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Torres benched for Chelsea v City as much-captained Ronaldo leads United attack

We have the unusual situation of two Premier League matches kicking off simultaneously in the Saturday lunchtime slot.

Chelsea v Manchester City is a mouth-watering prospect at Stamford Bridge, while there is plenty of Fantasy Premier League (FPL) interest at Old Trafford as Manchester United host Aston Villa.

Cristiano Ronaldo is the chief attraction from an FPL perspective, having been captained by almost two-thirds of the top 10,000 Fantasy managers in Gameweek 6.

Above: Ownership/effective ownership stats for Gameweek 6, via LiveFPL

Ronaldo is part of an unchanged Manchester United side from the win at West Ham United last Sunday.

Edinson Cavani makes the bench after recovering from injury.

Aston Villa’s one starting XI change is enforced, with Axel Tuanzebe, who is on loan from the Red Devils, ineligible to face his parent club. Kortney Hause makes his first Premier League start of the season as Dean Smith sticks with a 3-5-2.

In west London, Thomas Tuchel makes four changes to the Chelsea team that beat Tottenham Hotspur 3-0 in their last league outing.

Edouard Mendy returns in goal after recovering from a hip problem, while Reece James, N’Golo Kante and Timo Werner are all recalled.

Kepa Arrizabalaga, Thiago Silva and Kai Havertz drop to the bench, while Mason Mount misses out through injury.

“Thiago [Silva] had some issues yesterday in training, otherwise he would have started.” – Thomas Tuchel

Tuchel has stuck with the same 3-5-2 system he used in the second half against Spurs, with Werner assuming Havertz’s role alongside Romelu Lukaku.

Pep Guardiola has also made four changes to the side that drew 0-0 with Southampton in Gameweek 5.

Kevin De Bruyne and Phil Foden both make their first league starts of the season, while Rodri and Aymeric Laporte have recovered from injury to also feature.

Nathan Ake, Raheem Sterling and Fernandinho are among the substitutes, with the injured Ilkay Gundogan missing out entirely.

GAMEWEEK 6 LINE-UPS

Chelsea XI: Mendy, James, Christensen, Rudiger, Azpilicueta, Jorginho, Kovacic, Alonso, Kante, Werner, Lukaku

Subs: Arrizabalaga, Silva, Loftus-Cheek, Chalobah, Saul, Hudson-Odoi, Chilwell, Ziyech, Havertz

Man City XI: Ederson, Walker, Ruben Dias, Laporte, Cancelo, De Bruyne, Rodri, Bernardo Silva, Foden, Gabriel Jesus, Grealish

Subs: Steffen, Stones, Ake, Sterling, Torres, Fernandinho, Mahrez, Palmer, Lavia


Man Utd XI: De Gea, Wan Bissaka, Varane, Maguire, Shaw, McTominay, Fred, Greenwood, Bruno Fernandes, Pogba, Ronaldo.

Subs: Lindelof, Martial, Lingard, Dalot, Cavani, Heaton, Sancho, Matic, Van de Beek.

Aston Villa: Martinez, Cash, Konsa, Hause, Mings, Targett, Jacob Ramsey, Douglas Luiz, McGinn, Ings, Watkins.

Subs: Buendia, Steer, Traore, Young, Nakamba, El Ghazi, Carney Chukwuemeka, Archer, Bogarde.

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  1. have you seen cyan
    • 4 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    picking on Shaw because of his weight istn cool tbh, you wouldnt do that in real life would you?

    1. Philosopher's Stones
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Yeah, rather pick on him for being a s**t FPL asset

      1. have you seen cyan
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        that is perfectly fine lol

    2. Nate(U)dog(ie)
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      "Bu...bu...bu my fantasy points!"

    3. Pompel
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      ^this
      99.9% on here wouldn't outrun him in real life.

      1. SADIO SANÉ
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Most Prem players couldn’t either, the guy is a beast

        1. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
          • 14 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          He's not very fast mate. I am sure many on here can outrun him.

          1. Thomas Magnum
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            I’d take Patrick Bateman ahead of him in a 100m sprint

    4. Pumpkinhead - I'm ITK …
      • 14 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Awwww have you come to protect him...or is it the upvotes ? 😉

      1. Walter White (WW)
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        😆

  2. Atimis
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Jesus please just tell me that I can take a hit and remove both Shaw and Ayling before next week…

  3. kUwe Inc.
    • 12 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    James replacement;
    A) Alonso
    B) Rudiger

    1. GreennRed
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      B

    2. Shearer & Sutton
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 9 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      B

    3. DaisyDaisyDaisyDaisy
      • 10 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Dias

    4. kUwe Inc.
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Figure out also have just enough fund for Cancelo

  4. R.C
    • 6 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Rodri goal and Kante goal will be lovely.

    United game 0-0

  5. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 3 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Making a mental note to myself to never bring Shaw back in for the rest of the season once I sell him.

    1. Tcheco
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Why?

      1. Nanoelektronicar
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        What will change that makes him better asset than he is now (disregarding the injury) ?

    2. Atimis
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      100%

    3. Baps hunter
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 6 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      You should also bookmark your comment, just in case.

    4. Joey Jo-Jo Junior Shabadoo
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Card magnet.
      Not as many BAPs as you would expect.
      Not as many attacking returns as you would expect.
      Utd defence is bang average.
      Order chips AND fries with his burger.

      Plus he's just hard to root for, the most cynical player in the league imo.

  6. AndrewTavey
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 8 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    No idea how Bruno hasn't got anything yet. Could easily have a monster haul in the first half already

    1. Zalk
      • 12 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      My captain, feels unlucky not to have anything.

    2. Big boy Bowen
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Because I capped him, clearly

  7. jackruet
    • 2 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Utd really lacks creativity and Chelsea is way too defensive

  8. Not again Shirley
    • 7 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Shaw owner. Ronnie captain and Cancelo last on bench. Can this GW get any worse. Sure it can after Livra will get double digit later (first on bench).

    1. Guru Mediation
      • 8 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Chill, it's very early and you're hardly in the minority

    2. RogDog_jimmy
      • 3 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Why the heck would you put Cancelo third on the bench?

      1. Not again Shirley
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        TAA, Shaw and Digne other defenders so thought logical he was most likely to concede against CHE away. Will play him every other week though, just not this one.

    3. Neevesy
      • 7 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Sorry, Cancelo 3rd on bench?

      1. Philosopher's Stones
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Whatever x 100

    4. Fish up a tree
      • 2 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      You got a stronger bench than City!

  9. Stupendous
    • 11 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    How about this? (Need the third move to do the first two. .1 short)

    James, Semedo and Gray
    To
    Rudiger, Christensen and Odegaard for -4?

    1. popey
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 5 Years
      2 years, 6 months ago

      Semedo has Newcastle at home next week so wait a week on that its not worth the hit

  10. FPL price manipulators are …
    • 10 Years
    2 years, 6 months ago

    Best league in the world

    1. @persecuted_by_mods
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Like watching prime Barca and Madrid

        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          If only Barca or Madrid could defend.

          1. @persecuted_by_mods
              2 years, 6 months ago

              I think the prime teams were okay at that

              1. GreennRed
                • 12 Years
                2 years, 6 months ago

                In a way. They didn't need to defend like City or Chelsea today because they rarely have the ball away. Pre-Dias City were similar, now they have proper defenders.

      • Ajax Hamsterdam
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        pogba and jota to raphinha (if fit of course) and son for a hit? would you consider it? thanks

      • Steve The Spud
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 4 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Oh f*** off then shaw

        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          someone in a bad mood 🙂

        2. Sun Jihai
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          CS points still to be added

      • Tcheco
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        What happened to James?

        1. F4L
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          rolled his ankle.

      • Pompel
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Still worrh it to take a -8 for Lukaku-Ronaldo double-up? Or just go with one of them and bolster defense?

        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          just one imo

          1. Pompel
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            But which one then? Lukaku for the fixtures and better team, or Ronaldo with worse fixtures but better player?

        2. Karhumies
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Just one and more into defense. Salah vs KDB will be similar, can't have both.

          1. Pompel
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            Salah stays as for noe

      • Paqueta Rice
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Plan was Dcl and Jota to Lukaku and Gallagher this week coming. Now add in Shaw for Rudiger for a further hit I think

      • jackruet
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        What happens to shaw and James?

        1. El Presidente
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          They go home and rest I suppose.

      • Nate(U)dog(ie)
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Have funds to do James to Cancelo (have Rudiger), should I go for it or hold off in case his injury isn't bad even with the rotation risk?

        1. ANGRY PERSON
          • 3 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Wait for injury update

      • Parsnips
        • 3 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Does someone sub on for Shaw then as he got 0?

        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          nope

        2. Shane86
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Lol

        3. Guru Mediation
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Good luck with that

        4. THE SHEEP HUNTERS
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Mr Potato

      • Make United Great Again
        • 11 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Goodbye Mr Shaw. Hello Alonso

        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          what about chilwell? dont think he will come into the frame soon ?

        2. Qaiss
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          And then Alonso plays against Juventus and Chilwell starts Southampton

        3. Pipermaru
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Thank god I've made it before GW1 🙂

        4. Pompel
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          0.1 off direct swap 🙁

      • gooberman
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 12 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Wow, a single shot from Chelsea in the entire first half and 33% possession. Pathetic.

        1. GreennRed
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Solid City. But not pretty City.

        2. Qaiss
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          European champions with all the attacking talent they have, are afraid to play football

          1. Karhumies
            • 11 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            Mount and Pulisic missing, Ziyech not yet back to full match fitness to start such a high intensity game though. Werner + Lukaku combo not really finding each other yet. We'll see if Havertz or Ziyech gets subbed in during second half, could really boost the creativity to be less straightforward counterattack style football.

        3. Jimmers
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          That's Tuchalball for you

        4. Karhumies
          • 11 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Very solid defending though. They've tried to counterattack quickly multiple times which seems to be their strategy, but Man City mids have made intentional fouls to break up play deep in Chelsea's half to prevent it whenever City has lost the ball. Without the intentional fouls, they could have got 2-3 breakaways into the box already.

        5. Supersonic Marv'
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          If they win one 1-0 I'm sure they won't care.

        6. El Presidente
          • 4 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          It's ridiculous really

      • Thomas Magnum
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Should’ve just aired the music concert instead, it probably would’ve had more action

      • AC/DC AFC
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Well I hope The Courteeners gig at the cricket ground lives up to the billing!!

      • Holmes
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Sarr captaincy would have probably been more exciting this!

        1. Hy liverpool
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          "Would have" and "could have" are easy now

          1. Holmes
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            I blame Bamford injury! 😀

        2. SADIO SANÉ
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          If I wasn’t so stubborn I’d have done it - Ronaldo (c) was the plan when I got him but wasn’t really feeling it since - United have been pretty terrible this season

          1. Holmes
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            Yeah, never felt like getting Ronaldo but Bamford injury forced my hand. Hopefully he gets atleast one attacking return.

      • Gizzachance
        • 9 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Shaw to
        A alonso
        B rudiger

        1. Baps hunter
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          B

          1. Gizzachance
            • 9 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            Cheers
            Shaw will no doubt drop, rudiger 5.6 will go up
            Have 5.8 with shaw out

      • SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
        • 7 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        If Cash (1st sub) gets a 9 pointer I’ll spew

        1. Ajax Hamsterdam
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          get the bucket ready!

          1. SAKA AND EMILE SMITH ROWE
            • 7 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            Loved his 15 pointer last week, but can’t have those sorts points on the bench!

      • Hy liverpool
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Who you have first on bench for shaw?
        Ayling for me.

        1. Alisson WondHaaland
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          James

        2. Shane86
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          You're getting zero for Shaw bro

          1. Hy liverpool
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            No way

        3. Dthinger
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 7 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          He won’t sub out of your team because he played

          1. Hy liverpool
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            Boooooo

      • STONEROSES
        • 10 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Is it possible to just change your password on the FPL website, rather than reset it and be sent a temp password which then needs to be changed?

        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 12 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Yes

          1. STONEROSES
            • 10 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            ARFF!

      • dshv
        • 6 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Shaw to

        1. Azpi
        2. Alonso
        3. Rudiger

        1. Sandy Ravage
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          2

      • jackruet
        • 2 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Why was shaw subbed out?

        1. dshv
          • 6 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Because he is worst defender in my team

        2. STONEROSES
          • 10 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          Groin strain or similar

      • Sandy Ravage
        • 8 Years
        2 years, 6 months ago

        Best 4.5 MID:
        A - Gilmour
        B - Douglas Luiz
        C - Sissoko

        1. Nanoelektronicar
          • 9 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          B, C, A in that order

        2. popey
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 5 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          prefer Ramsey from Villa tbh

          1. Sandy Ravage
            • 8 Years
            2 years, 6 months ago

            Good shout. He's getting regular starts

        3. Sandy Ravage
          • 8 Years
          2 years, 6 months ago

          B