Euro 2012

Quarter Finals – Day Two – Dugout Discussion

22 June 2012 1094 comments
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The second quarter-final of EURO 2012 is less than an hour away, with Germany and Greece doing battle for the right to clinch a place in the last four alongside Portugal. As always, we’ve rolled out the Dugout Discussion ahead of this evening’s 7.45pm kick-off.

The team news is now in and, for many Fantasy managers, it looks like it’s going to be a frustrating night…

Joachim Low makes four changes to the side that saw off Denmark in Germany’s final group game. Jerome Boateng returns at right-back after serving a one-match suspension, with Lars Bender dropping back to the bench. Up front, however, today’s earlier rumours have proven to be true – Marco Reus, Andreas Schurrle and Miroslav Klose are all handed roles in the first XI, with Thomas Muller, Lukas Podolski and Mario Gomez dropping to the bench.

Fernando Santos makes a couple of alterations to the Greece side that stunned Russia last time out. Skipper Giorgos Karagounis is suspended and is replaced in midfield by Grigorios Makos, while up front Theofanis Gekas makes way for Sotiris Ninis.

Germany Starting XI: Neuer; Boateng, Hummels, Badstuber, Lahm; Khedira, Schweinsteiger; Reus, Ozil, Schurrle – Klose

Greece Starting XI: Sifakis; Torosidis, Papasthopoulos, Papadopoulos, Tzavellas; Makos, Katsouranis, Maniatis; Ninis, Samaras, Salpingidis

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  1. Glasner Ball
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Sticking with Capt Ronaldo i think

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    1. leo_messi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I don't what about tomorrow but today its a very good move..believe me

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  2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
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    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Well, Earwig O ... 🙂

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  3. Dan - We want our Trophy ba…
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Lets all pray Klose gets injured in warm up. clasps hands together.

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    1. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Absolutely not! I actually like Klose. Has much better overall ability than Gomez.

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      1. Dan - We want our Trophy ba…
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        FF wise yes.

        I wouldn't want him to get seriously injured, just a slight strain or something.

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  4. Pratik
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    @EVS - I have made my decision simple. If you can resist, so can I. But if you switch, I switch. Just let me know before deadline.

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Lol, ok man.

      I'm sticking at mo, as it suits cash ml as they have ronnie cap and no ozil so if he performs I gain anyway but not as much (but I don't lose out of he don't)

      Sticking for now, for now....

      I'll keep you posted...

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      1. Pratik
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        If Forca comes online, I am pretty sure he will post the reasons for Ozil again, and then I will definitely switch.

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        1. Evs
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Yes he will.

          Ha, lets see but I am sticking. If ozil scores still be good for me 😉

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        2. BONZ
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Ozil = RBs, Clean Sheet, Goals & Ass = POTENTIAL

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      2. BONZ
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        stick you kneck out you tight biatch only lose 4pts if he does nothing but he is due a goal and may set up a few for my bastian!!

        Too tight in league to rest on laurels IMO.......

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        1. Evs
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          • 16 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          You would say that as your a trying to knock my off my perch you cheeky Kuntz 😛

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  5. Gigging Order
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    REPOST FOR POTENTIAL HUMMEL CAPTAINERS:

    A word about Hummels as captaincy.

    His goal average for Dortmund is 1 in 8.6 games

    Pirlo for Italy is 1 in 8.5

    Obviously Pirlo has a higher assist potential but throw in possible RB and CS and he seems a more than worthy choice.

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    1. Davido989
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Pirlo plays on Sunday, Hummels plays today.

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      1. King Nemanja
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I think he was just comparing his gs ratio to Pirlo's

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      2. Chaotic
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        what has that got to with anything?

        Nice stats GO, makes me feel a little better.

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    2. leo_messi
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I do not see any logic here...Hummels (C) today and if he fails then Pirlo...

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    3. Manani
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      what's the ratio for torres?? 🙂

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  6. PauleyBoy
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Just got in, and Gomez aint even bloody starting!!! After spending all that cash on him! Ya'll still keeping him as captain or switching to a defender?

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    1. King Nemanja
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      switching

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    2. User
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Keeping CR - I expect all the games to be tight and since I had a 2 point captain last GW I don't want it to happen again. Don't have much faith in Hummels, Iniesta and Gerrard. 😛

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  7. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    chasing points so I'm giving the armband to Ozil over Ronaldo..... haway son!

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      +1

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      1. john_t
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +2

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  8. asyrafdanial
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Please Boateng (c) ! Do something tonight !

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    1. Silly Sausage
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      13 years, 5 months ago

      Red card boom!

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      1. asyrafdanial
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        lol

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        1. Silly Sausage
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          It's possible he gets forward and puts in a cross for Gomez, oh wait...

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          1. asyrafdanial
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            haha ! nope for Gomez . possible to score too imo~~ just hope

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            1. Silly Sausage
              • 13 Years
              13 years, 5 months ago

              Naa Hummels header 😉

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              1. asyrafdanial
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 5 months ago

                ok..u win ",

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  9. No Pirlo No Party
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    13 years, 5 months ago

    Worth putting Reus in for tonight? (Sky Sports Game) Not saw him play much. A nice replacement for Pila.

    Have 10 transfers for the knockout stages. Already have 4 Germans though.

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    1. Silly Sausage
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Likely to play against Engerland or Italy?

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      1. No Pirlo No Party
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        This is my thought. He's pretty cheap (4.8). Tbh though I think it will be hard to field 11 in the Semis/Final.

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        1. Silly Sausage
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I was just looking at that, could only field 10 starters with a front line of CR7 Gomez and Silva without downgrading MID + DEF not sure what to do...

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          1. No Pirlo No Party
            • 16 Years
            13 years, 5 months ago

            Hmmm, I might just stop being greedy and only do CR7 to Klose. Then I have 9 transfers for the Semis and Final. That way I have the transfers to make a good numbers of changes if downgrading is needed.

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    2. Jonah Takalua
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      i have

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  10. BONZ
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Really cannot believe it - absolutely gutted 🙠the teams announced & to see it was painful after the WC team was actioned for the QFs and to see the guts ripped out!!

    Really what the feck is the Manager thinking????

    Leaving out Fortounis could really hamper me 😉

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    1. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Hehe 😀

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  11. 1justlookin
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Will people stop suggesting German defenders as Captains, your starting to doubt me choosing Ozil!!!
    🙂

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    1. Evs
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      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Their only saying that as they don't have ozil to give it too 🙂

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      1. 1justlookin
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Coooooool

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      2. MourinhoJunior
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1

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    2. The Milkman
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'd rather 7 points than 5. Hummels FTW!

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  12. megatronaldinho
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    unless ure playing in a cash league, a tournie you rilly wanna win for bragging rights or have a feasible chance of winning outright then i have no idea why anyone wud stick with ronaldo. take a risk, have fun and live a little 🙂

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  13. Back on the horse
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    oh great moved the armband off Ronaldo and my new captain isn't even playing!!

    damn you Fortounis!

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  14. Gigging Order
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    One last stat for Hummels, he only received one yellow card for Dortmund last season (think this is just a league stat though)

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Cue red card

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      1. Gigging Order
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        🙂

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    2. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Bascially you're banking on a goal (unlikely) or recovered balls (more likely but still not much). I can't be bothered with the hassle. Sticking.

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      1. Gigging Order
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Just as unlikely as Pirlo, who many people consider a clear captaincy candidate.

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        1. Sess!
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Exactly, I don't want to be left with gerrard or pirlo as I don't massively fancy either. If hummels scores I'll eat my words but I can live with it if he gets 1/2 RB points.

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    3. THE BAD
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      he's due lol

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  15. Portsmouth Bubblejet
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Did anyone take up Urindanger on his €100 bet that Gomez would start? Could be costly.

    http://www.fantasyfootballscout.co.uk/2012/06/22/scout-notes-quarter-finals-day-one/comment-page-3/#comment-3356308

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    1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Sadly not. 😀

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    2. Pratik
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Blindingly accurate as usual!!!

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  16. leo_messi
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    My only dilemma...If I'm not chasing points is there any good reason to not stick with CR7(C)???

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    1. Lordjim
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      If you are so far behind, roll the dice. What have you to lose...

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      1. leo_messi
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        thanks

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    2. THE BAD
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      have fun?

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    3. King Nemanja
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      If you want the no 1 spot, risks must be taken!!

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  17. Reckoner.
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Hmmm that's throwen me, dunno what to do now. Was going to change capt from Ronaldo to Gomez then Torres then Pirlo/Gerrard if needed. Now it would have to be Schweinsteiger today. I'm leaning towards sticking with Ronaldo, what you guys think?

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    1. pukey
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'm going Schweinsteiger

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      1. pukey
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        althought my cap choices are often rubbish... so you may wanna steer clear 🙂

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      2. Reckoner.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        I'm also still considering captaining Gomez, is that crazy? Still fancy him to get a goal or two from the bench.

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    2. THE BAD
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      if you're going to sitch to torres might as well give it to schweiunz today

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      1. Reckoner.
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Yeah just started thinking that if one of them score only 2 points I'd only be losing 4 points and don't think I'd be able to stop myself from switching tomorrow so switch it is.

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  18. Lordjim
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Greek defence holds up, I get high RB pts from German onslaught. Klose lack of match time leaves him left wanting and Gomez is brought on in 58th minute to score a brace......mark my words....

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    1. asyrafdanial
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      then.u will stick with Gomez ?

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      1. Lordjim
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Of course, I have Silva, Iniesta and Alba on the bench ready to sub in for Gomez....nothing to lose....

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  19. MourinhoJunior
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    repost
    got some new info.guess what guys?Low play fantasy too.and he captained Klose for this round to catch up with his mini league leader.damn Low.so selfish and screwed us all.

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    1. MUfan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      that means he might even force an own goal if he's winning. beware those who captain hummel

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      1. MourinhoJunior
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        crap

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  20. pukey
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I dont understand all the people twisting on ronaldo (6) to a german defender.... IF they get a clean sheet AND 5rbs... it's still only 7 points? What's the average score per game for a German defender thus far (genuine question).

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    1. Puzzle
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      It's 3 chances to get more than 6 points. Fair chance IMO, and more fun.

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      1. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        ^^this^^^

        This game is supposed to be fun at the end of the day. I have a 50 point ML lead, might as well enjoy myself.

        14 points from a defender > 12 from a striker

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    2. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Exactly. People banking on a goal which is complete pot luck with a def.

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    3. Zong
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Yeah, but ze Greeks are quite a few notches weaker than Ned, Den or Por don't you think?

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      1. Zong
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        And consequently weaker at set pieces perhaps? Just wishful thinking..

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    4. Art Vandelay
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I plan to captain Silva or iniesta tomorrow but am having a hummel shaped punt in the meantime.

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    5. Manani
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      more fun watching the match + if fail still have 2 more options.

      completely legit change

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  21. MUfan
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    disrespectful of the Germans. I hope Greece win. after Hummels Ozil and Scheweinsteiger score each and assist each. 4-4

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Why disrespectful? They have chosen the best team to take on an undoubtedly defensive Greece. There have been numerous posts on this site as to why the German's have picked the players they have. Before making accusations, make sure you are informed.

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      1. Zong
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1. Reus and Schurrle have deserved a chance, and Klose is a more er.. complete player than Gomez is..

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      2. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Mind you, I do think that there is an element of silly buggers about Löw's selection ...

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  22. GoonerByron
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Well my double up on Gomez and Podolski has failed miserably... ðŸ™

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    1. beric
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Unlucky mate. No one saw this coming.

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    2. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Ouch

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    3. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      D'oh! unlucky

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    4. The Milkman
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      You poor poor Gooner.

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  23. Fpl Old Guard
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Who else is sitting smugly after not switching the captain armband from CR7 to Gomez???

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    1. pukey
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I'd never swap the armband before 100% knowing that the other player will start tbh.

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      1. Declan
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        ^^this

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  24. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Am I the only one with Captain Schweinsteiger? ðŸ˜

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    1. ★FC Borecelona★
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Nope 😀

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    2. Reedy
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Nope 😀

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    3. Sess!
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Fancy him to score a pen tonight. Bookmark this.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        That's better! Thanks, lads! 😀

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      2. Silly Sausage
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        or miss one...jinxed it

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    4. pukey
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Me too... sorry in advance :$

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    5. Coldplay
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Count me in.

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    6. Derailed Bandwagon
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Im going for it too.

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  25. Just_Ty
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Told you Gomez wouldn't start (not that it helps my team)... let's pray Boateng gets smth

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  26. Pinoche
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Who all have got Ozil(c) ? 🙂

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    1. Declan
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I wish I did

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      1. Pinoche
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Who have you got then?

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        1. Declan
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          still contemplating CR7 to Hummels, with one eye on putting Silva(C) tomorrow

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Me... and Forca ðŸ™

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      1. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        Jamsie does as well

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      2. Pinoche
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        So are we ready for the Ozil explosion ? 🙂

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          The manager can't be wrong. It could be a bloodfest 😉

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  27. Disco Stu
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    I'm sticking with CR7. If Hummels, Badstuber, Neuer or Gomez have a good game, it'll still help me, and maybe I'll miss out on 2 or 4 points

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    1. The Milkman
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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      1. King Nemanja
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +1

        Have a little fun 😀

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        1. JK - Cønt â­
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          +42

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      2. JK - Cønt â­
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        😆

        Some people have no sense of adventure

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        1. Disco Stu
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 13 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          I'm leading my mini league by 30 points, and I'm undefeated in my head to head.. Let them chase me for a while

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    2. YOUNG and ARROGANT
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      man, u r such a pussy. take a risk man.

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    3. Manani
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      meow meow meow

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      1. Disco Stu
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        God damn peer pressure. Just switched to Hummels

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  28. Lordjim
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    If you have 12 points with CR7, there is no point risking that to gain just 2 points on a GER defender getting 7. The risk reward is just not there.

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Stop it. It is irrelevant now.

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      1. MourinhoJunior
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        +11

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        1. Lordjim
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 5 months ago

          Ohhh, by a minute...

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    2. megatronaldinho
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      what have you got to lose by takin a punt or 3? stickin is waay too boring. i finish top 1k or top10k. either way i'll have fun gettin there. stick if ure scared to take a chance

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  29. @FuzzyWarbles
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    HUMMELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    1. JK - Cønt â­
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      (c)?

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Bless you!

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    3. Gigging Order
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Me too, I convinced myself with my own stats

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  30. asyrafdanial
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 5 months ago

    Do u think Makos will get something ?

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    1. The Milkman
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      75 RBs!

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    2. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      A yellow.

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      1. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 5 months ago

        For Chrissakes, have a drink!!! 😀

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    3. Doosra - ☭DeclanMyGeniusâ…
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      I do now ... 😉

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    4. MourinhoJunior
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      RB

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    5. Evs
      • Has Moderation Rights
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Keebab ?

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    6. asyrafdanial
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      Naah ! Always negative for him...

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    7. BONZ
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 5 months ago

      tap on the back when subbed

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