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Fantasy managers are masochists – and here’s why that’s a good thing

Former Fantasy Premier League (FPL) champion Simon March argues that feeling a bit of pain may not be a bad thing in our quest for a lofty overall rank.


Few would be surprised were they to discover that Fantasy Premier League is a game that attracts a community more prone than normal to masochism. No many FPL managers would last very long if they didn’t have at least an ambivalent relationship with pain and suffering. However, this tendency is not limited to FPL managers and is, in fact, present in all of us to some extent. It can also play a key role in determining which of us experiences success in life, and which of us don’t.

The significance of this propensity towards inviting pain has been seen to vary from person to person and, in the context of FPL, it may not only help explain some of the differences in playing style and risk preferences from manager to manager but, also, why we sometimes self-sabotage in our FPL decision-making. These are some questions this article will consider.

Hedonic Reversal

‘Hedonic Reversal’ is the state in which we, as humans, derive pleasure in things that cause us pain or discomfort. All of us experience this to an extent, it’s a big part of why we enjoy things like rollercoasters, horror movies or spicy food.

Hedonic reversal manifests itself biologically via the release of endorphins into the bloodstream as a response to us experiencing pain. Endorphins are, among other things, the body’s naturally occurring anaesthetic and they function in a similar fashion to opioids, both in their ability to numb pain and their tendency to create a sense of euphoria in those experiencing their release.

Runners and gym-goers might recognise this effect as the ‘runner’s high’ or a ‘pump’ respectively, and it is essentially the same mechanism. The evolutionary purpose for hedonic reversal is not entirely clear, some believe it occurs as a means of balancing out our response to emotional or physical pain, others believe it exists to reward and incentivise risk-taking, something which has helped us, overall, to advance as a species. The bottom line, however, is that a period of physical or emotional pain is likely to trigger a release of happy hormones to help cheer you up, basically.

Mavericks and Dullards

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FPL managers are known to differ greatly in their approaches to taking risks. We often colloquially refer to risk-takers as ‘Mavericks’ and risk-averse managers as ‘Dullards’. While it is true that risk preferences are the result of many factors, hedonic reversal could be a significant element of the more maverick playing style.

Everybody knows how good a feeling it is to take a risk and for it to pay off. We also know how bad it feels to take a risk and for it to backfire. But those who have experienced such backfires a few times might come to learn that, when things go wrong, it might not feel as bad as you expect. In fact, the worse it gets, the better it is likely to feel on a body chemistry level.

With this in mind, it’s not unreasonable to believe that some managers might come to fear failure less than others do. They might even get to a point, however subconsciously, where they even seek it. Win or lose, they eventually get the same positive feeling physically, so why not take risks? 

This disposition towards seeking pain could explain a lot (Spurs fans, for example) but the key insight from an FPL perspective might be that, if these quasi-masochistic tendencies manifest themselves more significantly in some people than others, they may have also a dramatic effect on the way those individuals play FPL. The natural question, therefore, is whether this is a good or a bad thing.

While it’s true that more risk does not necessarily equal more points in FPL (indeed, it could easily equal the opposite) you cannot get a really, really good rank without taking at least some chances. That could mean anything from some risky transfers to some maverick captaincy decisions. How many risks are sensible to take will always be something context-dependent, but it stands to reason that a manager who is unafraid to take an educated punt possesses a potentially valuable characteristic if they are looking for an elite-level rank or if they dream of winning FPL. As the aphorism goes; you may find plenty of risk-averse millionaires but you will find very few risk-averse billionaires. 

Of course, you will also find plenty of risk-taking people who are flat-broke so moderation is key. Allowing your FPL decisions to be driven by a subconscious desire to feel pain is likely to leave your arrows as red as that room in Fifty Shades of Grey. It’s good to take some risks but they have to be considered ones.

However, if you are a manager who is very risk-averse, perhaps to the point of detriment, experiencing a bit of the pain of failure might actually be good for you. In fact, it may be exactly what you need to remove the fear of taking risks and condition your subconscious to accept them more easily. As many have observed, our best FPL seasons seem to disproportionately follow our worst ones and so perhaps ‘learning to take a fall’ represents a key rite of passage in getting us there.


Why does good FPL form end and what can we do about it?

Elsewhere in Double Gameweek 32

Jamie Vardy (£10.1m) secured a double-digit haul as Leicester saw off West Bromwich Albion by a 3-0 scoreline.

After returning in just one match between Gameweeks 26 and 31, the Foxes’ forward notched a goal and assist against rather pedestrian opposition.

Crystal Palace are Vardy’s next opponents, whose recent defensive form suggest another big haul could await him in Blank Gameweek 33, hence why we have chosen him for the Scout Picks.

Jonny Evans (£5.5m) came away with a double-digit score of his own as he kept a clean sheet and found the net in the first half.

Wesley Fofana (£5.0m) managed to capitalise on the shut-out early as Marc Albrighton (£5.2m) replaced him just after the hour-mark.

Meanwhile, Ricardo Pereira (£5.9m) stayed on the bench as an unused substitute, with suggestions that he will come back into the team against Crystal Palace.

“I’m very conscious that Ricardo is coming back from a long-term injury and I always felt between when he came back and the end of the season we’re just getting him some minutes. I don’t think he’s ready to play three games in a week, especially having played on Sunday.” – Brendan Rodgers

Kelechi Iheanacho (£6.1m) continued his scoring form, adding an eight goal in his last six Premier League matches.

However, his burgeoning ownership might have hoped for more returns as he missed a number of big chances to walk away with a hat-trick.

His persistence in front of goal, combined with a Blank Gameweek 33 meeting with Crystal Palace, has also earned Iheanacho a place in the Scout Picks…

Provisional bonus points

  • 3 – Jonny Evans
  • 2 – Timothy Castagne
  • 1 – Jamie Vardy
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  1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Best option here folks if we get news in press conference that Jota is out???
    A- Jota to Maddison(keep Kane)
    Or
    B- Kane to Vardy and Captain(Keep Jota)

    Cheers!!!

    1. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      What's wrong with Jota

      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Wasn’t pictured at training today mate, that’s all the news I’ve heard, just thinking of ideas if Klopp mentions something in press conference why he was missing or if there’s an injury or something that all

        1. DA Minnion (Former great)
          • 11 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          Cheers .

    2. pablo discobar
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Maddison or Greenwood?

      1. 1912 F.A Cup Winners
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Already done Son to Greenwood this week mate!!! Should have put that maybe haha

  2. Can’t beat em so&hell…
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    I’ve only got one player with a fixture on the bench (Amartey) who is dropped. Jota in the team.

    Worth spending my FT? I can only afford Struijk who may not play either....

  3. Cheeto__Bandito
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    So Kane to Vardy an obvious move right? 4 fixtures vs 2

    1. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      How Kane only 2?

      1. Cheeto__Bandito
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        in the next 3 Kane has 2 (no double)

    2. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Vardy doesn’t have that many more? Only 1, maybe just sooner.

    3. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Leicester double not confirmed yet imo.

    4. FourLokoLeipzig
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Looking that way

  4. Oliver Tockman
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Can anyone explain the possibilities of doubles and blanks in GWs 35-36 or point me in the direction of a solid explanation? Cheers!

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Nornal answer is to ask to check Ben Crellin on twitter, but I doubt it helps. I am wondering what to do with my WC and when to use it.

    2. The Polymath
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      70% Chance 8 teams double in GW 35 including 4 who blank in GW 36 because of the FA Cup

      GW37 and GW38 will be single game weeks allowing all teams to play at Home in front of a cloud.

      1. The Polymath
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        In front of a crowd 😀

      2. Baps hunter
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 6 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        How does dgw rule out audience ?

      3. Pariße
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Only two blank because of the FA Cup. Leicester and Chelsea that were supposed to play each other on gw 37 anyway. Chelsea has midweek games from CL for the next 2, then a midweek PL game, meaning that their game vs Leicester can only be played just before the final.

      4. Ruth_NZ
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Can you explain how this 70% chance is calculated?

        Thought not. 😆

        1. The Polymath
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 8 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          Using a Quantum Computer:-D

          Not really, just quoted Crellin

    3. UnsuitableName
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      If you search Ben Crellin, you'll find his Twitter and an infographic showing the potential doubles and blanks. It depends on if the gameweek timelines are moved by the PL. Some teams are guaranteed a double, namely Crystal Palace, Villa, Everton and Southampton, because they have an as yet unscheduled fixture to complete before the end of the season. Hope this helps!

  5. Tmel
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    I currently have 10 players (or 9 if Raphina isn't fit). Best move?

    a) White > Castagne
    b) White & Raphina > Fofana & Greenwood (-4)

  6. Scout15
    • 6 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    A) Dunk/Veltman
    B) Shaw

    Who'd you pick?

    1. Cheeto__Bandito
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      A

  7. Can’t beat em so&hell…
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Close. B probs

  8. The Polymath
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Night crew.

    My team:for Blank GW 33 (12 Players)

    Mendy, Forster
    TAA, Rudiger, Shaw, Holding, Coady
    Salah, Jota, Fernandes, Son, Lingard
    Kane, Nacho, Watkins

    Have 2 Free Transfers, should I burn it?

    1. DA Minnion (Former great)
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Mendy out for someone who will play.

    2. Lukakuna
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Mendy and Jota are doubts no?

    3. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Forster to Sanchez.

      1. Saka Rice
        • 9 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Why not Mendy?

        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          He might still play in GW33 but Forster won't. This keeper rotation is a trend I hope that stops being cool very soon 🙁

    4. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      No point to burn when you can get Vardy and get Kane back for free.

      1. The Polymath
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Good point Baps

  9. Lukakuna
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Is it worth burning a transfer on selling Mendy this week? Would have to be for Leno or Pickford

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I expect him to start tbh. Kepa made an error after which only woodwork and luck saved him. Tuchel isn't blind, for a coach outcome shouldn't matter.

  10. _Ninja_
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Any thoughts what to do with 2FTs here? 0.1m (I think Mendy will start v West Ham)

    Mendy
    Shaw TAA Coady Holding
    Salah Jota Bruno Lingard
    Bamford Nacho

    Forster Rudiger Kane Son

    1. Saka Rice
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Kane to Vardy or Mendy to Leeds gk

    2. Avery
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 4 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Mendy will start for sure

  11. Now I'm Panicking
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Having 2nd thoughts about Fofana with a lot of games coming up and 3 weeks of Ramadan still left - would you pay the extra 0.5 for Johnny "made of glass" Evans?

    1. Albrightondknight
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Castagne looked great apart from the assist. But if he is going to be a out and out central defender it takes the appeal away.

    2. Bennerman
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Hang on, how is Jonny made of glass? He's hardly ever had long periods of injury, in a long Prem career. Am I missing something here?

      1. Bennerman
        • 5 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Season before this, he played every single Prem game, which is among the rarified few.

    3. Ibralicious
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Surely Fofana is not fasting while playing? Shouldn't affect his selection IMO

    4. John Nerdelbaum
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 days ago

      You mean Karen 😉

    5. John Nerdelbaum
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 7 days ago

      Take it you can't get Castagne?

  12. Albrightondknight
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    I wa on A until the DCL is fit news now thinking B which gets 11 rather than 10 out. Either option is a hit.
    Any opinions ?

    A. DCL and Gundogan
    To Nacho and Maddison
    B. Dias and Gundogan
    To Veltman and Maddison

    1. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Naco is important to have, so A imo

      1. Albrightondknight
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Cheers

  13. EWH2020
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Start one:

    A) Targett (have Martinez so would be double up)
    B) Dallas
    C) Bamford

    1. _Ninja_
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      C

    2. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      yup Bamford

  14. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Son to siggy or rash?

    1. UnsuitableName
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Neither imo

      1. Letsgo!
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        But i dont have any subs to be in if alonso not playing which is why i need to sacrifice son for a week

        1. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          Alonso out I'd say

          1. Letsgo!
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 days ago

            Thats why.

            1. Letsgo!
              • 7 Years
              3 years, 8 days ago

              Guess i will jus go for rash although siggy is really a punt

        2. UnsuitableName
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          I don't rate Siggy or Rashford from a fantasy perspective currently. I know they hauled last week but neither have an excellent fixture this week. If it's a one week thing with Son straight back for SHU I'd go for a Brighton mid personally, or take a chance on Madison. I think Son will outscore Sig and Rash for their 2 upcoming games against Sheffield.

          1. Letsgo!
            • 7 Years
            3 years, 8 days ago

            Brighton, so probably trossard?

    2. Pariße
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Rashford

    3. Bob.
      • 14 Years
      3 years, 7 days ago

      Would nearly prefer greenwood over Rashford

  15. CheesyZoot
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Captain pick?

    A) Bruno

    B) Vardy

    C) Nacho

    1. La Roja
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      B

    2. the dom 1
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I’m actually toying with C lol

  16. mr messi
    • 13 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Son to Greenwood?

    1. jaguar shark
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 10 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Keep Son

  17. jaguar shark
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 10 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Errrrrrr. Bruno + Davis to Vardy + Harrison... do I have the nerve?!

  18. indy13
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Hey there. I need to choose between the following moves but can't decide:
    front 8 are Lingard, Bruno, Mount, Son, Raphinha, Kane, Jesus, Iheanacho. 1 FT and 1.6m itb. (so have will have Son, Kane and Jesus on bench)

    a) Bruno and Son > Salah (c) and Jota (-4)
    b) Digne and Son > Ayling and Salah (c) (-4)
    c) Jesus and Son > Vardy and Jota (-4)
    d) Bruno > Salah (c)
    e) Jesus > Vardy
    f) Raphinha > Jota

    heart probably would go c) but no Salah so mind says a)

    1. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      with random rumors about Jota i would be scared to bring him in.
      E looks pretty good to me.

    2. JBG
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      E

    3. UnsuitableName
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      E

  19. Iceball
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Mendy
    Alonso Veltman Digne
    Salah(C) Jota Bruno(V) Lingard Rapinha
    Nacho Bamford
    Meslier Coufal Kane Dias
    Can I survive with this?
    Since I came all this way I might as well wait until more known about DGW and WC34/35

  20. Nightcrawler
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Hmmm think i might not captain Salah becuase of Ramadan

    1. Stupendous
      • 11 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Vardy party!

    2. cravencottage
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 12 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I agree

    3. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Good idea

    4. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      He could still feast

    5. Danno - Emre Canada
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Early KO, should be fine...

  21. RogDog_jimmy
    • 3 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Mendy
    Alonso, Fofana, Rudiger, TAA, Holding
    Salah, Jota, Bruno, Son*, Lingard
    Kane*, Iheanahco, Vydra

    I can do (exactly)
    Son + Vydra > Vardy + Smith-Rowe (-4)

    Is that crazy?

  22. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Is rash playing this week?

  23. FPL Alaska
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Which defender to bring in this week and hold for the rest of the season?

    A) Dallas
    B) Saiss/Cody
    C) Dunk/Veltman
    D) Coleman
    E) Holding

    1. Dammit_182
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      I just brought Keane in - I like Everton fixtures and they have a double. Though Leeds fixtures are great and Dallas is king.

  24. OverTinker
    • 5 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Son + Cancelo + Laca to Salah + Vardy + Philips for -8

    Yes or No?

    1. OverTinker
      • 5 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Or just do Laca to Vardy for free and miss out on Salah? He has United next too

      1. RogDog_jimmy
        • 3 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Laca > Vardy for free sounds like a good start.
        Cancelo & Son > Salah & Phillips doesn't seem that good to me.

        1. OverTinker
          • 5 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          But Salah has Newcastle!! Most might be captaining him

      2. FPL_Crisis
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Would you captain Vardy as a non Salah owner?
        Looking at Laca to Vardy too but short of funds. Surely Mendy starts...?

  25. cravencottage
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 12 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    What are the chances of Mendy starting this weekend? Is Kepa now a real threat?

    1. Letsgo!
      • 7 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      To me no threat at all. Mendy will start

  26. Ibralicious
    • 9 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Best sub-5.1 defender to transfer in this week?

    A) Fofana
    B) Saïss
    C) Coady

    Cheers!

    1. Bobby Digital
      • 6 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      B

  27. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Is this team and bench order gtg?

    Martinez
    TAA Fofana Alonso
    Salah Bruno Lingard Greenwood
    Vardy (c) Iheanacho Vydra

    Forster* Rüdiger Holding Son

    1. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Vydra over Rudi seems odd - think the cs is more likely than a goal against man u.

      1. dunas_dog
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Fair point- thanks. Don’t expect Alonso to start so will put Holding ahead of Vydra on bench

        1. RogDog_jimmy
          • 3 Years
          3 years, 8 days ago

          i have the exact back 5!
          Currently all playing with Kane, Son & Vydra on the bench.
          Likely to do Son > Greenwood and then do Fofana first bench...or Holding. Vydra second bench.

  28. tinear
    • 4 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Laca, Cancelo, Alonso to Watkins, Castagne, Saiss/Coady for -8 worth it?

    1. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      not for me. that's a big hit.

      1. tinear
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Kane, Philips, Gundo on bench. Could go for -4 for either of the above but going to play with 10 men.

    2. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      -4 this week max
      Maybe Laca and Cancelo to Watkins and wolves defender

      1. tinear
        • 4 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Cheers

  29. Letsgo!
    • 7 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Will u -4 for trossard or dunk ?

    1. dunas_dog
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 8 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Depends who goes

      1. Letsgo!
        • 7 Years
        3 years, 8 days ago

        Cresswell for dunk or son to trossard?

  30. dunas_dog
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    3 years, 8 days ago

    Kane to Vardy and reverse next week worth -4 in total?

    1. FPL_Crisis
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 13 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Not for me. Don’t even know Kane will be fit for 34
      I’m benching him and trying to move Laca to Vardy with 2FT

    2. Ibralicious
      • 9 Years
      3 years, 8 days ago

      Usually, the way these go is that there will be a much more pressing issue next week preventing you from doing Vardy -> Kane and Kane will haul. So move with caution IMO :/