line up please

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    1. Ha.
      • 10 Years
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      Usual suspects, less Carroll

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  3. Bubz
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    8 years, 11 months ago

    Right Capoue, I have missed every single one of your hauls this season despite owning you since GW1. Now is the time. This is where you repay me with an autosub brace.

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    1. Magic Bean
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Same boat 🙂

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  4. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Penalty

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  5. andymck
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Penalty in the 2nd minute hahhahaha

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  6. SAY SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Clumsy AF. Watford pen.

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  7. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Come on Lanzini and Reid!

    Reid cs about to disappear 😀

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  8. Les Bleus
    • 14 Years
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    Assist?

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    1. dark91
      • 10 Years
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      Zarate

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    2. Greenbackbøøg…
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      zarate

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  9. TorresMagic™
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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    • 16 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    1-0 Deeney penalty

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    1. dark91
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Zarate assist

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  10. Jafooli
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Snodgrass CS point gone 😎

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  11. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Let Capoue take it ffs Deeney

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  12. Forza
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Fonte is making a solid first impression in my team. I was running out of annoying players to despise until just now.

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  13. LakhaneeFC
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Hahahaha, I have Fonte AND Snoddy

    Epic stuff

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  14. Pep says
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    #justiceforBrunt

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    1. El-Kloppico
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      I'm with you.. badly in need of points..

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    2. Bring the Cavalry
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      8 years, 11 months ago

      Has it been confirmed no assist?

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      1. Fingerspitzengefühl
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Mark said it will be reviewed, decision given within an hour

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        1. Bring the Cavalry
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Thanks mate, I will go pray for an hour then

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  15. El-Kloppico
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    8 years, 11 months ago

    Have not been around for sometime now.. since the last GW..
    Heard there is a possible DGW for City on next GW?
    What's the probability of it coming true?

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    1. Typo
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      If they win the replay

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      1. El-Kloppico
        • 10 Years
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        Is that confirmed?

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        1. Fingerspitzengefühl
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Yes, been confirmed, DGW in 27 for City if they beat Huddersfield.

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          1. El-Kloppico
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Against ManU, right?

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            1. TokyoRisingSun
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 9 Years
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              Stoke

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              1. El-Kloppico
                • 10 Years
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                Ohh.. Thats no DGW then..

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  16. Typo
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Antonio up top, hebknut took a hit to Get him in. Its written, he will score today!

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    1. Yank Revolution
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Would make my gameweek if he did...

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  17. FFPro
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    So Brunt robbed of an assist and McAuley miraculously gets 2 baps on final update - http://i.imgur.com/xopuXO9.png

    7 point swing last week, and 5 point swing this (assist vs 2 baps)

    Utterly ridiculous fpl hand out points due to ownership alo

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    1. Pep says
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      8 years, 11 months ago

      The decision hasn't been made on Brunt yet

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    2. Typo
      • 12 Years
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      Just join the fun already. Get McAuly

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    3. Numb
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      McAuley has high ownership

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    4. Lawrø
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Completely disagree. FPL have made the right decisions thus far... and that's coming from someone who has Brunt and benched McAuley last week

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    5. My Name Is Prince
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Winning goal mate

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  18. fiveyears
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Has there been more Brunt controversy?!

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    1. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      My understanding is Brunt hit a ball in, which hit off two players and was then put in the net.

      If that's the case, I don't understand the controversy.

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      1. FFPro
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Keeper punched it up onto his own back - 1 player

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          How did he manage to punch it onto his own back?

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          1. Pep says
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            It just happened. If you're not gonna even watch it, how can you even comment on this

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            1. Somalion
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              I've obviously not been able to find a link, relax.

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        2. La Roja
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Sounds like he is an octopus that goalie

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          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            I actually can't understand how he managed to physically do that...

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      2. fiveyears
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Guess I'd have to see the goal in question first, find it amazing if there's been two separate incidents in two GWs

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          I've not seen so would want to as well, but from what I've heard it doesn't sound like an assist whatsoever

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      3. Numb
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Wouldn't have been a goal without Brunt's intervention. Common sense suggests assist. Non-owner.

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          That's very loose imo.

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    2. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      People think he should have an assist. Not seen it but from the description it doesn't sound like one

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      1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I don't care either way about if he gets it. I'm an owner. Just amazed how long it takes them to decide if somthing meets the criteria that they set. They need to pass this on to somone a bit more capable of dealing with it

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        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 19 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          All goals with no assists assigned are assessed in the final hour before the bonus points are confirmed unless there's a glaring error. This is not a glaring error, this is a review of a current non assist. It's been like this for two seasons.

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          1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            In that case mark I retract what I said. Still think they need to pass it over I'll stand by that. Think it could be better for us and for them also. Make the game better don't you think? Only opinion mind.

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          2. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Maybe I'm just seeing this from my own perspective. I been caught out a lot with these assist issue a lot over the past few seasons. I'm just a tad disgruntled that's all. I've got no problem with the game it's just these assists. I don't really get it. Maybe their rules need updating. I just don't know

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    3. Pep says
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      8 years, 11 months ago

      Brunt played the ball in, keeper went to fist it, didn't connect. As the keeper went forward with momentum, the ball dropped, touched off his back, ball bounced, McAuley knocked it in

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      1. djpete
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Sounds like an assist then

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  19. Wally banter
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Seems like im the only deeney owner out here :O

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  20. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Aguero's price changes are weird out the mo

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    1. Wally banter
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      What made yu think so?

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  21. Earn your Spurs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Interesting. With 2 hits I could get to this for GW28

    Randolph (Grant)
    Coleman, Baines, Mawson, McAuley (Alonso)
    Mane, Firmino, Siggy, Phillips (de Roon)
    Lukaku (Costa) (Aguero)

    Would set me up to play 5 2 3 afterwards - anyone tried that for any length of time before?

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  22. Differentiator
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Who's keeping Phillips :D?

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    1. Numb
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      How long is he out for?

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      1. Differentiator
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Given the state of my team, don't know, don't care

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      2. KUNingas
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        This

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    2. Guvnor
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Me. But only cuz I need to offload stanislas first

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      1. Differentiator
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        I'm on the same sinking ship, brother

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      2. KUNingas
        • 9 Years
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        Why stanislas first if Phillips is injured for a long time?

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        1. Pep says
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          8 years, 11 months ago

          Stan can't even make a cameo

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          1. KUNingas
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            True but might make. If Phillips out he defenitly wont make

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            1. Pep says
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              8 years, 11 months ago

              Maybe but Stan doesn't seem to be near the team atm and Phillips gives you better options money wise I guess

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              1. KUNingas
                • 9 Years
                8 years, 11 months ago

                True but Phillips more expensive, will sell him first if injured 😉

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        2. Guvnor
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          If Philips is long term injured I'll sort him before stanislas.. Will wait for more info first

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          1. KUNingas
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Sure

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      3. Wally banter
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Know that feeling mate.. 🙁

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    3. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Me till next week, will get rid if there's a chance he won't play 28

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    4. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      If it's a hammy, he gone.

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    5. Typo
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Sold for siggy before this gw

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    6. Fred54
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Not taking a hit to buy in cheapie for one lousy GW28, he can rot on the bench until I WC.

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    7. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Me as a permenant reminder to never do such a thing again

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  23. Greenbackbøøg…
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    https://my.mixtape.moe/txqpmi.mp4 This is McAuleys goal btw

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    1. NATSTER
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Horribly missed by GK.

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    2. Differentiator
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Wow.

      That has to be a Brunt assist

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    3. fiveyears
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Hmm I think that's an assist, common sense says so anyway. Wouldn't be too shocked to see no assist given though.

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    4. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Can't see that as an assist

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    5. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Brunt assist.. only GK touched it.

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    6. Somalion
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Cheers for the link!

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    7. KingNidge
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Brunt assist.. no question

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      1. Numb
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Well, whoever took the corner obviously but couldn't tell from that.

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        1. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Assuming he did it's an assist

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          1. Numb
            • 11 Years
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            Yeah, don't think that's in doubt.

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      2. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        There's a lot of questions imo Nidge, I think as a minimum you would have to say that Brunt was aiming for McAuley rather than just putting it into the danger area.

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Going back to previous decisions with FPL, they've taken a player's intention into account, where they judged a player to be trying to assist instead of shooting on goal.

          If it was a shot, then Brunt may well have gotten the assist, but Boruc's first hit takes it entirely away from McAuley (not that it was going to him in the first place) and his second touch passes it straight to McAuley.

          Weird one, no idea how they'll judge it but the two touches make it tough.

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        2. Pep says
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          The assister often just sends it into the danger zone as opposed to picking a specific person. You saying Evans was aiming at McAuley last week

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          1. Somalion
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            Maybe not aiming but if Evans had headed it across the goal as a pass and the keeper did what Boruc did only for McAuley to turn it in I'm not sure it'd be an assist either.

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        3. KingNidge
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Bores the bollox off me debating these types of things mate i just take the points as they're given.. i expect this one will be given but we shall see

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    8. Numb
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Whoever took the corner get the assist for that one, couldn't see who that was from the footage though.

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      1. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        we know it was Brunt. Old assit rules would say it's an assist - but for new ones I'm not so sure. If a cross is pushed out by the goalkeeper and an attacker scores then there's no assist. But in this case the cross was pushed, but not out. Does that make a difference? I own Brunt and could do with the points, but I'm not convinced it should be given.

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        1. Somalion
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 11 months ago

          Think of it another way. If a ball came in and a defender loosely controlled it (1st touch) then accidentally mucked up and backheeled it into the path of an attacker (2nd touch) would they give an assist for that?

          I don't know what the answer is but I'd not be shocked if they didn't get.

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          1. Pasqualinho
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 11 months ago

            It's that old slight deflection vs significant deflection question again, really. I think going back earlier in the season didn't Ibra get one when the keeper stopped one of his crosses? v Watford wasn't it? I don't see a great difference between that one and this one - but I think at the time everyone was questioning that that shouldn't have been given.

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            1. Somalion
              • 16 Years
              8 years, 11 months ago

              I cannot remember that for the life of me but I have no doubt whatsoever you're right! That first hit from Boruc is a significant deflection imo, it's just the second one puts it right back in McAuley's path. Did the Ibra cross have 2 deflections?

              Brunt testing the FPL crew no end this season!

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    9. Fingerspitzengefühl
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Thanks for the link! Seems like he actually punches the ball and it bounces off his own back, but I'm guessing the other angles available for the FPL bosses will get a better view of it and decide what happened

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    10. Bring the Cavalry
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      That has to be an assist, did not expect it to be as clear as that

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    11. Konig Luther
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      And this is an Ibra assist given: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQKekoOSQnQ&feature=youtu.be

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      1. Pasqualinho
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        That's the one I was thinking of - thanks KL. Wasn't off the keeper, though, like I thought. Nevertheless there's not a world of difference between this and Brunt's.

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  24. fedolefan
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Anyone remember Snodgrass getting that assist for the Obiang goal against Southampton. Youtube it or something. That was given as an assist.

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      This here?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQQpJkeUCQ4

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      1. fedolefan
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Yep.

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      2. fedolefan
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 11 months ago

        Should say, I am assuming.

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  25. L9
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    phillips to sigurdson? thoughts about the gw 28 blqnk?

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    1. KUNingas
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Yes if injured

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  26. Viper
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    McAuley & Coleman have worked wonders for me, they really have kept me afloat

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    1. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Yeps.. Not for Brunt and Baines owners like me though.

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    2. Trading Bear
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      I've had Brunt, Coleman, and Mcauley just to be sure. Alonso in reserve...

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    3. WVA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Brunt and Baines are very frustrating!

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  27. Bubz
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Snodgrass should have scored

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  28. WVA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Gotta score that snoddy!
    Cant catch a break

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  29. My Name Is Prince
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Now just waiting for Wednesday and bring in Aguero & Sterling if/when they win... Easy game this...

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    1. El-Kloppico
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      What do you do for BGW28 then?
      2 city are too much imo

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  30. Scratch
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 11 months ago

    Coleman, McAuley, Baines, Siggy and Lukaku (c) doing well with Costa & Hazard not doing too much damage. Decent week so far..

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    1. Trading Bear
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 11 months ago

      Coleman, Mcauley, Pedro, Lukaku (c), Siggy in for Phillips, Costa.

      Mane and Eriksen to come, glorius stuff.

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