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9 August 2017 2131 comments
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Romelu Lukaku scores, but Manchester United are comfortably second best to a fluent Real Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup.

Manchester United 1 Real Madrid 2

Statistics often find themselves the wrong side of damned lies, and so it proved in the UEFA Super Cup.

Man United and Real Madrid had six shots on target each in a match controlled by the Spanish giants pretty much from first whistle to last.

David de Gea had to pull off a number of fine saves, while his opposite number Keylor Navas most assuredly did not, although the mess he made of one effort led to United’s goal.

The Madrid keeper could only parry the influential Nemanja Matic’s shot straight to Romelu Lukaku, who pounced on the rebound to halve a two-goal deficit entirely in keeping with Madrid’s dominance.

The Belgian striker, at 48.7% the most popular player in Fantasy Premier League, had an average night, but his goal will at least keep him and his large Fantasy entourage happy enough ahead of what should be a rather less testing fixture at home to West Ham on Sunday.

Paul Pogba’s owners won’t be in such high spirits, however. The signing of Matic was meant to unleash the attacking threat of the Frenchman, owned by 23.3% of FPL managers, and he did have one fine chance – a free header – that he put too close to Navas. Lukaku’s effort from the rebound was even worse.

In fact, it was Matic himself who stole the show in the United midfield, and his occasional forays forward will have encouraged the 12.1% of FPL managers who have opted for his budget 5.0 charms.

Henrikh Mkhitaryan was an occasionally sparky presence, while Pogba’s decision-making was badly off at times.

The former finishes pre-season with three goals and as many assists, Pogba just the one assist.

And yet the Armenian appears in a mere 6.1% of FPL squads despite costing exactly the same – 8.0 – as his big-name team-mate. In the Sky Sports game, the Frenchman, at 11.2m, is 1.2m pricier. Both will need to improve on Sunday.

Jose Mourinho again opted for a three-man defence, using Matteo Darmian alongside Chris Smalling and Victor Lindelof, with both Eric Bailly and Phil Jones serving European bans.

The 9.0%-owned Lindelof again failed to impress, switching off for Madrid’s opening goal, with Mourinho’s pre-match comments suggesting that the Swede was played out of necessity.

“Lindelof came from a big club with a completely different level in terms of responsibility and I would prefer to give him a little more time but we have no alternative with two players lost to suspension and Marcos Rojo is injured, so we go with Victor.”

The Red Devils defence always looks considerably more secure with Bailly in it and he will surely walk back into the side for the West Ham match. Who his partner will be remains to be seen, although the smart money is surely on Jones, who at 5.0, could well be an early season option given Lindelof’s struggles.

Another well-owned asset, Antonio Valencia (8.2%), put in a strong showing and looked particularly dangerous going forward at wing-back, although Marcelo – never the greatest of defensive full-backs – perhaps helped him out with that.

But one player who did not impress was Jesse Lingard. The United midfielder was used extensively by Mourinho during pre-season and started in a left wing-back role but looked lost.

Forty-five uninspiring minutes later, Mourinho brought on Marcus Rashford in his place and he provided a pace and intensity on the left flank so badly lacking in the first half.

The youngster did fail to take one of the few clear-cut chances United had all night, but he could well have done enough to merit inclusion for Sunday’s season opener. At just 7.5 in FPL (he is a rather steeper 11.1m in Sky), Rashford offers genuine value for money – if he gets consistent pitch-time.

That’s a big if, however, and sacrificing what could be a premium United pick on a player who doesn’t start regularly carries obvious risk.

Despite the defeat, Mourinho was bullish post-match:

“I’m really happy to be with them and I’m going to fight with them all the way, so let’s go on Sunday. Old Trafford is waiting for us and I think Old Trafford has a reason to be behind us.”

He also spoke of his continued experiment with a three-man defence…

“We used pre-season to work and try to improve things we already do and develop things we don’t do. Lots of teams are playing with three defenders and wing-backs and we played like that against Sampdoria and LA Galaxy because it’s something that maybe during the season we are going to do.”

It remains to be seen if we see the system against West Ham on Sunday. Certainly, as a wing-back, Valencia’s stock should be improved, although the role on the left appears to be a problem area. It will also open up another spot for a central defender – another factor that could aid Jones’ cause.

Manchester United: De Gea; Smalling, Lindelof, Darmian; Valencia, Herrera (Fellaini 56), Matic, Pogba, Lingard; (Rashford 46), Mkhitaryan; Lukaku.
Subs not used: Romero, Mata, Martial, Carrick, Blind.

  1. Ghost Gooner
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    5 is overkill. 4 is ideal as the drop off in quality is less steep

    ie

    Hennessy
    Kolasinac Danilo Dawson
    Salah Willian Ritchie Fraser
    Kane (v) Lukaku (c) Jesus

    Elliott TC TAA Hunemeier

  2. GE
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Riski to have T. Carroll as 4th mid in this team?

    Foster
    Alonso/Kompany/Daniels/Yoshida
    DeBruyne/Mane/Alli/T. Carroll
    Lukaku/Jesus

    Bench: Elliott, Romeu, Gamez, Quaner

    1. NachoMan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      TC is this seasons Capoue

      1. GE
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Hopefully 😉

    2. Tshelby
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Like your starting XL

      1. GE
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks 🙂

    3. FPLtfs
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Wouldn't want to start him every week. Personally i'm going to rotate Carrol / Daniels depending on fixtures. Check it out

      1. GE
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I know the risk, but so tempting to have Mane and TC instead of the risk of Zaha+Willian...

      2. GE
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Can I see your team?

    4. @fpl_phenom
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Great team! I'd get Utd defensive cover personally via
      Alonso - Kolasinac
      &
      Foster - DDG

      1. GE
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks 🙂
        Don't fancy premium gk - can't see the value..

    5. Yes Don
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      ish. Yeah.

      In order to get a decent 4-4-2 you need to downgrade Alonso & Kompany - To say Trippier & Jones/Bertrand and upgrade TC

      1. GE
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Thanks 🙂

        Trippier is injured, maybe Danilo/Davies untilTrippier is fit?

        The moves you suggest would free up 2.5 to upgrade T. Carroll to Zaha/Willian/Fab. You think it's worth it? Alonso is a gift IMO.

    6. Ghost Gooner
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Basically it comes down to Alonso

      Alonso(7.0)/Carroll(4.5) 11.5
      VS
      Kolasinac(6.0)/Fraser(5.5) 11.5

      1. GE
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        That one is easy for me.

        Don't think Fraser will outscore Fraser with that many points...

        For me it's
        Mane and T. Carroll vs. Zaha+Willian or Pogba+Richie..What do you think then?

        1. Boris Bodega
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          I would be amazed if Fraser outscored himself too. 😉

        2. Ghost Gooner
          • 12 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Fraser had 100pts v Carroll 52 last season. I reckon Kolasinac wouldnt be 48pts behind Alonso. So I am guess Kola/Fraser would yield more pts

          Mane/Caroll 208
          V Zaha/Willian 263
          V Pogba(115)/Richie(?) is trickier because Richie wasnt in the prem last year.

          So my money is on Zaha/Willian in this instance

          1. GE
            • 9 Years
            8 years, 4 months ago

            The numbers you have there is not comparable:

            16/17 - points per 90 min

            Mane: (156/2242)*90 = 6.26

            T. Carroll:
            (52/1389)*90 = 3.37

            Zaha:
            (149/3019)*90 = 4.44

            Willian:
            (114/1534)*90 = 6.69

            1) Mane+T. Carroll:
            6.26 + 3.37 = 9.63

            2) Willian+Zaha
            6.69+4.44 = 11.13

            You probably Zaha+Willian is better pick, but T. Carroll looks like the new Siggy and Willian is not nailed..

  3. @fpl_phenom
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Mee/ Carroll / RLC rotating,

    How's it looking guys? Think I'm done.

    DDG
    Kompany Kolasinac Yoshida
    KDB Salah Willian RLC(gw1)
    Kane Lukaku(C) Mounie

    Elliot Carroll Mee Long

    1. MGD
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      How nailed on is Yoshida?

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Assuming back 4 of
        Cedric Yosh Stephens Bertrand

        VVD won't play for the team.

        Why wouldn't he play?
        Slight chance Cedric might miss Gw1 that's why I went Yoshida.

    2. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      10/10

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        🙂

    3. Salah Fingers
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Nice team, what happens if RLC doesn't start?

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        Have Carroll and Mee as back up

      2. @fpl_phenom
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        But he will

        1. Salah Fingers
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 4 months ago

          Yeh it's a very good team, same as mine except i have Daniels and JWP instead of Kompany and RLC, yours looks better with rlc starting 😉

  4. NachoMan
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Bottomed...
    Just tried dropping Kaku and this is what happens.

    Brutally honest thoughts please?

    Foster/Elliot

    Daniels, Dann, Berty, Kolasinac {Hunemeir)

    Mkhitaryan, Willian, KDB {Milivojevic, Carroll}

    Firmino, Kane, Jesus

  5. The Man Pastore
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    I made few changes in my team, what's your thoughts?

    Foster Elliot
    Valencia Stephens Yoshida Francis Hunemeier
    Alli Mane Zaha TCarroll Chalobah
    Kane Jesus Firmino

    Ian doubling on SOU def too much?
    Cheers!

    1. Arctic_Orangutans
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Yeah I wouldn't Double sou defence

    2. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Bit light in midfield, but having Kane demands that. Nice team.

  6. Release The Ox
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Probably been covered to death but apart from Rangel, is there any 4.0 def who looks likely to get starts??

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Not yet and neither will Rangel as far as i know.

  7. Sionnoble
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Please RMT, any help appreciated...

    De Gea
    Cedric Monreal Danilo
    Salah De Bruyne Willian JWP
    Kane Lukaku JRod

    Elliot Dummett Mason Carroll

    Danilo in whilst Mendy injured, unsure about Monreal

    1. drughi
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      willian>zaha and monreal>bertrand and you are sorted

  8. Arctic_Orangutans
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    So who's going Jesus over Kaku? I'm tempted

    1. Whats the Mata?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Same, tempted. But most likely wont.
      Can easily downgrade Kaku to Jesus. But not so much the opposite

      1. Arctic_Orangutans
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        I think city will score a lot more goals than us which is why I'm tempted

    2. drughi
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      yes very tempting, think he will match lukaku but the 50% ownership is just to scary

  9. Ógie
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Has anyone got a link to a good goalkeeper rotation article or sticky?

  10. Bojan Kurbalija
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    RMT

    GK: Begovic / Pickford
    DF: Cedric / Valencia / Davies / Ake / Manquillo
    MF: KDB / Alli / Salah / Ward-Prowse / Matic
    FW: Kane / Abraham / Chicharito

  11. Daniel Exeter
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Man these pages!

    Alexander-Arnold - Clyne replacement.

    Clyne due back 19th Aug?
    How many pre season games has AA played?
    Whats to stop Milner playing RB and the new guy/Moreno playing LB?

  12. NestorC
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Bottomed

    Which one is better

    A) DDG Dawson
    B) Foster Kola

    Cheers

  13. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Who is more nailed?

    A) Monreal

    B) Mustafi

    1. Arctic_Orangutans
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Mon

    2. Boris Bodega
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A

    3. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A atm

  14. Salah'd n Sauce
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Assume no other mid/fwd cover for these teams... which is the best combo.

    A : Lukaku + Alli

    B : Pogba + Kane

    1. Arctic_Orangutans
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A

    3. Salah'd n Sauce
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I currently have A... but keeping an eye on B as a potential. Also opens up 0.5 in funds!

      50/50 on votes so far

    4. Salah'd n Sauce
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Doing some silly number crunching and the stats for last year show that :

      Alli/Lukaku combo is ~0.1418 points per min
      Kane / Pogba combo is ~0.1329 points per min (+ 0.5m itb to invest)

      Food for thought.

  15. klopp it guys
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Thank im ready please leave a feedback and rate my team

    Foster

    Valencia, daniels, yoshida

    Willian, de bruyne, salah, fraser

    Kane, lukaku, Gabbiadini

    Bench: elliot, carroll, long, rangel

  16. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Pretty confident on Jones starting for United.
    He's in my team straight away. 0.5m itb if stuff doesnt work out just in case(which is unlikely).

  17. Positive vibes
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Hi guys, hope you can join H2H league just for fun, 39887-105173.

    Thx you.

  18. Sarri-ball
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Is kane essential?

    1. Whats the Mata?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      After his hattrick against Newcastle in gw1, yes.

    2. klopp it guys
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Thats like asking if you get a burger should you get the meat in it

    3. @fpl_phenom
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Yes , plus if he's not you can change him easily to any other premium striker for gw2 ....

  19. Gunners.The.Best
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    A) Alonso Eriksen Lacazette
    B) Kompany Salah Kane

  20. Alan_T
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Best option for one of my draft leagues?

    A) Mounie
    B) Austin
    C) Abraham
    D) J Rod

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      C.

  21. Mike2795647
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Please RMT, keep changing my mind. Currently set on the below but unsure if I need to change Benteke and Gabbi to Firmino and Gayle or other £6.5m striker or even drop Zaha for Richie to free up another £1m

    Foster / (Hart)
    Montreal / Daniels / Lindelof / (Rangel) / (Lejeune)
    De Bruyne / Alli / Zaha / Salah / (Carroll)
    Lukaku / Benteke / Gabbiadini

  22. NOVARDYNOPARTY
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Please RMT - Think I'm sorted after like my 10th time..

    Foster
    Kolas / Yosh / Daniels
    KDB / Zaha / Willian / Ritchie
    Kane / Lukaku / Firm

    Elliot / Mee / Carroll / Hunemei

    Will Firm always start up top for Liverpool?

  23. Salah Fingers
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    GTG?

    DDG (Elliot)

    Kola - Stephens - Daniels (Mee - Hunmeier)

    KDB - Salah - Zaha - JWP (Carroll)

    Lukaku - Mounie - Kane

  24. FPL Maldini
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    I think Monreal is being overlooked a bit. Looks like he will be playing the Azpi role of last year and I think he could be a major BAP magnet at 5.5

    1. LC1
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      I agree.. I have him in my team and am confused as to why he's not been mentioned in many others?

      1. General_Zod
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 4 months ago

        kola and mon both play left back. rotation risk for both and kola poss long term upgrade.

  25. MartialMatas
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    What do you think of this "set and forget" team?

    Heaton
    Bailly Trippier Bertrand
    Alli Salah Zaha Lanzini
    Lukaku(vc) Jesus(c) Vokes
    Elliot Carroll Mee Suttner

  26. jmcclory123
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Alonso and Francis

    or

    Danilo and Luiz

    1. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      A&F will last you longer.

  27. Malinwa
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Comments pls:

    Foster (Elliot)
    Cédric-Dann-Kolasinac (Hunemeier-Aké)
    Salah-Alli-Redmond-Willian (LoftusCheek)
    Gabbiadini - Lacazette - Kane

    Thanks!!

  28. You've got red on you.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Who would you rather have?

    Kane, KDB and JRod

    Jesus, Alli and Firmino

    1. Whats the Mata?
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      B

    2. drughi
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      tough one but kane is kane so first one

    3. Bun Rab
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      B of those two.

  29. JimmyB
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    It is mad to go without Kane or Lukaku

    1. Arctic_Orangutans
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      It's V risky

  30. Miami Monkey
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 4 months ago

    Salah / Mkhi
    Kane / Aguero / Gabbi

    vs.

    Eriksen / Zaha
    Lukaku / Jesus / Firmino

    (Both variations have Alli)

    1. Miami Monkey
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 4 months ago

      Sorry, remove Aguero. Both with Jesus