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The men in black have been a prominent talking point leading up to Gameweek 13 after Everton’s Oumar Niasse become the first player to be handed a two-match ban for a ‘Successful Deception of a Match Official’.

As featured in the first iteration of our members’ Men in Black article last week, though, Anthony Taylor – the referee who awarded the Toffees’ spot-kick against Crystal Palace – had previous when it came to awarding penalties.

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  1. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Those of you with Kane and Lukaku who are you captaining and why?

    1. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Kane.

      Because Kane.

    2. JustPark
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Kaku. His form slightly assuring than Kane. But I'm on Kane though. No other choice.

    3. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      I have both and my cap is Sane. Have Kane vice, because he more often scores big, when he does click.

    4. Forever In Our Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Kane. West Brom have Gary Megson at the helm. Not good.

    5. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Have both Kane and Kanu but am captaining Sane.

      Think any of them could do well but more upside with midfielders (assists, clean sheets, 5 points for a goal).

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        Yes I would do same but requires -4 so on Kaku for now as just feel Kane slightly off the pace coping with knee which cannot be 100% with that strapping on it.

  2. Forever In Our Shadow
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Eriksen and sterling to
    Sane and D Silva / Pogba?
    Free.

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Eriksen to Sane for City double up and carry free. I think Sterling very likely to start as less game time than BSilva in CL game

    2. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      I wouldn't swap Sterling for Sane, I think the price gap is too big now and Sterling could easily outscore him.

    3. Like an Egyptian Magician
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      I'd only do eriksen to Sane and keep sterling.

  3. rnrd
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    I have Lukaku and Kane as captain options and I think fixture/form/set pieces gives a 50/50 result.

    So I am coming down to another consideration. i currently am in the top 10K and actually think about captaining Lukaku for the only reason that it is a better « defensive » bet against the rest of the field.

    I mean, Lukaku ownership and potentiel haul would hurt less than a less owned Kane haul right ?

    Or maybe this us biased by the fact that lukaku ownership percentage comes from a lot or dead teams?

    1. suddenorgan
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      at the start of last gameweek it was Kane 47.8%, Lukaku 45.8% in the top 10k, I imagine in the top 50k (i.e. people who could catch you) or so it's pretty similar..

    2. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Depends on whether you want to tread water or make ground. Don't think Kane's ownership is very high at all relatively, in the top 10k.

      1. Monkey Hanger
        • 12 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        Apologies. Markloe is correct. I was looking at the wrong GW. if it helps 26% of top 10k capt Kaku, 19.8% capt Kane last GW.

        1. suddenorgan
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 14 days ago

          which given the fixtures would suggest there'll be more Kane (c) than Lukaku this week

  4. Badger Badger Mushroom Mush…
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Pope
    Davies Jones Daniels
    Salah Alli Sterling Richarlison
    Kane (c) Aguero Abraham

    Elliot Ward Carroll Mbemba

    Would you do Aguero to Morata now, or save the free transfer and do it next week?

    Transfers next week will be;
    Aguero > Morata
    Davies > Alonso
    Alli > Hazard

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Do now as Aguero not likely to start

    2. @NF_Janner
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Niw

    3. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      now. no point waiting, especially if it's free this week.

  5. Karan_G14
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Score predictions

    West Ham - Leicester
    Newcastle - Watford

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      1-1
      1-2

    2. Forever In Our Shadow
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      0-0
      2-2

    3. Old Wulfrunian
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      3-2
      3-2

    4. lugs
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      1-2
      1-2

    5. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      0-3
      1-2

    6. mdm
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      2-0
      1-3

    7. The White Pele
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      2-3
      0-2

    8. Pariße
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      0-0
      0-0

  6. Demel
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    1)Anything worth a hit (I am a bit worried about fielding a ful XI).

    2) Who would you captain?

    Elliott
    Ake - Jones - Moreno
    Hazard - Sanchez - Zaha - Richarlson
    Aguero - Kane - Wilson

    Myhill - RLC - Ferminia - Huhnmeier

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      save, Kane.

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Jones to Otamendi and you will be at least + 2 points?

      1. Demel
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 15 days ago

        No cash and bought at 5m. No can do without an 8 point hit.

      2. Patio Kev
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        I'd rid of Jones just to make sure you can field 11.

        Charlie Daniels for the next few would be my pick.,

    3. bench boost for every gamew…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      eleven players you will field

      Kun probably substitute so 12 i guess.

  7. Gooner Kebab
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    I have TC and Barry - who should i replace RLC with, for a hit?

    1. JustPark
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      What have you done?

      1. XabiAlonso
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 15 days ago

        😆

        1. Gooner Kebab
          • 13 Years
          8 years, 14 days ago

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Why would you keep TC ahead of RLC?

      1. Gooner Kebab
        • 13 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        I wanna get RLC to replace either TC or Barry

    3. @NF_Janner
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Not worth a hit

  8. COLLIN QUANER
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Kun >

    a) Morata
    b) Kaku

    Morata is the better pick over the coming weeks, however I'm worried about having no Utd cover this week.
    I have Hazard.

    1. Lukakuna
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      A, think long term

      1. COLLIN QUANER
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        Yes very true.

        I think my rival having Kaku has put me in this predicament.

        Morata is the logical pick.

    2. melvinmbabazi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      b

    3. Like an Egyptian Magician
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Morata cuz anyways ManU cover is served more efficiently thru Pogba and/or a defender..

  9. Mesh
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Mustafi has only started once in the last 5 GW's.
    Is he likely to keep his starting place?

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      He's been injured.

      1. Mesh
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 15 days ago

        Yea that's what I mean.
        Do you think he will play every game with the congested fixture list after just coming back from injury?

        1. Twisted Saltergater
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 14 days ago

          If he stays fit, yep. His PPG is off the charts... look how many CS Arsenal kept when he was playing.

          1. Mesh
            • 11 Years
            8 years, 14 days ago

            Thanks,
            Would you do Jones to Mustafi for free?
            I got Jones at 5.0

    2. Like an Egyptian Magician
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      I wouldn't get rid of jones just yet especially if I have a good bench player to fill in this gw. Also I would wanna keep a ManU defender throughout the season..

  10. Lukakuna
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Bench two:

    A) Mee
    B) Duffy
    C) Moreno

    Cheers

    1. Gooner Kebab
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      ac

    2. Rik Waller
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Bc

    3. Sam1878
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      B C

  11. L9
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    does mourinho has a press conf tomorrow? i want to know about jones any news ?

    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Usually 2pm UK time

    2. Lord.
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Mourinho already said that Jones won't play at the weekend.

  12. Karan_G14
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Best Newcastle defender?

    Is Lascelles expected back this week?

    Is Yedlin nailed on to start every game?

    1. The White Pele
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      why Newcastle?
      can't see good fixtures.

  13. fplking14
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    surman or RLC to play?

    1. Rik Waller
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      RLC defo

    2. JustPark
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      RLC.

    3. TLF
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      RLC

    4. Mesh
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Close call for me.
      Surman is in good form for a 4.5

    5. JanetYellen
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Surman

  14. Old Wulfrunian
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    I hadn't realize that C.Palace has not scored away this season...

    1. Scout Pics
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      They haven't played Brighton, West Brom, or Swansea yet.

  15. Twisted Saltergater
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    If you were to play the FHC this week. What would your team be?

    1. Judders
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      DDG
      Vertonghen Otamendi Kola
      Sane Richarl Pogba Gray
      Kane (c) Lukaku Wilson

  16. Sam1878
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    A) Vertonghen & Sane
    Or
    B) Alonso/Azpili & Pogba?

    1. JustPark
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      B with Alonso imo.

  17. TLF
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    G2G ? Moving Eriksen to Hazard next week for Swansea and may then finally get a chance to deal with Mbemba the following week who im ditching for Mariappa if he keeps his place.

    Speroni (Elliot)
    Kolasinac, Alonso, Mee (Jones, Mbemba)
    Eriksen, Salah, Sterling, Richarlison, RLC
    Kane (C), Morata (Niasse)

    1.2 itb

    1. Sam1878
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      G2G and good plan in getting hazard in as well

  18. Jon Bones Jones
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    How good is Wilson as player? And is he first choice in Bou when he is fit?

    1. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Very good player has been very unfortunate with injuries throughout his career if he could stay fit he would be most peoples 3rd striker choice

  19. Moses _H
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Help guys, need a one week punt before I wildcard. Which one should i get

    A) Bavies
    B) Trippier
    C) Smalling
    D) Daniels

    Cheers 🙂

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      A or B

    2. JustPark
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      A or B. Would check team news first though for which to go for.

    3. ZeBestee
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      B

    4. how now brown cow
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      B for me.

  20. The Big Fella
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    I am on a WC. How do I get Hazard into this team?

    Speroni / Elliot
    Alonso, Kolasinac, Mee, Lowton, Yedlin
    Salah, Sane, Pogba, Gross, RLC
    Kane, Morata, Wilson
    0.1m ITB

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      I've reached the conclusion that it's Salah or Hazard.

      1. The Big Fella
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        Me too and I am not sure I like it!

      2. Fred54
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        Not on a WC but came to same conclusion.

        1. The Big Fella
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 14 days ago

          What about Sane to Hazard somehow?

      3. The Big Fella
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        I could choose between Sane and Hazard too though. Risky given City's fixtures and form but I really like Hazard's new central position

    2. Like an Egyptian Magician
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Downgrade Alonso Wilson and do gross to hazard

      1. The Big Fella
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        I don't get this comment, sorry. Alonso to a 4.5 would give me 2.5 in the bank. Then Wilson to Niasse, for example, would give me 3.5 ITB. Gross is 5.8 for me so that gives me 9.3 and Hazard is 10.6m

  21. FDMS All Starz
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Would you do sterling-->sane (-4)??? Don't know if sterling will start

    1. Magic Bean
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Only if you captain Sane

    2. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      I wouldn't, but then that's me.

    3. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Not now there's such a big difference in price. Keep Sterling and spend the 1m elsewhere. Yes, he won't start every game, but there'll be lots of players like that in Dec.

    4. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      I am!

    5. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Nope, would keep Sterling and use the £1m across the rest of the team to make sure you have a decent bench in case he doesnt play.

  22. Mind över Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Thinking of brining in Niasse and holding for his ban - surely a better option that Dom CL. Can this team manage this week?

    Fabianski
    Ottamendi, Daniels, Ward
    Silva, Richarlison, Salah, RLC, Sane
    Kane (c), Morata

    Elliott; Duffy, Jones*, Niasse*

    1. Kiwivillan
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 15 days ago

      Bought him last week and was benching anyway

    2. Like an Egyptian Magician
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Better to save transfer and do it next gw. No point in getting and benching him..

  23. Epic Fail
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    I'm guessing you're not allowed to say r*pe on here...

    Robinho sentenced to 9 years for sexual assault?

    Unlucky. Would have been community service if he was still in the UK.

    1. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Pending the appeal process...

    2. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      he'll never serve it tho, not in jurisdiction for starters. scumbag tho

    3. Syd.
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Obviously not friends with Berlusconi

    4. JustPark
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      UK doesn't sound like very fulfilling in the eyes of the victims.

      1. Epic Fail
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        It's not. The only time you'll see a harsh sentence is if it involves taking money from the rich.

  24. ArseneAllTheWay
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    anyone doubling up on Burnley defenders?

    1. Epic Fail
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Someone is, yeah.

    2. Twisted Saltergater
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Typical Arsenal fan 😉

    3. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      May do after this gameweek.

    4. Konig Luther
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      i have 2 burnley defenders, i'm benching both this gw.. Mee likely to come in anyway

    5. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Been on it for weeks now. Worked great other than when I benched them both vs Soton.

  25. Chunnam
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 15 days ago

    Who is a decent Joselu replacement for this week at 5.9 and under?

  26. mir
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 14 days ago

    Otamedi and Niasse

    Or

    4.6 def maybe Kiko and Wilson

    All part of a plan for Hazard and Morata next gw.

    1. the axolotl
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      niasse is banned no?

      1. @fpl_phenom
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        yes but probly can be benched until the ban lifts... hes virtually bench fodder at 5.0M

        1. mir
          • 16 Years
          8 years, 14 days ago

          Will he drop on price before he's back? It's only 7 days till he's available.

      2. mir
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        Yep. He would be benched for 2 gw but have 15 active players to cover.

        1. the axolotl
          • 14 Years
          8 years, 14 days ago

          ok but there's bound to be a fair bit of rotation next 3 GWs anyway. so having a player deffo out is not a good idea for me. but u might get away with it

          1. mir
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 14 days ago

            Yeah good point and Carrol isn't a sure starter anymore.

    2. JustPark
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Ota and Niasse. Even with the ban.

      1. mir
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        Cheers. Im leaning this way.

        Will leave team for gw14 as

        Foster/ Elliott

        Mee / Otamendi / Duffy / Simpson / Daniels

        Hazard / Sane / Salah / Richarlison / Carroll (Will be RLC at some point)

        Kane / Morata / Niasse

  27. McNulty
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 14 days ago

    Speroni (Elliot)
    Alonso, Otamendi, Mee (Ward, Duffy)
    Salah, Richarlison, Choupu-Moting, Loftus-Cheek (Gross)
    Kane, Lukaku, Jesus

    Is this -8 too much next week?

    Richarlison > Hazard
    Choupu-Moting > Sane
    Lukaku > Morata
    Jesus > Quaner

    1. Like an Egyptian Magician
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Yes

  28. Syd.
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 14 days ago

    Ashley Williams is done

    1. Monkey Hanger
      • 12 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Hope so.

  29. Ibracadabra
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 14 days ago

    A) Stones -> Mustafi or Smalling (free) or

    B) Eriksen + Stones -> Otamendi + Sane (-4).

    Any votes?

    1. @fpl_phenom
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Like B a lot and think you will probly recoup the hit straight away... id do it for sure

      1. Ibracadabra
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        Considering it seriously - I have held Eriksen since GW1 and suffered his 4 straight blanks but seems a difficult game to sell before WBA at home - that's the rub..

        1. JustPark
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 14 days ago

          Could you hold the transfer for another gw? It does look tempting for sure nonetheless.

          1. Ibracadabra
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 14 days ago

            Can't hold, Stones going down and I only have two other playing defenders (Kiko Femenia and Ward) since Francis and Jones are also out.

            It's either Stones -> Mustafi for free or Stones/Eriksen -> Sane/Otamendi for -4.

    2. Patio Kev
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      Don't get why anybody would want to get rid of Eriksen before WBA at home.

      1. Ibracadabra
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        Don't want to in all honesty but don't love the defenders in the 5.5m and below bracket, so making the move to Sane enables the upgrade to Otamendi.

      2. Ibracadabra
        • 16 Years
        8 years, 14 days ago

        And to be fair, Spurs haven't been great at home against the minnows and Eriksen isn't exactly on form, though the fixture is (obviously) very tasty.

        1. Patio Kev
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          8 years, 14 days ago

          Honestly - If I had Eriksen this week I would keep and captain.

          1. Ibracadabra
            • 16 Years
            8 years, 14 days ago

            Keep and captain? Winks is taking some corners; Eriksen of course can pop up and score anytime, but surely with Kane/Lukaku as captain options that seems a bit much. What's your logic in it?

            1. Patio Kev
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 11 Years
              8 years, 14 days ago

              Eriksen can score or assist against anybody, he banged in a hatrick vs Northern Ireland only last week, WBA are ideal opposition.

              I don't own him but if I did then would definitely keep and captain, would be a great differential if it comes off. Definitely get rid of Stones though for free.

              1. Ibracadabra
                • 16 Years
                8 years, 14 days ago

                He's the talisman for Denmark - not sure if INTL form translates to the domestic game - he looked average against both Arsenal and Dortmund - two matches that have come after that hat trick... I agree that he is a differential but I am not searching for one this week - I will captain Kane or Lukaku before an out of form Eriksen - so don't agree too much with him as a (c) option at all - the question is does Sane beat Eriksen over the next 5-6 gameweeks by 4 points or not. If yes, it's a great transfer. Man City have almost double the goals as Spurs do this year so logic points to the switch outside of the easy home fixture...

                1. Patio Kev
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 11 Years
                  8 years, 14 days ago

                  I think Eriksen is the better option this weekend and I wouldn't be taking him out for hit. Maybe stick and do it for free next week ?

                  1. Ibracadabra
                    • 16 Years
                    8 years, 14 days ago

                    The only issue with that is I can't move Stones to Otamendi. He becomes Smalling (will lose place sooner rather than later) or Mustafi (underwhelming transfer but decent value).

                    I respect that you are so high on Eriksen, I have had him all season GW1-12 so obviously rate him, but I guess asked differently, do you think this pair will score higher or lower in the next 4-5 weeks:

                    A: Mustafi, Eriksen
                    B: Otamendi, Sane

                    If it is B by more than 4 points than I can make the move and go forward..

    3. Rash
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      B

    4. Like an Egyptian Magician
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 14 days ago

      A

  30. bel24
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 14 days ago

    Fab Elliot
    Gomez Lowton Kiko Jones* Dunk
    Hazard Salah Sterling Richarlison Choupo
    Aguero* Lukaku (Niasse)

    1ft 1.3itb
    Any help or advice would be great. Also waiting for Kiko report tomorrow
    A- Aguero to Kane
    B- Jones to Daniels
    C- Both for -4
    D-Something else