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With a goalscoring record that boasted 37 goals in 65 games in the Bundesliga, Papiss Cisse’s arrival in Tyneside prompted mixed emotion from Fantasy managers. Demba Ba’s outstanding form this season had seen him established as the spearhead in Alan Pardew’s attack, with the former West Ham man emerging as a superb Fantasy prospect in the mid-price bracket.

There was understandable concern that, despite their relationship up front for Senegal, Cisse’s arrival would change the climate and possibly lead to a decline in Ba’s fortunes, dividing Fantasy managers between the established Premier League striker and the potentially explosive newcomer.

Using the Opta data available to members and our own ICT index, we take a step back and examine the stats and performances of the two Newcastle strikers so far – assessing the potential of the pairing, the impact on Ba and the merits of the possible switch to his cheaper strike partner.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

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  1. Spike ⚽️
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Just said on Talk Sport News that Sess still hasn't returned to Sunderland from international duty !!

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    1. Clintymints
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      lolol ffs the plot thickens

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    2. Puzzle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Is it crazy going with Moses ahead of him? Will be fielding two newcastle defenders.

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      1. Spike ⚽️
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        I assume you have Sess already. I would just wait until tomorrow. Cant see MON leaving him out. Sess missed his flight apparantly

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        1. Sess!
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Yeah just heard this too. Well annoying. Fancy sess to do something this wkend but if he's fatigued and gets back really late, then outside chance MON could start Campbell and Bendtner up front. I don't see it personnaly but a bit worried that it might effect sess' output either way.

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  2. Arselona
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    1. Should I be benching Evans or Caulker?
    2. Bogdan or Al-Habsi to keep till end of season?

    Appreciate your help lads..

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    1. Clintymints
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Habsi. Bogdan is a bit pants, neither if I had a choice though :S

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      1. Arselona
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Yeh, there's far better options but trying to compare the two atm..

        Bogdan has good fixtures and just that I saw he racked up 10 saves last gw.. Price is obviously a plus too...

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    2. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Bench evans, caulker looking like he has a goal in him and can see wigan / swansea being a low scoring game.

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  3. HST
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    FFS! (and I don't mean fantasy football scout)

    Can anyone beat this list of crocks and ne're do wells.

    Richards
    Senderos
    Gabbidon
    Sess
    Bale
    RVP

    Points will have to be spent!

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    1. Arselona
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      You can probably tick Bale and RvP off the list..

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  4. GOONER
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Who to play this week:

    McClean or Moses?

    Caulker or Simpson?

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    1. HappyAnkit
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Moses
      Simpson

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      1. Sess!
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Have to disagree, McClean Caulker I'd say. I have santon and am playing caulker ahead of him if it helps.

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        1. HappyAnkit
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          I fancy NewCastle to get a CS.

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          1. Sess!
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            There' usually always goals in the derbies. I know we haven't got a good record but we've got a point to prove and there's no way we can play as bad as the west brom game. Remember we'd be on fire up until that point so no reason we can't pick up where we left off again. Wolves score 2 last week and they're pants!

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  5. BBC_TF
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    I need to sell Sorensen.

    I have Vorm - Kompany - Evans - Taiwo - Simpson - Kelly

    Who should I get?

    1/ Al Habsi
    2/ Bogdan
    3/ Ruddy
    4/ Given
    5/ Mignolet

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    1. Nibbsy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Al Habsi looks like he rotates the best out of those.

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      1. Sess!
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Schwazer??

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        1. BBC_TF
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          already have kelly though. I am a big believer of portfolio diversification!

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          1. Sess!
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Fair do's

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  6. HappyAnkit
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    My Team-
    Krul, Lindy
    R Taylor, Richards, Shotton, Kelly, Caulker
    Silva, Bale, Dempsey, McClean, Sess
    RVP, Ba, Aguero

    Have 2FT & 1.3 m in bank
    Sess> ?
    Suggest the Starting XI, Bench Order, (C) & (VC).

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    1. Jinswick
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Richards -> Kompany and save the 2nd transfer

      Aguero(c), Dempsey(vc) and Lindy, Mclean, Kelly, Caulker on the bench in that order.

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      1. HappyAnkit
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Sess has to go.
        Richards will out for a Liverpool defender next GW.

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  7. Jinswick
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    It's all too obvious really isn't it. 'Arry sold Bale this week in his FF team....

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    1. Arselona
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Sneaky bugga

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    2. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Is that genuine !!

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    3. MJ6987
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Nah, he just like to keep the opposition guessing. United's game plan (if Bale plays) is to keep Bale quiet - this uncertainty means they have to work on an alternative game plan as well, confusing things. 'Arry can't do this every game so he saves it for the big games.

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    4. Loooser
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      you know what... this makes sense...... You know what I heard? That Rooney plans to buy himself after this GW...... you know what that means...... Do you know whom does Drenthe captains every week in his FPL team?

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  8. HST
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    Does anyoen have a clue whats going on with Senderos?

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    1. Goose
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Was back from injury and on the bench last week, could be back in the 11 this week i suppose but Fulham actually kept a clean sheet last week so who knows.

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    2. Spike ⚽️
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Hangeland is also supposed to be injured but said on Sky Sports script that he is expected to recover in time for game agst Wolves

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    3. Loooser
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      he could actually play and have a nice game.

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  9. Anti Top Four
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 11 months ago

    What do you reckona better combination:

    a. Hart - Silva - Kun

    or

    b. Silva - Toure - Kun

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    1. HappyAnkit
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      A

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      1. Loooser
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        A, only because it is stupid to double mids.

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        1. Loooser
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          sorry for the word stupid, simply I would not double.

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          1. Anti Top Four
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Np, but i beg to differ. there are quite a few pairs that have done very well to date (regardless of the price, which may not make it feasible):

            bale (154) - vdv (108) - modric (100) = 362
            lamps (116) - mata (114) = 230
            silva (146) - toure (91) = 247
            sess (128) - larsson (94) = 222
            nani (126) - valencia (86) = 212

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            1. Loooser
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              sure, but not in the same games. rarely both scored well at the same time.

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              1. JT's Dog
                  13 years, 11 months ago

                  the arguement there would be, covering all bases. once in blue moon you get good points from all mid players, so could make sense to cover city mid points against bolton

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    2. Arselona
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Any news on Kelly?

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    3. The Finnisher
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Will I get 11 starters this week?
      Krul
      Enrique Evans Kelly Richards Vermaelen
      Silva Dempsey Bale Sigurdsson Sessegnon
      RVP Aguero Ba

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      1. HappyAnkit
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Yep

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      2. bobbydinho - Portland Irons
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        i say yes.

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      3. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Yay

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      4. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Easily. No Kelly or Bale though imo

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        1. Sess!
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Bale will be fine

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    4. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      REPOST (thanks Josh and Riquelme for the replies.

      Straw poll for GW28 (and beyond):
      a) Skrtel Pilkington Rooney Ba (no hits)

      b) Skrtel Surman Rooney Suarez (4pt hit)

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      1. Loooser
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        A. I like no suarez and I like no hits.

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        1. @ImpressiveTackl
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Not tempted by the DGW and the straight swap of Suarez > (die) Adebayor (die) in GW31?

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          1. Loooser
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            I like also Pilkington over Suman, but they will be benched anyway. Worse thing that can happen is that you lose 4 pts and get twice 2 pt from suarez. Do it. it is worth a try. After all, I swapped Bale with adam (even before the injury). I did not resist the temptation. And you? I say A, but if you have courage and have nothing to lose, go also for B.

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            1. DarPaC
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              Unless Suarez lets the derby atmosphere get to him and gets booked?

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      2. hvsauce
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        a)

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      3. The Finnisher
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        A.

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      4. McDog
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Definitely A imo.

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      5. udit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        A for me

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      6. @ImpressiveTackl
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        I would do A mate...

        (sorry just wanted to be part of the crew).

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      7. HappyAnkit
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        B.

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        1. McDog
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          😆

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          1. HappyAnkit
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            It's my personal opinion.

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      8. Djerbil
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Hello MR.Larnaca..

        Are u ready for My team's arrival..Do send a car to the Railway station, don't need a bus..Only few players are coming and they will fit in it..

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        1. @ImpressiveTackl
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          I will end you. 😈

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          1. @ImpressiveTackl
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            ^only kidding btw.

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          2. Djerbil
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            I will end u too..
            😎

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      9. MJ6987
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        B. You can always switch Suarez back to Ba later on.

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    5. div
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Vorm
      Kompany, Senderos, Raylor
      Silva, Sess, Dempsey(vc), Bale
      RVP, Aguero(c), Ba

      Mignolet, McClean, Rangel, Evans

      Thinking Sess & Aguero > Pilk & Rooney next GW, any thoughts?

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    6. Mr Sarcastic
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Hmmmm, my doubtfuls are
      Kelly
      Bale
      Sessegnon
      Rvp

      Happy to bench 1-2 of them, but not all!

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      1. Loooser
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        well, three are maximum, you cant bench them all. 😉

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        1. Mr Sarcastic
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          damn, you are correct sir!

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        I'd bench Sess for sure and maybe Kelly, depends on the rest of your defence, I'd play Bale and RvP, if they start you'll kick yourself. With guys like them it's better to play them and have someone sub in if they don't play then leave them out and then fume when the start.

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    7. chosta
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      any news on bosingwa?

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      1. Mark
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 19 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        All in here...

        http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/team-news/

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        1. chosta
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          yep, I follow the tweets, just didn't see any confirmation of Bosingwa's injury there. thanks.

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    8. Drip Doctor
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Silva & Holt or Yaya & Ba?

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      1. udit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Silva & holt easily.

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      2. @ImpressiveTackl
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Real tough one. I would favour Silva & Holt, only just though.

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      3. PL Ball
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        First one

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      4. Josh
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        S & H

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      5. Drip Doctor
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Thanks, leaning that way myself. Hoping Newcastle will fade.

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    9. Loooser
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      hmmmmm, I would risk with A. I do not fancy BA anymore.

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      1. Loooser
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        *reply fail to conspiracy

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        1. Drip Doctor
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Cheers.

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    10. el flacooo
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      what would you advise me
      A) bale out adam in
      B) sess out sigur in
      ??

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      1. Josh
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        B if you insist on doing one of them

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        1. el flacooo
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          i ve two free transfert, and bale rvp kelly sess senderos who are doubtful...
          i think i have to use at least one transfert!

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    11. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      What striker should I take a one GW punt on, WCing for GW28, Yak, Pog, LaWhore?

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      1. Jinswick
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Pog - at home to a leaky Wolves side and he's up top with great support for a high scoring Fulham side. Yak is a close 2nd...

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        1. Declan
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          I was thinking the other way round, Yak vs villa with Dunne out and possibly Collins and Hutton too.

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          1. Jinswick
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Hmm, actually I think it's very close between the 2. Perhaps Yak being on pens might edge him in front actually. Hutton out probably helps Villa though...

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            1. Declan
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              Thanks Jinswick, agreed on the Hutton point 🙂

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    12. PL Ball
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      A) Zamora ==> Yak
      B) Dzeko ==> Yak
      C) Save FT

      ?

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      1. LewanGOALski
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        I would go with Dzeko to Yakubu

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      2. el flacooo
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        B

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      3. Josh
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Dzeko has to go

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      4. PL Ball
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Cheers lads. Was thinking the same thing!

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      5. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        keep Dzeko this week, he won't play many minutes.

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        1. PL Ball
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          lol

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    13. LewanGOALski
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Nani & Ba
      or
      Gutierrez & Rooney

      ?

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      1. PL Ball
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        2nd option.. but someone better that Guti

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        1. LewanGOALski
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          any recommendation? - got 6.1 mln then to spend

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          1. PL Ball
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Maybe Pilk?

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            1. LewanGOALski
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              already got him 🙂 also Mata, Silva and Sessegnon

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              1. LewanGOALski
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 11 months ago

                what about Jarvis ? then I could also improve Lescott to Kompany or Santon to Simpson

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        2. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Ah Dudu I hope you are ready for a whipping this weekend. My Peons are primed and ready.

          If you're getting Rooney and have 6 million to spend get Pilko, Siggy or KLAXON

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          1. PL Ball
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            Bring it On JK, bring it on. 8)

            Great Grav btw.

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            1. Djerbil
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              Your name makes me go "Fits"-- its only the local Bengali(Indian) language u know..

              but its 😀

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    14. DundalkKid
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Hi Folks,

      Will Shotton start for Stoke tomorrow ?

      Cheers,

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    15. Djerbil
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      I think I am tempted to demote Kelly to my bench and bring in Caulker..he could well come off the bench for 5-10 min trying to protect a Lead..

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Caulker will start for sure, may even grab a goal, has gone close recently and scored for the U21s.

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        1. Djerbil
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          He=Kelly...(prepositions can be a Nightmare)

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 11 months ago

            I'd think Kelly will start. But from your defence I would play Richards, ShawX and Caulker, Kelly 1st sub,

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            1. Djerbil
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 11 months ago

              yeah I'm doing the same with Krul in goal..

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    16. FPL Daniel
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      So Kaboul is fit?

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      1. hvsauce
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        I believe so Daniel. No mention of him in the team news.

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        1. FPL Daniel
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          Damn if King starts Dawson might not play but after that 5 goals against Ars I hope for the opposite

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    17. Josh
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Ignoring Bale and RVP injuries, this is my Team for this GW

      Schwarzer

      Santon Kompany Senderos/Tawio

      Siggy Bale Dempsey Silva(c)

      RVP Ba Dzeko

      Mig.....Tawio/Senderos, Cahill, Valencia

      thoughts and order please friends...

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      1. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Senderos will probs not start so I'd stick Taiwo in. Captaining Silva is a huge risk, he doesn't often deliver big scores. If Clint is OOP he's a better option.

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        1. Josh
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          hmmm, he did score a fantastic goal for Spain on Wednesday night. And I really can't see Bolton's defence predicting his splitting passes.

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    18. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Has Mancini does his press conference yet?
      I saw something on Tevez but nothing else.

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    19. @ImpressiveTackl
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      Okay considering the epic fail of my previous straw poll which now looks like a no brainer now....

      I think the hit may have put people off. So lets say I keep Ba. I get Skrtel and Pilkington....

      For GW28 (no hits)
      a) Rooney
      or
      b) Suarez

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      1. Egg noodle
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        a

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      2. Scroobius Mac
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        Thats the million dollar question isn't it? I'd go b but I'm sure many will go a.

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      3. Declan
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        b

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      4. Elniñorules
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        A by a mile 🙂

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      5. HappyAnkit
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        B..........

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      6. udit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        A

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      7. @ImpressiveTackl
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        ^^^^ Conclusive. 🙁

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        1. udit
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 11 months ago

          A again.

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    20. takemehome
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      out of these 3 who do i play
      BAE
      Evans
      Simpson

      i have krul in goal and im playing Kompany and Caulker

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      1. Egg noodle
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        simpson

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    21. el flacooo
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      sigur or mclean?

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      1. takemehome
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        sigur

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    22. Smurf
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 11 months ago

      RMT for this week please.

      Hart
      Skrtel / G.Johnson / Kompany
      Bale / Dempsey (c) / Mata / McClean
      Rooney / Aguero (vc) / Ba

      Mignolet / Surman / Evans / Santon

      Any thoughts welcome?

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      1. drunken_mess
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 11 months ago

        2 pool def??

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