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Mane’s absence explained as Klopp benches Firmino for trip to in-form West Ham

Liverpool are without the services of Sadio Mane (£11.9m) for their match against West Ham United this afternoon, which kicks off at 16:30 GMT.

The Senegalese winger, who was transferred in by over 130,000 Fantasy Premier League managers following his 15-point haul in Gameweek 20, misses out with what Liverpool say is a “minor muscle injury”.

The Reds add that the problem is “expected to be only a short-term issue”.

His manager added ahead of kick-off:

In fact, only one of the Reds’ regular front three makes Jurgen Klopp’s starting XI today.

Mohamed Salah (£12.5m) is joined in the reigning champions’ attacking trident by Divock Origi (£5.2m) and Xherdan Shaqiri (£6.4m), with Roberto Firmino (£9.4m) only among the substitutes.

Along with the two changes to his front three, Klopp has replaced the injured Joel Matip (£5.4m) with Nat Phillips (£4.0m) at centre-half.

The Hammers are unchanged from the side that won 3-2 at Crystal Palace and David Moyes has even named the same nine substitutes from that victory.


West Ham United XI: Fabianski, Coufal, Dawson, Ogbonna, Cresswell, Rice, Soucek, Fornals, Bowen, Benrahma, Antonio.

Liverpool XI: Alisson, Alexander-Arnold, Phillips, Henderson, Robertson, Wijnaldum, Milner, Thiago, Shaqiri, Salah, Origi.

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  1. Feed tha Sheep
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    If you could transfer in and forward this week who would it?
    (Not Bamford or DCL)

    1. Feed tha Sheep
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Any*

      1. Big_Andy_GAWA
        • 12 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Firmino.

    2. Eleven Hag
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Richarlson vs Leeds?

  2. CrouchDown
    • 11 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Correct bench order for next GW?

    Martinez

    Cancelo Digne Coufal

    Sterling(C) Salah Bruno Gundo

    DCL Antonio Bamford

    Subs: McCarthy, Soucek Dallas Mitchell

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I guess. Another Soucek rampage on the cards if you do though.

      1. Flynny
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I'd start dallas instead of coufal

        Dallas is playing midfield in am attacking team

        Villa always score so doubt West ham get clean sheet

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Not changing your picture to Rusk?

          1. Flynny
            • 9 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            It would take me a while to figure out how to change jt

            Jim is a legend. Hopefully rusk move will work out though!

            1. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Rusk will have a very long way to go to match Jim's status even if he never has anything to do with the club again (which I find hard to believe).
              Good start yesterday anyway.

              1. Flynny
                • 9 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Agree..... Jim has been treated appallingly. Leaves a sour taste. But need to move on. Good start yesterday. Big game Tuesday. County fan?

                1. Fulchester's New Centr…
                  • 6 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  From not far away originally and used to go a bit during the halcyon days, but left the North West nearly 20 years ago. Still try to keep an eye on how they are doing.

  3. kennethrhcp
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    any easy to follow links to BGW/DGW spreadsheets?

    1. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Crellin twitter

      1. fedolefan
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Sent him to the hardest one to follow then.

    2. kennethrhcp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      i must be blink... cant see the gmwk26 possible dgws.

      i had it earlier im sure

      1. kennethrhcp
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        blind

  4. Lovren an elevator
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    What's the Raphina injury? I was strongly considering bringing him in

    1. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Really? I'm trying to ship him

    2. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Wait for news but Bielsa didn’t seem to think would miss next game

    3. Duke Silver ☑
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Left thigh was heavily taped up so I'm guessing it's something he's been managing.

  5. Big_Andy_GAWA
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Guys,

    PVA - thoughts ?! Is he likely to start now, going forward...?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      They won so, maybe

    2. kennethrhcp
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      read Arsenal interested as cover

  6. Rog.
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Do we think Gundo plays the full 90 against Burnley?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I hope so

  7. Firminooooo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    I love my jammy bench points from Chilwell and Cancelo: Soucek and Coufal=2 points.

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Get in

  8. Orion
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Get Watkins for Cavani for free? Yes or no?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Na

    2. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Wouldn't bother. I have him and he's no great shakes.

    3. TheBiffas
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I feel like he's gonna come good soon so yes

    4. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Lol

  9. Nanoelektronicar
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    After 14 consecutive green arrows, the run is over tonight.

    Last round I benched Soucek, this one I sold Bamford for DCL. Soucek really made mi tilt, bench, then reverse hoping to get something vs Liverpool (and Liverpool conceded from set piece anyway), points lost both times. Only two defenders out of five, too. Gundogan captain. Really gutted.

    1. Hey_Arnold
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Boo hoo. Can't be green every week. Suck it up and go again Tuesday.

      1. Nanoelektronicar
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        It will be even more misery on Tuesday I suppose.

        1. kennethrhcp
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Fudgy is that you 🙂

          1. ‘Tis the Season
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            dont encourage him...

    2. Bushwhacker
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      So 14 weeks of jam upset by one week of others jam....

  10. Eleven Hag
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 2 months ago

    Palace has the best set of fixtures starting next GW, would you consider any of their players?

    1. Fulchester's New Centr…
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      Wilf the only one surely

      1. Eleven Hag
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        No spot left in MF for me

        1. Big_Andy_GAWA
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          PVA...??

          1. Eleven Hag
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Mitchell -> PVA?

            1. Fulchester's New Centr…
              • 6 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Do that and will guarantee Mitch starts again.
              I'd look elsewhere in your situation.

    2. The Knights Template
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      The fixtures are the bait.
      And the troll lies in wait.

      1. Eleven Hag
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Lol

    3. Poetry in motion
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      I would consider Zaha, but no place in my midfield atm and want to save a FT anyway

    4. FourLokoLeipzig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 2 months ago

      No chance

  11. Vlekz
      3 years, 2 months ago

      My bench for next week is dier Brewster Ferguson. With the game weeks so close, should I still save the free transfer as planned or use it on a bench player?(will wildcard in 3 GWs)

      1. Fulchester's New Centr…
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        If you are happy with your XI then save of course

      2. Poetry in motion
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        I'd wait, you might decide to not WC 25 depending on what fixtures are in 26

        1. Vlekz
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I will have 0 spurs and practically no bench irrespective of fixtures (there will be many doubles, enough to BB, I guess and Spurs will have the best dgw). So for my 26 bb I will need the wc

        2. St Pauli Walnuts
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          How on earth do you still have Ferguson!?

      3. 420king
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Well, well... guess who rival gets subbed in for Stones, Sterling and Saka?

        Bamford, Dawson and Cresswell.

      4. DA Minnion (Former great)
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Coufal off the bench for 1 point. No jam .

      5. Mr. O'Connell
        • 11 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Really thought Kane was gonna play

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          1st bench for me (expect the worst and hope for the best)

        2. George Sillett
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Where have you been - Narnia?

          1. Christina.
            • 14 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            lol

          2. Sif
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Narian League they play faun faun two

            1. St Pauli Walnuts
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Good 'n

        3. Treadstone
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          You don't get subbed at half time in a vital match against Liverpool unless something is seriously wrong.That was enough for me.

      6. Saka_me_sideways
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Plan is to do Raphinha, out but which one?

        A) Zaha (good fixtures)
        B) Grealish (good form)

        ???

        1. Fulchester's New Centr…
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Prob B

        2. Poetry in motion
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          B one of the best value in the game

      7. It’s gonna Ben Mee
        • 10 Years
        3 years, 2 months ago

        Who to drop as the fixtures turn?

        A) Dias
        B) Stones

        1. Eleven Hag
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          They will still keep CS in one of those big games imo

          1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Sure but it just feels odd going into THAT run of fixtures with double defence.

        2. Poetry in motion
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Wait

        3. EL_FENOMENO
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Is that even a question?

          1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Have you seen their fixtures?

            1. Poetry in motion
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              The fixtures might change and they may have a few doubles

        4. Party time
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Play both. No Chris Wood & Barnes for Burnley. It seems they are injured

        5. Saosin
          • 10 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          My 3 forwards:

          Kane (red) - Lacazette (yellow) - Bamford (yellow)

          1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Branford is fine

            1. It’s gonna Ben Mee
              • 10 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              *Bamford

          2. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Need a green one really for the set

        6. Slitherene
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Salah, Son & Bamford hurting my rank!

          Martinez ¦ Forster
          Cancelo Maguire Holding
          Bruno Rashford Grealish Barnes
          Jesus Ings Wilson
          ¦ Saka Coufal Lascelles*

          1 FT, 4.6 ITB

          Which player to prioritize getting in?

          1. AC/DC AFC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Salah

            Then Son and Bamford

          2. The Knights Template
            • 10 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Rash to Mo

          3. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Interesting to see how Spurs do tonight before deciding, but Mo seems to have woken from his slumber.

          4. Magic Zico
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Salah in no question

          5. Geriatric Unathletic
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 13 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I would say it is your TEAM hurting your rank, lol.

          6. Poetry in motion
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Mo

        7. gonzalocampos
          • 9 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Best defenders for next week only besides City?

          1. Mr. O'Connell
            • 11 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Autopick

          2. AC/DC AFC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Liverpool and Fulham

          3. HuthTheMagicDragon
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Diamond Dallas baby

          4. Warby84
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I have Trent/ Robertson/Dias/Cancelo and I hope to clean up... Gutted today with 9 points lost from that goal

        8. Big_Andy_GAWA
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Is anyone losing Chillwell? Alonso could well get a start vs. Newcastle soon...

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            One more chance?

            1. Big_Andy_GAWA
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Away to Spurs fixture? Isn't great.

              1. Fulchester's New Centr…
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Get Alonso too?

          2. HuthTheMagicDragon
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Chilly will be back, maybe rotate

          3. Bushwhacker
            • 4 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Alonso on notice for sure

          4. citizenkane
            • 5 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            I'm getting rid. Too much uncertainty. He may start one or two, but be rotated for others. His poor performance against Wolves and Alonso's attacking potential on full display today I'm guessing is playing into Tuchel's thinking.

            Tuchel said that starting Alonso today was for tactical reasons and not because he was unhappy with Chilwell but I'm skeptical

        9. HuthTheMagicDragon
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Any forward for next few games....already have Bamford and Antonio.

          1. AC/DC AFC
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 8 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Wilson home to Palace?

            1. Bushwhacker
              • 4 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Because of one week of jam?

            2. HuthTheMagicDragon
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Yeah I’m thinking Wilson, DCL or Watkins

              Wilson has a good couple of home games, fancy DCL against Leeds defence and Villa are the best attacking team out of the three

        10. fpork
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 2 months ago

          Good moves?
          Vardy, Lookman->Watkins, Son

          1. Fulchester's New Centr…
            • 6 Years
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Isn't Vardy back soonish? See how good/bad Spurs look tonight first.

        11. Party time
            3 years, 2 months ago

            Cancelo, Salah, Gundo, Fernandes, Ings.

            Who to captain?

            Just brought in Cancelo and he is with the armband. Stick or twist??

            1. kennethrhcp
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              salah at home to brighton hard to pass up

              1. Party time
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  Yeah. True, Cancelo tempting because Burnley without their top strikers but you are right. I will switch the armband to Salah(C)

            2. kennethrhcp
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 13 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              5.1 for a defender.... Shaw worth a gamble?

              selling R.James

              1. Bushwhacker
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Not really. Targett?

                1. kennethrhcp
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  Martinez in goal

                  other 4 defenders are Dias, Stones, Dallas, Ciufal... might just gamble on Philips for 4m

              2. Fulchester's New Centr…
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Shaw has been ace the last few weeks for me except the 2 minute cameo against SHU.

                1. kennethrhcp
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 13 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  doing great thank feck

            3. Old Gregg
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Well that week ended better than it started.

              Mendy
              Cancelo-stones-Justin
              Salah-Bruno-Gündogan-Barnes
              Dcl-Wilson-Bam

              4m-Konza-Soucek-Mitchell

              Roll transfer?
              Any recommendations?

              1. HuthTheMagicDragon
                • 8 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Soucek to Son? dependent on your long term plans

                1. Old Gregg
                  • 7 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  Wildcarding in 25 I think.

                  Yes, will get son before WBA. Hoping I’ll get away with it next week Spuds V Chelsea

              2. Fulchester's New Centr…
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Roll that OG

            4. FPL ElasticO
              • 9 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              I had couple of low scoring weeks I was 50k by GW 19, Now I find myself in 120k a massive drop off... captain failures & transfer out Bamford has hurt me so much...
              So, should I look to bring back Bamford or keep as it is....This the team I have now.

              Martinez
              Stones/ Cancelo/ Robbo
              Salah(c)/ Son/ Bruno/ Gundo/ Soucek
              Antonio/ DCL

              Bench:: Johnstone/ Targett/ Coufal/ Brewster

              1. Bushwhacker
                • 4 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Boo hoo

              2. Fulchester's New Centr…
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                No point crying over spilt Bamford. Looks pretty good to me.

            5. Messiah Hazard
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 12 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Cancelo Dias Justin Holding and Mitchell

              Would you replace any one of them with Cresswell... Mitchell looks like the obvious choice but right now he’s only in the team as bench fodder... I have money in the bank though as I have cheap forwards and midfielders doing well...

              1. Fulchester's New Centr…
                • 6 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Yes, but hardly seems a priority.

                1. Messiah Hazard
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 12 Years
                  3 years, 2 months ago

                  He’s had an attacking return constantly, and rest of my team needs no changes unless Saka is out long term...

            6. Warby84
              • 8 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Come on Brighton

            7. DangerFC
              • 5 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Big fan of getting players in as they/their team hit form. Liverpool look to have their mojo back. I think going forward anyways. Saka and son to mane and salah.

              Yes or no

              Midfield currently saka, bruno, son, grealish, gundo

              1. The Wogmeister
                • 3 Years
                3 years, 2 months ago

                Salah for sure. Not sure on Mane.

            8. The Wogmeister
              • 3 Years
              3 years, 2 months ago

              Any ideas if Gundo will play this GW? Thinking of having him as captain.