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18 July 2012 2603 comments
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Yesterday’s surprise unveiling of the Fantasy Premier League (FPL) Player List for 2012/13 already has the site awash with Rate My Teams (RMT) while we await the game’s official launch. Having taken some time to soak in what’s on offer, we’re rolling out a thorough three-part analysis of the valuations, looking at the options from cheap to costly, with a punt or two also thrown in for good measure. We start, as all good teams do, at the back, with an examination of the options in goal and amongst the defenders…

The Goalkeepers

Scouring the bargain basement for cheap keeper rotation possibilities, it’s immediately clear that we’re be starting our search from 4.5 and upwards. Last term we had the likes of Michel Vorm as a 4.0 priced wonder but this time round, every option at that cost is no more than a bench-warmer. Further frustrating is the fact that only five keepers at 4.5 are nailed-on first-team picks – Jussi Jaaskelainen, John Ruddy, Rob Green, Kelvin Davis and Adam Federici.

In the 5.0 range, Sunderland’s Simon Mignolet looks a decent prospect; the Belgian racked up 121 points from 29 appearances in 2011/12, with 11 clean sheets accrued. Of all keepers in the 5.0 bracket, Ben Foster had the most successful season last time round – the West Brom keeper racked up 140 points, with 109 saves boosting his haul, though question marks hang over his potential next season after the departure of Roy Hodgson.

Shay Given also comes in at 5.0 but, while many would assume he can hardly do worse than last season’s total of 96, new Villa boss Paul Lambert is hardly renowned for defensive-minded tactics; Norwich shipped 66 goals last term under his guidance. Mark Schwarzer perhaps looks a better bet at a similar value. Further up the price ladder, much depends on how you plan to use you budget; Newcastle’s Tim Krul looks the most likely bet at 5.5, with doubts over whether Michel Vorm can replicate last term’s superb form under new boss Michael Laudrup, while Fantasy managers will be wary of Tim Howard, given Everton’s propensity for slow starts to the season.

David De Gea is already an RMT favourite at 6.0; if the Spaniard can improve on his 29 starts last time out, his value as United’s number one looks enticing for those willing to pick up a more expensive keeper. It will be interesting to see if De Gea’s valuation and the early interest in him leads to a shift from the popular “twin cheap keeper” template. A heavy-hitter in goal could well see many a squad go into the season with a thrifty set of defenders, with the United slot perhaps already occupied.

Elsewhere, Pepe Reina also has potential at the same price if Liverpool can replicate Swansea’s clean sheet returns under Brendan Rodgers, while Joe Hart’s 7.0 valuation is likely to deter many, with cheaper options in the City backline.

The Defenders

The 4.0 price range offers us as handful of first-team options to consider, mainly from the promoted clubs. West Ham duo George McCartney and Guy Demel could be worth consideration; the former has just completed a permanent deal after spending last season on loan, while the latter struggled with injury in 2011/12 – if fit, he could well make the right-back slot his own. Elsewhere, Jose Fonte was nailed-on for Southampton last season, as was Kaspars Gorkss at Reading, though the purchase of Adrian Mariappa casts doubts over the Royals likely starters. The Norwich backline offers us options under new boss Chris Hughton, with left-back Marc Tierney perhaps the stand-out in this bracket for the Canaries.

Just a notch up, at 4.5, there are options aplenty for us to consider for our defences. Wigan’s Maynor Figueroa is nailed-on for the Latics and started all but one of their league games last term, while James Tomkins is a dead-cert to feature in the heart of the West Ham back-four. Sunderland new boy Carlos Cuellar is a tempting offer if he can nail down a regular role following his move from Aston Villa, while Kyle Naughton is one to watch if his mooted move to Villa from Spurs goes through. The appeal of Ian Harte has taken a considerable dent after Nicky Shorey’s arrival at Reading – the former tends to hog free-kicks and also has spot-kick duties in the bag but, with his game time at left-back now called into question, snapping up his services comes with plenty risk attached.

Stoke’s regular left-back Marc Wilson affords us a cheap route into Tony Pulis’ defence, while Southampton pair Danny Fox and Jos Hooiveld offer plenty attacking threat, with the former having a fair share of corner kicks, too. The QPR backline could well prove decent value, with Mark Hughes’ side particularly strong at Loftus Road last term; on-loan United man Fabio is the pick of the bunch. Carl Jenkinson should start the season at right-back for Arsenal in light of Bacary Sagna’s broken leg, while Matt Lowton and Eric Lichaj are ones to watch if they can nail down a starting role at Villa.

Further up the price bracket at 5.0, Liam Ridgewell was the most impressive performer for West Brom last time out – he averaged 4.7 points per game after moving from Birmingham in January. The Swansea first-choice backline are all similarly priced, though Ashley Williams picked up more points than any of his defensive colleagues last term. Fabricio Coloccini is the most consistent choice from Newcastle in terms of game time, though Steven Taylor and Davide Santon could potentially outscore their skipper if they can avoid injury and rotation respectively. There are plenty of options from Sunderland at this price, though the likes of Phil Bardsley will reduce in appeal if Cuellar can nail down a starting role, while Brede Hangeland is the stand-out option at the back for Fulham here.

As we further into the more expensive area of investment, both Younes Kaboul and Rafael, at 5.5 apiece, may well prove to be decent punts, bearing in mind their fellow defenders at Spurs and United are far more costly – of the two, Kaboul looks guaranteed more game time but if the Brazilian can nail down the right-back role at Old Trafford, he could be strong value. Robert Huth is down from last season’s starting price of 6.0 but, despite poor returns, the stats confirm he continues to offer consistent goal threat.

With Vincent Kompany coming in at 7.5 and so much uncertainty over the full-back area at Man City, Joleon Lescott is perhaps the best route into the champions’ defence. At 6.5, the former Everton man offers more guaranteed game time than Gael Clichy and co, though the attacking potential from the full-backs in enticing at 6.0. Jose Enrique and Martin Skrtel, both at 6.0, are the cheapest options in a Liverpool defence hoping to benefit from the Brendan Rodgers effect, while Ashley Cole’s 6.5 price and guaranteed game time at Chelsea seems set to pick up plenty investment. In spite of their 7.0 price tags, Thomas Vermaelen, Nemanja Vidic and Leighton Baines all have the attacking potential to provide us with substantial returns and are all more than capable of double figure points hauls in almost any given Gameweek.

As mentioned, defensive strategies could well depend on the spending in goal – if De Gea’s popularity translates into initial purchases, this could see a shift in the defensive strategy towards even greater emphasis on mid-price and budget options.

We’ll follow this guide up with a look at the midfielders next – a key area in recent seasons, despite the collapse of the much heralded Ronaldo/Lampard/Gerrard “holy trinity” of seasons gone by.

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  1. DVassell
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    i dont think this rmt has been done yet?

    friedel green

    Joleon hangeland fabio gorkss jenkinson

    Hazard dempsey noble maloney britton

    Tevez Rooney Aguero

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    1. Declan-
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      very different

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    2. hillbillypete
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      midfield too weak. u know it

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      1. DVassell
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        nah haz demps noble maloney is boom time

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      2. Tommytour
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        You should see my mid then 🙁

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    3. LÖrKingMuch
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      Unlike any others posted previously. Tevez Aguero combo could work well.

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    4. DVassell
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      who would u get rid of britton for? any 4.5 mfs worth it?

      either that or take out friedel for jaas and put in 5.5 mf?

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    5. isacki: full casual
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      Yes No
      Yes Yes No No No
      Maybe Maybe Maybe Maybe No
      Maybe Yes Yes

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      1. DVassell
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        turn one def no into a yes or maybe and ive got myself 11

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        1. isacki: full casual
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          Er.... Fabio.... maybe??

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  2. European Bob
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    Critically evaluate my first draft team:

    Szczesny / Jaaskelainen (Couldn't have picked 2 harder to spell!)

    Cole / Lescott / Williams / Hangeland / Lichaj

    Toure / Noble / Allen / Kebe / Anderson

    Rooney / Aguero / Torres

    Torres > Adebayor post GW1

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    1. Declan-
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      Anderson is unlikely to play

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    2. King Eric, in America
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      That's Anderson from United? Playing time too much at risk, for me.

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    3. Nopli
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      Toure out for HBA and Anderson out for Moses

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      1. Hate that rotation
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        Moses too expensive IMO

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    4. Shipstontrev
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      Ivan ahead of Cole.

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    5. floydy_floyd
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      Ever so poor.

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    6. Tommytour
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      What the hell is that midfield all about?

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      1. European Bob
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        Appreciate the honesty. Cutting costs to fund the attacking department. Perhaps I'll reconsider Allen, Anderson and Kebe. Suggestions welcome with who to replace them with!

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        1. Tommytour
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          Im going cheap in midfield also

          Sinclair Taarabt Pienaar Nzogbia Noble

          Also consider McClean/Larsson, Pilkington, Ramires, Maloney

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  3. jimbobjeff85
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    @Paul (Article author). It was Jose Fonte for Southampton last season, not Rui Fonte.

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  4. Screaming Midget
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    I'm still going for FPL to be launched for the new season around the 24th - next Tuesday.

    Not expecting it to be anytime soon.

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    1. Declan-
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      Most of us are happy tho because of the prices

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  5. The Bandit
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    Cashley Capt GW1.... 😎

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    1. yeates45
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      I am thinking the same, him or Terry

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      1. LÖrKingMuch
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        or Ivanovic?

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        1. yeates45
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          Ivan is a goal threat but last year was rotated and I do expect this to continue.

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          1. The Shaman
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            Although Bosingwa has gone now, so less rotation at right back???

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    2. Churchill
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      Cheeky.

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      1. hillbillypete
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        Ivan for me

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        1. The Bandit
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          If Ivan is nailed on I will get him instead

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          1. LeBron - King of Argentina
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            Who else can they play as a good RB?

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            1. The Bandit
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              Nobody that they already have.... 😉

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    3. JK - Cønt ⭐
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      Terry for me

      Chelsea likely to keep at least 1, maybe 2 CS, and he's always liable to pop up with a goal.

      Unless of course I chicken out and stick it on Fat Frank

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      1. LeBron - King of Argentina
        • 13 Years
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        How about Ivanovic mate?

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        1. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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          Terry naield on, Chelsea still looking for right-backs apparently

          Terry ➡ Vidic for GW2 simples

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          1. LeBron - King of Argentina
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            Hmm... Yes, unless Chelski won't sign a RB.

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            1. The Bandit
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              Inconceivable for me that they won't replace Bos and just settle for Ivan

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              1. LeBron - King of Argentina
                • 13 Years
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                Well, we haven't got anyone to replace Evra at LB 🙁 Dunno, is it just me or good LBs are much more difficult to find nowadays than RBs?

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                1. The Bandit
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                  You haven't sold Evra... Bos is gone.

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                  1. LeBron - King of Argentina
                    • 13 Years
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                    I meant if Evra gets injured mate, didn't make it clear

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                  2. The Shaman
                    • 13 Years
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                    Rumours of Baines to United..........can't believe he'd want to warm the bench though!

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          2. LeBron - King of Argentina
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            No City mf coverage might cost us. (likes of Nasri/Yaya as Silva is too expensive) What are your thoughts?

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            1. JK - Cønt ⭐
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              nah, just Aguero for me at this point, even having him worries me with City's rotation. Yaya is the most nailed on, but not where the points are.

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              1. LeBron - King of Argentina
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                Oh Aguero is nailed on as long RVP doesn't join them - gotta have him and good old Torres for the DGW 😉

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                1. JK - Cønt ⭐
                  • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                  • 14 Years
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                  nope, no Torres for DGW for me

                  If RvP joins, Aguero is OUT for me, will get Jelly instead and spend the cash.

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                  1. LeBron - King of Argentina
                    • 13 Years
                    13 years, 6 months ago

                    I c, going with Roonpig or Bent then?

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                  2. JK - Cønt ⭐
                    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
                    • 14 Years
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                    Rooney, in there all season for me.

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                  3. LeBron - King of Argentina
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                    Hmm... Interesting

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  6. Shipstontrev
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    So how good is the members' comparison tool?

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      It's pretty cool and thorough ... average position map, oodles of stats. I question whether it's better for debating on the forum or for one's FPL team selection. I'm not a fan of making choices based on stats alone but rather from watching the games/players (shocker) ...

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      1. Shipstontrev
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers Eric.

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          By my sloppy count: 76 stats in 6 areas (Fantasy Index, Involvement, Goal Threat, Distribution, Defending, Set Pieces) plus a summary score and the average position map. Searchable by player and a range of different matches (All, last 2/4/6, home/away, etc.).

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      2. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        We appear to have something in common.

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    2. isacki: full casual
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      Hand on heart you will be thanking whoever coded it ("Ed") every time you are torn between Player A & Player B this season, ie. infinity times...

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      1. Shipstontrev
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        so it's almost as good as your spreadsheet then!

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
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          Oh, I'm just waiting for the hate mail to come in from people telling me I destroyed 5 years of good ranks

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    3. Ginkapo FPL
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      I'd say it was worth £50 a year.....

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  7. Tim Canterbury
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Look at Nathan Dyer's average position in GW15. Im guessing he (slowly) came on as a sub

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  8. Tommytour
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Right I have 36m on GK Def, any improvement on this?

    De Gea Federici/Begovic
    Ivanovic Cole Cuellar McCarthy Nelson

    Oh yeah and I want 2 Chelskis 😉

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      McCarthy?

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      1. Tommytour
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        *McCartney

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      2. Hate that rotation
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        4.0 hammer of the year

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        1. Shipstontrev
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          so he's nailed on? 😉

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          1. Tommytour
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            Until his bubble bursts 😉

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            1. Shipstontrev
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              you've hit the nail on the head there! 😉

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          2. Hate that rotation
            • 14 Years
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            Not entirely. But the hammer have great 4.0 options.

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            1. Hate that rotation
              • 14 Years
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              *hammers

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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      Nelson is at the Olympics with NZ btw.

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      1. Tommytour
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers, now Im scraping the barrel

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    3. Corrigan
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      McCartney on the play off final bench suggests he isn't nailed on

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      1. Hate that rotation
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Nah I think Sam wanted goals and went for Taylor at LB. He could then field Collison, Nolan, Noble and O'Neill at the same time.

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        1. Mark
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • Has Moderation Rights
          • 19 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Indeed, Taylor got found out at left-back in the top flight. I can't see Big Sam going with him over McCartney.

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      2. Tommytour
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        13 years, 6 months ago

        Whos there RB?

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        1. Hate that rotation
          • 14 Years
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          Demel

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  9. J.Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    RMT my KICK ASS team!

    --------------------DDG - Jussi-----------------------

    Ivanovic-Jenkinson-Cuellar-Tierney-Demel

    ---Bale-Lampard-Kagava-N'Zogbia-Noble--

    -------------Aguero--Torres--Graham------------

    I KNOW my defence is ubercheap, but they rotate well!

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  10. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Very nice article.

    Much appriciated.

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  11. yeates45
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    13 years, 6 months ago

    Last year I was burned so many times with GK rotation policy, where the keeper with c/s ended up on the bench.... Therefore this year I am going for a expensive GK (De Gea or Cech) and a bench warmer (Jaaskelainen)

    The plan for my defence is to have 2 every week defenders (Vidic/Cole - depending on keeper and Clichy) then 2 rotating defenders (Tomkins and Dunne) and finally a £4.5m bench warmer to be used infrequently (Figueroa or Kelly)

    What is everyone else doing?

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    1. The Bandit
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      You will be even more pissed when Jaask keeps a cs and De Gea doesn't!

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      1. yeates45
        • 14 Years
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        Don't.... I am dreading that already!! Sods law!

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        1. The Bandit
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          The only round it is to have a non playing second keeper. I may yet do this with Hart

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          1. yeates45
            • 14 Years
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            I had thought of that, but I always like to have 15 players that play, just in case.

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      2. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        I had De Gea and Mingolet last season for a time, had that exact thing happen to me, when United drew 4-4 with Everton.

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        1. yeates45
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          I am just hoping with Vidic back United will be a lot more solid, I doubt Fergie will stand for the standard of defending in that game!

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
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            Also a chance Lindy might pop up, which is I suppose why you have Jussi,

            I have Mignolet and Foster, 2 good keepers with decent CS chances at home (and rotate well) and less than DDG and Jussi

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            1. yeates45
              • 14 Years
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              That's the idea, after the end of last season De Gea is number 1 but Lindy will get game time.

              Both of those keepers are cracking shot stoppers, so plenty of save points! In addition that extra cash can be spent elsewhere.

              I am loving the prices this season, many more players to choose from and hopefully not too many standard teams!

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      3. Tim Canterbury
        • 14 Years
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        Pick a really shitty 4.5m to ensure minimal bench clean sheets

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        1. yeates45
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          Jaask is the best value for £4.5m imo.

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  12. hillbillypete
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    DeGea 6.0 Jaaskalinan 4.5

    Ivanovic 6.5 Lescott 6.5 Vertonghen 6.5 Hughes 4.5 Fabio 4.5

    Ramires 7.0 Pienaar 6.5 Sigurdsson 9.0 Dempsey 9.5 Noble 5.0

    Torres 10.0 Tevez 9.0 Pog 5.0

    thoughts? first go. hit me.

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    1. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Vertoghen > Kaboul - saves 1m
      Siggy > Bale - whilst VDV is there Siggy is not nailed on

      Like the strong defence, would be wary of Tevez but could turn out to be this years must have.

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      1. hillbillypete
        • 16 Years
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        yea, i will monitor them.

        i am keen on Vertong tho.

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        1. The Bandit
          • 15 Years
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          +1 on Vertonghen but I agree that Bale will be much better than Siggy

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          1. hillbillypete
            • 16 Years
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            i will prob do the Bale move.

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      2. The Bandit
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        Vertonghen to Kaboul is sooooo unsexy..

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  13. Nopli
    • 14 Years
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    Hey Guys 🙂 Finally i have managed to assemble my team. Thoughts?

    De Gea Green
    Ivanovic Lescott Tomkins Gorkks Fabio
    Hazard HBA Bale Silva Noble
    Cisse(NewC) Torres Lambert

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    1. hillbillypete
      • 16 Years
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      IMO u r relying on silva, bale, hazard.........will they be consistant?

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      1. Nopli
        • 14 Years
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        Silva n Bale are my season keepers but as soon as Mata gets into the team after some rest i will have him inplace of Hazrd.. Bale,Mata and Silva will remain in my team to the very end just like last season 🙂

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      So this is your first RMT then? Liar

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      1. Nopli
        • 14 Years
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        😆 Its not my first RMT. Had already posted two before it. 🙂

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      2. 4vets
        • 15 Years
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        Now then, say what you really feel 😉

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    3. Tommytour
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      13 years, 6 months ago

      Too much Newcastle with their first 2 games and Euro commitments, lack of Captain options.

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  14. Jairzinho
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    • 15 Years
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    If you'd like to see which players came in as decent/poor value, based on the average price predicted by my 32 entrants, I've updated my blog.

    http://thefourpointhit.wordpress.com/2012/07/18/finding-value/

    TEASER:
    Pogrebnyak, Ba, Lampard GOOD.

    Lallana, Moses Sigurdsson BAD.

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    1. The Bandit
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      They all look bad to me. 😀

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      1. Jairzinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
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        Haha ... a good thing you didn't play, then! You'd have been worse off than Ginkapo - even he managed to get SOME right!

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        1. Ginkapo FPL
          • 14 Years
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          Yeah I am so pro

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    2. Ginkapo FPL
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      Oh man I failed

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      1. Smarty Pants
        • 16 Years
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        haha, great score, by a wide margin 😉

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    3. SH1M1
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      rooney is 12.0, not 12.5 😛

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      1. Jairzinho
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
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        Thanks!

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  15. isacki: full casual
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    One thing I will be TRYING to avoid this season is going for the very cheapest defenders in each team in the belief that is always better value. So many times last year I missed out on assists and BPs because Mr 0.5 More Expensive got them.

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    1. JK - Cønt ⭐
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
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      It's why I have Huth, Fabio and Tomkins, all in the most expensive price bracket, all likely to get attacking points.

      The exception to this rule was good old Choppa Tony

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah I am mightily tempted by Huth, and to a lesser extent by Fabio. Huth could be a goalscoring machine. On the other hand, I could spend that 1.0 extra (over another Stoke defender) on upgrading a Spurs defender to Vertonghen or that kind of thing.

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        1. COMH
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Hangelaand interesting you at all? Like Huth he is a sleeping giant and could regain his form of past seasons.

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          1. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Yep on previous page 😉 Hangeland AND Huth is something I'm looking at

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            1. COMH
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Liking that

              Kaboul Huth Hangeland Cuellar Ridgewell is pretty awesome

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          2. LeBron - King of Argentina
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            You're could be right. Which one will deliver that is the question? One will definitely feature in my squad to begin with.

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        2. JK - Cønt ⭐
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          I looked at going uber cheap in midfield and ended up with Vidic, Lescott, Terry, Fabio and Tomkins as my defenders. Then I thought, well why bother with Tomkins or Fabio? GW3 aside I'm gonna play either of them, so I'm sticking to my 2 heavyweights, 3 rotators strategy

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          1. LeBron - King of Argentina
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            +1

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          2. isacki: full casual
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Yeah you have to balance it against wasted money sitting on the bench. Maybe 1 heavyweight, 2 attacking rotators and 2 cheap rotators.

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Or they were injured the one week where their team actually got a clean sheet. You know who I'm talking about 😉

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I am sorry I do not know this "Stephen" person you say is missing, Mr Policeman. I have never seen him in my life, it is very tragic how he disappeared just like that.

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    3. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Same here, great point. Points > Price

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    4. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Agreed, but it's so difficult when you wanna save money for your attack!

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    5. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      We all love to cut corners though 😉

      Senderos really pissed me off last season

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    6. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Amen - the year before last I went for the cheaper player and caught a cold several times. Last year I went for the more expensive one, e.g. Terry over Cashley, and it was well worth doing.

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    7. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I actually disagree here. For instance, I don't think it's worth paying 5+ for Stoke, Fulham and Sunderland defenders when there's ones at 4.5 and nailed on. I like to go aerodynamic as possible at the back, on the search for this year's Jevans, BAE and Enrique.

      Another was BAE was .5 cheaper than Walker last year.

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      1. isacki: full casual
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah in general you want to get the cheapest possible CS, all I'm saying is to bend that rule if there's extra points on offer at higher price. Jevans and BAE are incredible value, and so is paying 0.5 more for a defender who returns semi-regular attacking points over his mates.

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    8. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Depends if they are nailed on. Chris Glover did an article on why the opposite of what you said is true.

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        1. isacki: full casual
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Basically his point is that you should A) have enough nailed-on subs to not miss out on appearances B) not have your subs too expensive such that you bench loads of money... and C) you need to save money because there are few credible budget midfielders and many credible top-priced midfielders.

          As everyone knows the prices are cheaper this year and thus I don't think money is quite as tight - plus he didn't include attacking points from budget defenders in his overview - possibly because there weren't many budget defenders offering them then, whereas I think there's a a few this year.

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      1. Tiki-Taka
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Could you link me this please?

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  16. Rock n Grohl
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    2011/2012 starts

    Kelly £4.5 = 21 c/s 4
    Hughes £4.5 = 18 c/s 6
    Baird £4.5 = 13 c/s 5

    Perhaps Fulham rotation maybe bet served by paying .5 more for Hangeland?

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    1. crystalstream
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      If memory serves Hughes was injured for a decent spell

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  17. Thomass
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    RMT: Fill In the Gaps if you would like!!

    Szczesny Jaaskelainen

    Cahill Demel McCartney Lescott _______

    Hazard Walcott Gerrard Dempsey ________
    Torres Aguero _______
    thanks!!

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      how much you got left?

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Judging by that midfield, nothing.

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        1. Tommytour
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Milanista there goes your triple defence ^ 3 Hammers 🙂

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          1. Mílanista
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Jussi, Demel, McCartney - £12.5m
            Begovic, Wilson, Shawcross - £14m
            Kaboul to play every week - £5.5m

            £32m (or £33m with Lescott instead) is a few million less than my many draft teams. I can't, can I? 😀

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            1. Tommytour
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              When you see it like that 😉

              Its Stoke start that would put me off, plus too much value elsewhere, shame.

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      2. Thomass
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        10.0 who should i take out then?? thanks

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    2. Nopli
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      u have 10-12 mill left.. Not possible.

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  18. COMH
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Is Cuellar, Figueroa and Fabio too much on the cheapness?

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    1. Jairzinho
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      For the teams they play for, I think they're decent

      (ie wouldn't spend an extra 0.5 for Brown, Boyce or Traore)

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    2. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Don't fancy Figueroa tbh

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      1. COMH
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Cuellar Boyce Fabio could work

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        1. Shipstontrev
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Better

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  19. SMOOTH
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    what do you chaps think of this

    DDG BEGOVIC

    CLICHY IVANOVIC CUELLAR GORKS MCCARTNEY

    BALE KAGAWA GUTHRIE HAZARD NOBLE

    AGUERO TORRES GRAHAM

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    1. LÖrKingMuch
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Looks ok apart from the ALLCAPS 😉

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    2. isacki: full casual
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      ALRIGHT

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  20. FORCA INTER
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    what do you think about this draft? BIG defence

    DDG / Federeici

    Clichy / Cole / Ivanovic Lescott / 4M(Demel or Mccrantey)

    Sess / Noble / Sinclair / Taarabt / N'Zogbia

    Rooney / Adebayor / Petric

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    1. LÖrKingMuch
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Looks interesting and different. Whom are you thinking to captain for the DGW - one of Ivanovic/Cole?

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Ivanovic cause he is bigger goal threat

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        1. LÖrKingMuch
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Agree.

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    2. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Are you planning on playing 4-3-3?

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      1. FORCA INTER
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        yeah 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 for season

        i dont like 3-4-3

        everytime when i changed my formation to 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 last season i had much better score than with ussual 3-4-3

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        1. Mílanista
          • Fantasy Football Scout Member
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          In that case I would suggest getting a second 5m midfielder (say Maloney) and upgrading another midfielder for a big hitter.

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          1. FORCA INTER
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            i only consider one of Nani ,Silva for big hitters(any maybe lamp caise of dgw)

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            1. Mílanista
              • Fantasy Football Scout Member
              • 14 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Not interested in Valencia/Kagawa or Bale?

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              1. FORCA INTER
                • 14 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                iprefer nani insated of kagawa and valencia and i will have adebayor so i dont need Bale even if dubbling up on spurs atack could be great so i might try find place to get bale in

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    3. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      You see, it's not as easy as everyone predicted!

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      1. Parm
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Too much choice if you ask me, watchlist cobsists of 50+ players ATM.

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          yep,

          it's easy to get mf and def

          i am struggling with atack cause i think that all of this players will have great season :Rooney,Aguero,Torres,Petric,Bent,Jelavic,Cisse (both)

          it's hard to find 3 good strikers so

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      2. Corrigan
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        +1

        On another note, don't spend too much on a big defence. Trust me. 1 or 2 options at 6-6.5 are great but the main thing is that you don't want too much cash tied up. You'll be screaming for .5 at certain points to purchase a big hitter and then perhaps have to spend defensive transfers just to afford him.

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  21. Tim Canterbury
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Im tempted by N'Zogbia

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    1. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Stay faithful to your partner, you tart!

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  22. pewty
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Where's Borini on the player list??

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    1. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Not added yet

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    2. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      yet to be added

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  23. crystalstream
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone care to predict the Everton starting midfield for me please?

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    1. Top 210 Club
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Osman, Pienaar, Fellaini, Neville / Rodwell

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    2. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Pienaar hopefully, Fellaini, Osman,Gibson, a n other

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    3. Le Gooner
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Osman, Fellaini, Naismith, Gibson, Pienaar

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      1. Le Gooner
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        *Naismith in the hole, classified as a forward in FPL

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  24. Top 210 Club
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    RMT guys,

    DDG, Jassi

    Tierney, Ivanovic, Cole, Cuellar, Fabio,

    Siggy, Valencia, Yaya, Maloney, Fox,

    Aguero, Torres, Zamora

    Ta!

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    1. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Avoid Tierney, he's injury-prone. First RMT I 've seen with Zamora - there's a reason for that!

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      1. Holy See
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        He's at the end alphabetically?

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        1. Shipstontrev
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          you got me there!

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  25. Churchill
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Worth paying £1m more for Vidic over De Gea? Vidic is perfectly capable of scoring 6 goals, which equates to 36 points.

    Thoughts please.

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    1. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Not IMO. Always find the cheapest nailed on link to a defence IMO. That extra million can be used on captaincy options and probably worth way more than 36 potential points over a season.

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    2. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Depends what your going to do with the extra mil?

      Personally
      De Gea over Vidic
      Lescott over Kompany
      Kaboul over Vertoghen

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      1. Churchill
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        No particular team in mind, just throwing the thought out there.

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      2. The Bandit
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        +1
        +1
        -1

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Last year I scored 2227 for a 2.6k rank. Based on that each £1m of my starting budget was worth 22 points. Seems to be an argument for it.

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    4. yeates45
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I've been deciding the same thing, personally I have decided on De Gea as there are plenty of defensive options such as Cole, Ivan, Clichy.

      Also, De Gea will get save points in pretty much every week, therefore that will probably add up to the 36 you mentioned over the season.

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    5. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      yeah but de gea will get more than 36 in save points..

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    6. Churchill
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Cheers guys. Think ths warrants further examination.

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  26. Drip Doctor
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Looks like Clyne will be a Southampton player. Likely to be first choice?

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    1. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I think so, decent player.

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    2. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I think the deal has been done, don't know a lot about him'

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  27. Jafooli
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    My team looks pony, might play my WC this weekend. Too early?

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    1. Le Gooner
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Don't hold back.

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      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Activated......not sure who to bring in now that Ebanks-Blake got relegated....

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        1. Taribo West on a free
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Boselli?

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          1. Jafooli
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Already have him.....

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        2. Le Gooner
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Malouda

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    2. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Why not, you'll probably get another one in GW2.

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      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        That would be nice....need all the help I can get.......

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    3. Corrigan
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      At this time, apart from endless tinkering, it's great being joint no.1 in the world!

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      1. Jafooli
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        You're also joint bottom.......but then so am I.......smiley face thing

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  28. JK - Cønt ⭐
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Someone hurry up and buy Berba.

    Rooney, Aguero and Berba as strikers = no need to change (barring injury)

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    1. FORCA INTER
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      why you not temped by Adebayor? i will get him instaedof Aguero anyday

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      1. Scroobius Mac
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Why? Not saying Ade is a bad pick but Aguero seems the better one.

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        1. FORCA INTER
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          you think so? i just think that Ade will be inloved in manny spurs goals

          on theiother hand Aguero will sharee goals with Balotelli/Tevez and even RVPif he joins

          i dont think he will have as good season as last one

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          1. JK - Cønt ⭐
            • Fantasy Football Scout Member
            • 14 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            You are assuming Ade will go to Spurs.

            Aguero can only get better IMO.

            Id he fails, he's 11.5 million, not exactly gonna be hard to replace him.

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        2. Tommytour
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Im with Forca on this one would rather Ade for his first 5 than Aguero, that being said Id be shit scared not having Kun for SOT!

          *see Kun being rested for sto, weekend before first Champs League game and straight after Internationals.

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      2. SH1M1
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        OMG you didn't say adebaYOUR *CLAP* 😛 xD

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    2. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      But not Milan I presume!

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  29. 4vets
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    More on not picking/tinkering with a team yet... I think I just like to look at the shirts etc. on FPL to see how it all *looks*.

    I never realised how illogical my thought processes were until now!

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  30. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I imagine most of the first registration people will be from this site. Guys like Noble will be hugely picked and high ownership will mean all the other noobs will then select him too. Why doesn't everyone start with a really terrible team to boost bad players ownership, then change it to a proper team later once all the others have copied the rubbish ownership selections 😀

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    1. Scroobius Mac
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I like this plan. They need to be subtly crap though.

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    2. Shipstontrev
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Doosra will do this anyway!

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      1. 4vets
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        The thing is, he'll keep that team 😉

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        1. Shipstontrev
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          let's all play spot the differential 😀

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            😆 You have to admire it though.

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      2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        haha! 😀

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    3. Mílanista
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I was thinking the same thing. Everyone buy Kolarov, ditch pre deadline then watch his price fall so much as the casuals sell we can justify getting him despite a lack of appearances 🙂

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    4. 4vets
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I think you have a too high opinion of FFS & yourself.

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      1. Mílanista
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I've heard colleagues talk about selecting players because "they've been selected by a lot of people so must be good".

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        1. 4vets
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          But to actually think that folks here could affect that is slightly ridiculous... 2.7mill players.

          Also, it's incredibly condescending.

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        2. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          its definitely a major influencer. i'd imagine everyone uses it as one of the more leading guides to selection.

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          1. 4vets
            • 15 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            As said, I think you overestimate FFS's influence. No-one I know "in the real world" uses this site. They look at the Scout on FPL but that's it.

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        1. Hello. Yes, This is Dog
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          haha 😀

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    6. Le Gooner
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Sounds good to me.

      Let's all pick Malouda 😀

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    7. Tommytour
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Hence the Bosellis and Moses 😉

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    8. Declan-
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      auto complete all the way

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