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27 July 2012 1835 comments
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We’re delighted to reveal that the first set of Pre-Season Projections are now available to our Members. These can be found under the Projections section in the Members Area – we’ve supplied a season-long table, split by each position and, for a short-term view, have also provided a table which plots the Projections for just the opening six Gameweeks.

The Player Projections are, in many ways, our player predictions, offering a view of “projected” goals, assists, clean sheets etc for the season ahead. We also include Fantasy Premier League (FPL) points and bonus in the Projections, although no matter what Fantasy game you play, these will hopefully provide an invaluable guide.

We will be updating these Projections frequently: there will doubtless be tweaks required, particularly to the playing probabilities – in some cases almost immediately as the new signings alter our thinking – but we’ve decided to present our first set of data.

In case you missed our previous article, this season’s Projections are being created using the statistical model behind the Rate My Team website. This site was run by Chris Atkinson for the past two seasons, during which he achieved some superb results with the model. Chris is a statistician who specifically built his model to simulate and predict the returns of players in Fantasy Football and, particularly, the FPL. Having brought Chris on board to help us with our Projections, we’re pretty delighted with the end result and the power and flexibility of the model behind them.

The Projections are, of course, part of our Members offering. For more details on the benefits of Membership and how to join, click here.

Here’s a short FAQ with more details….

How do I use the Projections?
Crucially, these tables can be used as another opinion-former when comparing players. Every player is rated for goals, assists, clean sheets etc based on values created by the “Rate My Team” statistical model – the values returned for each player are the expected values in accordance with its calculations.

A good way of thinking about them is to consider them average values for each player. If the season was played out 500 times, the values you’ll find in these projection tables are the average that the model would expect the player to score.

One of the most useful aspects of the Projections is the value column. You can sort by this to find the best value (Points Per FPL Million) delivered by players in each position.

With tables for the season and the opening six Gameweeks, you can get a view on long-term and short-term returns and value.

What are these values based on?
The “Rate My Team” statistical model is a complex beast – it uses historical data stretching back a number of seasons and, of course, specific player and team data. When generating the player values the model looks at the specific fixture in each Gameweek, assessing the strength of both teams before calculating the likely team goals scored and how these goals will translate to specific player stats. The probability of a player taking part in the match is also a key ingredient. Factors such as rotation, injuries, suspensions and absence due to the African Cup of Nations are also simulated by the model.

Why do the stats show decimal places?
The values returned by the model are not exact values – they are not figures that state what a player will score for a particular stat but a value which indicates their expected return. As such, the model can be more accurate when producing data with decimal places.

Why has Van Persie got fewer goals etc?
There’s no denying Robin Van Persie enjoyed an incredible season last term. For starters, he avoided injury and was almost ever present – the first time he has achieved or even came close to this in his entire Premier League career. Secondly, Van Persie was, without doubt, the key attacking force in the Arsenal lineup – the summer acquisitions of Olivier Giroud and Lukas Podolski suggest this may not be the case any longer. Added to this, of course, there is uncertainty surrounding the Dutchman’s future at the club.

Why are there fewer goals across the board?
The model used historical data to create an average goals per game value for the season. Although we’ve seen a trend that has seen the goal count soar in recent campaigns, the model has been more cautious and is currently expecting less goals for teams, with fewer big scorelines and teams that are likely to leak large amounts of goals. In a nutshell, the model doesn’t think that there will be a Blackpool or Wolves around as whipping boys next season.

When will these Projections be updated?
We’ll most likely update these every day up until the season kick-off. As we get more data on likely first choice lineups and as the transfer market moves to cast doubt over starters, we will adapt and tweak the model accordingly. It’s highly likely that, over the space of a few days, you’ll notice significant movement within the data for certain players.

There are still lots of issues to be resolved that will have a marked affect on the Projections – notably the striker situations at Arsenal and Spurs.

We’ll keep you posted on any major changes and movements in the Projections as and when they are made. Full Projection analysis articles for members will be following next week.

Mark Mark created the beast. He's now looking to tame it.

  1. Revsfc2013
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Gonna do something totally original here.

    RMT
    Al-Habsi/Federici
    Gorkss/Tomkins/Williams/Skrtel/Cole
    Yaya/Bale/Noble/Hazard/Taarabt
    Graham/Rooney/Jelavic

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      'Pool play City, Arse, and United in their first 5 GWs ... sure about Skrtel?

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      1. Revsfc2013
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        He's a long term bet, but granted that's a fair point.

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Maybe Clichy until the fixtures clear out?

          I'm not really lovin' Jelly at that price point, either.

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          1. Revsfc2013
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            Even though he has good fixtures after GW1? But clichy is a good idea thanks.

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            1. King Eric, in America
              • 15 Years
              13 years, 6 months ago

              Tough to tell ... I'm a little wary of Everton early and that they really don't seem very offensive (but in fairness that's a pretty blind opinion there).

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              1. Revsfc2013
                • 13 Years
                13 years, 6 months ago

                I don't mock patterns, Everton have a way about keeping with tradition when it comes to that sort of thing. Will have to think about it.

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      2. Revsfc2013
        • 13 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        But no other glaring errors or better alternatives?

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          I have Hazard in my squad right now ... ut I'm really giving it a re-think. Seems to me everyone is cramming a square peg into a round hole with this Chels DGW. Criminy, I even have Torres in my team 😯

          Personally, I think going without Aguero/Tevez requires Silva. But that may be a personal thing and I realize the 2.0m difference.

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          1. Revsfc2013
            • 13 Years
            13 years, 6 months ago

            I would never be so desperate for DGW points to grab torres, but I was def intrigued by hazard, but I am having second thoughts. That's a good point about the silva to aguero/tevez trade-off.

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    2. Revsfc2013
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I got it, not a fan of Taarabt but this is my redraft.

      Alhabsi/Federici
      Gorkss/Williams/Clichy/Cole A/Tomkins
      Yaya/Bale/Noble/Dempsey/Tarrablt
      Graham/Rooney/Jelavic.

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      1. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        You'd take Dempsey if he moves to 'Pool?

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  2. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone notice the 1st and 5th ring weren’t interlinking to the 2nd and 4th?

    Middle 3 were but the 1st and 5th weren’t…..

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    1. tangtastic
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I didn't notice. Still a little freaked out by the kung-fu dancing 19th century industrial workers.

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    2. Crouch Potato!
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      No idea, I've been watching the opening ceremony!

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  3. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    The Queen isn't looking too happy, missing TOWIE for this...

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  4. WhoIsRonaldo
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Anyone use the pre-season projections to see what they would get GW1 if they turned out to be accurate?

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    1. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Federici- 6.6 rounded up to 7

      Terry- 8.5 rounded up to 9

      Clichy- 4

      Demel 2.2 rounded down to 2

      Hazard- 8.5 rounded up to 9 (C) = 18

      Bale- 4.4 rounded down to 4

      Noble- 3.5 rounded up to 4

      Taarabt- 3.9 rounded up to 4

      Rooney- 5

      Aguero- 7.1 rounded down to 7

      Graham- 3.9 rounded up to 4

      Total = 68

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      1. Fray Bentos
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Well you can replace Terry with a big fat 0

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      2. WhoIsRonaldo
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I add mine up decimal's and all and came to 66

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  5. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Yeah good one... Exorcist!

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  6. Grounderz
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I hope the Queen didn't just jump off the plane to parachute...

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  7. Screaming Midget
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I remember having a debate with someone. I said Tubular Bells was played in the Exorcist and he just wouldn't have it.

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  8. Crouch Potato!
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Need help! I'm linked into somebody else's team, what do I do?

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Go into your profile and change the website to your history page.

      Or, hunt down the person you're currently linked to, kill them, and assume their identity.

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      1. Crouch Potato!
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Cheers! 😉

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  9. Champ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Ok. Now im confused. Are we athletes or in hospital?

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  10. Royal5
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Is Sessegnon worth 8.0 if he's oop?

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  11. nilsrh
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    What do you think is the best cheap keeper combination for the first 5-10 rounds? Looking to go for one keeper at 4.5 and one at 5.0 or 5.5

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    1. thattreblefeeling
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      vorm+cerney 🙂

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      1. nilsrh
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Thank you for the feedback.

        My two cents regarding Swansea this season is that Laudrup might be bringing in too many players that haven't got the necessary experience in English football. I think they might struggle as a result of that, particularly if Williams leave and he gets replaced with a centre back from La Liga (if we are to believe the rumors).

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    2. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      foster/bego or friedel/fed

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  12. preseasonblues
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    After a lot of tinkering have stumbled upon this. What do people think?

    Federici (DDG)
    Cole, Fabio, Lescott, Tomkins, (Wilson)
    Hazard, Yaya, Noble, (McClean, Maloney)
    Torres (c), Aguero, Graham

    Have 1.5 in the bank so can swap Yaya to Bale after GW1, and will switch out Hazard after GW2.

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    1. nilsrh
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I like it a lot , but from experience I know that planning transfers ahead like you have done more often than not does not go as planned.

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      1. preseasonblues
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Yeah of course, I've learnt that the hard way also, but need Spurs in there I think for their fixtures, and will need to get rid of one of the three Chels. Obviously if injuries etc things will change.

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        1. nilsrh
          • 16 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          Even as impressive Yaya were today I would go with Bale from the start.

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  13. wagner is king
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    QUICK ONE

    A--- Rooney and Yaya

    B--- Ageuro and Kagawa

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  14. preseasonblues
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    B

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    1. preseasonblues
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Reply fail.

      @ One Time Benzema

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    2. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      its a good letter but i much prefer A

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      1. preseasonblues
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        My name begins with a B, so I suppose I'm a little biased.

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        1. Optimus.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          nah fair enough i see where your coming from 😉

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  15. Optimus.
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    YEAH slow motion music..im expecting baywatch babes now 😉

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  16. Keane There Dunne That
    • 13 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Mr bean FTW

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    1. Haz to be Eden- Top scoring…
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      best part so far

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  17. Bigo1
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Where is the love for Tot full backs?
    - two of the top 5 defenders last year
    - reasonably priced at 6.5
    - very easy fixtures
    - should be attacking a lot
    - Full backs under AVB tend to assist plenty and get many CS (except for Che but Cole/Iva were probaly the worst pair to play such a high tempo game)

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    1. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      "reasonably priced at 6.5" 😀

      IMO, reasonable for a defender is 5.0/5.5 -- but I get your point. Yeah, AVB has people a little leery, I believe.

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  18. F5jason
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Quick question... why is everyone getting Federici, i mean i know he is cheap, and has a double gameweek, but as they are playing chelsea, but if they take two batterings its going to be very painful. is he good in his own right and are reading good defensively?

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    1. Limbo
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Agreed. Fook that.

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    2. King Eric, in America
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I think his 4.5 price tag is largely responsible. Paired with a DDG, he won't likely play much - unless subbed in.

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    3. Royal5
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Save points?

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    4. preseasonblues
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Decent keeper and Reading were an organised unit last term. I have him as he pairs particularly well with DDG.

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      1. F5jason
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        ok, that makes sense, i just though people were simply going mad for him due to DGW... re DDG is that a risk in itself? surely a guaranteed nailed on keeper like Cech/Hart would be better and hold a big team GK?

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        1. King Eric, in America
          • 15 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          6.0 for a United defender. And, Olympics aside, he's #1 for Utd.

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  19. Fray Bentos
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Aguero and Graham

    Or

    Tevez and bent

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    1. Doctor X
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      The former. Consistency ensured.

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      1. Fray Bentos
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        That's what i'm on at the mo, but I i'm really tempted by the slighty riskier latter!

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  20. Doctor X
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I just saw into the future for a split second. I have Steven Taylor in my team for GW 3 😉

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  21. Old Glory
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    RMT

    Federici (Green)

    A.Cole Clark Fabio (Cuellar Alcaraz)

    Hazard Kagawa Yaya Noble (Maloney)

    Tevez Aguero Torres

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    1. nilsrh
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      I would spend at least 0.5 more on the goalkeepers and try to get in one more "big name" defender.

      You are also taking a rather big risk by picking both Hazard and Kagawa, as they are both new to the premier league.

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  22. tangtastic
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Is this opening ceremony weirding anyone else out?

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    1. Limbo
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Take more drugs. Pls.

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      1. tangtastic
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I think if I had I'd be in a pretty bad spot at the moment.

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    2. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      im glad ive had a few drinks

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    3. Fray Bentos
      • 16 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      At least its not predictable!

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      1. Limbo
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        I'm open mouthed.

        Please tell me Monty Python are up next.

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  23. Bedknobs and Boomsticks
    • 16 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    This has gone downhill.....

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  24. Optimus.
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    i can just see the olympic finale now

    kevin and sally webster to get it together the way its looking

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    1. Cuffs
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Oh how correct you are.

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    2. Parm
      • Fantasy Football Scout Member
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Kevin Barlow & Peggy Mitchell.

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  25. Parm
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Is that Gervinho?

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  26. F5jason
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    RMT

    Cech Jaask

    Hangeland Shawcross Fabio Cueller Demel

    Silva Kagawa Maloney Noble Taarabt

    Rooney Tevez Torres

    0.5 Spare

    2 DGW players so not much to transfer out if needed and both guaranteed starts.

    Should I replace Taarabt for Michu and have 0.0 Spare?

    Also, I don't want to spend big in defence, but if anyone would like to recommend replacement players for the same price feel free!

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  27. Champ
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    I keep getting into a song and then it stops. No.

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    1. Optimus.
      • 14 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      you need to listen to this

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8arvEzHsA8

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      1. preseasonblues
        • 16 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        +infinity

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      2. King Eric, in America
        • 15 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        Don't.

        Stop ... posting links to songs like that. *shudders*

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      3. JK - Cønt ⭐
        • Fantasy Football Scout Member
        • 14 Years
        13 years, 6 months ago

        T and did I mention UNE

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        1. Optimus.
          • 14 Years
          13 years, 6 months ago

          😉

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  28. Optimus.
    • 14 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    wow big tunes now..i like

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  29. Holy See
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    Sid Vicious gets in on the Olympics. Prodigy. New Order. Not all bad then.

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  30. J.Mata
    • Fantasy Football Scout Member
    • 15 Years
    13 years, 6 months ago

    A) Hazard and Tevez

    or

    B) Ramires and Aguero

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    1. kroky
      • 15 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      ive gone with hazard and tevez. i dont get why tevez is not in every team. he is citys best player when on form, fantasy gold and only 9million. i also think he is a banker to start every week

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    2. Round and Round
      • 13 Years
      13 years, 6 months ago

      Same thing Ive been pondering over all week. Went for Hazard+Tevez because there are more good options at the respective prices in midfield and attack with those two rather than with Ramires + Aguero.

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