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Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Rogers	AVL	7.4m	129.3%	Very Likely
Cherki	MCI	6.7m	106.2%	Very Likely
Watkins	AVL	8.5m	101.3%	Very Likely
Alderete	SUN	4.0m	99.5%	Likely
Mukiele	SUN	4.2m	98.0%	Likely
Guéhi	CRY	5.3m	93.7%	Unlikely
Pickford	EVE	5.5m	89.0%	Unlikely
Schade	BRE	7.0m	89.5%	Unlikely
Saliba	ARS	5.9m	85.0%	Unlikely
Trossard	ARS	6.9m	80.0%	Unlikely
Roefs	SUN	4.8m	69.2%	Unlikely
Truffert	BOU	4.5m	69.5%	Unlikely
Dalot	MUN	4.5m	68.4%	Unlikely
Thiaw	NEW	5.0m	67.2%	Unlikely
Tete	FUL	4.5m	66.8%	Unlikely
Palmer	CHE	10.4m	62.4%	Unlikely
Virgil	LIV	5.9m	64.8%	Unlikely
Dorgu	MUN	4.2m	62.6%	Unlikely
Gabriel	ARS	6.4m	56.7%	Unlikely
Dúbravka	BUR	4.0m	60.4%	Unlikely
Mitchell	CRY	5.0m	60.3%	Unlikely
Ekitiké	LIV	9.1m	60.3%	Unlikely
Garner	EVE	5.0m	52.6%	Unlikely
O'Reilly	MCI	5.3m	61.1%	Unlikely
Rúben	MCI	5.7m	52.8%	Unlikely
Konaté	LIV	5.4m	53.3%	Unlikely
Ødegaard	ARS	7.8m	51.3%	Unlikely
Matheus N.	MCI	5.4m	50.8%	Unlikely
Igor Jesus	NFO	5.8m	53.0%	Unlikely
E.Le Fée	SUN	4.9m	49.6%	Unlikely
De Cuyper	BHA	4.3m	47.7%	Unlikely
Gordon	NEW	7.4m	44.3%	Unlikely
A.Becker	LIV	5.4m	45.8%	Unlikely
Andersen	FUL	4.6m	46.6%	Unlikely
Bowen	WHU	7.6m	36.5%	Unlikely
Smith Rowe	FUL	5.6m	42.8%	Unlikely
Frimpong	LIV	5.7m	41.4%	Unlikely
Mount	MUN	5.9m	42.8%	Unlikely
Sánchez	CHE	4.9m	42.9%	Unlikely
Van den Berg	BRE	4.5m	38.2%	Unlikely

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Player	Team	Price	Progress	Tonight
Ballard	SUN	4.7m	105.8%	Very Likely
Burn	NEW	5.1m	103.0%	Very Likely
Isidor	SUN	5.4m	102.1%	Very Likely
Estève	BUR	3.9m	101.8%	Very Likely
Adams	BOU	5.0m	101.4%	Very Likely
Rice	ARS	7.2m	94.1%	Likely
Grealish	EVE	6.5m	101.6%	Very Likely
Rodon	LEE	4.0m	98.1%	Maybe
Fer López	WOL	5.2m	98.4%	Maybe
Colwill	CHE	4.8m	98.5%	Maybe
Hermansen	WHU	4.3m	97.8%	Maybe
Morgan	BRE	4.4m	96.9%	Maybe
L.Guilherme	WHU	4.9m	96.0%	Maybe
Broggio	AVL	4.5m	94.2%	Unlikely
Jair Cunha	NFO	4.3m	94.0%	Unlikely
Diakité	BOU	4.4m	92.7%	Unlikely
Bellegarde	WOL	5.2m	93.5%	Unlikely
Seung soo	NEW	4.4m	92.6%	Unlikely
Foden	MCI	9.0m	86.0%	Unlikely
Anderson	SUN	3.9m	92.1%	Unlikely
Fitzgerald	MUN	4.4m	93.9%	Unlikely
Saka	ARS	10.3m	93.5%	Unlikely
Robertson	LIV	5.8m	90.8%	Unlikely
Aké	MCI	5.3m	90.7%	Unlikely
Neto	CHE	7.3m	85.0%	Unlikely
Benitez	CRY	4.0m	89.9%	Unlikely
Senesi	BOU	4.9m	87.7%	Unlikely
Agbadou	WOL	4.3m	88.3%	Unlikely
Wan-Bissaka	WHU	4.2m	88.2%	Unlikely
Bayindir	MUN	4.8m	87.2%	Unlikely
Sadiki	SUN	5.0m	86.4%	Unlikely
R.Gomes	WOL	4.4m	86.1%	Unlikely
Gibbs-White	NFO	7.3m	84.9%	Unlikely
Sousa	AVL	3.9m	84.2%	Unlikely
Dennis	BOU	4.0m	83.9%	Unlikely
Thiago	BRE	7.0m	75.3%	Unlikely
March	BHA	5.8m	83.9%	Unlikely
Bettinelli	MCI	3.9m	81.8%	Unlikely
Baleba	BHA	4.6m	81.3%	Unlikely
Ward-Prowse	WHU	5.6m	79.7%	Unlikely

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	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Raya Martin	ARS	B
Up	Pickford	EVE	B, Vs
Down	Alisson	LIV	C, Vs
Down	Donnarumma	MCI	B, Vs, Sus
No Change	Kelleher	BRE	B, Vs
No Change	Dubravka	BUR	C, £

Last updated: 26 Dec, 2025 1:46pm

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	van Dijk	LIV	C, Vs
No Change	Jurriën Timber	ARS	C
Up	Keane	EVE	Vs
No Change	O’Reilly	MCI	B, Vs
No Change	Marc Guehi	CRY	A
No Change	van den Berg	BRE	C, Vs
No Change	Thiaw	NEW	C
Down	Andersen	FUL	C
No Change	Milenkovic	NFO	C, Sus
No Change	van Hecke	BHA	A
No Change	Mukiele	SUN	C, £

Last updated: 26 Dec, 2025 1:50pm

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Saka	ARS	A
No Change	Foden	MCI	A, Vs
Up	Matheus Cunha	MUN	A
No Change	Semenyo	BOU	A
Up	Wirtz	LIV	B, Vs
Up	Grealish	EVE	B, Vs
No Change	Bruno Guimarães	NEW	B, Sus
No Change	Schade	BRE	C, Vs
Down	Minteh	BHA	C
No Change	Anderson	NFO	C, £

Last updated: 26 Dec, 2025 1:54pm

	Player	Club	Factors
No Change	Haaland	MCI	A, Vs
Up	Ekitiké	LIV	A, Vs
Up	Bowen	WHU	B, Vs
Down	Thiago	BRE	C, Vs, Inj
No Change	Mateta	CRY	C
No Change	Woltemade	NEW	B, Rest

Last updated: 26 Dec, 2025 1:56pm

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The FFS Cup III – Quarter-Final Results

23 November 2010 430 comments

Akers

Gameweek 14 of the Fantasy Premier League season saw the quarter-finalists in the Fantasy Football Scout Cup III, sponsored by Paddy Power, battle it out for a place in the cash-rich semi-finals. Also at stake this week was of course another free £25 bet courtesy of our sponsors. Here is how it played out…

1 – tippman 65 – 62 User

2 – DRP 70 – 61 DollyDaisy

3 – The Von 71 – 59 DaFoe22

4 – gooner dave 75 – 56 sandgrounder

The first, and closest, tie of the round was the lowest-scoring, as tippman edged out User with the only winning score below 70. Despite reaching the semi-finals, tippman is in somewhat of a bad run, having got his fifth consecutive red arrow. He now finds himself as the lowest-ranked manager left in the competition.

Then we had last week’s top-scorer, DollyDaisy, go the same way as all previous top-scorers, out of the competition. A late Tim Cahill revival wasn’t anywhere near enough to recover the damage done the day before by Carlos Tevez. His exit paves the way for 2,682nd in the world (and highest-ranked manager remaining) DRP to reach the final four.

Next up was The Von‘s comfortable 71 – 59 victory over DaFoe22. After his first two drops in the rankings in the last two weeks, The Von pulled out a green arrow, largely thanks to Rafael Van der Vaart and Kevin Davies.

Bringing up the rear was gooner dave‘s trashing of sandgrounder 75 – 56, which was the widest margin of victory and the highest aggregate scoring tie of the round. With an impressive score of 75, gooner dave picks up a free £25 bet courtesy of Paddy Power. Sandgrounder also picks up the unfortunate award of the lowest-score of the round.

So that’s our final four, and four nationalities are represented. Flying the flag for England is The Von, tippman is the last remaining Irishman, DRP hails from India and gooner dave is out in Germany.

I’m sure you’ll join me in congratulating the big four on their achievement, and commiserating the four leaving the competition at this stage. I’ll bring you news of the draw for the semi-finals on Thursday, which will take place in gameweek 15. And remember, a win next week guarantees you a free £100 Paddy Power bet.

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jamsiep
15 years, 1 month ago
A night of hiding behind the couch for me then! Stupid managers, do they not realise people have fantasy teams!
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1. AP
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Watch the Utd reserves match instead, some serious quality yoof on display in Pogba, Vermijl, Eikrem and Cofie. Mancini's son is playing for city unall - bleeergh.
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  1. jamsiep
    15 years, 1 month ago
    Is he a defensive midfielder?
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    1. SuperDorrans
      15 years, 1 month ago
      Ayyyy up, already a transfer made?!
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      1. jamsiep
        15 years, 1 month ago
        Elmo to Konchesky!!
        
        Not even going to play Konchesky this week, but the original plan was to save two transfers for next week, one of which would have been Elmo > Konchesky, but I did it early before Elmo's price went down, to save 0.1.
        
        Barring any injuries, that will be my only change this week. Probably Foster > Gordon next week.
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    2. AP
      15 years, 1 month ago
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filippo_Mancini
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TorresMagic™
15 years, 1 month ago
For those interested in playing Fantasy Ashes

http://ashesfantasy.foxsports.com.au

Code : 16356-2419

So far only 6 in & Granville is the favourite.
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1. 1966 was a great year for E…
  15 years, 1 month ago
  I'm already in jamsiep's one (cheers for the invite, btw, jp), can't really be arsed to do 2, otherwise I'd be in. Actually, Granville narrowly beat me in the Ryder Cup one, so maybe I'll try to get some revenge!
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  1. TorresMagic™
    15 years, 1 month ago
    Fair enough, I am abit the same.
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teddypicker
15 years, 1 month ago
Anyone else's FPL messed up or is it just me?
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jamsiep
15 years, 1 month ago
Folks,

If anyone is interested in playing a fantasy game for the Ashes, I've set up a league on the Cricinfo website. The game itself is pretty good, and basic, the only drawback is the invitation system. Rather than having a league code for people to enter, the invitations are all done by email, so if you want to take part you'll need to receive an email from the admin - me! Instead of posting your email on here for preying eyes to see - you can if you want - drop me an email at beastlypriestly@hotmail.com (I set up the account when I was 12, hence the ridiculous name) and I'll get back to you ASAP with an invite.

Should be good fun, and I doubt people are going to take it too seriously... Especially greghammer who's gone for the bold move of having Panesar in his team! Noob.
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1. Cheggers
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Wagner now 11/1, bet laid.
  
  All is good in the world
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  1. 1966 was a great year for E…
    15 years, 1 month ago
    Betting on X Factor?
    
    http://www.appraisersofarizona.com/
    
    🙂
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    1. Cheggers
      15 years, 1 month ago
      lolz
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2. andy85wsm
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Monty Monty Monty!
  
  Going to tear sh1t up!
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3. Locarno
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Panesar???
  
  Can see the Aussies trembling at that development.
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4. greghammer95
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Is that not Monty Panesar ? That good spin bowler? I know absolutely dog all about Cricket to be honest. I might just copy yours or Andy's team some time tomorrow.
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  1. Locarno
    15 years, 1 month ago
    Monty may as well be throwing down laundry baskets, the amount of spin he gets...
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    1. greghammer95
      15 years, 1 month ago
      Swooooosh Over my head.
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      1. Locarno
        15 years, 1 month ago
        That's where most of Monty's deliveries will end up - back over his head.
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        jamsiep
        15 years, 1 month ago
        😀 Nice.
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  2. jamsiep
    15 years, 1 month ago
    Yeah, it is Monty Panesar. That shit and one dimensional spin bowler... You're stuck in about 2006 Gregory, back when Monty was tearing it up against Pakistan etc... Times have changed.
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    1. greghammer95
      15 years, 1 month ago
      Okey dokey. Time to change him then. Hmmmm who fits in that price bracket?
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5. Gargamel
  15 years, 1 month ago
  So which game is the one to watch tonight? Plenty of good teams in action but most of them play a weaker side.
  
  Thinking of having a look at captain CR7 in Ajax - Real Madrid.
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  1. Gargamel
    15 years, 1 month ago
    Why on earth did this comment end up up here? Oh well.
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Sarri-ball
15 years, 1 month ago
What the bestsite 2 get lineups planning a lucky15 for 2nites games
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1. Anorak
  15 years, 1 month ago
  this one
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Horlicks esq.
15 years, 1 month ago
Jeffrey Bruma, Patrick van Aanholt, Josh McEachran, Daniel Sturride and Gael Kakuta all start for Chelsea against MSK Zilina.

Surely no drogba.
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1. teddypicker
  15 years, 1 month ago
  drogba starts
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2. Locarno
  15 years, 1 month ago
  You were saying?
  
  Chelsea: Turnbull, Ferreira, Ivanovic, Bruma, Van Aanholt,
  Ramires, McEachran, Malouda, Sturridge, Drogba, Kakuta. Subs:
  Hilario, Mikel, Kalou, Anelka, Clifford, Mellis, Sala.
  
  MSK Zilina: Dubravka, Angelovic, Pecalka, Piacek, Gergel, Jez,
  Guldan, Babatounde, Vladavic, Majtan, Oravec. Subs: Krnac,
  Leitner, Rilke, Ceesay, Poliacek, Sourek, Zosak.
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3. AP
  15 years, 1 month ago
  More sturridge related lols, excellent!
  
  Interested to see if this McEachran is any good too.
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Locarno
15 years, 1 month ago
Anyone got Moscow's Welliton? He's got an early shower and his team are losing 3-0.
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1. Anorak
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Just a Russian defender for me. Thank god for manager subs.
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Craig
15 years, 1 month ago
Nolan, Cole OUT
VDV, Hangeland IN

How do these moves look?
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1. andy85wsm
  15 years, 1 month ago
  I'd wait and see if VDV is injured for the weekend first.
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Locarno
15 years, 1 month ago
Auxerre: Sorin, Hengbart, Coulibaly, Grichting, Dudka, Oliech,
Pedretti, Ndinga, Birsa, Sammaritano, Contout. Subs: Riou,
Chafni, Quercia, Sidibe, Langil, Bourgeois, Traore.

AC Milan: Abbiati, Abate, Nesta, Thiago Silva, Zambrotta,
Gattuso, Ambrosini, Flamini, Robinho, Seedorf, Ibrahimovic.
Subs: Amelia, Strasser, Jankulovski, Bonera, Boateng, Yepes,
Ronaldinho.
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andy85wsm
15 years, 1 month ago
I hope Drogba get's a long term injury tonight. To force me to have to change him.
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1. greghammer95
  15 years, 1 month ago
  +1 I don't like the man either.
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Horlicks esq.
15 years, 1 month ago
FFS(for ufcks sake - not fantasy football scout)

- I have NO players playing tonight. All are on for tomorrow.

I am curious to see who plays from tomorrows line ups...does it auto sub like FPL format?

I have Drogba last substitute. 🙁
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Locarno
15 years, 1 month ago
Braga: Felipe, Miguel Garcia, Moises, Rodriguez, Echiejile,
Vandinho, Leandro Salino, Alan, Aguiar, Matheus, Lima. Subs:
Artur Moraes, Mossoro, Madrid, Silvio, Hugo Viana, Anibal,
Elton.

Arsenal: Fabianski, Eboue, Squillaci, Djourou, Gibbs, Walcott,
Denilson, Wilshere, Rosicky, Fabregas, Bendtner. Subs: Szczesny,
Sagna, Koscielny, Nasri, Vela, Song, Chamakh.
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CobraKai
15 years, 1 month ago
Kolarov, Carr, Crainey, Faye, Foley

Faye out. Best defender for 4.9 ??
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Locarno
15 years, 1 month ago
Partizan Belgrade: Stojkovic, Stevanovic, Marko Jovanovic,
Krstajic, Lazevski, Petrovic, Smiljanic, Babovic, Moreira,
Sasa Ilic, Cleo. Subs: Zivkovic, Miljkovic, Medo, Boya, Savic,
Davidov, Iliev.

Shakhtar Donetsk: Pyatov, Srna, Chygrynskiy, Rakitskiy, Rat,
Gai, Stepanenko, Douglas Costa, Jadson, Willian, Luiz Adriano.
Subs: Khudzamov, Kucher, Eduardo, Alex Teixeira, Ischenko,
Vitsenets, Moreno.
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1. Johnny Unitas
  15 years, 1 month ago
  or just:
  
  http://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/matches/index.html
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SuperDorrans
15 years, 1 month ago
Only a small bet tonight..

Chelsea -1
Braga/Arsenal over 2.5 goals
Madrid

£3 on, £15 back.
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1. 1966 was a great year for E…
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Sounds good, what site?
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  1. SuperDorrans
    15 years, 1 month ago
    SkyBet.
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    1. 1966 was a great year for E…
      15 years, 1 month ago
      Cheers, better odds there than on bet365.
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Jordan.
15 years, 1 month ago
no bosingwa anybody reckon thats gd news for bosingwa owners for newcastle? i reckon thats bos nailed on for sunday
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FPL Daniel
15 years, 1 month ago
We are desperate. Drogba and Malouda starts.
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Locarno
15 years, 1 month ago
Ajax: Stekelenburg, Van Der Wiel, Alderweireld, Vertonghen,
Anita, Enoh, De Jong, Sulejmani, Suarez, El Hamdaoui,
Emanuelson. Subs: Verhoeven, Eriksen, Ooijer, Lindgren, Tainio,
De Zeeuw, Ozbiliz.

Real Madrid: Casillas, Sergio Ramos, Albiol, Arbeloa, Marcelo,
Lassana Diarra, Alonso, Ozil, Ronaldo, Pedro Leon, Benzema.
Subs: Dudek, Pepe, Mahamadou Diarra, Granero, Mateos, Canales,
Di Maria.
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Locarno
15 years, 1 month ago
Roma: Bertagnoli, Cassetti, Mexes, Nicolas Burdisso, Riise,
Greco, De Rossi, Brighi, Menez, Borriello, Vucinic. Subs:
Lobont, Cicinho, Juan, Pizarro, Adriano, Totti, Simplicio.

Bayern Munich: Kraft, Lahm, Van Buyten, Demichelis, Pranjic,
Tymoschuk, Ottl, Muller, Kroos, Ribery, Gomez. Subs: Butt,
Breno, Braafheid, Altintop, Contento, Alaba.
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SuperDorrans
15 years, 1 month ago
Just seen the funniest rumour ever, on out 606 site someone has posted that Dorrans has hit the bottle, and he's being deadly serious. To be fair, our local reporter has said that his 'off the field' problems are life changing but seriously?!
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1. jamsiep
  15 years, 1 month ago
  *waits for inevitable anti-606 comment*
  
  I dunno what all the fuss is about. I like 606.
  
  Worrying if that is true... Big if though.
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2. AP
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Well he is scottish...
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  1. Cheggers
    15 years, 1 month ago
    I hit the bottle after the naked jungle finished but you dont see me moaning
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    1. TorresMagic™
      15 years, 1 month ago
      Any bets Cheggars?
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      1. Cheggers
        15 years, 1 month ago
        yeah Wagner to win the x factor
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Boom!!!
15 years, 1 month ago
i 'm going to get 0 or 2points from sh*t captain kalou in ucl fantasy...i hope ucl fantasy was like fpl where there was emergency captain....should go down from 1,356 to around 13,000 for sure....oh god why did i took the gamble?
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1. gooner dave
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Why not captain someone who's playing tomorrow?, when you make your subs.
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2. HowManyGoals
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Oh the woes, brought in VDV & Vidic at 1 am last night, and now badstuber unlikely to play too
  
  Remember you can swap captains tomorrow.
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Andy1
15 years, 1 month ago
A) Drogba –> Tevez
B) Drogba –> Tevez, Dembele –> Elmander
C) Malouda –> Cleverley, Dembele –> Tevez
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1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
  15 years, 1 month ago
  b if no hit
  
  a otherwise
  
  still think it's risky dropping drog
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TorresMagic™
15 years, 1 month ago
Any predictions on 1st goalscorers in todays matches?
Might have a bet.
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1. greghammer95
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Drogba, in the Chelsea game but I suppose the odds are pretty crap on that.
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2. Gargamel
  15 years, 1 month ago
  I don't really do first goal scorer bets, but Ibrahimovic should be a good bet to score today against Auxerre imo. Milan need points and he's basically the only player that scores goals for them.
  
  I'll have a punt on Ibra to score anytime today, so at least if anyone follows me I will have lost as well.
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greghammer95
15 years, 1 month ago
Walcott at 8/1, Might go ask my Dad for an advance.
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1. Gargamel
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Don't blow your money on a first goal scorer bet greg, might as well buy a lottery ticket then.
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  1. greghammer95
    15 years, 1 month ago
    I'm not old enough to buy a lottery ticket.
    
    Actually, can you buy lottery tickets online? 😉
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    1. Gargamel
      15 years, 1 month ago
      Blah! 🙂
      
      I just think you should make a more sensible bet - because even if the odds are obviously greater there is no real way you can tell in which order players will score. Take the anytime goal scorer bet if you want to play goal scorers. I'm backing Ibra myself, he'll get one.
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      1. greghammer95
        15 years, 1 month ago
        I'm actually going to do that now. And then have a couple of bets on the weekend if it pays off and hopefully cash in after.
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    2. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
      15 years, 1 month ago
      please don't tell me your username contains your year of birth?!!
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disparate dan - a reasonabl…
15 years, 1 month ago
i have just discovered an interesting 'fact' on wikipedia (risky using that word in relation to wiki) about roberto mancini

without googling it (you're only cheating yourself!) which english club did he make 4 league appearances for at the end of his playing career?
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1. Cheggers
  15 years, 1 month ago
  leicester
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  1. disparate dan - a reasonabl…
    15 years, 1 month ago
    did you actually know that?
    
    kudos if so
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    1. jamsiep
      15 years, 1 month ago
      Everyone knows that.
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      1. Gargamel
        15 years, 1 month ago
        Not me. Should have stayed away from posting, but wanted to answer quick so it was clear I had not googled it
        
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        disparate dan - a reasonabl…
        15 years, 1 month ago
        amazing what you find out on wiki
        
        apparently roy hodgson is credited with introducing zonal marking into swedish football
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        Gargamel
        15 years, 1 month ago
        Roy Hodgson has had a great deal of influence on Swedish football. He and Bob Houghton went to coach over here in the 70's and are basically the ones credited with why Sweden have played much like England between 75-2007 or so, where we have taken a more continental route and trying to work more with youngsters and play a more passing game.
        
        The influence those two have had on Swedish football can not be overestimated. Houghton won an award just a couple of weeks ago on or annual football 'gala', for the good things he's done for us.
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        disparate dan - a reasonabl…
        15 years, 1 month ago
        didn't realise you were swedish!
        
        i didn't realise the impact hodgson had there
        
        i knew he'd had a good spell at malmo
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2. Gargamel
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Arsenal, I think?
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  1. Gargamel
    15 years, 1 month ago
    Shit, I mixed him up with someone 😀
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TorresMagic™
15 years, 1 month ago
Had a few small bets on 1st goalscorer in the Chelsea game

Backed Drogba & laid Anelka & Kalou who are on the bench.
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1. Cheggers
  15 years, 1 month ago
  Noted
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Boom!!!
15 years, 1 month ago
done n dusted :shane watson my captain...
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