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30 December 2011 3298 comments
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Deadline passed, we’ve just the one match to distract us while we ponder the merits of our latest tinkerings. It’s off to Anfield for what is traditionally a cracker, as Liverpool face Newcastle – the Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to soak up the match events as they happen…

The team news is in and there are few surprises amongst them. With Luis Suarez twiddling his thumbs after putting his one finger to use at Craven Cottage, Kenny Dalglish recalls Craig Bellamy in tandem with Newcastle old boy Andy Carroll. The script is there, can the big Geordie deliver?

Liverpool’s other change has Jay Spearing make a return, with Maxi Rodriguez making way. He joins Steven Gerrard on the bench.

As for Newcastle, they make just one change with Haris Vuckic drafted in for Leon Best who is amongst the subs. Demba Ba shakes off a “little knock” to his knee to lead the line, carrying the hopes of the travelling Magpies faithful and the expectations of plenty of Fantasy managers. Enjoy the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. tommys
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I'm a UTD fan but hats off to Gerrard he is good !!!!!!

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yeh for some reason its ok to admit that, and i agree thoroughly...for now.

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      1. tommys
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        for now yes............. in a few weeks no 🙂

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  2. alsybach
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    STEVEN GERRARD man of the match!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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  3. Lionel Hutz
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Question, perhaps stupid: Is Ba likely to fall or Adebayor likely to rise tonight? I'm making the switch but I'd rather wait until after the Spurs game tomorrow in case of injuries.

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Use totalfpl/fiso. Neither changing tonight.

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      1. Lionel Hutz
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Ok, cheers.

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    2. d452
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Neither will move tonight based on FISO...I am going to make the same move tomorrow too after Ade's game

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    3. GunsnRoses
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I think Adebayor will rise. Ba may not fall ...

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  4. Fernando Torres
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Is this mad

    RVP + Silva >>> Rooney + Gerrard - 2 FT

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    1. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

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    2. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yep mad

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    3. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Thats just stupid. knee Jerking Gerrard in? He wont even start the next 2 games at least. KD said hed be pulling him back to match fitness slowly. Get some DGW playe

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      1. Podge
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Pardon

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    4. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Thats just stupid. knee Jerking Gerrard in? He wont even start the next 2 games at least. KD said hed be pulling him back to match fitness slowly. Get some DGW players

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      1. Podge
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Sorry ?

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    5. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Thats just stupid. knee Jerking Gerrard in? He wont even start the next 2 games at least. KD said hed be pulling him back to match fitness slowly. Get some DGW players in

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      1. Podge
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        What was that ?

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    6. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Thats just stupid. knee Jerking Gerrard in? He wont even start the next 2 games at least. KD said hed be pulling him back to match fitness slowly. Get some DGW players in there

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      1. Random_Guy
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Could you please repeat that once more? I still don't understand your point.

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    7. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Thats just stupid. knee Jerking Gerrard in? He wont even start the next 2 games at least. KD said hed be pulling him back to match fitness slowly. Get some DGW players in there instead

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      1. Lionel Hutz
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        You do know how to make a point

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      2. gruffyboy
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Sorry - what was that?

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      3. Barry Frys revenge
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        so what are you really saying..????...that its stupid or something...????

        ...hard to tell with your ambigous response...!!!!!

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        1. User
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          I don't see any ambiguity and the OP makes a good point.

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    8. gruffyboy
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Stone cold crazy y'know

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      1. Fernando Torres
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I'm not sure, I had gerrard when he scored against united and really rate him ff wise

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    9. Bendy Busdriver
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Thats just stupid. knee Jerking Gerrard in? He wont even start the next 2 games at least. KD said hed be pulling him back to match fitness slowly. Get some DGW players in

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      1. Podge
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Oh I get ya now

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    10. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I would do it.

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      1. Fernando Torres
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        seriously or just taking the mick?

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        1. TorresMagic™
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          9 vs 1.

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        2. Lionel Hutz
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          If anyone tells you to do this they are winding you up

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  5. chriswally09
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    gerrard MOM talk about kneejerk??? bellamy after scoring two goal! sad shit1

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe after the man city match Bellamy and Gerard worth thinking about. But Bellamy is the same price as sturridge and Gerard is the same price as Silva!

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  6. 4-4-who?
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Why would ANYONE have Carroll in their fantasy team - shocking positioning, awful first touch - all he can do is head and then he hits the bar!

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Nzogbia, Downing, Carroll and Henderson. Worst signings of the season and three of them Liverpool!

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  7. big oak
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    all liverpool team is trying to get caroll a goal.....
    except johnson trying to win the worst shot of the year award

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  8. dogtanion
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    lol at people thinking whoever scores more goals makes them man of the match. Fully deserved Stevie G.

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    1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      he's been immense. actually the last game he came on he was just as good, made some fantastic through balls and passes. quality player.

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  9. Sheep Flavour
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Bellamy should be MOM surely?

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  10. andy85wsm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • Has Moderation Rights
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    "Liverpool have managed to score 3 without Suarez".

    It's like the commentators think Suarez scores goals.

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  11. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I wonder what my opinion of Gerrard would be if he had joined Chelsea all those years ago.

    Or, should I say, if Liverpool fans hadn't bombarded him with death threats, forcing him to stay.

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    1. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Torres made the move to shitty bridge and it did him the world of good!!!!!!

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I'd imagine he's quite enjoying playing in the Champions League again, yes.

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        1. alsybach
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          is he playingis he???

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      2. gruffyboy
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        LOL

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    2. dogtanion
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      What's your opinion of two champions league wins? That's probably what would have happened.

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    3. Cardiff Kopite
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      He stayed. We love him. You want him.

      We never wanted Frank. You can keep him.

      Tara 😉

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  12. Call Me Old Fashioned
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    If it wasnt city next I would do Ba--->Bellamy. But it is so Sturridge it is.

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  13. alsybach
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    3 players played - 4 points..........another solid start to the game week..........

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      4 from 2 here

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    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      2 from 1

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  14. gruffyboy
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    BPs - Bellamy, Gerrard........Agger / Enrique?

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    1. Limbo
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Why Enrique?

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      1. gruffyboy
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        He's in my team

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  15. mahone24
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Everyone in all my leagues has captained RVP except me, a one pointer might not go amiss

    Also should i do Rooney to Ade and Sess to Bale tonight before the price rise? Its a 4 point hit giving me 3 spurs and 1 everton for dgw. Worth getting in Baines for an 8 pointer?

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    1. TorresMagic™
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Lose some money & wait until after the games.

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    2. Gaxx
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      don't voodoo RVP now.

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  16. teto
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    GERRARDDD YNWA man of the match

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  17. big oak
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    gerrard should be man of the match for his influence on the game

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    1. alsybach
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      do you not think Bellamy influenced the game??????

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    2. dogtanion
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      +1 Just before he came on, Newcastle knocked around 34 consecutive passes. They barely entered the Liverpool half after Gerrard came on.

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  18. Compulsive Transfer Policy
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Dempsey or Mata for next 4 GW's. I have Sturridge if that makes a difference.

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    1. big oak
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      did u see dempsey's fixtures???? we all know how bad fulham are away from home

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      1. Compulsive Transfer Policy
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Mmm yes 3 home and 1 away

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  19. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    haha downing is so bad. he is miles worse than carroll this year

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    1. Granville
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Trying to do an Alonso. FAIL.

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    2. Stat virgin
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      0 goals or assists playing 99% of the minutes playing as part of a front 3 for a top 6 club is just shocking

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  20. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Not sure what's worse...

    a) Torres for 50m
    b) Carroll & Downing for 55m

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    1. Random_Guy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      The latter. At least Torres was a world-class player.

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      1. Granville
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I would argue the opposite. What's the point of having a has been. At least Carroll can improve in the 5 years he's got over Torres. As for Downing, he's gone backwards too.

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    2. big oak
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      it gets worse when u see bellamy gettin in for free with mancity paying him a full year salary in advance to leave

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    3. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      yeah but both clubs got good deals for mata and suarez. can't win em all, every club makes poor transfers

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        I'd say they got what you should expect for 20m purchases, rather than getting a good deal.

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    4. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Carroll & Downing inflated English self worth.
      Torres deflated self worth by England! 🙂

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  21. Random_Guy
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Whew. My Ba -> Sturridge transfer seems to have paid off, for the moment anyways.

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    1. Back on the horse
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      +1 we are the best managers eva

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    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      People on here were telling me to stick with Ba. Glad I switched to Sturridge though 😀

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      1. Doctor X
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        You're the guy who was obsessed with Morrison yes?

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        1. DV8R
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          I only mentioned him once or twice the other day

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  22. Back on the horse
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Guitierrez has been chatting Gerrard up ever since he came on, to get his shirt. blurghhhh

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  23. trisonetwo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    He walked away from the free kick which Bellamy scored, what a hero!! Saying that, anything to annoy Bellamy..

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  24. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Wish I had played Vorm over Krul just hope I've got lucky picking Nani as c over Rvp at least my cup opponent doubled up on Newcastle def

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    1. Random_Guy
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Meh. I don't think Vorm will keep a clean sheet either.

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    2. Taribo West on a free
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      ^ this

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  25. Barry Frys revenge
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    FT at Anfield, well done Pool....

    ...Utd to get 7 against Blackburn again please...!

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  26. Kostja
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    At least Ba to Sturridge wont be a total bust for sure.

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  27. Viper
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    As a person with nobody playing in that game, i'll take that!

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  28. BMox81
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Ba getting nothing: pleasing.

    Agger getting that OG wiped out: Even more pleasing.

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    1. dogtanion
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'm not an owner..but it looked like he definitely played a part in that goal..

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  29. Declan
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Henderson assist nice.

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  30. Taribo West on a free
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Right, three Spurs in, two Everton in. Want a full house, so who to get from Everton - have Drenthe and Jagielka, Baines is too rich for my blood. Thinking Osman or Saha.

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    1. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Go Donovan 😀

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    2. JWF
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Donovan

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      please do not do that to yourself

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      1. Taribo West on a free
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        It makes me feel alive. Wildcarding after.

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    4. tommys
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      osman is a much better bet than saha who wouldnt hit a barn door if he fell on it

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    5. Sheep Flavour
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Be careful go trips on EFC players. Unless you are wildcarding after GW20 are you really going to want to use your transfers getting rid of them or will you want to keep 2 or 3 EFC players in your side for the few weeks afterwards.

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    6. Limbo
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Wait to see how the wolves game pans out before you make a decision...

      Saha has been showing good signs but could be injured as ever. Osman is nailed on at the mo.

      Distin could be a good bet... in for Hettinga - back from injury - played 90 in last game.

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