Awards

Vote for the best FPL midfielders of 2019/20

After discussing the runners and riders between the posts and in defence, our end-of-season Fantasy Premier League awards series continues with a look at the midfielders up for nomination.

Overall score, points per match and value are all factors to consider as we invite you to vote on the candidates listed below.

FPL has been something of a midfielder’s game for the last few years, with the last six highest-scoring Fantasy assets all being classified in this position.

The three players with the most FPL points in 2019/20 were midfielders, as were the top six players with the best points-per-match averages.

We might have even more to choose from next season, with Pierre-Emerick Aubayemang and Marcus Rashford possible candidates for reclassification.

2018/19 Team of the Season Review – Midfielders

  • Goalkeeper: Alisson
  • Defenders: Trent Alexander-Arnold, Andrew Robertson, Matt Doherty
  • Midfielders: Sadio Mané, Mohamed Salah, Raheem Sterling, Ryan Fraser, Eden Hazard
  • Forwards: Raúl Jiménez, Sergio Aguero

Three of last year’s Team of the Season are up for nomination again, with Raheem Sterling, Mohamed Salah and Sadio Mane all matching their achievements in 2018/19 by cracking the 200-point mark.

We’ll discuss their credentials in detail below.

With regards to the other two, their follow-up acts have been rather less celebrated.

Eden Hazard has long since ceased to be an FPL asset, of course, with the former Chelsea winger moving to Real Madrid last summer.

The Belgian has scored only one La Liga goal in what has been a stop-start, injury-ravaged campaign.

As for Ryan Fraser, the fact that his FPL price dropped £0.7m over the course of 2019/20 pretty much tells its own story.

The Scotland international managed less than a third of the attacking returns he had delivered in the previous campaign, registering just one goal and five assists en route to his lowest points tally in four years of being a Premier League player.

His time at Bournemouth ended in acrimonious circumstances, too, with the winger having refused to sign a contract extension beyond June 30 and thus playing no part in the Cherries’ ill-fated attempt to beat the drop.

Now a free agent, it’ll be interesting to see where the Scot ends up in 2020/21 and how much his starting price falls – which seems inevitable – in FPL.

2019/20 CANDIDATES

KEVIN DE BRUYNE

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While there is plenty of debate elsewhere, it’s difficult to imagine Kevin De Bruyne not making our end-of-season XI.

The Belgian was the highest-scoring FPL asset in any position in 2019/20, racking up 251 points and finishing some distance ahead of Mohamed Salah thanks to his final-day haul.

Starting the season off at a now-unthinkable £9.5m, De Bruyne’s ownership had almost quintupled by the season’s end (he finished the campaign as the most popular asset in the game) as he broke Salah’s two-year hold on top spot in the overall points table.

The City midfielder had a torrid time with injuries in his previous campaign (hence the price drop) but missed only two league matches for fitness reasons this time around, starting 32 of the 36 fixtures he was available for.

This included an unbroken run of starts from Gameweeks 9 to 27, with rotation only really affecting him when City were faced with a glut of dead rubbers following the mid-June resumption.

De Bruyne began the season with attacking returns in each of his first six starts, returning three double-digit hauls over that run.

There were a pleasingly symmetric 10 returns of 10+ points over the course of the campaign, with his hauls in Gameweeks 17+ and 38+ representing high points.

Only two midfielders – both of whom were at the budget end of the scale – represented better value for money than De Bruyne (23.7) based on points per million, despite his end price of £10.6m.

And only Bruno Fernandes (9.0) averaged more points per match than the Belgium international (7.2) in 2019/20.

MOHAMED SALAH

If 233 FPL points represents a ‘poor’ season in some people’s eyes, then you must be a special player.

Mohamed Salah‘s total of 29 attacking returns was his lowest since moving to Merseyside in 2017 but only De Bruyne outscored him on the points front this season and even then, the Belgian only pulled clear in Gameweek 38+.

There were parallels with 2018/19, with a decent start giving way to more middling returns in the autumn and then an explosion of points around Christmas.

After registering just two double-digit hauls in the first 15 Gameweeks, Salah then delivered five such points bonanzas in his next ten appearances – one of which came in Double Gameweek 24.

As had been the case against Huddersfield the previous season, the Egyptian saved one final massive score for the run-in, registering 18 points against Brighton in Gameweek 34+.

Salah enjoyed home comforts more than most and he was a reliable pick for the captaincy when at Anfield, with 15 of his 19 goals arriving on Merseyside.

In only four of his 18 home appearances did he blank.

Salah began the season at £12.5m and ended it there, and he’ll surely be in a similar bracket next season.

Whether he’s as widely owned, given the wealth of premium midfield options that are set to be available, is another question.

SADIO MANE

Finishing only 12 points behind his Liverpool teammate above, Sadio Mane ended up as the third-highest-scoring FPL asset of the season.

There was only one fewer attacking return than Salah, too, with the Senegal international supplying 18 goals and 10 assists despite playing over 100 fewer minutes than his fellow premium midfielder.

Removing penalties (and any bonus that came from it) from the equation, Mane actually outscored Salah in terms of attacking returns and FPL points – although we Fantasy managers care little for how our hauls arrive.

Mane turned out to be the better-value pick based on starting prices (£11.5m v £12.5m) but, ending the season less than half a million behind his teammate, there was little to separate the pair come Gameweek 38+.

The Senegalese winger racked up eight double-digit hauls in all, just two of which came this calendar year.

From an underlying stats perspective, there were similarities to 2018/19 with Salah dominating the shot count (over 50 more than Mane this season) but his goal conversion rate being significantly inferior.

In four of Mane’s last five seasons has he hit at least 20 attacking returns and he’ll surely be priced around the £11.5m-£12.0m mark again next season.

BRUNO FERNANDES

The inclusion of any January transfer window signings in an end-of-season poll will be greeted with derision in some quarters but late arrivals have forced their way into contention in the past, with Gylfi Sigurdsson and Papiss Demba Cisse having previously made our team of the year.

And few mid-season captures have quite made the impact that Bruno Fernandes has.

No FPL asset in any position averaged more points per match than the Manchester United midfielder (8.4) this season and while that mean would surely have dropped had he played the entirety of the campaign, 14 appearances is no tiny sample size.

Fernandes scored more points (117) from his Gameweek 25+ debut onwards than the likes of Diogo Jota, Ismaila Sarr and Nicolas Pepe did all season, with only three blanks arriving in his 14 starts.

Six double-digit hauls were registered in that time, too, a total that no other Manchester United asset could beat across the whole of 2019/20.

Half of his goals came from the penalty spot but there was plenty to like besides that, with assists arriving from all quarters and his mere presence galvanising the rest of the Red Devils’ attack.

Fernandes’ ownership increased by 2000% following his arrival and his price ballooned from £8.0m to a high of £9.1m; it’d be a major surprise to see him priced up below £10.0m in 2020/21.

ANTHONY MARTIAL

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This season will almost certainly have been Anthony Martial‘s swansong as an FPL midfielder, with a positional reclassification looking very likely this summer.

While Manchester United’s attack is one of the more fluid in the division, the Frenchman played ‘out of position’ as a central striker for much of 2019/20 as FPL forward Marcus Rashford took up a role out wide.

This was by some distance Martial’s best-ever FPL season, with the 24-year-old striker racking up 17 goals, nine assists and 200 points and finishing a clear fifth among FPL midfielders in the overall points table.

The arrival of Fernandes and later return to fitness of Rashford and Pogba seemed to invigorate him, with 15 of his 26 attacking returns coming in the final 13 Gameweeks.

Martial averaged 8.0 FPL points per match over this period, which elevated his season mean to 6.2 – the joint-fifth-best in the division.

Having previously had something of a reputation as being injury-prone, he also became a reliable starter after an early-season spell on the sidelines, missing only one of United’s final 29 league matches.

The imminent rebrand will come at a cost: he would have scored 31 fewer goal/clean sheet points as a forward this season, although would have admittedly recouped a handful of those due to the quirks of the Bonus Points System.

RAHEEM STERLING

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Also finishing on 6.2 points per match was Raheem Sterling, who endured a rollercoaster 2019/20.

No FPL midfielder scored as many goals as the Manchester City winger (20) and yet for large chunks of the season, he was persona non grata with Fantasy managers.

Having started the season with a hat-trick against West Ham and goals in his next two outings, the returns started to dry up.

Between Gameweeks 4 and 29, Sterling recorded just six goals and two assists and averaged a fairly dismal 3.95 points per match.

The enforced break from March to June seemed to work in Sterling’s favour, however.

Five of his nine double-digit hauls for the season came from Gameweek 30+ onwards, with Sterling racking up 86 points in the run-in despite beginning three of City’s final ten league fixtures on the bench.

A total of 206 points was his lowest in three seasons – a lack of assists accounting for that – but he nevertheless passed the 200-mark for the third straight year.

That end-of-season flurry may have put paid to any hopes of a price drop in the coming campaign (he started and finished 2019/20 at £12.0m) but he significantly underachieved based on expected assist data – suggesting his teammates’ poor finishing hampered his returns – and there is every chance of an even better year in 2020/21.

JACK GREALISH

A poor 2020 from an FPL perspective blotted Jack Grealish‘s copybook, with the Aston Villa talisman registering only two attacking returns in his final 15 appearances.

It shouldn’t be forgotten how impressive he was before that point, however.

Grealish racked up seven goals, six assists and 14 bonus points in the first 23 Gameweeks of the campaign, averaging a very respectable 5.0 points per match over this period.

Double-digit hauls against Brighton (twice) and Burnley were individual highlights, with Dean Smith’s decision to move him into a front three in Gameweek 7 sparking a real purple patch.

Despite the barren run in the final third of the campaign, Grealish still finished first for overall score (149) and points per match (4.1) among sub-£7.0m midfielders.

Crucially, given the different criteria we’re assessing in this piece, he was also the best-value midfielder of the season based on FPL’s points-per-million metric.

Only De Bruyne created more chances than Grealish in 2019/20 and, with a better finisher than the limited Wesley, Mbwana Samatta and Keinan Davis on the end of his crosses and passes, there would have been more points to show for his efforts.

TODD CANTWELL

For Grealish, see Todd Cantwell.

After netting against Crystal Palace on New Year’s Day, Cantwell didn’t manage anything other than a blank in the remaining 17 Gameweeks of the season as the Canaries struggled for goals.

Despite that shortage of points in 2020, Cantwell still finished as the highest-scoring sub-£5.0m midfielder of the season.

Grealish was the only midfielder who provided better value based on points per million, meanwhile.

His early-season exploits led to a price rise of half a million, with attacking returns arriving against Newcastle, Chelsea and Manchester City in the first five Gameweeks.

Originally selected by little more than 20,000 FPL managers, Cantwell featuerd in over 1.8 million squads by Gameweek 7 and four more goals followed between then and Gameweek 21.

The drought that followed has tarnished his legacy but he was the go-to fifth midfielder for many of us in the first half of the season and is deserving of an honourable mention at the very least.

RIYAD MAHREZ

Finishing as the sixth-highest-scoring FPL midfielder but a damn sight cheaper than all bar Martial above him, Riyad Mahrez made big strides following a slightly underwhelming debut campaign at Manchester City.

Mahrez’s total of 25 attacking returns was the same he recorded in his final season at Leicester City but he managed it in over 1,000 fewer minutes, having started only 21 of the Citizens’ 38 league fixtures.

While the Algerian did make a further 12 appearances off the bench in 2019/20, his achievements were all the more commendable given how relatively little pitch-time he was afforded: Sterling, for example, managed just one more attacking return than Mahrez despite racking up over 700 more minutes.

Only Fernandes and De Bruyne averaged more attacking returns per 90 minutes than Mahrez among FPL midfielders this season.

Three of his six double-digit scores arrived in the first seven matches of the campaign, with a 17-point haul against Aston Villa in January representing his zenith in a single Gameweek.

It was his contribution in Double Gameweek 30+ that really stood out, however, with the Algeria international scoring 21 points across City’s games against Burnley and Arsenal.

On the negative side, there were 12 scores of exactly one point, with Pep Guardiola’s in-game rotation affecting Mahrez more than most.

SON HEUNG-MIN

Son’s tally of 24 attacking returns was his best ever since moving to the Premier League and he would have gone close to his 2017/18 total of 178 points had he not missed a penalty and been dismissed twice.

His exploits merit special praise as he sat out eight Spurs games through injury or suspension.

Half of Son’s six double-digit hauls arrived in Jose Mourinho’s first four matches in charge in north London.

Under the Special One, the South Korea international’s points-per-match average rose from to 5.1 to 5.9.

While there are more explosive players out there, Son was remarkably consistent throughout 2019/20: on only one occasion did he make more than two consecutive appearances without registering a goal or assist.

ADAMA TRAORE

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One of the most infuriating players to own in the final third of the season due to Nuno Espirito Santo’s propensity to change shape and personnel in attack, Adama Traore was nevertheless one of the best value-for-money assets in FPL up until Gameweek 25.

Indeed, he finished the season as the fifth-highest-scoring midfielder – behind Grealish, Cantwell, De Bruyne and Martial – based on points per million.

It’s easy to forget that Traore began the season as a £5.0m bargain buy.

No midfielder with a starting price of less than £6.0m racked up more FPL points than Traore, who ended the campaign with four goals and nine assists to his name.

From Gameweeks 4 to 25, the winger started all but one of Wolves’ Premier League matches.

Whether many of his owners enjoyed his hauls is another question, given his ‘benchable’ price: his two highest scores of the season both came against Manchester City, with another double-digit return arriving away at Spurs.

From Gameweeks 6 to 24, he averaged a very creditable 5.0 points per match.

HARVEY BARNES

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Like a number of the cut-price midfielders listed above, Harvey Barnes‘ season petered out somewhat towards the end.

Eight blanks in nine post-restart fixtures (five of which were as a substitute) slightly tarnished his earlier work, with the Leicester City winger finishing the season on six goals and 10 assists.

No FPL midfielder priced up at less than £7.0m registered as many attacking returns (16) as Barnes this season.

His 19-point haul against Aston Villa was a real stand-out moment, with his pre-lockdown form (he averaged 8.5 points per match between Gameweeks 24 and 29) representing his best spell of the campaign.

Five assists across four matches in the autumn was another high point.

Game-time was a bit of a problem, it should be said: he made only 24 starts across the whole of 2019/20 and was substituted off in 20 of them.

NOT QUITE MAKING THE CUT

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We’ve limited the number of midfielders up for nomination to 12 in this piece, with the heavy hitters (De Bruyne, Salah, Mane, Sterling, Son) accompanied by slightly cheaper alternatives (Martial, Fernandes, Mahrez) and some budget assets (Barnes, Grealish, Cantwell, Traore) thrown in for good measure.

There were others who had strong cases for inclusion, however.

Richarlison finished only four points behind Son after another 13-goal campaign, while only two midfielders scored more bonus points than Willian this season.

Chelsea assets are perhaps a little hard done by in this piece, with Mason Mount another contender from the £6.0m bracket but ultimately finishing with fewer attacking returns than both Barnes and Grealish in the same price point.

Many of you may be wondering where Christian Pulisic is, too.

The American had a superb end to the campaign, with nine attacking returns in as many post-restart fixtures, but that more than doubled his total for the rest of the season.

Pulisic had started just 12 league matches before his late-season flurry from Gameweek 30+ onwards.

Similarly, Michail Antonio ended 2019/20 on a real high note and made a late push for nomination.

From Gameweeks 1-27, however, the West Ham United attacker had registered just three attacking returns in what had been an injury-ravaged campaign.

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587 Comments Post a Comment
  1. Zimo
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Thinking of starting without KDB or Salah if they're too highly priced. Is it madness?

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not at all. More than one way to win FPL. Didn't someone really highly ranked go without TAA for almost all the season?

      Key thing is having good(c) candidates.

      1. Zimo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I will have Bruno as captain option. I want a premium forward option available to rotate Werner/Kane/Aguero for captaincy options when they have good matches coming up.

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Dilva only played 1821 minutes this season. Aguero's contract ends next season.

          It is Jesus time.

          1. Lovren an elevator
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I'm sorry, I've missed something, whats Dilva's minutes gotta do with Jesus? I do agree though, jesus is a big player next season!

        2. Xanthorpe
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          If you're concerned about price, you're better off getting Salah or KDB instead of Bruno, who I don't believe will be worth the price.

    2. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I alwas start and end with Salah so he is an autopick.

      1. Zimo
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I might get him if he's somehow less than 12 but I don't intend to captain him so i can better spread those funds elsewhere.

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Can't see Mo being less than 12.0

      2. The Overthinker
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        The only player I had since gw1 till gw38 , 20 times captained him

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I capped him like 24 or 26 times if memory serves me correct. 382 points.

    3. The Train Driver
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not at all, Salah is in decline...

      1. RedLightning
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • Has Moderation Rights
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        But not as much as Kane and Aguero.

  2. Je suis le chat
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Kdb might need a rest after the champions league. Liverpool assets should have an advantage.

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Bruno looked like he needed a walking stick, Europa to come, he may need a wheelchair after that.

  3. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Does not look like LFC will be very active in the window. Possibly a CB in place for Lovren and if others leave like Shaqiri or Origi, then replacements for them. If Milner decides to go them most definitely someone comes in for him.

    We still have big squad. Problem for us is finding players to be second fiddle to TAA, Alisson, Robbo, VVD, Salah, Fabinho, Salah, Mane and Firmino. Keita starting to find his feet and Gini has become Mr reliable. We still have to see what Minamino is really capable of.

    Our spine is super strong. Klopp probably will blood the kids in this coming season and what better oppurtunity do the youngsters have knowing they are playing for the Champions.

    Title defence on!

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Curious what they’ll do

      This season is going to be really tight on the schedule - losing a month and more at this end. There’ll be minimal rest periods. Chelsea would appear to factoring in rotation and possibly United too.

      Could be some knackered players at the pointy end of the season.

    2. Lovren an elevator
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Brewster one to watch maybe?

    3. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      “... Klopp probably will blood the kids in this coming season ...”. Hope you’re right - I’d like to see Jones play.

  4. Karan14
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Re: Sancho

    No agreement YET. Total amount 120 mill euro. Negotiations around how high initial fee/how many installments/ over how many years

    But I understand that:

    VERY likely that Sancho will leave Dortmund.

    VERY likely that his next club is Manchester United

    https://twitter.com/JanAageFjortoft/status/1289244920444665857?s=19
    (Very credible source apparently)

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jesus Christ what a signing that would be

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        17G 17A in 32 bundesliga appearances his season - without penalties

        1. Zimo
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Does that include fantasy assists for penalties and set pieces?

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Transfrmrkt don’t count fantasy assists no - it’s a ridiculous set of numbers for a 20 year old

            To put that in context - when Leroy Sané was that age in Germany he was posting 8G 8A for a season

            1. Zimo
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Damn then that is amazing. 17 goals and 27 assists from open play

              1. Zimo
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                17*

          2. Karan14
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I read somewhere that he won 10 penalties for Dortmund. So that's 27 assists including fantasy assists.

            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Wow - 27 A sounds a bit extreme - maybe transfrmrkt do count penalties won as assists

              1. MosF94
                • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                16 assists on Understat, where penalties aren't counted as assists (99% sure)

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Indeed - really exciting move. More important than BL record which would moderate anyway it would give United a whole new angle of attack.

        Which one do you stop Bruno or Sancho?

        There was I thinking how much sense Jim made as a battle hardened PL striker with a pair of potential crocks and a babe up top and Ighalo for the FA cup and eventual reversion to Europa

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          One of Martial’s most impressive stats this season (if not *the* most impressive) was starting 28 of the last 29 league games

          The kid has obviously been putting in tireless work behind the scenes to get himself out onto the pitch no matter what

          Up there as one of the fittest players in the league this season

          I kind of like the idea of that front 3 with Greenwood as cover for all 3 positions

          1. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            🙂

            I started the season with Martial and held him for weeks early on. Less impressed by 28 of 29 than you 😉

            Point taken of course - it feels like a season where at least one extra attacker is pretty essential. Makes me curious about Liverpool inactivity. Still to see Minamino I suppose

            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Yeah I always chuckle when I see he old “Martial is injury prone lol” strawman rolled out - it’s all relative, KDB, Mané, Salah, Sterling all missed more games in the last 7-8 months

              1. pingissimus
                • 5 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Sort of but he still missed 6 on the trot - that’s serious if it repeats and it has - without checking gaps in previous seasons.

                Jury out for me until he puts together a complete season.

                1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                  • 14 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Show me a player who’s just strung together 28 of 29 starts & I’ll show you a fit player 😉

                  1. pingissimus
                    • 5 Years
                    3 years, 8 months ago

                    Difference perhaps between fit and reliable - or at least reliably fit.

                    KdB though is your obvious counter of course 🙂 and much better chance of avoiding those muscle injuries if he’s not out there 180 minutes a week or so or whatever this season has in store

                    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                      • 14 Years
                      3 years, 8 months ago

                      Yep just always have to raise an eyebrow when the homework hasn’t been done on the old “Martial is injury prone” strawman

                      I think it’s now more “Martial *was* injury prone” 😉

    2. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      And Ógie is VERY happy that Sancho is joining us. 🙂

    3. Brosstan
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Jan Aage is very very reliable source for German football.

      Seems to be happening then! Price 10m?

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        11.0 mid maybe? He’s posting fairly elite numbers in Germany...

    4. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      And then he flops lol

      1. JURGENAUT
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        In that Utd team, with his quality I wouldn’t think he flops tbh

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Many of UTD's big money moves have flopped in recent times.

          1. JURGENAUT
            • 3 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            I’d hope so but he is special, probably 10-11m in FPL if he arrives

            1. FOO FIGHTER
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              I do not see many fitting him at that price.

  5. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    What is happening to Chelsea players like Batshuay, RLC and CHO the coming season? Absolute waste for all 3 of them to stay at Chelsea where they won't get a sniff outside the league cup..

    Surely they could all fit in well at other PL clubs, even only as a loan? Bats for instance would be a clear upgrade on Sheffield's limp strike force

    1. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wondering exactly the same

      In another year you could see them being loaned out to another top club abroad but I assume that no longer tallies with COVID about.

      Bats I guess they sell - way down the pecking order now. Did really nicely for Palace as did RLC - in fact I suspect the Palace season is RLC’s calling card - he’s never had a shot at a run for Chelsea really iirc

    2. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Presuming Kante, Kovacic, Jorginho split 2 CM positions and Ziyech, Pulisic, Werner are all first choices...

      What does it do in the dressing room when you have Tammy, Giroud, Barkley, RLC, CHO, Bats, Gilmour, Mount all pretty much struggling for game time I wonder?

      Willian & Pedro at least are gone which declutters the place a little

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Mount will get plenty of football and i expect Tammy to get some games again. Giroud is a squad player. Gilmour can spend another season waiting on the bench in the hope of an injury of loss of form.

        Barkley, CHO, RLC should all leave on loan at minimum and Bats should get a transfer

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          “Some games” may not fill Tammy & Giroud with hope though & if Havertz comes in that’s another body in front of Mount, Gilmour, Barkley, RLC, CHO etc 🙂

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            i think they'll be told the position is theirs to win. Chelsea need two strikers and neither of them are good enough to start for a better side so can see them sticking around

            The milfs is where they'll need to trim the fat.

      2. JURGENAUT
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Also potentially Havertz incoming

      3. amitmishr
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Mount is Lampard 2. Will be q regular starter

  6. sully29
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    So how good is Jadon Sancho? And how good an FPL prospect would he be in this United side?

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      very good and very good

    2. JURGENAUT
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Add another premium player to the list

    3. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Sancho was very poor head-to-head against Alphonso Davies (Bayern). I wasn't impressed. Haven't seen much else of him though ...

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Alphonso Davies is not a normal human being though, and Bayern are not a normal team - when Sanè was Sancho’s age he had roughly half of Sancho’s Bundesliga output over a season

        Guarantees nothing of course, but it’s an interesting reference marker/benchmark for comparison

      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        AD is a very good player himself.

        I remember seeing Ashley Cole dominate Cristiano Ronaldo once, but its to small a window to judge a player and you cant win every head to head - especially against elite teams/players.

        Take a look at his stats. Watch a few highlights and you'll get an understanding of why hes being touted as a 100m+ player

        1. Brosstan
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Players can have an off day too.. I remember seeing absolute shite tier Norwegian full back Tom Høgli dominate prime Ronaldo ... Sancho is obviously top tier even if he had a bad game or two against Bayern

  7. SADIO SANÉ
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Greenwood getting benched again already? nice

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He should still get plenty of games I’d imagine - especially for someone his age

      Rashford, Martial, Sancho first choice front 3 with Greenwood slotting in any of those 3 positions...

      They’ll have a lot of games between all comps next season

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        yeah still kinda lame but whoooo cares

    2. JURGENAUT
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Won’t be as attractive of a FPL asset i guess

    3. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He's still very raw and there's plenty of games to go around.

  8. Sap
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    PayPal is stealing our money. Be informed.

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      thanks, care to share some information?

    2. FPL Pillars
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Expand

    3. Zimo
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Eh?

    4. g40steve
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Just cancel the auto renewal.

    5. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Use “send to friends & family”

    6. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      What does crappy German ERP software know about money ... ?

  9. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    anyone know of a fantasy forum for F1?

    1. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      fantasyf1forum.com

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        🙁

        1. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          my apologies

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            🙂

  10. pingissimus
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Reluctant to start pencilling in players before fixtures and pricing but unless United move for Grealish too Bruno does begin to look almost unavoidable if Sancho happens

    I’d been thinking one of Rash Martial or Greenwood may have been where the value might lie. They’d be really tricky picks until we see how it shakes down.

    1. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Sancho is seriously over-hyped

      1. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Not my point at all - the United frontline is in the short term anyway a really tricky FPL selection if you’re aiming for consistent minutes over a stretch of matches

    2. Karan14
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yup can see him ticking along nicely with consistent hauls like KDB. He'll get more pens and assists because of Sancho (won 10 pens for Dortmund this season).

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Yeah Bruno looks pretty non negotiable unless they price him at 11.0+ he’s almost a no-brainer

      If Rashford is a midfielder that might swing it - he should hopefully be good for somewhere in the region of 20G 10A, and Ole really only lets him rest when he’s injured

      But to be honest I’d be tempted with the treble up with Martial as well - those three were very lucrative on the run in, lots of G/A combos where you’re getting 2 fantasy returns plus two sets of baps for single goals

      Remains to be seen how Sancho impacts things though *if* indeed he does get signed

  11. FPL Theorist
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Interesting thread with prices from the FanTeam game:

    https://twitter.com/MattyhFPL/status/1289250038472781825

    Surprises (to me):
    - Only DDG and Pope 5.5 GKs. Would have expected Lloris, Patricio, and Schmeichel also.
    - VVD 6.0 DEF is a bargain. Azpi 6.5 and Alonso 6.0 rather than the other way around. Aurier 6.0 a bit steep?
    - Sterling 11.0 MID (1.5 less than KDB) seems like a bargain. Greenwood all the way up to 8.5, albeit as a MID.
    - Kane still overpriced at 11.0, the same price as Auba. Maybe not overly surprising, but Martial 10.5 FWD, 0.5 more than Rash who remains a FWD. Antonio only 6.5.

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      price predictions though, can see a lot of those being some way off the truth when numbers are revealed by the towers

    2. MosF94
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      There are some dodgy ones in that game imo - Rudiger and Bellerin at 4.5? Can't see FPL doing that

      1. MosF94
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        They also have 4.0 midfielders and forwards...

  12. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    OK. Boredom killer for you. Pick your all time Premier League XI with the following rules applied

    1. Players must have represented one more clubs while the club was in the Premier League (so premier league era only)
    2. Only one player per Premier League team (so Cantona wouldn't count as a Leeds United player since they were old div 1 when he played for them, but he would count as a Man U player and thus no other Man U players could be selected alongside him)
    3. Formations: you can play a 442, 433 or 343 but your players must fit their positions realistically. No back 4s of pure fullbacks and no midfields of pure attackers.
    4. Teams judged on how well they'd have performed in real life, not as fantasy football picks

    1. diesel001
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      To clarify. KDB and Salah both played for Chelsea and another PL club. So if you pick one of them, you can't pick a Chelsea player even if you designate them as Man City / Liverpool?

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        yep, only one

        1. diesel001
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          GK: Schmeichel (Man Utd)
          DF: Baines (Wigan, Everton)
          DF: Terry (Chelsea)
          DF: Southgate (Palace, Villa, Middlesbrough)
          DF: Kelly (Leeds)
          MF: Bale (Spurs)
          MF: Gerrard (Liverpool)
          MF: Fernandinho (Man City)
          MF: Okocha (Bolton)
          FW: Henry (Arsenal)
          FW: Shearer (Southampton, Blackburn, Newcastle)

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Bale clashes with Shearer but i don't think Shearer played for Saints in the PL (old D1) so you're cleared there.

            Brilliant team, LOVE the Okocha pick - i nearly went with him too.

            Would upgrade Southgate for Laursen/Mellberg or best of all McGrath (his Man united days were D1 i believe)

          2. pingissimus
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Really tidy

            Clean forgot about Kelly. Okocha is a brilliant call.

          3. Jay Jay Okocha
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Brilliant

    2. have you seen cyan
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Your rules are too hard, or i misunderstand I cant find a decent keeper for love nor money lol. Foods here so this will do

      RVP - Henry - Shearer
      Lampard - KDB - Gerrard -
      Baines - - Campbell

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Its hard isn't it!?

        🙂

        Campbell, RVP and Henry clash as Arsenal players and I think KDB would've played at some point for Chelsea in the PL so could be a clash with Lamps

    3. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      My first draft... just need a marauding right back

      Southall
      XX McGrath Terry Bale
      Gerrard Y.Toure
      Juninho
      Ronaldo Shearer Henry

      1. Goonsquad245
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Coleman, jaaskelainen in goal?

        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          very good shout

    4. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I have elected to go with a 3-4-3 with a diamond midfield but it could easily morph into normal 4-4-2/4-4-1-1/4-2-2-2 etc. depending on the situation.

      I think this squad will take beating. 😎

      Schmeichel(MC)
      TAA(LP) Pallister (MB) Terry(CH) Cole(ARS)
      Keane(NF)
      Bale(SOT) Giggs(MU)
      Lampard(WH)
      Cantona(LU)Rooney(EV)

      1. diesel001
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yuo can't have all of Rooney, Cantona, Giggs, Keane, Pallister because they all played for Man Utd (even though they played for other clubs)

        1. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Ohh right,i missed that part 🙁

      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        1) its an excellent team
        2) you've broken a few rules (albeit they aren't the easiest to follow)

      3. Ógie
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        *elected to go with a 4-4-2 i mean

    5. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Only ten men but I win anyway for fitting in Le Tiss and Kinkkadze.

      Martyn
      Baines xxxxx Terry TAA
      Kinkladze Keane Modric Le Tiss
      Shearer Wright

      Could of course switch Kinkladze out for Kompany and slot Vardy up top but that would be boring

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        "only ten men but I win anyway for fitting in Le Tiss and Kinkladze" Hard to argue mate, lovely team

        Stick Paul McGrath in there!

        Martyn and Baines played for Everton by the way #heartbreaker

        1. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Grrrrr

          Speroni then 🙂

        2. pingissimus
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Can you imagine Roy Keane, Kinkladze and Le Tiss on the same team? Don’t think there’d still be ten men still playing by half time

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            :LOL:

            1. 7shadesofsmoke
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              would be an amazing night for MOTD pundits though

      2. pingissimus
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Ok

        Ravanelli up top as just remembered Shearer at Southampton. That gives me Albert at the back

        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          i think Shearers Saints link is void because that was before PL era

          Ravanelli is a legend though, so love the switch - great shout 😀

    6. Lucky Z
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Lloris
      Shawcross Terry Hangeland
      Le Tissier Ndidi Gerrard Giggs
      Henry Aguero Shearer

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        nice team = Ndidi a left field pick!

        Ridiculous front 3. no pace at the back. Goalfests

    7. Rover
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      GK: Jaaskelainen (Bolton, West Ham)
      CB: Terry (Chelsea)
      CB: Kompany (Man City)
      CB: Ledley King (Spurs)
      DM: Ndidi (Leicester)
      CM: Gerrard (Liverpool)
      CM: Gascoigne (Middlesborough, Everton)
      AM: Le Tissier (Southampton)
      FW: Henry (Arsenal)
      FW: Shearer (Blackburn, Newcastle)
      FW: Ronaldo (Man United)

      And they would line up in a narrow 343 setup, with the flexibility of going 3313, 3223, 31213, 3133 depending on the game situation. The front 3 are each world-class and can exploit the width, the back 3 can deal with anything that comes into the box, and the midfield will block out any thoughts of the opposition playing through the centre.

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Ahh, Gazza as a spud though!

        Love the King pick - which one you gonna replace?

        Otherwise, an awesome team and nice tactical approach to your selection.

        1. Rover
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Wasn't Gazza's spud days before the PL was formed?

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            i have not checked - but if thats the case, amazing 🙂

        2. Goonsquad245
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Not sure Gazza played for spurs in the prem?

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            yep 1992 he left - i stand corrected!

      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        possibly the best one yet (even if you did leave out Paul McGrath)

        1. Rover
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Thanks! Will probably need to keep him in as 12th man especially given my injury-prone picks.

    8. Whiskerz
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Don't think there are any team clashes here.

      Southall
      McGrath . Ferdinand . Southgate
      Robben . Le Tissier . Toure . Barnes
      Shearer . Bergkamp . Klinsmann

      1. Whiskerz
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Whoops. Southgate is supposed to be Radebe.

        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          i think he still clashes with Rio Ferdinand (Leeds)?

          Great team, probably getting overrun in midfield but an amazing array of creativity in the final third!

  13. have you seen cyan
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    England have such a decent attack, shame our defensive side is so garbage.
    These attackers/midfielders:
    Kane, Rash, Vardy, Ings, Sterling, Sancho, Grealish, Alli?, Madison?, Henderson, Foden?, TAA

    1. Herman Toothrot
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Gilmour

    2. SADIO SANÉ
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Sterling Kane Sancho
      Saka Henderson Grealish TAA
      Gomez Maguire AWB
      Pope

      attempt to mould Grealish into Moutinho, Nuno manager 😀

    3. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      DM, CB, and GK positions are too weak to win anything. Those positions are the spine of the team. Shame....

      But amazing choice in the fullback, attacking midfield, and forward positions. You forgot Greenwood btw!

      The games should be exciting at least!

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        you're forgetting that Phil Jones is world class in all three of those positions.

    4. TheDragon
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Why have you overlooked Jesse Lingard. He is a great young talent

  14. JJeyy
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Rashford should become a mid, all games since restart he has been wide left

  15. J Kennedy
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Hey guys, long time reader but I don't venture as far as posting very often.

    I was wondering if anyone has any experience with or good methods for projection. This could include week to week projection or season long projection for either teams or players or both. Obviously it's going to have it's weaknesses but I do think there is a nugget of value in there if only to help with our framework of decision making.

    Most of the mock ups I've done are more or less based on averages or plain old conjecture (random guessing :)) but I was wondering if styles or methods.

    As a related ask do anyone know if it is possible to get the week by week breakdown of each player for each week without a manual data scrape? This would be of the fantasy data that you can get from the official FPL site. I can do it manually but at 650+ players it gets a little old plus I can't find a source for past seasons. Thanks

    1. Piggs Boson
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Not entirely sure what you're asking. But I'll brain dump what I'm messing around with before I inevitably abandon it after GW1...

      I've copied data from an FFS member's custom table into an excel spreadsheet so I can process it and analyse it. What stats you value, and the weightings of each factor, is entirely down to you and your preferences. My rankings are:

      1. Fixtures

      2a. xAttPts (A stat I made up that weights xG and xA against how many pts a goal and assist is worth i.e. 4/5/6*xG + 3*xA. It automatically identifies the players' position and gives the correct points for a goal).

      2b. Team xGC stat. This will help determine how good a defence is and factor into goalkeeper, defender, and midfielder CS calculations.

      3. Eye Test.

      There are a host of other things like saves, bonus, and long-term xG delta (finishing quality) too. Haven't decided on how much I'm going to weight these factors. It will probably be refined over the years. I'm currently writing a python program that interacts with the excel data so I can do more crazy crap with it. Currently writing the GUI.

      I suggest you start with making ratings for each team's defence and attack so you can process the fixtures when they come out and apply the fixture weightings. I have an attacker ticker, and defender ticker, with the ratings all done, just waiting the fixture list to be dumped into.

      When the game actually starts I'll probably lose interest quickly. This pre-season analysis is my favourite part 😆

      1. J Kennedy
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Cool, thanks for the thoughts.

        What I'm asking is perhaps more of a common North American thing (I'm from Canada). Within the context of the major sports here like the NFL weekly projections and season long projections for player and team performance are all the rage but they don't seem to have the same traction with FPL circles.

        It may just be more of a fools errand and everyone but me already knows that 🙂

        Thanks for giving your explanations about some of the stats you use. What is your data source for xG, xA and xGC?

    2. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Become a member of this site and look for the ‘stats area’.

      Or FPL Review, Live Fpl, Fpl Discovery etc

      There are many amateur and professional statisticians with FPL models around.

    3. jtreble
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Buy a one month membership on here: all kinds of tools and stats (Opta) you can try/evaluate.

  16. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Question time and no peeking

    Which GK has the most clean sheets in the PL era?

    1. Goonsquad245
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Cech? David James?

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I need to ask a question which is not easy enough to find on google lol.

        1. Goonsquad245
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Or a question that’s not easy enough full stop...

          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Ha ha

    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Daveth James

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Wrong

        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          really?

          1. FOO FIGHTER
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Cech

      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        pretty impressive when you consider how many average to rubbish teams he played for and how bad he was when he played for Liverpool

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Sencond most clean sheets.

          He was either like Superman on the night or one of those goats which have a condition where they freeze and fall over.

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            lol

  17. Dr.Oftaw
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Had a Similar question in a quiz recently but about most appearances though and that answer was Mark Shwarzer

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      thats not fun. At least ask the question first 😆

      1. Dr.Oftaw
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Lol no wondering as he played most might have most cleanies

  18. 7shadesofsmoke
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    First Goalkeeper to score a premier league goal (not an own goal obvs)?

    1. FOO FIGHTER
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Wasn't it Heaton?

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Ooops, own goal...

      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        incorrect.

        Although there is an interesting link - both Heaton and the actual Keeper have played for two of the same clubs

        1. FOO FIGHTER
          • 4 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Could it be Given?

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Nope, although hes also got a club in common

            1. FOO FIGHTER
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Guzan? And it is a wil guess.

              1. FOO FIGHTER
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                *wild*

                1. 7shadesofsmoke
                  • 11 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  no more beer for that man!

                  answer below 😀

                  1. FOO FIGHTER
                    • 4 Years
                    3 years, 8 months ago

                    Alcohol has been banned in our country lol

                    1. 7shadesofsmoke
                      • 11 Years
                      3 years, 8 months ago

                      sounds like it hasn't done you any good 😆

                      Where is your country?

                      1. FOO FIGHTER
                        • 4 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        Ha ha

                        South Africa.

                        Smokes also banned but high ranking government officials caught smoking on tv plus you are allowed to smoke in casinos buying cigarettes illegally. Try work that out.

                      2. 7shadesofsmoke
                        • 11 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        😀

                        VAT must be massive across the board then!

                      3. FOO FIGHTER
                        • 4 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        Corruption at a new level.

                      4. 7shadesofsmoke
                        • 11 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        come to England, you can get some smokes and beers off a 14 year old at laser quest

    2. Dr.Oftaw
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Mark Schwarzer

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        you fackin love the Schwartz don't you Doc.
        😆

        No

    3. Ragin Cajun
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Brad Friedel

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        nope, but has a club in common! 😆

    4. Baron Penguin
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Peter Schmeichel

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        BOOM! congratulations

        for Aston Villa in a 3-2 defeat against Everton, October 2001

        1. Ragin Cajun
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          I actually remember this now, gave the ball a right whack!!!!

          1. 7shadesofsmoke
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            yeah was a brilliant finish 😀

            he also ripped the outfielders a new one too instead of celebrating

  19. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Feels like this is the first season for a while where we will have extremely many nice premium options?
    Interesting season incoming!

    1. Goonsquad245
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Agreed, really looking forward to it. Won’t be able to have all of Salah, Mane, Sterling, KDB, Bruno.

      I hope they price Bruno at 11m - he’ll just be an auto buy any lower.

      1. IN SANE IN DE BRUYNE
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Indeed & Indeed 🙂

      2. Boywiththesoupdragontattoo
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Imagine how hard it will become if Aubayemang does get reclassified as a mid. I’ll be rotating a pair of 4.5m strikers let alone defenders. Especially with some interesting options just below premium (Son/Pulisic)

  20. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Which player scored a goal from the halfway line in an opening fixture of a PL season.

    1. Ragin Cajun
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      David Beckham against Wimbledon FC

      1. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Correct

  21. FOO FIGHTER
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Name the PL player which snorted a line after scoring a goal.

    1. Ragin Cajun
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Too easy Robbie Fowler

    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Robbie Fowler if we are talking the touchline on the football pitch as a celebration.

      Adrian Mutu IRL though

      1. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        probably off a hookers anus

      2. FOO FIGHTER
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Ha ha, yes Fowler. What a player!

        1. Leftea
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          He also picked up a match ban for taking off his shirt in a goal during a goal celebration showing off his Support the Liverpool Dockers tee shirt. What a great lad.

  22. TheDragon
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Looks like Sterling is rising tonight based on FPL statistics - worth getting in for a -4 for Salah?

    1. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      not sure unless you're planning on captaining?

    2. Cok3y5murf
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      A player in decline out for a hit definitely worth it

    3. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      TC Dilva surely this week

  23. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Man Utd have broken the British Transfer record on six occasions:

    Denis Law 1962
    Bryan Robson 1981
    Andy Cole 1995
    Juan Veron 2001
    Rio Ferdinand 2002
    Paul Pogba 2018

    Will #Sancho#7 be the seventh??

    1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      *2016 for Pogba!

    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      and look how they turned out...

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        A fair few medals between that lot!

        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          yeah, they made some stinking signings but to be fair, when they go IN, they've brought some amazing players to OT

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Yeah every club signs the stinkers for sure - just not every club signs a Keane, Cantona, Ronaldo 🙂

            1. 7shadesofsmoke
              • 11 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              I think I've hated united for as long as i can remember but i have to say its eased a lot thanks to their lack of recent success.

              That said, so many players ive loved have played there.

              Never seen a more terrifying front three than Tevez, Rooney and Ronaldo - amazing signings.

              watched them go to town on us at villa park and was one of those games where you have to appreciate just how good the opposition were.

              1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
                • 14 Years
                3 years, 8 months ago

                Yeah I loved that forward line myself - especially in Europe, so devastating on the break

                Kind of thinking Sancho is too good to be true to be honest, wont believe it until I see it!

                Rashford, Martial, Sancho in front of Bruno & Pogba is a calibre of attack they just haven’t had in a long, long time

                1. Piggs Boson
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 8 months ago

                  Strong front 5 for sure. Just need more depth beyond the XI.

                  Looks like Graelish is unlikely now Villa have stayed up. But a flexible playmaker who can cover multiple positions would be ideal.

                  Then there's the defence... which could do with some work...

                  Sancho is an exciting thought though, I hope it happens... 🙂

                  1. 7shadesofsmoke
                    • 11 Years
                    3 years, 8 months ago

                    I think they just need a world class centre back (look at what VVD did for liverpool) and a world class CM to sit behind Pogba and Bruno.

                    1. Piggs Boson
                      • 12 Years
                      3 years, 8 months ago

                      You don't think they need attacking depth?

                      Personally don't have much faith in Lingard and Andreas to step in. Norwich in the FA Cup showed how bad that was...

                      1. 7shadesofsmoke
                        • 11 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        we're working on the presumption that Sancho arrives so that puts a front three of Sancho, Marti and Rashford.

                        Greenwood is very promising. I think hes better than liverpools 4th choice attacker and they won the league by a landslide.

                      2. UnitedFan
                        • 8 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        Still need a quality attacking mid as a backup imo.

                      3. 7shadesofsmoke
                        • 11 Years
                        3 years, 8 months ago

                        must have some young players coming through.

                        Way i see it, getting a first XI is key, Liverpool have shown the bench doesn't need to be packed with world class players if you field a consistent XI and can get the best out of those you play when resting a star player.

                        I think the goal this window should be those two positions - the best players they can possibly get (alongside Sancho)

                        fringe players aren't so important

          2. Piggs Boson
            • 12 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            They've all made stinking signings.

            Liverpool bought Carroll and Downing for £50m. City bought John Stones for £50m. Chelsea brought Torres for £50m. Arsenal bought Pepe for £70m. Spurs bought Ndombele for £55m. It happens.

            United over the past 10 years have been particularly horrendous in the market though. Hopefully an end to that now...

            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              Shevchenko, Aquilani, Kepa, Jeffers, Stones, Rodwell, Mangala... there’s always an unknown element with transfers - every club lands their fair share of stinkers for sure

    3. Ógie
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      *eight

      Was not Roy Keane a transfer record back in 1993?

      1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
        • 14 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Yeah it’s all over the place tbf - they did break it for Keane plus also Angel Di Maria

        https://www.manutd.com/en/news/detail/the-six-times-man-utd-broke-the-british-transfer-record

        They’ve put in some small print that “This is if you count all deals involving an English or Scottish club, and not just incoming moves. For example, the sale of Mark Hughes to Barcelona in 1986 eclipsed the previous record, as did Cristiano Ronaldo's switch to Real Madrid in the summer of 2009.“

        I’d hate to think they’re trying to erase Keano from the history books - that’s pretty much what he would expect given the way Ferguson & quieroz treated him on the way out...

        But it’s strange/coincidental timing that they’ve chosen now to publish this list... more smoke from the Sancho fire...

        1. Ógie
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Aye

          The spite between United/Fergie and Keane is still strong after all these years.The whole thing always left a bad taste in my mouth as United fan that totally idolises Keane.

          The day Roy left United lost part of it’s soul and never got it back.Hopefully some day the relationship can be mended but with two stubborn proud men like that it will probably never happen.I think both men felt betrayed and thought so highly of each other In the first place that it was easier just build a wall between them rather than deal with the emotional fallout of the breakdown in their relationship.

          It’s sad reality but happens all the time with friends,family’s and colleagues falling out.

          That’s just life I guess.

          1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            He’s still my all time favourite Man Utd player & there’ll never be another like him - saw an interview with him as a 21 year old with Forest & he was already like a young Khabib Nurmagomedov in his demeanour & interaction

            An absolute warrior, who was a superb footballer into the bargain

            The way it ended left a sour taste in the mouth, very disappointing behaviour from Ferguson to be honest

  24. FFSbet.com
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    If Sancho sign i am going with 0 Man.Utd players.

    They will share points and not worth it with premium prices for all imo
    Plus probably very tired at start of season coz EL

    1. Goonsquad245
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Probably cements Bruno as the standout option as the most nailed to be honest. Makes the rest of the attack a minefield

    2. 7shadesofsmoke
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      That philosophy serve you well by boycotting Man City over the past couple of seasons too i assume?

      1. FFSbet.com
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Nah top 4k this season,without Lei players and Martial+Rash from start.
        Just interested in new ways and where the puck is going to be.

        If Pep was their manager probably double attack

        1. 7shadesofsmoke
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          personally think the form they showed to end the season was worthy of investment (provided the pricing is right).

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I’d be soooo tempted to stick with Bruno, Rash, Martial - the way they were able to get the goal, assist and two sets of baps from a single goal was just so lucrative

      Was rewatching the 14 game run in - Martial was insane, the goals against Chelsea, Watford, Sheffield United and Bournemouth were outrageous

      They scored 30 goals in 14 games since Bruno joined - Bruno & Martial got 32 attacking returns between them during that run (each played all 14 games, and each got 16 returns)

      1. FFSbet.com
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I get where you coming from but they will all be with premium prices and Martial as forward 10M+ which i wont (C) so not an option.

        Better options out there imo,would get Sterling + Pulisic over Mau.Utd assets

        1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
          • 14 Years
          3 years, 8 months ago

          Martial should do quite well as a forward, it should finally enable him to get some baps (14 baps despite getting nearly 30 attacking returns tells its own story)

          Reckon he’ll get away with just the penalty of the reclass plus a 2.0 price rise to 9.5

          The good thing is himself & Pulisic aren’t mutually exclusive 🙂

          KDB at 11.5-12.5 means I’ll likely skip Sterling

          1. Goonsquad245
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 months ago

            Think I read somewhere that if you’d swapped Rashford/Martial’s positions this season, their points tallies would basically swap too.

            On Martial’s price, a good precedent is Firmino. Went from a 180 point season in midfield at 8.5 to a forward at 8.5 the following season. Just depends on how much weight FPL put on 200 points vs 180 (in terms of marginal gains it’s quite a lot) and how much they weight end of season form...

            I think £10m is about right because of who it is, but I wouldn’t be shocked to see anything from £9.5 to £10.5

            1. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
              • 14 Years
              3 years, 8 months ago

              10.0 certainly wouldn’t be out of the question - possibly even10.5 but it’s a rather large step up from the 7.5 he started this year at

              It’d be nice to see him get away with just the reclass combined with a +2.0 Price hike (which is quite substantial in & of itself)

              Something seemed to click with him when Bruno arrived, his body of work prior to then obviously wasn’t too shabby - but since the team gelled with Bruno on board he noticeably went up a gear... as a forward I reckon he’ll have another good go at getting to the 200 mark & possibly beyond

      2. 7shadesofsmoke
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I think Bruno-Marti are the two (depending on prices)

        GW on my watchlist incase of any sign he'll start next season too

    4. noquarternt
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Think Bruno on pens will be worth big $$$.

      But they’re all going to get enormous price hikes so what we got comfortable with after the restart is sadly gone for good.

  25. Piggs Boson
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Apparently United are looking at Gabriel Magalhaes, Lille's player of the year. A 22-year-old left-footed CB previously linked with Chelsea and Everton.

    Source: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12039010/gabriel-magalhaes-manchester-united-monitoring-everton-target

    The Metro claim his representatives are in the UK to negotiate a transfer.

    A left-footed CB badly needed. Annoyed City got Ake...

    1. UnitedFan
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I've heard he's more likely to go to Everton. Apparently his agent is using us as a ploy to raise the price for them similar to what happened with Mina. Don't know what to believe though. We'll just have to see. Pau Torres is another name floating around regarding CB targets of ours. 23 years old, left-footed and fast. Again, we'll just have to wait and see. Do you think Ake is good enough? Genuine question.

      1. Eze Really?
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        I heard he signed personal terms pre-lockdown.

    2. pingissimus
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I don’t suppose I could sell you a different left tooted centre back from France - he comes via Crystal Palace and his wage demands are really quite reasonable. Very few mistakes each season nicely balances very few minutes played - any correlation is coincidental

      1. Zilla
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Comes with insanely good haircuts too

    3. goriuanx
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      He's a LCB, just like Maguire. First City, now United. Something isn't making sense?

      1. Amey
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        Agree
        Maybe it's usual press BS.
        Jimenez one also looks unlikely. Would be very odd signing with all due respect to Raul

    4. HollywoodXI
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      That would be a very good signing for United.

  26. Earn your Spurs
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Help please!

    How can I export data from Player Stats into Excel so I can play with the data there?

    Thanks 🙂

      1. Eze Really?
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        That is Waaaay past my bedtime Holmes. (smile)

    1. Aztec Kamara
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I tried this but getting #REF! When entering the formula. Has anyone got this to work since the end of the season?

      1. Aztec Kamara
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        In case anyone’s interested I figured it out. The URL has changed so the one you need is: "https://fantasy.premierleague.com/api/bootstrap-static/" note drf>api and / on the end

  27. Young Lingard
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    I am wondering about the price difference (swing) between TTA snd Robertson.
    I still think Trent is the more effective from set pieces etc but I think his price will raise and Robbo who is now taking more corners might be forgotten about.
    These are the things I feel might be important
    The switch of classification of martial and Rashford bring another . Martial as a midfielder was the difference maker for me last season.
    It’ll be how to manage the slight game changes early that could be key. In the two years I have played I’ve started poorly in each

    1. Goonsquad245
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      There will be .5 to 1m difference between the two. Depending on what that looks like there will be a case for one, both, or neither.

      At 7 and 7.5 I’ll likely have both, at 7 and 8 it’ll just be Robbo, and at 7.5 and 8 it’ll likely be neither or just TAA.

    2. Amey
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      Only 0.5m difference will be there. Key would be to stick with whoever you got. Changing can create trouble.
      If Robbo Taa is too expensive i think I'll go for VVD instead of Robbo then.

      1. Young Lingard
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 months ago

        If Liverpool return to the defensive mind set VVD will be a bargain cheaper than the both
        I think he didn’t get as many goals BAPS or CS’ as he could get
        He will be at least 1m off Trent

    3. Maximus Bonimus Pointimus
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I’d guess Robbo holds at 7.0 & TAA gets bumped to 8.0 (Maybe 7.5?) due to DFK’s & goals from play - being only 21 you’d have to think there’s another gear or two there for him as well

      I actually started with both last season & it was hard to hold them through the “2 cleansheets in 15 games” spell, but was worth it in the end

      The thing with Robbo is goals - prior to GW35 he had 1 career league goal for pool (in 70+ games) whereas as TAA develops & grows you’d expect that ridiculous right boot to pop in more & more long range shots & DFKs plus the record breaking assist record

      But regardless of all that - Robbo’s still (Marginally) the record points scorer for an FPL defender (Though TAA will have another good go at that next season again) & overall has an awful lot going for him

      Definitely grounds for a double up for those who don’t mind going slightly lighter at the other end of the pitch initially

      Robbo as a fourth defender in a 4-4-2 vs. 3-4-3 with a 6.5-7.5 third striker will be a popular debate I’d imagine

    4. Andy_Social
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 months ago

      I'm putting TAA at 7.5 and Robbo and VVD both at 7.0.
      Martial will a less attractive option as a striker - 4 instead of 5 points for a goal and no CS point - plus a price hike. Martial, Rashford and Greenwood's attractiveness will be adversely affected if United bring in Jimenez and/or Sancho. I'm thinking of starting with only Bruno as my United asset.

  28. Patio Kev
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Right only just started picking a team for this SPL FF game and the deadline is only a couple of hours away.

    Any hints on who to pick other than Celtic players ?

  29. lilmessipran
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Has anyone seen the prices and player positions for the new season in the fanteam game? Do we think fpl will have similar prices?

  30. Patio Kev
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 months ago

    Also do we think there will be any leaked team news on here before 11.30am for the Rangers line up ?

    Need to know if Ross McCrorrie starts.