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The first Gameweek deadline of the season is now just hours away and our community writers have been busy sharing their thoughts on the urgent issues to consider, such as where to find value and whether to trust players from promoted sides.

For our Hot Topic posters, this week has been a final chance to collect the raft of data from pre-season and help address concerns such as the best defenders to draft in and whether Paul Pogba will be capable of finding the net in 2017/18.

Southampton’s backline comes under scrutiny in our Members’ tables round-up and finally, there’s a reminder to sign up to a new team-based community competition.

The Community Articles

Hutch_James has been canvassing the opinion of thousands of football fans on where Fantasy managers should be investing their 100m Fantasy Premier League budget. According to his analysis, Manchester City looks the sure-fire place to find goal scorers in Gameweek 1.

Investing in the likes of Kevin De Bruyne and Gabriel Jesus is costly though, which is why Red Arrows’ insight into how to get the biggest bang for your buck will come in handy.

Those looking at Spurs’ pricey assets are advised to read FPL Poker Players analysis of which Spurs players are likely to suffer most when they play at Wembley – the North Londoners’ temporary home this summer.

Similar buyer beware warnings are the theme of Firetogs article on players from promoted sides Huddersfield, Brighton and Newcastle.

There are no such fears of failure surrounding Southampton, who embark on a stellar run of games that stretches well into autumn. FPL Chief dropped by to cast his eye over a trio of Saints to consider as they kick off the season at St Mary’s with a visit from Swansea City.

Elsewhere, Milvus has submitted his latest analysis of the winners and losers in the pre-season FPL transfer market, while Cisco Kid served up four top tips on making Fantasy Draft leagues fun.

Finally, congratulations to Prokoptas ,who has scooped the accolade of Community Writer of the Month for July and a £20 Amazon voucher after our latest vote, for his examination of the Plexiglas Principle and how it can be used to predict an upturn in fortunes for last year’s poor performing teams.

His talents have also been acknowledged by us and this week we saw the publication of his analysis of Arsenal’s Community Shield performance, which is the first of many articles we have asked him to write for the site’s main pages this season.

Don’t forget, if you’ve got some analysis, scout reports or features brewing, be sure to visit our community section to submit your article.

The Hottest Topics

Gameweek 1 is a minefield. It is the set of fixtures which Fantasy managers have the most time to prepare for, but we also have the least knowledge to hand, with no recent competitive Premier League form to review.

Nevertheless, analysis of pre-season performances can be a useful guide and already many of the community have used this to alter their opinion about certain players and teams, according to Sleep Talk’s Hot Topic on the summer schedule.

A prime example is a drop in interest for Paul Pogba, who some are now doubting will ever become the rampaging midfield dynamo he has threatened to be at times. Certainly, the inclusion of Nemanja Matic in a defensive midfield role for Manchester United has done little to unleash the Frenchman on opposition defences, says theBoose’s analysis of the Red Devil’s 2-1 Super Cup loss to Real Madrid.

There were also questions raised in our discussion on last Sunday’s Community Shield on whether Arsenal striker Alexandre Lacazette will hit the ground running following his lacklustre attacking display.

At least both Pogba and Lacazette are set to start, even if they may not get on the scoresheet, according to Couti and the Below5th’s incredible round-up of minutes played over pre-season.

There was further chat about pre-season from Bowstring the Carp, who has put together his own opus, having collected all the key manager quotes over the summer, and Lyonaais, who has been getting his abacus out to compile a FFScout template team from mentions in rate my team posts.

In addition, Evs dropped by to offer a timely reminder that for every success story from pre-season, like Swansea’s goal scoring midfielder Michu, there is also Wigan’s Mario Boselli, who excelled in friendlies over the summer of 2010 but did not find the net in the Premier League until late October that year.

Marcos Alonso has scored over Chelsea’s summer schedule, but he hardly needed that strike against Bayern Munich in July to prove his Fantasy credentials.

But why, Granville wonders, are so many shunning him and instead recruiting his midfield team mate Willian, who is also priced at 7.0 but gets less clean sheet points. Trogg’s Hot Topic on defence spend certainly indicates Alonso is not a popular pick among the community.

As Enzo the Baker points out, even if premium defenders like Alonso let down their suitors, at least their hefty price tags can be put to good use by being sacrificed to divert cash into emerging midfield assets.

Among cheaper defenders that could prove worthwhile replacements for underperforming premium defenders is Southampton’s Jack Stephens, who has the edge over his team-mate Maya Yoshida, according to responses to Keno’s discussion on the Saints backline.

Scott Dann, Crystal Palace’s 5.0 priced central defender who has scored in his last six Premier League campaigns, is another to consider, suggests Whazza.

There is clearly a wealth of options in defence this year, but the same cannot really be said of third striker options.

Our forward thinking Hot Topic laments the lack of worthwhile options  in the 6.0 to 8.0 price bracket, although Ludo points out that Bournemouth’s Josh King (7.5) may just be unfairly overlooked since his reclassification from midfielder to striker.

Just above that price bracket sits Jamie Vardy (8.5) of Leicester, who was a controversial ‘Fantasy Island Risk’ Scoutcast pick by Disable for Gameweek 1. His co-hosts’ displeasure at this former heavy hitter being classed as a risk prompted this discussion on how we should better define a risk on future episodes.

There are certainly lots of options for risk takers among cheap midfielders, says Andy85wsm, including Swansea midfielder Tom Carroll, who has excelled in pre-season and Lilmessipran believes Fantasy managers are underestimating due to his lowly 4.5 price tag.

The amount of time and mental energy being used up by the community in the search of the perfect Gameweek 1 team can be frustrating sight for their friends and families. But as Tamagotchi’s discussion on how Fantasy management is viewed by the outside world, most loved ones are understanding of our obsession.

That is perhaps until the time reaches today’s 6:45pm deadline and the panic levels increase. Our community was on hand with some key advice to tackle such last minute nerves and ensure all the summer’s careful planning is not wasted.

To view all our discussions please visit our Hot Topics page.

The Members’ Tables

For those struggling to select the best Southampton defender, I’ve constructed this table looking at statistics such as baseline bonus and CBI, and FPL Virgin has also being delving into the Saints rearguard’s key figures.

If you’re a member and are yet to get to grips with the custom statistics tables, you can view this movie for an explanation of how they work. Also, remember to tag them so that people can find the tables with ease.

The Community Tournaments

Those running the Community Watch tournament have asked us to remind you that the deadline for their team-based tournament is approaching. Those wanting to take part as a manager have until August 14 to put their name forward. The deadline for taking part as a player is August 21.

If you are running a community tournament and would like the latest scores included in future Community Round-ups, please email us a summary of the current leaders and a link to your league, spreadsheet or head to head competition, at jonty@fantasyfootballscout.co.uk.

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  1. Mauricios Cappuccino
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on risking playing Cedric (and having suttner as first sub) ?

    1. FPL ZB
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Suttner could go negative

  2. eduk
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Is Foster really the stand out 4.5 GK option? I know the fixtures are good, but they have injuries, played badly last year, and haven't exactly been great in pre-season (for what that's worth).

    Bournemouth GK looks undecided but that may be a better option once settled?

    Fabianski looks good to me. Couple of tough fixtures but rotates well with Elliot (assuming Elliot is nailed).

    Hart could do well? Good opening fixtures.

    Gomes, but not such a good rotation with Elliot.

    1. Count of Monte Hristo
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      They began to play badly in the second half of the season. They were a great source of points at the start of last season particularly in defence.

    2. L'Aeroplanino
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      on flappyhand atm

    3. Razor425
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Do you really want a Swansea keeper/defender in your team??

  3. Galza
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Ok, here goes.....
    FoRster
    Dann,Dawson,Ake
    KDB,Pedro,Mikhi,Walters
    Kane,Laca,Firminho
    Elliot,Mee,Long,TC
    I know all the other alternatives. Settled on this. Not like much else I've seen and that's why I like it...

    1. G-Whizz
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      You changed anything since the last time I looked?

      1. Galza
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        No mate. Still not a lot swaying me...

      2. Galza
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Promise.. I will try not to post it again......... for at least 2 hours anyway. 😉

        1. G-Whizz
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          • 8 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Good! Was just checking, imo you've reached the summit (I've got one small peak to climb) where you can survey the scenery, exhale deeply and chill.

          Log off and don't come back until 18:46 😆

          1. Galza
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 5 months ago

            Thanks G-W. Will pop down the shop and get the lagers in the fridge ready for the off.... Should be nicely chilled...like me...... come game time. 🙂

          2. Galza
            • 8 Years
            8 years, 5 months ago

            What's your small peak??

            1. G-Whizz
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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              • 8 Years
              8 years, 5 months ago

              Nice! Stick one in the fridge for me lol
              The final hill to climb is this...

              Foster
              Alonso, Kolasinac, Danilo, TAA, (TFM).

              Toying with swapping out a £4.5m def for Hegazi as he'll start and want to make the most out of his opportunities until McAuley comes back or I can just go £4m junk with Dawson in right now but if I do that it "robs" me of having a defender so not sure the sacrifice is worth the risk 😆

              Decisions decisions lol

              1. Galza
                • 8 Years
                8 years, 5 months ago

                Tough one. Try TAA to Dann rather than Dawson as you have Foster. Any 4 mil on bench.

                1. G-Whizz
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 5 months ago

                  I want the double up in defence while I can and no I've got Elliott as my only 4m lol

                  1. Galza
                    • 8 Years
                    8 years, 5 months ago

                    Sorry must of read it wrong. To be honest I feel like I've read the lord of the rings triology twice over today. I find the double up to risky but lovely when it comes off

                2. G-Whizz
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                  • 8 Years
                  8 years, 5 months ago

                  So that's why I would do Dawson (had McAuley last year). No worries I'll figure it out, just need to remember it's a marathon not a sprint, I'm sure someone no one has thought about will emerge and I'll just jump on that bandwagon and sort it out from there 😀

                  1. Galza
                    • 8 Years
                    8 years, 5 months ago

                    See above.

                    1. G-Whizz
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                      • 8 Years
                      8 years, 5 months ago

                      Risky yes but as you say, oh so beautiful when it comes off. Eff it, going down the mad route and get Hegazi. I know you got Ake but wouldn't it be something if it finished something like this:

                      WBA 1 Bournemouth 0 (Dawson/Hegazi)
                      Southampton 1 Swansea 1 (Redmond - Carroll)

                      That would put the cat amongst the pidgeons with everyone going for (understandably) Southampton defenders 😆

  4. Leeds2116
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Team is done

    Foster Elliot
    PVA Bertrand Mee Daniels Long
    Ritchie KDB Willian Zaha Carroll
    Firmino Kane Lukaku.

    good luck all

  5. Count of Monte Hristo
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Are Matic/Xhaka worth considering for a cheap 4th midfielder or are they too defensive minded?

    Just thinking they have a good shot on them from distance.

    1. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I wouldn't be considering them.

    2. pilgrimchris
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      i've got xhaka as my 4th mid, but i'll freely admit its a bit of a punt

    3. Lord.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I've got Matic/Carroll as my 4th/5th mids and am happy to play either.

  6. supersham
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    BOOM.. That's me done and dusted. Very best of luck everyone.

    My starting XI

    Foster

    Danilo Bert Daniels

    De Bruyne Mane Willian Philips

    Luk Jesus Tekkers

    Balls out with no spurs but thats what WC are for!

    1. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I would go Davies and Yoshida instead of Bertrand and Daniels.

      1. supersham
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks pal but im sticking with this. G'luck

        1. kennethrhcp
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          agreed! stick

    2. shady4revr
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      bench?

  7. Jonny HOW SON?
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    A. Mane + Gross
    B. Salah + Ritchie

    1. OBAMA
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      BBBB

    2. DV8R
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      B

    3. istanbul05
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      B

  8. OBAMA
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Foster

    Bellerin / Bertrand / Daniels

    Alli / KDB / Salah / Ritchie

    Lukaku / Jesus / JRod

    What do you think?

    1. OBAMA
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      (Salah Captain)

    2. Guybrush Threepwood
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Like it

    3. Forza Papac
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I see a Pulis striker..

  9. F4L
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Watford 0 - 3 Liverpool (Mane 12', 34', Salah 65')

    1. Athletic Nasherbo
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      I wish.

    2. Helia
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Firmino assist
      Firmino assist
      Firmino assist

  10. Whazza
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    5 Arsenal matches moved due to TV selection. Will any impact FPL?

    https://www.arsenal.com/news/five-matches-moved-due-tv-selection

    1. stilicho
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      No

    2. Arteta
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Nope, we just finally found out the date & hour of match against Everton.

  11. Knowledgeable meerkat
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    JWP owners

    we are sticking, right?

  12. Guybrush Threepwood
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Final dilemma - Danilo or Monreal?

  13. GuillermoDickero
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    How many games is Abraham good for?

    1. Whazza
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Srsly think he is first choice with Llorente

      1. GuillermoDickero
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Really? Could be a decent shout

      2. GuillermoDickero
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Is he a loan signing?

        1. Whazza
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          He is. Priced higher than Ayew so would think he is before him in the pecking order. Also banging them in in preseason while Ayew has done sod all

  14. boc610
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    can anybody for the love of god please explain how draft league works? can you potentially have a completely different team each week?,
    if first pick in GWK 1 gets kane, can he stick with him next? sorry if thats a really dumb question but im honestly lost!..keep getting whats apps from mates asking 'WTF is this ??'

  15. Karan_G14
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on my final team?

    Foster
    Ake - Stephens - Cedric
    KDB - Mkhi - Zaha - Ritchie
    Kane - Lukaku - Firmino

    (Elliot - Carroll - Suttner - 4.0)

    I've been on the double Soton defence since the start so don't hate me on that not changing it!

    1. Evasivo
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Cedric>Dawson

      Have you considered Lukaku>Jesus/Aguero?

      1. Karan_G14
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        No I'd rather double up on Soton defence.

        1. Evasivo
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Fair enough, Lukaku>Jesus/Aguero?

    2. MTPockets
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Looks good. Not sure about Mkhi personally.

        1. Karan_G14
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          I'm sure about him I think.

    3. Evasivo
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Anyone going Lukakuless?

      1. Oven Glover
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Yes

      2. darkmatt3r
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Me, for now anyway

      3. Whazza
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Yup Jesus here

      4. Arteta
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        If I get Agüero, yes.

      5. Evasivo
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        I'm thinking Jesus or Aguero but unsure which if I do

    4. Deece
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      A) Salah + KDB + FIRMINO
      B) Salah + SILVA + JESUS

      Will either be double city or double pool. I was very impressed with silva in friendly vs West Ham.

      1. Neevesy
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        A

      2. OBAMA
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        'b

      3. Herc
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        David or Bernardo?

    5. Numb
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Has West Ham's press conference happened yet? Wondering what's the latest on Lanzini and Arnautovic.

    6. Next year
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      No love for Jonjo? You'll probably get loads of cards, but also assists and some goals. At least he's never boring.

    7. bitm2007
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      FPL draft starting in 25 minutes, two more players needed.

      League code 663726-151250

    8. Zlat-man
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      For a draft league.

      Go Sterling.
      A. Keep

      or

      B. Replace with Mirallas (Ritchie, Ince, Fraser are available too)

      1. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Keep if you've got a starting 11 without him.

        1. Zlat-man
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Have to play 5 deffenders or 4 deffender + Mooney (Hud forwar)

          1. ZLNR
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 5 months ago

            I'd hold then Mounie should get goals here or there too

    9. arndff_
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Is it a big risk to go without any Arsenal coverage?

      1. Reuser
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Don't think so, there isn't a huge amount of value there.

        Having said that, I have Monreal (couldn't afford Kolosanic). Decent fixtures over the next couple of months and the new formation is capable of clean sheets.

      2. Champione
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Not when thinking about the ownership of Arsenal assets. Wait and see imo. Too many options up front to include Lacazette from gw1

      3. arndff_
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        I had Kolasinac for some time but just done this:
        Kolasinac, Yoshida, Mounie > Suttner, Bertrand, Gabbiadini

    10. Champione
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Thoughts regarding potential rotation for Liverpool assets around CL qualification? Solanke to take game time from Firmino and Mane to get rested due to short pre season? Salat most nailed?

      1. A.T
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Can't see Solanke featuring. Mané reduced minutes sounds plausible.

        1. Athletic Nasherbo
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          You've just made me think now because I have Mane...

          1. Champione
            • 10 Years
            8 years, 5 months ago

            This!

        2. Champione
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Cheers. Think I'll do Mane>Salah

      2. Tiamani Warrior
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        All guesswork but I was thinking this

        1. Champione
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Cheers

    11. A.T
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Are you ignoring West Brom at your peril? Take no notice of pre season they said. It's just about getting their fitness they said. So why with those nice fixtures have people dismissed the West Brom assets?

      1. G-Whizz
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Doubled up here 😆

        1. A.T
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Same. Bad idea this mate. 😀

          1. G-Whizz
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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            • 8 Years
            8 years, 5 months ago

            You posted your team yet and if not are you going to? 😆
            I'm trying really hard not to but mine still doesn't feel right.

            1. G-Whizz
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              • 8 Years
              8 years, 5 months ago

              trying really hard not to tinker*

      2. Evasivo
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        I'm on Foster Myhill, so wouldn't invest in more Def and JRod the only other worthwhile asset and can't have him taking a spot where a top striker could be

        1. G-Whizz
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          • 8 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Makes sense!

          I'm toying with tripling up with Myhill but scared Elliott will rise in value once people see he actually plays :/

      3. antis0cial
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        I'm not convinced how strong their squad is in general, especially at the back.

    12. boombaba
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      whats that Gross like at brighton? supposed to be decent player

      1. bitm2007
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Most key passes in the Bundesliga for the last two season for just 5.5m, he's in my team.

        1. DV8R
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Fraser -> Gross in GW3

    13. antis0cial
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      Pages flying by, will try once more:

      A: Gabbi & 4.5 Mid (Chalobah as have Carrol)
      B: Tammy Abraham & Ritchie

      Which you think will be best please?

      1. Herc
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        B but only just

    14. Simon Says...
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 5 months ago

      The main reason I'm excited for the season to start is so I stop tinkering with my team.

      1. MTPockets
          8 years, 5 months ago

          Yeah bring on the deadline.

      2. Miami Monkey
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Has Suttner been on freekicks for BHA during preseason?

      3. Mortiis
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Hart
        Monreal Stephens Daniels Mee
        De Bruyne Willian Zaha
        Jesus Kane Lukaku
        Elliott Loftus-Cheek Carroll Long

        Thinking about this team, any opinions?

      4. F4L
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 5 months ago

        Not long now 🙂