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30 December 2017 5384 comments
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A brace from the seemingly unstoppable Mohamed Salah is then marred by an injury setback, while Chelsea’s two big guns conspire to miss out on the Blues’ predictable five-goal rout of Stoke.

Salah ensured that most Fantasy Premier League (FPL) managers’ Gameweek 21 started strongly as he fired home his 16th and 17th goals of a prodigious season for Liverpool.

But the 59.7%-owned Egyptian then created an early headache for their Gameweek 22 plans by limping off after 82 minutes of his side’s 2-1 win over Leicester City.

Coach Jurgen Klopp’s post-match assessment of the situation was, by its very nature, an early one, but any potential problem will not be helped by the two-day turnaround between fixtures.

“I don’t know in this moment exactly [what it is], but he was limping. That’s never a good sign, to be honest. We have to see what his problem was.”

Salah was the most popular captain of the Gameweek, with 1,137000+ (20.3%) handing him the armband (including 37 of the top 100 managers), and they were rewarded with 14 points from his goals and two bonus.

Any hopes of a maximum award in the Bonus Points System (BPS) were thwarted by the midfielder missing three big chances.

Instead, the other player to find the net on the day, Leicester’s Jamie Vardy, picked up the three points after opening the scoring from a Riyad Mahrez assist.

Salah has now produced returns in 12 of the last 13 Gameweeks and his 14 points today took him to 8.0 points per match – no player with more than one start can better that.

Both Klopp and nearly 60% of FPL managers will hope that he receives a positive assessment ahead of Gameweek 22’s trip to Burnley on New Year’s Day.

Rare blanks in attack and defence

A whopping 402,392 managers made Roberto Firmino the most purchased player of the Gameweek, with team-mate Philippe Coutinho also in the top six for transfers-in with 158,000+ new managers of his own.

The pair responded with less than timely blanks – their first since Gameweek 17 – and the fact that Firmino played the full match and Coutinho 88 minutes suggests both might be in line for a rest at Turf Moor.

That scenario might be compromised by Salah’s knock, however.

Local media have also previously reported that Salah and Sadio Mane, who provided an assist against Leicester, are to be allowed to attend the African Player of the Year awards in Ghana on Thursday.

This would more than likely rule them out of starting Friday’s FA Cup third round tie against Everton. As a result, the pair would probably have played at least some part in Monday’s match at Burnley.

Should Salah be sidelined, at least one of Firmino and Coutinho could now be in action against the Clarets.

Elsewhere for Liverpool, the defence conceded just a fourth goal in 11 matches at Anfield.

Rotation in Klopp’s backline was still in evidence, with Dejan Lovren and Joe Gomez recalled for Ragnar Klavan and Trent Alexander-Arnold.

New signing Virgil Van Dijk will not be available at Burnley, so his expected partnership at centre-back with Joel Matip remains on ice for now.

Instead, Klavan, who had started the previous five matches, could be in line for recall at the expense of Lovren.

Stars don’t shine for Chelsea

More than 178,000 managers reacted to Tottenham’s blank Gameweek 21 by replacing Harry Kane with Chelsea striker Alvaro Morata – the most popular swap going into the weekend.

The Spaniard was also the third most bought player overall, with 303,000+ hoping the forward would make hay against a Stoke City side severely weakened by injuries and rotation.

But Morata fluffed his lines, missing two one-on-ones and bringing in just two points for the 403,000+ (7.2%) who captained him.

To add insult to injury, he was subbed off on 70 minutes, only for Chelsea to win a penalty three minutes later – a spot-kick Morata would most likely have taken.

Willian earned the penalty and converted it. He also provided two assists and gained maximum bonus in a stellar 17-point display.

But the 6.9%-owned Brazilian remains differential material only, albeit one who has started four of the last five matches, unless coach Antonio Conte sticks with the 3-4-3 formation used today instead of his preferred 3-4-1-1 system in which Morata is supported by Eden Hazard.

The Belgian midfielder spent the Stoke match on the bench to cap an underwhelming six-Gameweek stretch from which he’s produced just a single assist.

That drop-off in form has persuaded 200,000+ managers to sell him on over the last three Gameweeks, with 87,000 acting ahead of this morning’s deadline.

But both Hazard and Morata will be expected to start at Arsenal on Wednesday. The former has struggled as a false nine in the absence of the Spaniard, ensuring that Morata remains Chelsea’s primary forward option with Michy Batshuayi clearly not trusted by Conte.

All of that is unlikely to stall sales in both players, however, with Hazard top and Morata third for Gameweek 22 transfers-out.

Predictably, many are swapping the forward back out for Kane.

Happier times at the back

Owning Chelsea defenders proved to be a rather more profitable exercise – with one notable exception.

The 5.2% of managers with Andreas Christensen in their squads would have been delighted to hear their man had recovered from the illness that kept him out of the 2-0 win over Brighton, but less happy when the young Dane was named only on the bench today.

FPL stalwarts Marcos Alonso, who was signed by 178,000 this week, and Cesar Azpilicueta played and recorded their tenth clean sheets of the season, while Antonio Rudiger added a goal and two bonus for a bumper 14-point haul.

Not that it was all wine and roses as the unfortunate 1.3% who own Victor Moses saw the wing-back subbed four minutes before he would have earned clean sheet points, with the fact that his replacement, Davide Zappacosta, then scored Chelsea’s fifth goal putting the tin lid on their luckless day.

  1. Swagat
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Do Lukaku>Kane and Mooy>Alli now or wait for more Kane news?

    1. Swagat
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Will have do before next price rise or I can't afford

    2. Snooze ya lose
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Wait till close of play today

    3. Perthite
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Kane just went down so surely will take a while to rise I would have thought.

  2. makaveli70
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    is GW 22 the right time to use free hit button??

    1. VFORVANDETA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Maybe.

    2. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Depends on your team

    3. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      No, wait for an FA cup weekend when the big clubs blank.

  3. LǝgleSs e|even
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Will we know if Salah is playing this gw before tomorrows deadline?

    1. VFORVANDETA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      No idea.

    2. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Crystal ball is upstairs. Cba getting it

    3. The Hindu Monkey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I would just be shocked if he did

  4. NachoMan
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Chasing in my mini league. Best option for this week?

    1) FREE HIT
    Would give me;
    Adrian*
    Maguire, Ota, Dunk
    Alli*, Son*, Arnie*, Lanzini*, Sterling
    Kane* (c) Kun

    2) Take -8 and TC Kane
    Would give me;
    Adrian*
    Maguire, Ota, Jones, Alonso
    Sterling, Sarah, Gudongan, Alli*
    Kane* (TC) Firmino

    3) Use Wildcard for something similar to 1.

    1. NachoMan
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Haha Sarah!

    2. VFORVANDETA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Cap Sarah

    3. The Overthinker
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I liked a girl named Sarah in school

    4. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      TC Sarah

  5. VFORVANDETA
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Gtg gw22?

    Pope

    Azpi Masuaku Magu

    Salah Sterling Son Coutinho Arnie

    Kane(c) Firmino

    Elliot Mee DCL Long

    1. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Oh yes

    2. minges
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Lovely

  6. L'Aeroplanino
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    seen this before but not sure so i will ask again

    if I confirm a Free transfer first THEN use free hit do i keep the new player using FT next week ? Cheers

    1. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      No

      1. L'Aeroplanino
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Shame...cheers

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      No, you end up with the team that finished the previous gameweek.

    3. VFORVANDETA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      No

    4. GPV
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Oh didn't know!

      What happens with the Free Transfer if you don't use it in the Free Hit week? Does it roll to the following gameweek?

      Cheers

      1. VFORVANDETA
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        No.Just 1 ft.

  7. FPL Mentor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Exact cash for Gomes, Salah, Coutinho, Shaqiri > Adrian, Eriksen, Alli, Arnautovic (-8)

    Leaves me with this

    ADRIAN
    Christensen Jones Lindelof
    ERIKSEN ALLI Sterling Sane ARNAUTOVIC
    Kane Firmino

    (Elliot, Wilson, Mee, Mbemba)

    Shall I do it?

    1. FPL Mentor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      -12 sorry not -8*

    2. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Salah our. You high?

      1. FPL Mentor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 10 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        I can sell him for 9.9m. get him back following gameweek. no not high. Yet.

    3. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I would just do Sane Shaq to Arnie Son/Alli if you can afford

      1. VFORVANDETA
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Thia

        1. VFORVANDETA
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          This*

  8. Phil's Stamps
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Can someone get me the phone number of the Liverpool physio so I can find out what's going on with Salah? You'd think they'd provide updates for all the millions worrying about price falls and double-gameweeks; they're so bloomin' selfish that lot.

    Back in my day, if Dixie Dean came off crocked there'd be a lad at mill gate an hour later, telling us to whether to save a transfer or double-down on Bury assets.

    1. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Bury poor form and fixtures

    2. Carpe Diem
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Keep him. He'll be fit in 2 weeks time, not worth it getting him out for one week losing a mil.

  9. Carpe Diem
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Elliot
    Christensen Jones Duffy
    Son Arnautovic Salah Coutinho de Bruyne
    Kane Depoitre

    Pope Niasse Wimmer Smalling

    Going for Hazard, Morata, Richarlison -> Arnautovic, Son, Kane (-8). G2G?

    1. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Wait on Kane news. If he’s out most will get Morata while you load up on Spurs mids. Could be a big advantage for you this week

      1. Carpe Diem
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Yep, low key hoping he's out..

  10. Swagat
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Who will win in FPL cup u think?

    Me> Sterling,RLC +8 points
    Him> KDB , Bellerin

    1. VFORVANDETA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Me

    2. Gobigorgohome
      • 14 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      I

    3. L'Aeroplanino
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      You

  11. rdamjan
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Fabianski to Adrian -4 this is the question. Adrian nailed after they`ve gor 6 goals in last 2 matches?

    1. IAWC ( It's a Wonderfu…
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Same can anyone answer this

    2. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      If Adrian is nailed then definitely. Swansea’s games are awful while WHam have great fixtures.

      I think he will start both

    3. Carpe Diem
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      If it wasn't for Adrian they'd have conceded 6 against Bournemouth itself. Should be nailed for the short term.

  12. Dream Killers 2.0
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Erikson Vs Ali Vs Son?

    Seems everyone is jumping on at least one of the Spurs midfielders for the double game week.

    Who are you selecting and why?

    1. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Son because he’s cheaper and more explosive.

      Extra cash allows a defensive upgrade

      1. Dream Killers 2.0
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        I thought about Son for this reason.
        It would allow me to upgrade Christensen.

    2. VFORVANDETA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Son cheaper.

    3. Oven Glover
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Eriksen for me. His record vs Swansea, should get plenty of minutes and he isn’t a liability like Angry Alli.

      1. Dream Killers 2.0
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        I like Erikson as well. He is on set pieces as well which has massive appeal in a DGW.

        1. Oven Glover
          • 10 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Too bad he isn’t on all the set pieces anymore, though.

          Vs Swansea: 8 played, 6 goals & 3 assists. These things seem to matter. Like the “Hazard always scores against Bournemouth”.

    4. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Erik and Son.

      Both in form, Son is cheap whereas Alli is a little hit and miss.

      1. Dream Killers 2.0
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Can see that combination getting you a lot of points.
        Are you taking a hit?

    5. umerlfc
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Might just go with Alli
      Shown glimpses of form and can be explosive in the DGW
      Money not an issue for me right now

  13. Francescoli
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    A) Alonso Alli Francis
    B) Otamendi Eriksen Lascelles

    1. VFORVANDETA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      A

  14. Scholsey
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Is Salah the most owned player (in %) ever in the history of FPL?

    1. MikeDuff
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Must be Suarez or Vardy/Mahrez surely

      1. Scholsey
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Yeah, Vardy was phenomenal last to last season!

    2. Carpe Diem
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Mahrez 15/16 had more ownership. Lukaku had ownership around 60% before his form dropped off a cliff too.

    3. IRBOX ⚽
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      NO

    4. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Hardly. Ronaldo was owned by everyone.

  15. Whats the Mata?
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    A. Eriksen + Son
    or
    B. Alli + Son
    or
    C. Alli + Eriksen

    1. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      A

    2. VFORVANDETA
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      B

    1. Carpe Diem
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Nope, Spurs would have to sell their club to afford Bale's wages within their wage structure.

      1. GaGa Over Gazzaniga!!
        • 11 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        ^this...and spurs are not in a position to sell their star player at this crucial juncture..

  16. gedda
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Gents,

    If Kane is cleared:

    A) Firmino -> Kane

    B) Hazard & Firmino -> Arnie/Alli & Kane (-4)

    C) Hazard & DLC -> Arnie & Kane

    Team:

    Adrian Elliot
    Trippier Ogbonna Trent-Arnold
    Salah Sterling Hazard Gross RLC
    Aguero DCL Firmino

    Cheers!

    1. gedda
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Obliviously C) is a -4 as well

  17. doy
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Kane has just scored back to back hatties and has an upcoming DGW....and yet his price goes down. WTF is going on?

    1. Carpe Diem
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Blank. Illness. Uncertainty over whether he'll be able to play one game, let alone 2, over 2 days.

      1. doy
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        It's unbelievable, the price changes this season.

  18. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 15 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Bad case of transfer regret this morning... did Richarlison & Zaha > Son & Arnie... bet those two clam pets get 4 points each in the DGW now!

    1. JustPark
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      But why?

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Had exact funds & thought Son & Arnie were rising in price last night, neither did

    2. doy
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Nah they're gonna rip it up.

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 15 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        If they both score one goal each, and Zaha-Richa both blank... that should leave it 10 points better off value. Not taking hit. But if Zaha and/or Richa decide to do something, it won't be pretty

  19. Caleb's Kitties
    • 10 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Guys which move is better?

    Pickford
    Alonso otamendi ogbonna duffy
    Salah coutinho eriksen sterling
    Kane(C) firmino
    Elliot dcl carroll long
    0FT 0.0ITB

    A. Coutinho —> alli -4
    B. Coutinho —> son -4
    C. Coutinho —> arnautovic -4
    D. Keep coutinho

    1. Dream Killers 2.0
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      B

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Expect rotation @bur so A, but B is a tempter too

  20. JasonG123
    • 12 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    1FT, 3.5m ITB. Which move?
    (A) Richarlison to Alli/Eriksen
    (B) RLC to Arnautovic
    (C) Morata and RLC to Firmino and Alli/Eriksen (-4)

    (B) means I have to play one of DCL, RLC or Kenny every week. (A) and (C) mean these players can be benched every week.

  21. Dream Killers 2.0
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    I’d say B.

  22. KingoftheRunts
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Bench order: depoitre, dunk, Kenny- a b c respectively.

    Thanks 🙂

    1. KingoftheRunts
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Could even bench boost

      1. doy
        • 8 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Save BB for a DGW

        1. doy
          • 8 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          *ard 34-37, after WC'ing the week prior.

  23. klopp4kop
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    anyone triple captaining KANE??

    1. Dream Killers 2.0
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      No. Will probably just captain him given the uncertainty of him starting both games.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      If we know he's fine and raring to go, no sniffles, no puking and no sheets... maybe 😆

  24. JustPark
    • 9 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Really need to sort Christensen and Hazard. What do you guys think?

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Keep - they'll come good

      1. JustPark
        • 9 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Have Kane and Adrian for the dgw. Plan to bring in Arnie for Rich with 2ft. Hazard to one of Spurs mids seems tempting.

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 15 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          Yeah I did rich to Arnie last night & regretting it to be honest... I would say keep Haz though - his next 4 to 5 games should see him pull up his aberages.

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Lose Haz for a spud, you can buy-back if he returns to form

    3. Dream Killers 2.0
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard out for Ali/Erikson or Son...?

    4. doy
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard to a Spur mf.
      Christensen to Alonso if you got the cashies.

    5. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Hazard needs booting for a dgw player.

      Christ needs booting for Alonso because all the Cool Kids have him....with good reason.

    6. JustPark
      • 9 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Cheers all.

  25. Shakshuka
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    On a hit.. Good to go then?

    Fabianski
    Alonso Jones Ogbonna
    Eriksen Son Salah Shaqiri Sane
    Kane Rooney

    Elliot Quaner Ward Naughton

  26. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    is haz to alli/Erik/son worth a hit?

    1. tvz32
      • 8 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Definitely

    2. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Yes

  27. tvz32
    • 8 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    Anybody here still TCing Kane?

    With the doubts surrounding him currently, it could really worked in the favour of those who took the risk

    1. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Nope. May not play one of the games.

  28. *sigh*
    • 14 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    If Salah is ruled out v Burnley he has one game in the next 3 weeks and that is v Man City.
    Thinking Mo to Alli might be baby I'm worth it.

    1. Netley Lucas
      • 10 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Hang on, why can't he play @swa in 24?

      1. *sigh*
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        22nd January though (3 weeks).I was trying to make it sound more dramatic! Think I'm going through with it.Salah v City or Alli v Swansea West Ham Everton? I will only lose 0.1 on Salah.

    2. Jafalad
      • 16 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      That's an interesting thought. How much will it cost you to buy him back though?

      1. *sigh*
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Got him only last week

    3. shotgunnufc - MANIAC
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      If I did that i’d lose half a mil in SV buying him back. plus why would he not score against anyone in this form. it’s overthinking it in my eyes to see the top scorer when we don’t even know the extent of his injury

      1. *sigh*
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        That's advantage to me though because selling value is the reason most won't contemplate it.

    4. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 15 Years
      8 years, 1 month ago

      Pretty much every player has only one game in next 3 weeks by that logic, as Salah plays v Swansea in 22 days?

      It could be a very good move to sell him now if he is injured though, as long as you'd be willing to sacrifice 0.2-0.4 of TV, and risk it blowing up in your face if he returns

      1. *sigh*
        • 14 Years
        8 years, 1 month ago

        Spurs have 3 easy fixtures in that time though.Of course I'd swap back after Salah has played City.

        1. The Overthinker
          • 9 Years
          8 years, 1 month ago

          What makes you think Salah at home Vs city won't do anything!?

          1. *sigh*
            • 14 Years
            8 years, 1 month ago

            Nothing at all however City are no mugs defensively

  29. drughi
    • 16 Years
    8 years, 1 month ago

    DDG (eve)
    Jones(eve) Gomez(bur) Klavan(bur)
    Sterling(WAT) Salah(bur) Gross(BOU) Arnautovic(WBA, spurs) Son (swa,WHM)
    Kane(swa,WHM) Aguero(WAT)

    elliott, depoitre, naughton, mariappa

    0 ft, 0.2 itb

    Any suggestions ?