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Three-time top 200 finisher Lateriser: Lessons learned from a poor start in FPL

Having finished 30th in the world last season, the two-time top FPL manager in India reflects on an indifferent first two months of 2020/21.


The start of the season has been quite poor for me. I’m currently sitting at 3.7 million in the world, with a Gameweek rank of 3m+ in six out of the seven Gameweeks to date.

Looking back at why I’m struggling, there are a few questionable decisions that I can pinpoint from which I can learn. Normally I’m not much for self-reflection and prefer looking forward rather than backward but a poor start like this does mean that there have been a few poor decisions made along the way, and reflecting and learning from them can only help.

I’m going to try to make sure that this self-analysis isn’t very hindsight-y and try to assess what I may have done wrong without losing my identity as an aggressive Fantasy Premier League manager.

Letting go of the known for the unknown

This is one of the main reasons for the poor start. I started the season without a single Liverpool attacker and that has cost me some points. Going without one of the prime Liverpool midfielders and instead opting for three questionable unknown quantities like Dele Alli (£7.5m), Timo Werner (£9.3m) and Kai Havertz (£8.4m) was maybe a stretch too far. I’m all for taking punts on new players in the league but in hindsight, compromising on one or two of these picks and instead opting for a known quantity like a Liverpool midfielder would have been a better move.

I’m not saying I should have gone completely without any punts or move away from my risk-friendly style of FPL management but I feel like I could have shown some more restraint and not gone so over the top and spent close to 25% of my Gameweek 1 budget on unknown quantities.

There’s definitely a lesson learnt here.

I for one cannot resist a new toy and have had a fair amount of success in the past when jumping early on the likes of Michu, Kevin De Bruyne (£11.6m) and Mohamed Salah (£12.4m). The key difference there was that these players were coming into a fairly settled side, whereas Chelsea was just a new team altogether and expecting them to click from day one was definitely an error of judgement.

I made a similar mistake in opting for three Wolves assets on my Gameweek 3 Wildcard. Yes, it was a correct call to play the fixtures but Nuno Espirito Santo was adding three to four new players to his starting XI and I ought to have proceeded with caution with a team in transition.

Differentiating for the sake of differentiation?

I was having a conversation with my podcast partner Zophar and asking him for feedback. He said that I might have gone too far in terms of differentiating for the sake of differentiating. There is a thin line between having a genuine gut instinct and “differentiating for the sake of differentiating” and I definitely need to identify the same.

If I’m looking back, foregoing Salah against a newly promoted side at home in Gameweek 1 and instead opting for Werner on his league debut was a poor call. This might have leaned towards gratuitous differentiating and is something I definitely need to check.

Zophar told me that “sometimes fear is good”, especially when it comes to such extreme calls where I know how heavily I can get punished backing against the league champions in their first home game of the season against a newly promoted team. It is exactly what happened and I paid the price for a poor call.

Both Zophar and another regular poster on the Fantasy Football Scout forum, Camzy, thought that the Gameweek 7 captaincy call on Raheem Sterling (£11.6m) might have been a decision in similar vogue and that is where I disagree with them. Given West Ham United’s defensive form as well as my presumption that Tottenham Hotspur might struggle against Brighton and Hove Albion, I thought it was a good opportunity to captain a Manchester City player who showed signs of an explosive haul during his game against the Hammers.

It wasn’t the two squandered chances towards the end of the game that made me lean towards a Sterling captaincy in Gameweek 7 but rather his positioning in the second half, where was he placed right where he needed to be in the centre of the penalty box waiting for his teammates Joao Cancelo (£5.4m) and Riyad Mahrez (£8.3m) to square the ball to him. This wasn’t the case in the earlier games where Sterling wasn’t finding himself in the right position.

His goal and assist in the midweek Champions League game further gave me the confidence to go ahead with this decision and I was hoping Pep Guardiola would continue with a front three of Sterling, Phil Foden (£6.6m) and Ferran Torres (£6.9m), who had shown signs of good link-up play. I was also very encouraged to see Sterling operate on the right, which in my opinion is his best position. I assumed that, after Foden’s man of the match performance, Pep would persist with the front three and, with De Bruyne back, I was backing City to score a few.

The problem was Foden fell sick and Mahrez played extremely selfishly on the right (there are rumours of him and De Bruyne having an argument after the game due to this), which somewhat depleted Sterling’s output despite him looking sharp in the first half.

Of course, I’ve made many such calls in the past which have worked beautifully for me and I’ve given you my read of the same. The learning here is the poor Gameweek 1 call, where I captained Werner instead of Salah, which looks like a clear case of differentiating for the sake of differentiating and one I should definitely avoid in the future. But I should also not stop playing my natural game, which was the Gameweek 7 instinctive read, and I need to identify which is which when I’m making my decisions.

Practice what you preach

There are two key points that I always mention when talking about why I’ve done well in FPL so far.

The most important one is to adapt to what the new season is bringing to you. I am definitely guilty of not adapting to the new season and the data it has brought. In Gameweek 2, Spurs demolished Southampton, and you can write that off as a freak result. But the key was the performance the Lilywhites put in against Newcastle in Gameweek 3. Yes, the game finished 1-1 at the end but those who saw the match will know that there were enough indicators that a monster haul from their attackers was coming.

I kept being stubborn and writing Spurs off as I thought they would not sustain this form despite having good fixtures from Gameweek 5, and I only bought Harry Kane (£11.0m) last Gameweek. Ideally, a good FPL manager would have seen that performance against Newcastle and plumped for them. That is correctly adapting to new season data but even after the Spurs result against Manchester United, I flouted another standard practice of mine.

I always say that when you are getting a player in your team, get him at the start of a good run of fixtures, even for a hit, so that you increase your odds of catching a haul. I should have done this after the Manchester United game but I was stubborn (which paid off in the short-term as I scored 91 points in Gameweek 5) but this stubbornness has cost me over the mid-term.

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There are definitely lessons learnt here and I hope to come back to this article at the start of next season so I don’t repeat the same mistakes.

Going forward, there is a tough decision for FPL managers in terms of what to do with Spurs assets given the fixture turn. Over the last two to three seasons, I’ve aggressively played the fixtures and the reasoning for the same is in this article. I haven’t made up my mind as yet because I’m debating whether doing this again (which has been my style for a few years) is not adapting to the season.

At the moment, Spurs’ attacking output has dropped in the last couple of games so I’m leaning towards playing the fixtures, especially when the biggest flat-track bullies in the league – Manchester City – go on a mind-boggling run of matches. Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United also have a decent stretch of games coming up, too.

Thankfully, there’s enough time to ponder over this dilemma. Until then, here’s to more growing and improving as an FPL manager.


What is FPL Upside Chasing and how can I implement it in 2020/21?

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  1. D.Glynn
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    1.8 itb and 1 ft.
    If you owned, a) Mitro, b) Foden and c) Taylor.
    Would you
    1. Use FT for?
    2. Bench 1 for?

    Options for both welcome and needed please.

    1. Tcheco
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      1. Would upgrade Taylor for Chillwell/Zouma/Cresswell/Coufal
      2. Bench either Mitro or Foden

    2. D.Glynn
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Rest of team might help,
      McCarthy
      Robbo Chill Just
      Salah Son Zaha Foden
      Kane DCL Mitro
      4.0 Taylor Strujk Burke

  2. linkafu
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    What to do with Mitchell??

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Leave him on your bench.

    2. NotsoSpursy
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yep bench. Although I may need to play him

      1. Pep bites Kun
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        You reckon he'll play with PVA fit and back in the team?

    3. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Bench and rot

    4. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Don’t waste trades on the 4.0s unless you are on a FT, WC or you have a Combo Trade that requires it.

  3. Brosstan
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Looks like there will be two Pukkis this season.

    Bamford and Wilson. Buyers beware

    1. Tcheco
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      They will keep scoring. Haven't owned either yet but thankfully there are other forward options doing the business

      1. Brosstan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        No they wont. Pukki owners said the same thing last year when I said he was that year's Mitrovic

        1. Tcheco
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Ok

        2. Weeb Kakashi
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Ok then you are a Pro.

          1. Brosstan
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            No just a smart casual

        3. Camino Aleatorio
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Wilson is a good player, his issue has been injury.

          Bamford is very Pukki-like. Many smart players are terrified to own him. A 26 year old white boy, English, on a Promoted club, he should be working in an office, not playing football

          I own Bamford, but I am terrified. He might be my 20/21 Lundstram, i will bench his hat tricks.

          1. Indpush
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            "Many smart players are terrified to own him. A 26 year old white boy, English, on a Promoted club, he should be working in an office, not playing football"

            Terrified. Hahaha ridiculous. Players who own him are stupid players (except for you who are in a third category; smart player who owns him and is terrified) Pretty stupid.

            He shouldn't be playing football professionally but should be working in an office because he is 26, male, white, English and on a promoted club? Why is that?

    2. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Pukki was good for a while.

      You can hold Bamford or Wilson until they stop scoring or Antonio gets well

      1. Pep bites Kun
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        What's your criteria for 'they stop scoring' - 2/3 weeks or more?

        1. Tcheco
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Not my OP but I feel it's that combined with a fixture turn

        2. Camino Aleatorio
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          Causal Alert! (ME)

          My criteria is shots on goal. The underlying stats dry up before the goals. This means the opposition has figured out the attacking scheme and the returns are OVER.

          A starting forward needs 2 to 3 shots per game to be a decent FPL asset, at least 1 big Chance.. I only look 4 weeks back.

          Between Wilson, Watkins, Maupay, and Bamford....there is ONE new Pukki and ONE new DCL/Ings/Jiminez.

          *** I am a very regular FPL player ****

          1. Pep bites Kun
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 5 months ago

            Good to know you're regular 😉 I enjoy a once-a-day myself

            Dare to share which ONE's then or do we have have to pay to have a look under the orange blanket?

  4. The Alli Way
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Martinez (4.0)
    Robertson Zouma Lampety (Dunne (Mitchell))
    Salah Son Barnes Foden (Bissouma)
    Kane (C) Jimenez DCL

    A) Foden > Grealish
    B) Foden > Bowen
    C) Barnes & Foden > Grealish & Bowen (-4)
    D) Barnes & Foden > Soucek & Rashford (-4)

    1. linkafu
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A

      1. linkafu
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Or C but Barnes fixtures don't look that bad

    2. NotsoSpursy
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      A

  5. linkafu
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Masuaku or Coufal? Why?

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Coufal. There's a possibility that West Ham could change to a back 4 at some point in which case Cresswell would move to LB and Masuaku would be dropped.

      1. linkafu
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Thanks exactly what I m thinking

    2. Miguel Sanchez
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Coufal - for reasons listed on previous page. WHU may want to revert to a back 4 to accommodate another midfielder (Benrahma) and Cresswell would be more likely to play at LB than Masuaku.

    3. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Coufal - I own him - because he is a very polished player in a very specific role. He returned vs good opposition

      Masuaku- is a great athlete. He is a nutter. Red cards, spitting, and fights with coach. He’s like owning Richarlison or Digne, ofher notorious nutters

      At this price point... Lamptey says hi

      Lamptey is special and only Nominally a defender

      I think Lamptey is playing Right Wing Forward much of the game

  6. NotsoSpursy
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Saiss -> Zouma

    Is Zouma the best option?

    1. I Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I prefer Chilwell if you have the extra cash but Zouma is good too.

    2. Kodap
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I did Saiss > Coufal

    3. Camzy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I did that move so I endorse it.

    4. NotsoSpursy
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks all 🙂 done. Hopefully not 3 weeks too late

    5. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Zouma is much better than Saiss, comparing Central Defenders

      Zouma is now essential to Lampard

      Zouma has an elite and brilliant Keeper behind him. Mendy is a beast.

  7. Kodap
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Am I G2G for this GW?

    I guess the captaincy is a flip of a coin between Son & Kane?

    Martinez (Steer)
    Trent - Coufal - Lamptey (Dallas & Taylor)
    Zaha - Podence - Son - Salah (Burke)
    DCL - Jimmy - Kane

    1. NotsoSpursy
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Kane

  8. Weasel Boy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Saiss + Jimi > Kilman + Werner?
    2fts

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Check Wolves fixtures and decide after that if you want Kilman.

      1. Weasel Boy
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Only way to get Werner.

        1. Pep bites Kun
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 5 months ago

          You going to play or bench Kilman? Next 2 fixtures at least don't look too bad

  9. mcsteely
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on this WC? 1m ITB

    Mendy, Forster
    Chilwell, Cresswell, Vestergaard, Lamptey, Kilman
    Salah, Son, Grealish, Ziyech Riedewald
    Kane, DCL, Wilson

  10. NotsoSpursy
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Chances Foden will start?

    I only have Mitchell and Bissouma so may as well play Foden right?

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      No point to own him if you are afraid of starting him every week.

    2. Weasel Boy
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      He got subbed in champs league so may start.

    3. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      25 minutes of Foden are better than your expected returns of the other two for 90 minutes. That’s why you own him.

      You have this risk for Foden every week. IMO.

      Even KDB has been Pepped before

    4. NotsoSpursy
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Thanks all

      Will sell next week.

    5. Pep bites Kun
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I'd play him every week, but have a 2 point bench-sitting sub. Don't have him, but he'll score enough for his price over the season I reckon

  11. cm790
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Sterling > Rashford for -4?

    1. Critical Observer
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Lol u wot m8, hells no, geez.

      5/5 for provoking me to log in to comment.

      1. n-doggg
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Hahaha

      2. cm790
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Haha brilliant.

        Rashford hat-trick incoming knowing my luck.

  12. Weasel Boy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    OK got 2fts

    A) Saiss + Jimi > Kilman + Werner?
    B) Saiss + Foden > Coufal + Grealish?

    Thanks

    1. Tcheco
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I like B

      1. Tcheco
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Danger with Saiss to Kilman is the former could take back his CB spot & that will hurt you badly. Might as well look elsewhere for a defender.

        And just look at Villa's fixtures after this week. Grealish is the man

  13. Karan14
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Is Werner the better Chelsea attacker to own over Ziyech for the next 4 games?

    1. n-doggg
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Both good options. Although Werner seemingly on pens

      1. Camino Aleatorio
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Pens, gotta love him for that

        All those swarming skill players like Pulisic, Mount, Ziyech, And Havertz are bound to be Continuously tripped, tackled, or clipped in the box.

        Werner on Pens is very compelling

    2. gryffsonofarthur
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Werner

    3. NETFLIX & CHILWELL
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Yes. Werner is involved in pretty much everything we do.

  14. Esalman
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Reguilon+Brewster to Coufal+Wilson for -4 worth it? Reguilon seems doubtful, I don't want to get stuck with 2 Spurs players next week and I don't play Brewster anyways.

    1. gryffsonofarthur
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Just get in coufal

  15. ClaireT
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Any Foden replacement me worth a -4 ?

    3.6 ITB to play with

    McCarthy, Button
    Justin, TAA, Coufal, Holding, Lascelles
    Foden, Salah, Son, Reed, Pereria
    DCL, Wilson, Kane

    1. ClaireT
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      *worth a -4 ?

    2. gryffsonofarthur
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Nah

  16. gryffsonofarthur
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Thoughts on Brewster?

    Sheffield United's run of games week 9-18 are amazing.

    Would be getiing in for either Jiminew or Mitrovic, freeing up funds for City assets.

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      I reckon Im getting him as part of a 2 FT to finance Chilwell and Grealish while keeping Kane, Son, Salah and Sterling.

      1. Pompel
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 5 months ago

        Still holding Sterling? I have the same four big hitters, and considering Sterling -> Grealish and then get KDB (funded by Kane or Son out) for City's green mile ?

    2. Iceball
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Fine option 2-3 on bench to afford more heavy hitters

  17. rnrd
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Really torn between Chilwell and Bellerin.
    I thik I prefer Chiwell but I just noticed there is just a 3 days turnaround between England's last IB game and Chelsea Eraly kick off game at Newctasle on GW10 so if Chilwell features on both England games it looks like a sure benching on GW10 isn't it?

    1. gryffsonofarthur
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Chilwell

  18. gryffsonofarthur
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Taking hits is easy. Playing the long game with solo transfers and the occasional doubler is the real skill.

  19. gryffsonofarthur
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Lots of luck needed this year. Random positive Covid results and freak injuries.

  20. gryffsonofarthur
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Question - who's that one player you still refuse to get in even though he's improved / gone to another level?

    Mine is DCL.

    1. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Son after selling him before GW2

    2. Long ago I drew a walrus
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Mane

    3. Long ago I drew a walrus
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Also you don't seem to be aware there's a new article?

    4. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Ward Prowsse

      I think his point burst is over- but he has always been a good player and nailed

  21. gryffsonofarthur
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Template Midfield going forward?

    Son Grealish Salah KDB/Sterling 4.5?

  22. gryffsonofarthur
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Template forwards?

    Brewster Wilson Bamford/Watkins

    1. Christina.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      how can that be template if everyone owns Kane & DCL?

    2. Camino Aleatorio
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      That’s non template- that’s differential

      Most people have 1 of those guys as a lottery ticket, not all three

  23. gryffsonofarthur
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Template Cheap Defence?

    Chilwell, Coufal/Creswell Dallas/Ayling Lamptey Kilman

  24. Christina.
    • 14 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    template bench anyone?

    1. NABIL - FPL otai
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Button Brewster Dallas Lamptey

  25. Camzy
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Watch Son and Kane clash tonight going for a header. Both out with concussion for WBA. Would be hilarious.

    1. Indpush
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Ya concussions are a scream.

  26. linkafu
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Coufal or Lamptay? Why?

  27. Mane Mane Mane
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Is it silly to triple captain Kane so early in the season. I’m very tempted, what should I do?

  28. Mikha In A Tutu
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    I've got two transfers. What about:
    TAA to Chilwell
    Fernandes to Aubameyang

    1. Openboxman
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 5 months ago

      Realpy don't like the auba shout, could be a good differential though.
      Grealish not excite you more?

  29. Openboxman
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    G2g?

    Martinez
    Chilwell - Reece - Bellerin - Cresswell
    Son (c) - salah - foden - Sterling - Ziyech
    DcL

    Fodder - Watkins - lamptey - Brewster

  30. Bathman315
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 5 months ago

    Wow this article is an exact replica of how my season has started! Gambled with Werner and Havertz although did have Salah who has got me out of trouble a few times! I have been taking risks far too much with differentials, Greenwood has had minimal impact, whilst I opted to take out Podence for Foden last week after persisting for weeks (doh)! I was also stubborn with neglecting spurs assets, to my detriment (Son has been my go to player for the past few seasons as well). Looking to wildcard in GW 10 and bring in De Bruyne, Son, Grealish and have a set and forget powrhouse midfield that I know will bank me points most weeks.

    My current team, what do you reckon?

    McCarthy

    Reguilon, Ayling, Justin

    Ziyech, Salah, Greenwood, Foden, Bowen

    Jimenez, Werner

    Subs: Button, TAA, KWP, Brewster