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30 December 2011 3298 comments
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Deadline passed, we’ve just the one match to distract us while we ponder the merits of our latest tinkerings. It’s off to Anfield for what is traditionally a cracker, as Liverpool face Newcastle – the Dugout Discussion chatroom is now open to soak up the match events as they happen…

The team news is in and there are few surprises amongst them. With Luis Suarez twiddling his thumbs after putting his one finger to use at Craven Cottage, Kenny Dalglish recalls Craig Bellamy in tandem with Newcastle old boy Andy Carroll. The script is there, can the big Geordie deliver?

Liverpool’s other change has Jay Spearing make a return, with Maxi Rodriguez making way. He joins Steven Gerrard on the bench.

As for Newcastle, they make just one change with Haris Vuckic drafted in for Leon Best who is amongst the subs. Demba Ba shakes off a “little knock” to his knee to lead the line, carrying the hopes of the travelling Magpies faithful and the expectations of plenty of Fantasy managers. Enjoy the game.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. jamsiep
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Might need to answer this question tonight, to catch the price rise of Bale...

    Who would you rather get rid of, to get Bale in for the DGW, Rooney or Nani?

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    1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'd say keep Rooney but surely you gotta wait till tomorrow? Not worth it to gain 0.1 imo

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, just seen that Nani might rise too (boosting my selling value for him by 0.1) so it's not really an issue anymore.

        Was thinking of keeping Rooney too.

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    2. yanky
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      wazza 10

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    3. Piggs Boson
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Rooney imo. The absence of Ferdinand, Evans and smalling will mean jones should be cb. Meaning Rooney may be CM.

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    4. Back on the horse
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      pass

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        You're fired.

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    5. Bendy Busdriver
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      silva

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    6. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Neither.

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      1. jamsiep
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Not going without Bale for WBA + EVE, WLV!

        Getting rid of Nani/Rooney is the only way I can afford him, unfortunately.

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        1. AP
          • 16 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          RVP?

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          1. jamsiep
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            😯

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    7. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'd say Nani, because I think he's more likely to be rotated. Depends also on if he's risen in value since you've bought.

      I've had Roon since week 1 and his value is still 12.0 - so no lost value if I trade him out. Makes a one-week punt easier to stomach.

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    8. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Any other way of getting him in? Newc shipping goals of late and after them in GW20 MUN have BOL...

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  2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    was cabaye's header on target? if it was R Taylor would get an assist..

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  3. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Sky giving goal to cabaye with r Taylor assist

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    1. Bendy Busdriver
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      crazy talk

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  4. mgrea
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    bonus for skrtel

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Goal saving moments like that are worth the same points as a goal scored imo

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      1. mgrea
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        My thoughts exactly. Him and Dagger beat Ba in the air almost every time too.

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  5. @FPLStrategist
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    14 years, 1 month ago

    Ba and Mata out, Ade and Bale in for 4 pointer...opinions?

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Mata out is a dogshit move...

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    2. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      mata has great fixtures

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      1. 4-4-who?
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Agree, just looking at same issue.

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  6. The Bandit
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Ba bah! Had Bellamy lined up if Ba wasn't fit! 🙁

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    1. Podge
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I was between him and Odem and went for the latter cos of his lurvely fixtures

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  7. Batigol
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Right, I need to get rid of Adam tonight before he drops. Who to get in for £9.6m max?

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    1. sumatera
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Dempsey or Bale

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  8. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I cant understand Joe Coles French accent on Sky.

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    1. heartsattack
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Nice of his Dad to lend him a suit though. The sleeves clearly tailored for someone else.

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  9. tevezthetroll
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I have Walker, Bale & Adebayor for the DGW. Should I get Jags for Enrique (away to City) or Walters for Osman/Drenthe?

    Cheers

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    1. Chris_White
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      The latter.

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    2. Oi! Shadders!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Not Jagielka. You wouldn't want to keep him longer than the DGW, would you?

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  10. AriseSirGiggsy
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    I'm sure Ba gets a touch on that, he calimed it straight away

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    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      claimed*

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      1. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        He def got a touch but up to fpl

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      2. Feanor
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Strikers always claim goals whether they got a touch or not.

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    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Must have touched it then. No need for camera evidence.

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    3. applebonkers
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      i think the problem was he never claimed it

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    4. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      He put his arm up to celebrate.

      However the commentator said at HT that no-one in the Newcastle dressing room claimed the goal, so it seems that it is an Agger og.

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  11. yanky
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    suarez who? liverpool back babyyy, captain fantastic!!! think im gonna put 300 usd for liverpool fourth place finish

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    1. Attila the Bum
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      😆

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    2. Mulder
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Go for it, easy money

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    3. Kostja
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Good game for sure, but dont make that bet. No way they are better than Arse, Tott ot Chels. Maybe will be ahead of Arsenal, but I doubt it.

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      1. yanky
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        city, utd, spurs, lpool, che, ars

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      2. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        They are *easily*, miles, better than Arse.

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    4. AP
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Go for 1st place, it's bound to happen now.

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  12. Mull
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Silva to Bale tonight or wait until he has played.

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    1. Just One More Thing
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Wait.

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  13. Just One More Thing
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Ba-humbug. The more I see that Skrtel goal-line clearance the more annoyed I get.

    Ba worth holding onto for the United game? What do the loyal ones who stuck by him think?

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    1. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      0.4 in kitty for Sturridge.

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      1. Just One More Thing
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Yeh - had the 4 pointer lined-up of Ba > Sturridge & Evans > BAE. Did Sinclair > Ethers instead. Hope Sturridge doesn't play like he did v Newcastle tomorrow.

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        1. Call Me Old Fashioned
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          i was tempted to take a 4pt hit but didnt and lost out on 0.2M. Meh. 2moro will be nerve racking!

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    2. gravless
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      No. Cut and run.

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      1. AP
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        How are you feeling about that advice to start Krul over Vorm?

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        1. gravless
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          Good.

          Swans will get mullered

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          1. SuperDunny - Used to be goo…
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            What else do you have this week? Adebayor not to start against Swansea, i remember that one. Any others?

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            1. gravless
              • 14 Years
              14 years, 1 month ago

              Ramsey to be Arsenal's top point scorer v QPR

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              1. Jinswick
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 15 Years
                14 years, 1 month ago

                Would love this

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          2. denial
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            They won't.

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          3. CatMac
            • 16 Years
            14 years, 1 month ago

            😆

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        2. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          😆

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  14. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Lol pardew

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  15. lappingitup
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Adam continues to stink out my world, swap for Cahill drench or silva?

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Cahill? Tim Cahill? Tim "Gone Off on Walkabout" Cahill?

      Not him.

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  16. Lionel Hutz
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Should I downgrade Silva, Mata or Jones?

    I need to make up 1.3M to fund Ba->Adebayor. Have 2 free transfers.

    Currently leaning towards Silva as City are playing Liverpool and Spurs in their next 3 games.

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    1. Oi! Shadders!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Silva, imo.

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    2. Lionel Hutz
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I've re-posted with more info on the next page

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  17. Alonso The Great Midfielder
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    time to get gerrard in my team although he is not guaranteed the first team line up

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    1. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      in my preferred wildcard lineup

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    2. Jax
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      he will be now. he has to be.

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  18. AriseSirGiggsy
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    hope to se Demba Ba come out and publicly claim that goal tonight

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    1. Lionel Hutz
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      "Before the news, a special message from Demba Ba."

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      1. Jax
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        no way was it his goal.

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  19. Pinturicchio
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    "That is whats called in the game A leg braker"...no shit sherlock

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  20. FF Dirtbag
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Yakubu vs Stoke Away? Peoples opinions? Thinking of options to get Ba out of my team now...

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    1. Jax
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      yakubu vs stoke at home u mean...

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      1. FF Dirtbag
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Yea i meant stoke is away... woops.

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  21. bobby_pires
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Ba > Agbonlahor, 4 week punt?

    Had him from gw's 1 to 11 and scored me plenty of points, mainly against the lesser teams, gone off the boil since but next 4 fixtures:

    Swansea (H)
    Everton (H)
    Wolves (A)
    QPR (H)

    0.4m short of doing Ba>Sturridge unless i take a 4pt hit

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    1. FF Dirtbag
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      It is an interesting move, i had him for ages as well and now comtemplating getting him back in. Can't remember how his form is recently though...

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    2. Cruicky
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      I'm thinking of doing it as well.

      Hopefully he finds some form and Bent can score to get him some assists as well.

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    3. reply fail
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      Good choice, think I will do the same.

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  22. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Lol Mick mcarthy

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    1. Wrong Captain Choice - Ag i…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Yeah I thought he was going to do a powerpoint presentation at one stage!

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  23. hillbillypete
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    pleased i did Ba to Sturridge.

    also Mata to Drenthe (no hit)

    just done Santon to Baines and im all tooled up 🙂

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    1. sumatera
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      mata to Denthe really? even for a double game week not sure thats a good move

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      1. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        yeeep, didn't lose any cash on him. mata hasn't impressed me and can always get back if need to with WC. had to be done to fund other moves.

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    2. ⭐ Bemba_Da ⭐
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      You gonna regret mata to drenthe

      Sure it's dgw but people are getting a little silly packing their teams with everton players

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      1. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        we shall see

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        1. Gaxx
          • 14 Years
          14 years, 1 month ago

          if your going for a evertonian - why not osman - he scores goals and assists not so drenthe.

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      2. Jax
        • 16 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        drenthe is likely to get more points in 2 games though. bolton at home he should do well and who knows with spurs

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  24. ShadyGooner
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Sinclair to Dempsey before the price rise?

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    1. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Think Dempsey is a good shout for the next few games

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  25. tm245
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    RVP and RTaylor out, Ade and Baines in for DGW. What is it -- good, bad, or ugly?

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    1. MC
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Good if you can get RVP back straight away after DGW..

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    2. Oi! Shadders!
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Both bad and ugly.

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    3. Spectrum-FFS Doubles Champ
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ok no doubt this will be asked loads but thought would get the ball rolling captain Ade or Bale for the double?

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Please don't start this now. Nani/Rooney/RVP debate has given me full-blown PTSD.

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    4. Burly - swear i wont ever (…
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      how much would you lose on RVP?

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    5. Pasqualinho
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Ade and Baines desinitely ugly. Child-frighteningly ugly. Might be good for FPL points though.

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      1. tm245
        • 14 Years
        14 years, 1 month ago

        Bought RTaylor at 4.0 and RVP at 11.9 so I am hoping to cash in.

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  26. cechmate
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Osman and Drenthe in for Ramsey and Dyer for a hit? Overkill?

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    1. adziom
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Not for a hit, get rid of Dyer and then get whichever Everton mid you can afford

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  27. MC
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    any chance whatsoever of Sessegnon rising tonight and Drenthe not rising until tomorrow night??

    Would be ideal for me to do that transfer tomorrow..

    Would only be a DGW switch, d'ya reckon it's worth it? would be this week's FT.

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  28. AP
    • 16 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Dalglish complaining of terrible injuries this year....

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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    1. mouldy_uk
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      What and only having half a billion to waste on rubbish players

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    2. tommys
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      LoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooL have a look around the other teams kenny dogleash

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    3. AriseSirGiggsy
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      Kuyt, Carrol, Bellamy = all Liverpools best goalscorers and all largely benched throughout the season while his signings (Enrique excepted) have floundered.

      Dalglish is the reason Liverpool have drawn 6 at home already

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  29. DV8R
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    How many point hits are you guys willing to take for the upcoming DGW?

    I'm thinking 8...

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    1. andy85wsm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      0

      4 players will do me

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    2. Mull
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      0 or 4. I'd only take an 8 if I had about 6-7 injuries or there were multiple double gameweeks.

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    3. Call Me Old Fashioned
      • 15 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      0. I got my 3spurs and will leave it that.

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    4. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      4

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    5. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      0.

      Never take hits before dead duck dgws.

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    6. Jax
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      14 years, 1 month ago

      madness.

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    7. Gaxx
      • 14 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      save your 8 points to February when the the pitches start to freeze over and the fixture list gets interesting. 😉

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  30. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    14 years, 1 month ago

    Any advice for transfer this week? 1 freebie and 1.1m in the bank. Don't mind taking hits for DGWers...

    Westwood
    Verm, Caulker, JEvans
    Nani, Bale, Ramsey, Sinclair
    RVP, Rooney, Adebayor

    Ruddy, Reo-Coker, Wilko, Simpson

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    1. yanky
      • 16 Years
      14 years, 1 month ago

      id verm evans > baines bae if u can

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